2002-2006 South China - Dongguan Reports

[Superforce99]

Minkfan/Bigtop,

Are you sure you guys are talking about the same place? Can either of you
give directions to this hotel?

I was in CP on Friday and didn't get to the Yalan area till about 11pm and
there were about 50-60 girls left. Selection was OK, but no gal really made
me want to fuck her immediately, but still plenty of fuckable ones.

Also, checked out the catacombs for the first time in a while, and I have to
say I was pleasantly surprised...the girls were not as bad as the last time I
was there, about 1-1.5 years ago. They were young-ish, relatively clean looking,
and still charged 30 RMB. Definately lower quantity than before, about 5-6 gals,
compared with the dozen or so I remember from before. This was near 12 noon
so it may have been early. Their rooms were still disgusting as hell though.


J

[Member #4515]

Hi all,

A cabby in CP told me of a place called Li4 Fa3. He said that many girls from Yalan are moving to that area. I remember members cautioning against listening to cabbies, so I went to tried and true Yalan area.

Has anyone tried that area?

thanks,

minkfan

HI! Minkfan1. I think the place u mentioned is LI-Hwa hotel. I have been there several times. This pace has around hundred girls from 9pm. The going rate is 130-350. I personally will visit cp on 14th this month, Will you still there?

[Minkfan1]

Hi all,

A cabby in CP told me of a place called Li4 Fa3. He said that many girls from Yalan are moving to that area. I remember members cautioning against listening to cabbies, so I went to tried and true Yalan area.

Has anyone tried that area?

thanks,

minkfan

[Bonking]

I will be in DG on the 25th or 26th of January. This will be my first time in China. I usually go Vietnam. Will anyone be there to show me the area or point me in the right directions. I am easy. I just want to fuck as many as I can before I go back to work in the US.

I might be in DG around that time. Leave me your contacts so we can discuss.

Cheers

[Santa]

Hi Yankee. I think you did everything right and there was nothing more you could have done. Sometimes you get a bad one and sometimes you hit a home run.

While a group of us were having dinner in Shanghai, OAH said, "this new guy, Yankee, comes to China for the first time, reads the fucking forum, figures things out, goes to the right places and posts good reports".

[Phantomtiger2]

This is more of a vent than a report...

. At this point she accepted the
partial payment (which I offered again, just to appease her somewhat
and thereby hopefully avoid engendering problems) but IMHO she
did not deserve anything.

I'd really like to know how to avoid such unpleasant situations. Although
the easiest course to take (once you are in such a situation) is to pay in
full and get her gone... I feel this only encourages her to repeat the
little game with her next customer. Only by refusing payment is there
some hope of getting her to provide decent service to future customers...
but its certainly no guarantee.
Any thoughts on how to avoid such situations?
How frequently have you guys encountered such situations?

Always pay only the amount of money they deserve and never more (but if already paid in full in advance then only recourse is to complain to the Mama--but some are scams where the Mama is in on this --but most are not so complaining will help the person who comes after).

Since she did give some sex service (although bad) shes entitle to a little money so partial payment is ok, but never pay the full payment as service was never finished.

Yes, I've encounter this situation almost everywhere in Asia that I've been to find action. I just return from Cambodia and had almost this exact situation.--so shit happens everywhere and will depend alot on your luck or lack of it.

Note: you didnt do anything wrong so cant be avoided as its your 1st time at that location and didnt know what to expect. Only thing is dont go back there and perhaps post a warning of the place (location-address etc) on this board so others can be aware also.

PT

[Yankee 617]

The girls are more likely to try to short-changed you if you don't speak Mandarin. Because you wouldn't be able to complain to anybody. I noticed that a lot when I first came to China and couldn't speak any Mandarin, a lot less now.

Perhaps the only answer is to learn Mandarin.

[Wadman]

... I negotiated 60 minutes for this price and paid 100 RMB up front.

En route to the hotel room, Li Tse was reasonably friendly and kidded around a bit... not a bad start. Inside the room, she let me start to undress her but finished the job herself. We were supposed to be headed to a shower but I decided to caress her on the spot as a little prelude. In the course of this bit of foreplay, she jumped up into my arms (she is small enough for me to carry) and I carried her to the bed. Her vaginal talents were so good that I came in no time (pleasant but very unusual for me) so we headed to the shower... this was also fun as we kidded around, splashed water on each other, and soaped each other up.

We were only 20 minutes into the session and I was ready for Round 2. Unfortunately, Li Tse tried to pry an additional 200 RMB from me for a second round... but I would have no part of this and reminded her that we had another 40 minutes to go. I was braced for another unpleasant argument when I suggested that we just hug/cuddle for awhile and I was pleased that she accepted. After a bit of this, Li Tse and I just naturally moved into a second round... without any further discussion of money... and this was quite nice. As the hour was almost up, we took another playful shower together and then dressed. I then happily gave her the 100 RMB that I owed her plus a 20 RMB tip. I also made arrangements for her to return in the morning... she will be my going-away gift to myself as I have to check out of this hotel and head back to my work world in the USA tomorrow.

So, except for the tense moment when she tried to pry a bit more money from me, I would say the service she offered was quite good.

It's not unusual at all that the girls will try to get extra money from you. It all depends on how persistent they are. If they just ask, but don't insist and turn nasty, I would say no harm done.

In this case I would say Li Tse has bit of a case. Most BBSs allow 1 shot for the price. In your case, you negotiated 60 minutes, so it's a case of which rule trumps which.

[Wadman]

5) I attempt some playful fooling around. Kissing on the lips is
invariably off the menu but things start to turn bad here. Often caressing or breast kissing is refused. Even previously negotiated services such as BJ or DATY may be refused.

It's called a sales pitch. Some girls and mommies will promise you anything and everything to make the sale.

6) She is eager to get a condom on me and begin pumping.
Six strokes later, she is complaining that I haven't cum yet. She may even grimace every time I push inside her.

Flip her over, and do her doggy.

[QUOTE=Yankee 617]That's a rough synopsis of what I just experienced here in CP but its not much different from what I experienced in SZ a couple weeks ago./QUOTE]The BBSs in Shenzhen, especially Sha Tsui are always hit and miss, even for more experienced mongers. But then the BBSs are really cheap, so we get what we pay for.

Any thoughts on how to avoid such situations?

How frequently have you guys encountered such situations?

The girls are more likely to try to short-changed you if you don't speak Mandarin. Because you wouldn't be able to complain to anybody. I noticed that a lot when I first came to China and couldn't speak any Mandarin, a lot less now.

My advice, find a good place, or a good mommy, and keep going back.

[Moody]

Any thoughts on how to avoid such situations?
How frequently have you guys encountered such situations?

I've never had what you've described in CP. Yes I've gotten a few starfish, but nothing like you describe. Maybe I'm lucky.

[Moody]

I read very good things about the Sheraton KTV girls. Nevertheless, does the Sheraton has a "7th floor" as the Cinese has or as the Crown Prince Hotel Sauna building?

How can I skip the hassle of having to go to the ktv get a room, spend in drinks, etc. Since I usually go by myself only and get the top girls? Even renting a small room do not assure to be able to get the best girls!

Rgds

Go to the basement. You have to get on the right elevator though. Some of the elevators go to the basement, some don't. Once there, go left. If you go right, that's the legit sauna.

[Yankee 617]

I was once told that if you fall off a horse, you should get back in the saddle right away...

So I went outside the hotel and accepted the invitation of a mama to check out her stable of beauties... and decided I wouldn't try to cut her asking price of 200 RMB. Her shop didn't have a big selection, but the first one the mama recommended was cute and - importantly - she said the magic words: "good service". The girl, Li Tse, seemed bouncy and cute enough, as well as quickly agreeable to both BJ and DATY... I negotiated 60 minutes for this price and paid 100 RMB up front.

En route to the hotel room, Li Tse was reasonably friendly and kidded around a bit... not a bad start. Inside the room, she let me start to undress her but finished the job herself. We were supposed to be headed to a shower but I decided to caress her on the spot as a little prelude. In the course of this bit of foreplay, she jumped up into my arms (she is small enough for me to carry) and I carried her to the bed. Her vaginal talents were so good that I came in no time (pleasant but very unusual for me) so we headed to the shower... this was also fun as we kidded around, splashed water on each other, and soaped each other up.

We were only 20 minutes into the session and I was ready for Round 2. Unfortunately, Li Tse tried to pry an additional 200 RMB from me for a second round... but I would have no part of this and reminded her that we had another 40 minutes to go. I was braced for another unpleasant argument when I suggested that we just hug/cuddle for awhile and I was pleased that she accepted. After a bit of this, Li Tse and I just naturally moved into a second round... without any further discussion of money... and this was quite nice. As the hour was almost up, we took another playful shower together and then dressed. I then happily gave her the 100 RMB that I owed her plus a 20 RMB tip. I also made arrangements for her to return in the morning... she will be my going-away gift to myself as I have to check out of this hotel and head back to my work world in the USA tomorrow.

So, except for the tense moment when she tried to pry a bit more money from me, I would say the service she offered was quite good.

[Yankee 617]

This is more of a vent than a report...

I just wanted to vent my frustration with poor service, which I have found
on more than one occasion here in China. There seems to be little one can
do in advance to avoid poor service situations. Here is the typical scenario
that I have encountered...

1) I find a friendly girl who seems eager to be with me.
2) I negotiate all prices and services in advance.
3) We head back to my hotel room.
4) Once inside the room, she swiftly gets undressed.
5) I attempt some playful fooling around. Kissing on the lips is
invariably off the menu but things start to turn bad here. Often
caressing or breast kissing is refused. Even previously negotiated
services such as BJ or DATY may be refused.
6) She is eager to get a condom on me and begin pumping.
Six strokes later, she is complaining that I haven't cum yet.
She may even grimace every time I push inside her.
7) After a little more pumping, she wants to get up/dressed
and get paid/gone. She may even refuse a HJ or any further
attempt to get me off. This might be as little as 10 minutes
after she initially undressed. An argument invariably ensues
and by this time I don't even want her anymore.

That's a rough synopsis of what I just experienced here in CP but its
not much different from what I experienced in SZ a couple weeks ago.
In this particular case, I paid nothing up front. (In SZ, I paid 50 RMB
up front.) When she said she wanted to go, I offered partial payment
to get rid of her, but she just refused and argued. As she had no cell
phone, and I refused to let her use mine, she eventually said we
should go together back to the shop where I got her. I walked her
outside and then told her goodbye. At this point she accepted the
partial payment (which I offered again, just to appease her somewhat
and thereby hopefully avoid engendering problems) but IMHO she
did not deserve anything.

I'd really like to know how to avoid such unpleasant situations. Although
the easiest course to take (once you are in such a situation) is to pay in
full and get her gone... I feel this only encourages her to repeat the
little game with her next customer. Only by refusing payment is there
some hope of getting her to provide decent service to future customers...
but its certainly no guarantee. She might just negotiate harder or push
for a situation in which she holds more power: either getting an up-front
payment, or doing the deed at her place, or both. But refusing full payment
always brings an unpleasant argument...

Any thoughts on how to avoid such situations?
How frequently have you guys encountered such situations?

[Minkfan1]

Tristan,

Sheraton DG is the biggest *****house in South China.

Actually, floor 1 to 3 belongs to Sheraton and the rest of the building belongs
to some retired government official.

Floor 6, 7 + 8 is for fun. Just go up there and ask the waiter for a room.


Mac

Hi Mac,

Can you elaborate more on what happens on floors 6, 7, or 8? I was at DG Sheraton for two days last week and it was a big disappointment.

thanks,

minkfan

[Travel Dog]

How can I skip the hassle of having to go to the ktv get a room, spend in drinks, etc. Since I usually go by myself only and get the top girls? Even renting a small room do not assure to be able to get the best girls!

Rgds

Tristan
Renting a KTV room alone is not recomended. But you can still get the best girls because most large KTVs have a stage show in a big room. You can usually go there, buy a drink, watch the show and check out the girls who will be hanging around. Also, the mommies will come up to you and ask if you would like a girl to sit with you. Tell them what kind of girl you want and they will bring a few for you to look at. If you like one just take her and go. No room charges, no bad singing and no drunken dice game. Of course you still pay the high KTV price for the girl.


TD