2002-2006 Phnom Penh

[Poobah]

I'd also like to comment on another statement Guy#2 said.

Evidently he considers telling impoverished Cambodian women that he will take them to America for sex a perfectly reasonable way to get them into bed. Even more laughable is that he labels this 'seduction'. His parting words are 'LIE LIE LIE'. Great approach dude.

It's this type of attitude and behavior that gets some of us mongers (rightly) labeled as social misfits. Where's the sense of honor? If you are going to bed a non-pro, fine. But let's not forget you are dealing with another human being. Karma is going to bite you on the ass with this type of approach.

I will confess to being a hard-core monger and even now date the non-pro overseas. However, I have never bullshitted them like this and frankly find this type of behavior reprehensible.

I suggest to Guy#2 he take some time to learn what seduction really is, or at least call it what it is -- a scam. The Good Thai or Indonesian girls I've gotten into bed have usually been because I was interested in a longer term relationship with them. I'm not perfect, but do believe in treating them with a modicum of respect. I don't make them promises I'm not willing to keep. I promised my Indo girlfriend I would try to get her to America, and was able to accomplish that this year. I paid for her ticket, and took care of her while she was up here. One of the most unforgettable trips I've ever had was in my backyard.

But it may be that he and Cambo"pro"'s experiences solely reside in their overactive imaginations. One can only hope.

[Black Sabbath]

Originally posted by Alexios Hellas
Could you please tell me more about the girls at Sharky's please? ..the girl in Tuol Kork looked "a bit too worn out", what exactly did you mean? Alex [/i]

Hi Alexios,

Tuol Kork is an old, almost forgotten and esp. dangerous place where drunk Cambodian men shoot each other (every week 2 or 3 casualties). Due to several raids foreigners are not welcome anymore. When they spot a foreigner they close immediately all doors. The girls there really look worn out.This means they have a lot of miles on it, up to 40 years old. This are real prostitutes and in the meantime just poor Cambodians fuck them.
Sharky's is a bit better. Girls are younger (around 22 to 30), also very "experienced". Beauty ??? That's the question. Everybody has a different taste. I wouldn't take them. They have about 40 -50 girls inside. At the moment not too many tourists ( on 40 girls about 4 - 5 men).

If you look for beauty you have to go to different places.

[Poobah]

Guy #2, for someone who professes to be Asian you seem to have an incredible ignorance about Asia itself -- no offense intended.

As someone who's had two regular Thai girlfriends and has visited and worked there, I can assure you that 'luuk krueng' are rare indeed. What you may be referring to is the Chinese-Thai who have whiter skin. The rest of your suppositions regarding race probably belong in the intellectual dustbin. I hope you don't take offense by my observations.

Hey, I see you married a Cambodian woman! Was (or is) she a *****? I've heard that most Cambo women are *****s so I'm assuming yours is. Post a picture, maybe I've had her? Of course, if she has a lil Poobah you might confuse our love child with a Thai person. Ha ha, just kidding! NO offense intended!

[Bear Foxtrot]

Originally posted by Mistapenus
Visited P.Pen a few months ago. Had a great time, although it was
a bit boring, but still better than at home. Martini's real fun. You sit
at the bar or watch the film on the wide screen. Girls turn up one by one "Hello, my name is...... I sleep with you, OK?" After two minutes another one comes and so on. This is what we need at home! $10 for short time seems the standard but at 1AM some said $5 and they were all good looking. Mostly Viet, ages 20-25, nice friendly girls. They smile a lot.

Le Circee is also good. ST$10 on site and $5 for the room. All Khmer girls but very hot. They don't speak much English but kiss you all over while you sit at your drink.

One night a moto driver suggested a small brothel with 4 girls, all Khmer. $10 1 hour. The rooms are crap but the girls gorgeous. CIM is OK, apparently.

After a week going to Martini's became a bit too boring and there's not much else to do at night if you don't play pool.

The "Heart of Darkness" is real crap, full of backpackers, mama&papa etc.

Sharky's bar doesn't have much music and no dancing. Only talking and pool. Many Viet girls were "overaged", like 30-35 and really worn.

There also a lot of massage places on the streets where the ladies sit outside on the street. Maybe they don't speak much English though.

Had a look at "Tuol Kork" on a moto. Viet girl offered ST for $5 but she wasn't that good looking, a bit too worn out. One moto driver said that "Svay Pak" was dangerous, so didn't go there. Maybe should have.

In sort: the town is very exotic and interesting for a few days but a week is maximum to see everything. Hotels around $10 aircon.

Hey,

Could you please tell me more about the girls and everything at Sharky's please? And also, when you say the girl in Tuol Kork looked "a bit too worn out", what exactly did you mean? Just checking before I make any plans..

Alex

[Guy #2]

My cousin has a passport ID. My mother in law has a state ID. My wife's sister and brothers have school IDs. That's because the girls you are dealing with are probably to poor to get an ID. These girls are like at the bottom of society. It's not that most Cambodians do not have IDs. It's that most Cambodian prostitutes visited by the board members do not have IDs. I cannot verify this fact. All I suggested was take her to the government office and apply for an ID. Little crazy, I know. Just an idea, nonetheless, and better than nothing. Certainly better than jail time for a trumped up charge.

[Guy #2]

when i went to cambodia, i was shocked to see thai models on the magazines, on tv. these women look hot. i think it is because they are half white and half asian. maybe that's why you like them. fuck, i like them! vietnamese girls have always been hot. i am not going to cambodia for hot chicks. i want to find someone on the street to reduce my chance of getting aids. i may stop by thailand and just dry fuck someone. but i am afraid of the hot chicks because i know i am not the first to fuck this girl. same thing in the states. i like the black and hispanic slutty chicks in the city. they dress so hot with their asses hanging out. but i am afraid to get aids or stds. so i look for an 18--19 year old college white girl who is just stupid or lonely. (i know: statistics show hispanics in the us have lower aids cases. maybe it's because they are catholic girls. but the peurto ricans really skew the statistics because they fuck like crazy. mexican girls are cleaner.)

when i go to thailand, that is not my country so i don't know where to find the rare virgins or girls who are not regular prostitutes. when i am in the us and cambodia, i know how to find a virgin and seduce her. it's not illegal and it's safer. i know what they want: money, attention, love etc.

but i am still going to thailand like you said. they are hot! i mean fucking hot! i was in thailand one day, and my dick was hard 24 hours. but i don't think i would do anything more then dry fuck them and cum in their mouth. rub your dick between their legs and get off. safe sex.

plus being cambodian, i find cambodian women attractive. i can see, though, how a white guy might be a little turned off. that's why thailand and vietnam is a good destination. many thais are halfwhite. it's like the blacks in the us. they've already intermarried (or been raped 100 years ago) over the years. if you see someone from africa during the olmpics, they are usually very short and small in stature. no offense intended.

in a way--no offense intended--i guess what goes around, comes around, because when you fuck a girl in thailand, you are really fucking someone who is 50% american and who has been ostracized by their own culture. so they get fucked twice: first by the thais who hate them and second by the race of their white fathers. funny, it's almost like the country was created to have sex. like the phillipines. they produce a lot of prostitutes and nurses. haha. just half-kidding. i hope you are not too offended by my comments.

i have never been to vietnam. aren't you scared to travel there since it's a communist country? i don't go because i can't understand vietnamese. they might be serving me dog or something in meal--haha. the vietnamese have an attitude. the laotian and cambodians are more naive and dumb. that's why we always get fucked--and i mean that seriously.

[Guy #2]

I needed a birth certificate for my wife. She did not have one. So we paid the official to come to the house and got one for $50. That's how things work there. We didn't do anything illegal. That's how you get things done there. What I am saying is, if you are really concerned about proof of age, go get an id made. I am NOT advocating making a false id. That's your business. I am saying they have offices that make id like anwhere else and money opens the door. Then take the id and go to copy shop and copy the id. I am NOT advocating that you make false birth certificates.

I know you guys are not interested in that because you are looking for a quickie.

I wanted to offer some type of a solution for guys who are (1) really concerned about false arrests staged by the NGO and (2) guys who have a longtime girlfriends.

Another example: let's say you find a girl you really like and want to bring her back--GOD FORBID. You need documents, which do not exist. Like when you lose a Social Security card. What do you do? You go have one made at the government office. But Cambodia is so corrupt that you can not even get a legitimate ID without paying a fee. I am NOT advocating bribery. I am just saying go get the ID made under the usual custom and practice of the country and then have it photocopy.

Yes, I agree, this does NOT work for the girl you bring back for one night or at her place or where you don't have the time and money for such bullshit. Like the dictaphone. It's a lot of fucking work to do that and you ruin the whole moment. But if you want to be safe. I have only used the dictaphone when I picked up college students in the states. I have never met any bad Cambodian girls or Sreh Koats. At least, not yet.

It was only a suggestion. I am not saying it is a smart suggestion or a cheap suggestion. Just better than getting falsely accused.

[Philo]

Thanks Dinghy and CP

On the km11 board they say most girls don't have ID.

How can a post here (I think it was Guy#2) advocate photocopying of ID?

[Mistapenus]

Visited P.Pen a few months ago. Had a great time, although it was
a bit boring, but still better than at home. Martini's real fun. You sit
at the bar or watch the film on the wide screen. Girls turn up one by one "Hello, my name is...... I sleep with you, OK?" After two minutes another one comes and so on. This is what we need at home! $10 for short time seems the standard but at 1AM some said $5 and they were all good looking. Mostly Viet, ages 20-25, nice friendly girls. They smile a lot.

Le Circee is also good. ST$10 on site and $5 for the room. All Khmer girls but very hot. They don't speak much English but kiss you all over while you sit at your drink.

One night a moto driver suggested a small brothel with 4 girls, all Khmer. $10 1 hour. The rooms are crap but the girls gorgeous. CIM is OK, apparently.

After a week going to Martini's became a bit too boring and there's not much else to do at night if you don't play pool.

The "Heart of Darkness" is real crap, full of backpackers, mama&papa etc.

Sharky's bar doesn't have much music and no dancing. Only talking and pool. Many Viet girls were "overaged", like 30-35 and really worn.

There also a lot of massage places on the streets where the ladies sit outside on the street. Maybe they don't speak much English though.

Had a look at "Tuol Kork" on a moto. Viet girl offered ST for $5 but she wasn't that good looking, a bit too worn out. One moto driver said that "Svay Pak" was dangerous, so didn't go there. Maybe should have.

In sort: the town is very exotic and interesting for a few days but a week is maximum to see everything. Hotels around $10 aircon.

[Black Sabbath]

Originally posted by Cambodia Pro
The stories here are highly paranoid, one or two arrests in a country of 12 million people. If you are discrete, no one will bother you.

Sure Cambo, and taking 10 girls into a hotel room is discrete. Haha. Just stop writing bullshit. The best would be if you would close your erotic book (the book where your stories are coming from).

[Guy #2]

Yeah, I didn't want to offend Cambodian Pro either because your tales--fiction or fact--at least makes this board more enjoyable and are much more interesting than my analysis. But yeah I don't believe the stories either. I also graduated from a top college and have a graduate degree but I don't talk about it and it doesn't get me laid any more than the ordinary Joe.

I have some tales to tell but you guys won't find it interesting. I was looking for a new wife in Cambodia so my family was sending me hundreds of these photos of girls. No sex stories. I then got impatient so I advertised and ran an ad. Now I am getting phone calls in the middle of the night and constant emails from university students, women, fathers who want me to marry their daughters. The phone call from Cambodia to the US on a wirless is cheaper than within Cambodia. That's why these women have no problems calling. Again no lurid sex stories. More of a romance thing.

When I do go to Cambodia, I certainly intend to get laid. I thank you for your advice on the orasure, the street names, etc and will apply it. I figure if I stay there for 7-10 days and try 3 quickies a day and a different long time girlfriend each night, I will have enough stories to tell you. But that won't be ready until Auguts or September.

That comes to 28 girls or 40 girls. I am serious and I am not joking. That's why my first post was how do you guys do it, because I didn't believe Cambodian Pro (don't be offended).

I mean I don't want to go there and screw 40 women and get AIDS because your stories made it sound so safe.

I am not at all worried about the rumors about the crackdown. I just don't see that happening if you are discreet and consensual.

I am worried about the AIDS thing.

So I will end my post (until I came back) like I started. Are you guys being honest about fucking 40 girls. Because if you are not, now is the time to say, heh you sex monkey, don't do it because we are all just kidding.

But I do know that those places and the girls exist (I have relatives in Cambodia, remember).

[Dinghy]

Philo - ASSUMING you are flying in... (otherwise see some of my reports on getting from BKK (Pattaya, whatever) to PNH via overland/overwater.)

While you may need a moto driver to show you how/where to go,after the first trip out there, they would only be a cost burden (prices include a commission when they are around). Also, IF you have somewhere you want to go for a room, the moto driver would be trying to sell you on a place that would pay HIM a commission (what happens in Sihanoukville and Koh Kong). "Take out" was available in Koh Kong and Sihanoukville, so it probably is in PNH as well. (plan on 20-25 or so)

[Cambodia Pro]

Originally posted by philo
Hi!

A few questions:

Can I just jump on the plane BKK-PP with 2 pictures and some cash and get a Visa on the airport in PP?

What about election time related problems for farang?

Will - when in any doubt - use dictaphone and copy ID. But what happens if you are in a ST-brothel: Can you risk a police raid finding you with a 16-17 yo look like 20? Should I ask for ID in MP/Brothels?

Thanks.

Greetings from Rio de Janeiro.


Just landed at airport a few minutes ago. I can't wait for my Anal fukathon with the butt godesses in Brazil. I will report in Brazil forum.

Here are some answers,
"Can I just jump on the plane BKK-PP with 2 pictures and some cash and get a Visa on the airport in PP?"
Yes. The visa you can get at arrival, you fill the form right there , and pay your $20 for the visa.

The stories here are highly paranoid, one or two arrests in a country of 12 million people. These were probably stupid people that had were flaunting it. If you are discrete, no one will bother you. At the hotel, walk first, and tell your girlie to meet you at your room door. Just be discrete.

Got to go. Just saw an incredible ass carioca wave me here in the internet cafe.

Sayonara.

[Guy #2]

I just got a call from an American who got married in Cambodia in July. He is there till the 20th of July. So sounds safe to me.
Just find a guide. Once you show your dollars, people will warmup. The guide will protect you.

Cambodian custom is not to ask. People are very friendly to you hoping you will say, here's a dollar. Here's a tip. Make friends with one guide who speaks English and Cambodian. Ask him where it's safe to go.

My cousin lives in Phnom Penh and earns money this way part time. He is a college student. I was going to give you his name but I am not going to. I am concerned about the bill that I think was passed making it illegal to aid or assist someone in traveling overseas for sex purposes. They targeted the Apple vacation tours.

Of course, as a diclaimer, when I mentioned my cousin, I meant as a guide for tourist like reasons, seeing the sights, the hill, etx. nonsexual things. To be safe, I am not even going to post his info.

But find someone like that. It should be easy. Everybody is looking for a job.

[Guy #2]

4 years ago, I heard you can get the visa at the border or at the airport. I don't know. I always Fedex my passport to the embassy in Washington DC.

Do you guys know the answer to his questions?

The dictaphone was something I used in the states. I have never met a Cambodian girl. I went there to get engage. That is why I am so excited. I hope this time my inlaws will leave me alone so I can get a piece of ass.

I like to suck up information and I do not remember any posts about a police raid. Ask if you can bring the girl back to your hotel. For 20-30 they should let you. They don't give a shit about her and she has no where to go when she is done.

I have read posts that you can take the girl back to your hotel.

Has anyone heard of raids? I have never heard of a raid?

I appreciate the posts about the arrests but again I need to see the facts.

Cambodians and Americans are always sending me questions and telling me stories about processing times for fiancee and marrage visas but the anecdotes they tell me are always wrong. They always have their facts wrong or the sources are not reliable. That's why I am skeptical about the accuracy of these stories.

I am not trying to argue with you but don't you think that if an American had been jailed for 300 years for sucking toes, especially a white guy, that Dateline or 20/20 would run a story on it by now? That's just too shocking to hold back.

If you're not sure, stay away from toes, stay away from people who look like young girls, find someone to bring back to your hotel. if you can't find a girl, approach someone on the street. asking a woman out is not against the law. People are starving over there.

Why do you have to go to an "official" *****house. Why not try the woman on the street who needs new shoes for her kids. Ask her if she wants to have some fun time while you are in town. Tell her you will bring her back to America if she is nice to you.

LIE, LIE AND LIE. SEDUCTION IS NOT A CRIME.

Prostitution is illegal but SEDUCTION is legal. Cambodia has the perfect conditions to seduce some poor girls who wants a greencard.

GO MAN GO!

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