2002-2006 Phnom Penh

[Guy #2]

okay, guys. here is something that i found at www.ageofconsent.com. no, i am not promoting this site nor, as my disclaimer, am i representing that the information is accurate.

i do not advocare any type of activities with minors and i think people who do that are sick. some of these cambodian women who are 18 and older are so malnourished that they look like they are 15 or 16. so for a guy to want an even younger girl, he must be a really sick fuck. i just want to be clear that i am totally against this kind of activity.

at the same time, i don't want some fucking liberal, christian, or ngo telling me what two consenting of adults of age (at least 18) can or cannot do.

that's the problem with the fucking liberals and ngo and feminist. they take an issue like this that so offends everyone and try to apply a remedy that goes beyond the original problem. they use this as an opportunity to prohibit all sexual activties, even between adults of consenting age. they are guided by their feminism and liberalism.

so i am definitely against any activities involving a minor.

but at the same time, if we didn't have guys like cambodian pro gangbanging 10 women (all of legal age i presume), the whole fucking world would be run by feminists.

so know the law, get the consent on tape: are you at leat 18 years of age? do you consent? do you have a passport id? do you have a school id? a birth certificate?

plus westerners are used to dating people their own age. find someone who definitely looks like she is 25 or 30. don't risk fucking around with these fucking liberals.

here is what i found:

phnom penh, dec 18, 2000 - a us tourist has been charged with the [CodeWord123] and indecent assault of a child prostitute in cambodia in a rare instance of the courts here showing a willingness to tackle such a case, officials said monday.

a phnom penh court charged james curtis parks, 57, from hawaii, with the [CodeWord123] of a 15-year-old girl in a hotel room, a charge he denied saying he was impotent and had been teaching meditation when police arrived.

"i am a good man. i came here to teach meditation, english and photography. i have been helping her," parks, a freelance photographer, told reporters who visited his jail cell monday where he can be held for up to six months pending trial. "how can i have sex with her? i have been unable to have an erection for seven years," he added.

however, police and court officials questioned why the pair were naked when the hotel room was raided on wednesday last week. "we charged him with [CodeWord123] and indecent assault late friday," said phnom penh's deputy municipal court prosecutor ngeth sarath. "i don't know if this is the first such case, but i don't remember any others, so it is quite rare," he said.

a cambodian woman who allegedly acted as a pimp was also charged with debauchery. if convicted, parks faces a maximum 10 years in jail, while the woman whose charge also relates to an offence of [CodeWord908] faces 10 to 20 years. the case follows the sentencing in november of british teacher john keeler, 55, to three years in a cambodian jail for making a video of four girls ranging from eight to 10 years old lifting their dresses and fondling themselves.

rights workers said they hoped that case marked a turning point in cambodia, where lax laws and an unwillingness to disrupt tourism have seen the country develop a reputation as a haven for foreign paedophiles.

there is no legal age of consent defined in cambodian law, but indecent or sexual assault is punishable by one to three years in
jail. that sentence is doubled if the person assaulted is under the age of 16, according to united nations legal experts here.
[CodeWord123], although rarely prosecuted, is punishable by five to 10 years with no age issues involved. rights groups and the un's protection and monitoring unit here are currently trying to have minors defined as under the age of 18 in line with international conventions on the rights of children. current legislation dates back to the early 1990s when cambodia was administered by a un transitional authority.

a leading child advocacy group said the court had initially been reluctant to charge parks as the girl confessed to being a prostitute and had been paid 30 dollars for sex. "the court did not want to charge the man because they said the girl was not a virgin and had not been forced into sex. but under pressure from us they have at least charged him with [CodeWord123] and indecent assault," said yim po, chairman of the cambodian centre for the protection of children's rights. he said the girl was now in the centre's care and would be taught some basic reading, writing and life skills and helped to find a job.

cambodian prime minister hun sen warned in a speech last week that the country's efforts to attract foreign visitors ran the risk
of swamping traditional culture and increasing the likelihood of sex tourism.

[Guy #2]

this is a letter to the editor that i found on the internet. as a disclaimer, i am not representing that the statutes cited by this reader is correct. i am trying to reach the facts in support of the posting relating to the arrest of the american citizen. the reader below makes reference to a statute about the consenting age. i personally would follow the age of consent in your state. if the age of consent in your state is 19 and in cambodia it is 18 (for purposes of argument--i do not know what the age is), i would follow your state so that you comply with american law. i used high numbers in my example to be safe.

there are also us laws prohibiting bribery of a foreign official and also laws prohibiting aiding or assisting someone to travel to a foreign country for purposes of having sex. the law relating prohibiting the assistance of helping someone to travel overseas to engage in such conduct was a bill that i saw on the internet. i do not know for a fact whether that bill has been passed. but i welcome any corrections to my statement.

please post the original article so can get the facts straight. in the menatime, i will search for the article, too.



the following is the article i found from a march 2003 issue (i did not write this letter. there's also something in the article about gay rights--i am not gay. i like chicks, and chicks like me. haha.):



prosecution challenged

dear editor,

why was the arrest of norman robinson (page 14) not used to illustrate the problem of police corruption (page 1) in the last edition of the phnom penh post? why are you using the phrase 'under 18' to imply children? in cambodia sex with a 16-year-old is not illegal. in cambodia voluntary prostitution by a 16-year-old is not illegal. cambodian culture and the cambodian national assembly define, in relation to sex and prostitution, a minor as under 15 years.

in the law on the suppression of the kidnapping and trafficking of human persons (commonly known as the debauchery law) article 3 prohibits kidnapping for forced prostitution of persons of any age, and article 8 prohibits sex with minors under 15. mr. robinson's actions fall under neither category. could mr robinson have been prosecuted for violating a un convention? the answer is no for two reasons: firstly, charging any person with violating any un convention lacks legal grounds as un conventions are not penal laws with penalties (human rights expert phnom penh post 30 april 1999)-persons can only be prosecuted for contravening a relevant domestic law with penalties applicable to that convention; and secondly, un conventions allow for cultural diversity, so that cambodia can define, for sexual and prostitution purposes, a minor as under 15. the un convention on the rights of the child (1989) part 1, article 1 states "for the purposes of the present convention, a child means every human being below the age of 18, unless under the law applicable [in cambodia the debauchery law] to the child majority is attained earlier." child prostitutes are therefore persons under 15. the phnom penh post should, when talking about such matters, use the same statistical groupings as the who and un population fund which classify children as 0-14 years, after all the phnom penh post should reflect cambodian values and not those seen in a christian newsletter.

an international police expert at the ministry of interior has admitted to friends that the majority of christian ngos involved in advising police are motivated by a deep hatred of homosexuals; no wonder then that cambodian police are given wrong advice about laws, and are encouraged to divert scarce resources away from tackling trafficking and forced prostitution into the more lucrative areas of police blackmail and extortion.

should anyone care? well yes of course for a variety of reasons; legally and morally it is wrong to persecute people because of a different sexual orientation; it also raises serious questions about cambodian sovereignty when un-elected foreign-led or funded organisations can subvert the will of a nation's parliament, and on a wider world stage this is a classic example of american christian 'values' being imposed on weaker countries-the bombing in new york should be seen as a rejection of these 'values'.

president bush said recently that he had put "several ngos with nice sounding names" on a terrorist list; perhaps hun sen should do likewise before christian fundamentalists start murdering abortion doctors here as they do in america. why does the cambodian government allow foreigners to force khmers to reject their parents' religion and to spread ideas of hatred which can only cause us trouble in the future?

mr robinson was quite literally terrorised and it is somewhat ironic that the present british ambassador, who is an appointee of the labour government which lowered the age of consent in the uk (for homosexuals) from 18 to 16, should have given british funds to an ngo which engineered this illegal arrest of a british citizen, and which advocates a change in the age of consent from 15 to 18, contrary to british policy; since both cambodia and the uk have signed the un convention on the rights of the child, and have ages of consent at 15 and 16 respectively, sex at 16 is legal in both countries. will the ambassador hide behind the legal obfurep001ions of the ngos, or has he the moral courage to state that homosexuals have human rights which do not include unlawful detention and extortion, and that british funds will no longer be given to certain ngos "with nice sounding names"?

newspapers must also take responsibility for what is going on; reporting on the real facts behind a story, and reporting opinions opposed to ngo thinking, would also make a much more balanced and interesting read.

- touch bunnil, phnom penh

[Guy #2]

i don't understand the comment about the id? what is that? what do you mean by "debauchery". if you get caught with having sex with a minor, of course they will arrest you. common sense tells you that cambodia depends on international foreign aid. like the cambodian government wants the world to know that it tolertates that. even this website won't let you put stuff on her about that. and i am certainly against that. i thought we had been talking about activities between consensual adults.

was the guy arrested for having a gang bang like cambodian pro with consenting adults? please clarify. i suspect that the american citizen was arrested on charges of child [CodeWord123]. you will be arrested in any country for that.

just for my own disclaimer purposes, all of my posts relate to activities between consenting adults ( at least 18).

[Guy #2]

Can you post the article? What did he get arrested for? IS the American Embassy intervening?

NGO? I don't like liberals or peaceniks either but can have more details instead of this conspiracy theory?

If an NGO official is corrupyt, that means that he can be bribed. Then theoretically, why can't the arrested foreigner bribe his way out of being arrested? A government official makes only 20-30 a month. I am NOT advocating bribery. I am just questioning the NGO theory because I want to know why did this American get arrested. If you know the cause or law violated, you can avoid breaking any laws during your stay.

[The Lizard]

Originally posted by Koala89

If you play the rules and go with a girl that is of legal age can they still do something to you.

Hi Koala89,

Actually they could. It has nothing to do with rules because Cambodia has no rules(at least they don't use them or they are very creative in making/using rules or laws if a foreigner is involved). Cambodian girls/women are malnourished-that means even a 20 year old girl looks sometimes like 16. This in connection with no or a forged identity could bring you into troubles. The age of consent in Cambodia is 16 but they prosecuted already foreigners who had a relationship with a 17 year old.

[Koala89]

The Cambodian Daily reported that the above mentioned US citizen got arrested.

Apparently they don't stop arresting foreigners in that country.
Although everybody knows that this are set up situations planed and executed by corrupt NGOs nobody is willing to interfere.
As Black Sabbath said on this site already: there can't be any evidence if identification is not available or forged.

It's election time - so please be careful when coming to Cambodia.
They don't give a shit

If you play the rules and go with a girl that is of legal age can they still do something to you.

[The Lizard]

US citizen got arrested and charged with debauchery on July 1, 2003.
The Cambodian Daily reported that the above mentioned US citizen got arrested.

Apparently they don't stop arresting foreigners in that country.
Although everybody knows that this are set up situations planed and executed by corrupt NGOs nobody is willing to interfere.
As Black Sabbath said on this site already: there can't be any evidence if identification is not available or forged.
It's election time - so please be careful when coming to Cambodia.
They don't give a shit.

[Guy #2]

I am not advocating anything illegal. I am just saying that there is a way to get laid legally and consensually depending on the laws of each country. I am also saying be smart moneywise and also avoid unreasonable risks. Is it illegal to make an adult movie in Brazil? I don't know. But you should be able to recover your costs and get laid. Isn't it easier to find a girlfriend in Cambodia when 90% of the country is unemployed. Perfectly legal to have a girlfriend. If she blows you because you buy her pretty things, nothing illegal about that. No quid pro quo. But you certainly shouldn't marry someone like that. You can also meet women online who want to get married. Fly over there, stay at their place, eat their food. Your room and board is paid for, plus the sex is free. All you pay for is airfare. If she is in Europe, have her fly here. The visa for tourists from Europe has less or no restrictions--at least that is what I have been told. It's free to sample the product if they want to come here. If there is something like orasure on the market, use it if it decreases your risks. Life is a game. You just have to be in control and plan ahead.

[Guy #2]

Your welcome.

If there's a guy out there screwing everyone under the sun, that's his right whether or not it's a death wish. It's guys like him who keep our right to have sex as consensual adults in the mainstream away from all the moralists and conservatives. Go man, go!

As far as Brazil, it's like food. Sometimes, you're hungry for a burger, sometimes you're hungry for steak. Sometimes a hot tiny tit submissive Cambodian women can please you, sometimes a horny white suburban divorcee will do the job, sometimes a trashy big ass Braziliam babe will do it. I say eat it all, if you have the time and the money. Bring a video camera if it's legal, bring some friend, and split the costs, and see if you can make a buck off the video. Promote adult entertainment. Isn't that what Anabolic does? Get a girl for $300 a day in Hungary, ganbang her, and that comes to $100 bucks a piece!

We import our cars from Japan, our Nikes from Thailand, our pussy from Brazil. Who cares where you get as long as you get it.
The key is to avoid spending too much of your money and not be taken advantage of, not taking unreasonable risks, and not doing anything illegal in the country you're visiting.

[Titman]

Originally posted by J.G.
Gentlemen:
Can somebody confirm or otherwise comment on the Cambodia Pro's post stating that there is no shortage of big titted girls in that part of the world. I haven't seen a lot of what I would consider big titted oriental girls over here in the U.S.A, but I don't know what the situation is over in Cambodia.

It also depends on where you live in the US. The West Coast has a lot more people of Asian ancestry. A couple years ago there was a Khmer girl working one of the AMPs here in Seattle who looked like Chloe Vevier, only 18 and about 4'8", in a lot better physical shape and with a wonderful personality. After about the third time I saw her, there was always a line-up for her. Last I heard she had socked away enough money to live high in Phnom Phen for the rest of her life, and took the family back home. Damn!

[Cambodia Pro]

Originally posted by J.G.
Gentlemen:
Can somebody confirm or otherwise comment on the Cambodia Pro's post stating that there is no shortage of big titted girls in that part of the world. I haven't seen a lot of what I would consider big titted oriental girls over here in the U.S.A, but I don't know what the situation is over in Cambodia.

J,

There is no shortage , but you have to look harder for big tits.

No shortage of round hard butts. Most Khmer girls 80% have incredible round asses , and mediium sized tits. Their tits are very firm, and all natural.

I like the Viet little cuties much more. Perky tits and slender bodies. They are all over Cambodia.

For big tits, the best place in the world is the Czech Republic. Germanic descendency women have the biggest tits in the world in general. I am no tit man, but I fuked some big titted blondes in the Czech republic because it was a duty for me to experience their gigantic melons. I tit fuk their gigantic mellons to oblivion. I breast fed on their suculent pink nipples.

Nevertheless, I still prefer the tight pussy hugs from my Viet cuties, and their all around great attitude. Viet girls are sooooooooooo adorable!


From Cambodia with Lust!

[Member #4239]

Gentlemen:
Can somebody confirm or otherwise comment on the Cambodia Pro's post stating that there is no shortage of big titted girls in that part of the world. I haven't seen a lot of what I would consider big titted oriental girls over here in the U.S.A, but I don't know what the situation is over in Cambodia.

[Jony Vegas]

Poomaa - you are 100% correct about your advice for black men going to Brazil. I will be there again next week and there are all types of women there of every shade who like black men.

I am white, but I met a few black guys there, talked with them and watched what they were getting. Race is not a big issue there. There will always be a few in which it is. Besides there are plenty of black women working in Rio. However if a balck man wants asain quisine in Rio, they will have to look very hard to find that.

My next venture is to experiene the unamericaized asain quisine.

Vegas

[MeatMan]

Thanks Guy..The info you gave was as clear cut and straight to the point .If there are no dance clubs in Phnom Penh(I would think there would be at least a couple of them) that's ok I'll just find another alternative.

As for a guide,I have put that into my equation. All I have to do is befriend a driver there.

I'll say it once and I'll say it again...I AM NOT THE ONE TO BACK DOWN..FEAR IS WHAT HOLD US BACK!

MEATMAN

[Jkttroll]

I'm not usually one to judge..... but I feel this is something that NEEDS to be discussed.

http://www.easythumbs.com/yuki/a45/a45a.htm

http://www.exploitedteensasia.com/

If you look at these pictures this guy is doing BBFS and BBAS with countless girls in Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam. Obviously he is either incredibly stupid or has a serious death wish - or both. I wouldn't care one bit if he was only putiting himself at risk... but this kind behavior is PUTTING US ALL AT RISK! By "all" I mean ALL parties involved here --- us the punters, and the girls!

This is the kind of guy that spreads HIV throughout the world. Has anyone seen him? Talked to him? Exactly what the hell is he thinking? It's entirely possible (and very likely) that he himself is HIV positive after so many exploits..... and if so, he is handing out death sentences to numerous, uneducated girls whom in turn very well could pass it on to guys just like you and me!

Again, I'm not one judge in 99.99% of cases..... I'm all for mongoring in 3rd world countries...... but I truly feel that what this guy is doing is JUST WRONG.

What to do? And "Baldguy in the pictures" if you are out there and reading this please give us an explanation.