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08-22-06 01:44 #1212
My first trip to PP
well i think its time to post about my first trip to cambodia back in july.
i will try to detail everything, so if you have never been before and do not understand the terminology, or an abbreviation, you will not have to spend hours, trawling through endless pages on this forum to find out what it means.
i arrived in phnom penh (pp) from bangkok (bkk) via air asia $30.5 (you can’t beat it!) pick up by paris hotel. could not believe the sights, you see just travelling from the airport. my first thought was “is this driver going to get going” it was an open road and we were doing 20mph. within the next ten minute i saw about 10,000 moto’s (moped) some with 5 ft gas bottle strapped across the backseat. other where the passenger is carrying 5 x 4 ft sheets off glass, or where dad is driving with entire family of five on the back. it was the most interesting 5 mls trip i have had. (i don’t get out much!)
over the next few days i tried to work out the road rules. but quickly came to the conclusion, “there aren’t any” there are no road signs, marking or speed limits or very limited. you own the piece of road in front of you, up to your braking distance! a vehicle from a side turning has as much right as you travelling on a main road. they will pull out of a side turning and travel up the wrong side of the road, until they can move over to the correct side. this is why they travel at 20 mph!
having said this, there are some very nice cars out there, and i never saw one with a scratch on it, in the whole two weeks i was out there.
pavements were another issue, it is impossible to walk on the pavement as everyone parks on them or shop blocks them with their goods. in the end you just walk in the road. sometime you have problems getting into a shop, cause the pavements are so blocked!
the paris hotel is quite basic, but if you consider it was only $15 per night, it was ok. it is a $1 tuctuc (moped with carriage on back carrying up to 4 people or more) ride into town, but i think the worst part about the hotel is there is no bar, where you can sit, have a beer and talk to other patrons.
they do have a fish bowl (seating area behind large glass screen) with about 30-50 girls sitting behind all with a unique number. if you like a girl, you give this number to the attendant, who writes this on a board & the girl comes out. you pay $5 and that secures the girl for a 1 hour massage.
i was not over impressed. the first time i picked girl and went to room. i had the 1 hour massage and did not mention boom boom (full sex fs)or yum yum (blow job bj). after the massage i said boom boom $10 and she said yes. no problem!
second time i thought i would take two girls at these prices. picked the two girls and went to room, before massage started, boom boom was discussed, and girls wanted $50. i lol
fuck that, sent one girl packing best one 9/10. other one stayed and negotiations started. i do not have a clue why but i agreed @ $30, why i did not sent her packing, as well i don’t know. after this i did not take any more girls from the fish bowl!
if i was to do it again i would get the price of boom boom before i went to the room. if it was not $10 i would return her there and then and pick another!
in the evening i would take a tuctuc into town, i paid the driver $10 and he waited outside each bar, and then took me onto the next one. (again i overpaid, could have got it cheaper) ist night we went to sophie’s club open 6pm to 3am street 118/53.
as you are walking up the stair you thinking, “where the hell am i going” walls covered in dirt & graffiti! at the top, there is a shabby door with a bell. ring the bell and there is a rush of tiny feet running to the door. once inside about 10 girls (aged between 19-22) swamp you. within minutes of sitting at the bar, your pecker is out and inside some young’s girls’ mouth. after about 3 girls had had their gums around my plums, i had to decline any further cleaning.
at this stage i did not partake in boom boom. the girl and room is available @ cost of $10. i looked in room, not really to my standard no on-suite. shower was just a container of water with a scoop, soap was limited.
we finished our drinks, paid up and left. ($1 each girl bj. beers $2 each)
another bar like this is called cyrcee club it is on 49 street just off 130 street
opens at 6pm to 2am. bit more upmarket than sophies. prices are $20 girl + $5 or $2 for room can’t remember.
across the way was a bar i think call “cat house” the name would suggest this is more than just a bar & restaurant, but it is not. we went inside, lot of staff but i am told they are not available. nice bar full of westerner’s (free pool)
my remaining nights i spent in different bars across pp.
one’s that deserve a mention are:
sharkies bar open 6pm to late 1am ish. full of free lancers (fl) these are girls that attend the bar looking for barangs, (westerner’s) they will go with you for sex long time (lt) = all night or st short time = 1-2 hours depending on what you agreed at outset. prices range st $10 –20 lt $20-30 one girl ask $50. as i got more used to negotiating, i found it best to tell them what you will pay. “you lt $20” simple but affective, most said yes because they know you know the going rate. plus the fact it is low season.
hostess bars i liked were rose bar, zantie bar, and 1 zero 4 (has football table and girls were good at it) these are all in same street street 102 i think. there are other but cant remember names. dv8 was ok on street 148. (hostess bars is where girls are tied to the bar, (not literary though) if you want to leave with them, you have to bar fine them (bf) to release them from the bar. bf normally $10 before 11pm. $5 after. bf is the same if you lt or st the girl. again girls st $10ish lt $20ish.
as a general rule local beers are $1 each, some hostess bar charge $1.5. imported beers heineken range from $1.5 – $2.5.
hostess drinks or ladies drinks i think are about $3 (this is where you buy a girl a drink, and she will spend time talking to you. this $3 is split between bar and girl)
call me a cheap skate, but i did not do it, i would talk to the girls and play pool with them, and they never asked for a drink. sometimes i would give them a $1 as i was leaving or i would lt them.
after five days at paris hotel, i moved to flamingo’s hotel on 51 street. not one of the cheapest hotel at $20 per night, but i liked the wi-fi. the rooms were on the small side, but had most creature comforts, but no room safe! btw both hotel were “girl friendly” (gf) some hotel will not let you bring guests back.
flamingo’s is also convenient for shanghai bar, chillies, heart of darkness and walkabout which is open 24hr. first two are, hostess bars, and later two are fl bars.
i also went to a lot of other bars, during my two weeks, but can’t remember half their name, or where they were.
changing money is not a problem now, atm machine are now available, but limited in numbers. i think there are about 15 in whole of pp. i am from london in the uk, i used my nationwide card, they do not charge commission and give you the rate of the day, and so it does not cost anything to withdraw money. atm’s pump out usd ($) only. conversion rates are 4100 riel = $1. any change given less than $1 will be give in riel.
both currencies are accepted, but any ripped or torn $ bills, will not be accepted.
if you have never been to cambodia, i would certainly recommend it, i found it friendly and safe, but perhaps 2 weeks, does not give me the right to comment on such issues.
if i was to sum up pp in two words it would have to be “it’s different”
i also went to sihnouk ville for 4 days but i will post my experience there on the relevant site
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08-21-06 22:48 #1211
Flaminos Hotel
I was quite happy in Flamingos hotel $20 per night. Possible not one of the cheapest, but it had Wi-Fi and it was handy for Walkabout, shanghai bar, heart of darkness, chillies and not a million miles from the waterfront! Rooms on the small size, but has the creature comforts. No safe though!
Originally Posted by Vielen Dank
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08-16-06 14:59 #1210
Sophie - First visit
Visited yesterday, arrived there around 5:50pm, was quite easy to find the place after reading directions on this forum, but was in for a surprise looking at the entrance to the building, the stairway and the club itself, The main entrance to the club was closed and had to knock and wait, then a girl comes and opens the door, no one in the club, so I ask if they are open or I should return back at a later time, she mentions that they are open, reading the forum I was imagining it to be something like the EDEN club lobby area, but this was a different treat, sat on the stool at the bar, before I could order a beer with the aged lady behind the counter and before even she opens the bottle, the dick was already out and there were about 5 ladies around all trying to give sample BJs, that was really cool, with no customers in the bar, and still a lot of other girls moving around and putting on their makeup for the evening, then I selected two girls, one very cute looking, slim and slightly tall compared to others, maybe around 19 to 20 years, and one more who was average and around 22-24 years of age, the other girls left, but not before asking for a dollar for the 10sec sample BJ’s, then the two girls start mentioning we go to the room, I mention to them maybe for the second round, depending on how good the first round is at the bar, we agree and move to the couch, still with the dick poping out, once on the couch, they start a really good BBBJ, great technique, it goes on for the next 10 mins by then there were 6 to 7 more customers, it is surprising to see people arriving sharp 6pm by 6:10, the bar was almost full. finish in the cute girls mouth and she keep sucking for some more time after I cum. That was my first experience at BJ bar and its great.
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08-16-06 10:28 #1209
Hotels in PP
V D
Try this site for lots of info on hotels, and other travel related info: www.talesofasia.com
Cheers
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08-16-06 04:17 #1208
What is the best hotel to stay at in PP
I will be making my first trip to PP in September. I would like to stay at a hotel that is very close to the action, clean, and is GF. I have read many posts concerning hotels to take girls for ST but not many posts about where you all have actually stayed. Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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08-15-06 23:00 #1207
moto price
Originally Posted by Dodomad
to dodomad
I carry 20 baht bill with me to paid the moto driver or you can paid $ 5 usd
for all day most moto driver will be happy with that . there no way moto
driver in cambodia get paid more than thailand or china .
fast eddie 48
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08-15-06 08:55 #1206you are absolutely right Asia player Originally Posted by Asia Player
You just get on one, ride, get off, hand the money and start walking away never negociate!
You will loose your time and your temper which you should never do of course.
The thing is you must know the price before hand of course.
Ask locals expats bar owners people who live there. Don't ask tourists!
Tourists will pay 1$ because they are stupid enough to believe what motodops tell them!
Thanks to them we get hassled so much because they think we are going to pay barang prices!
And yes I pay 2000 riel from the martini to the walkabout, but of course at 1 am I take a motodop I know so he knows how much I will pay him
Then I don't have to dicsuss the price especially when you are with a girl
They know you want to go home quickly and that you are weak.
It doesnt work with me sorry guys!
In addition I never used one of these motodops who get the martini driver card. This is all bull shit just another way to charge you more
I know many guys think 1$ is a good price but think twice before you pay please. Everytime I arrive at the airport I pay 1$ from the airport until the central market. Nothing more to say!
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08-14-06 13:59 #1205
PP Motodops
Just to confirm my idea about motodop pricing - if you ask them "how much is it?" then they know you dont know and will overcharge, right? Originally Posted by Dodomad
So you just get on one, ride, get off, hand the money and start walking away? or do you discuss the price before leaving on every trip?
And 2000 from Martinis sounds cheap - are you travelling at least as far as Flamingo Hotel?
If you are with a girl I always think the driver will ask for $1 as he wants to profit more from the situation.
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08-13-06 10:18 #1204Thanks for your report Originally Posted by Asian Rain
Just want to make some corrections so all members pay the right price it would be good for everybody and don't call me cheap charlie please I just don't want that Cambodia gets Thailand prices!
SOPHIE CLUB BBBJ is still 1$ per girl unless you come at the bar then it is 5$. Once you got in the room it could be for a BJ or a fuck it will be 10$.
It opens at 6pm so usually at this time it is already dark.
MIKADO is still 10$ ST
LE CYRCEE changed his regulations it means you have to pays separately 2$ for the room and then the fee for the girl which is still 10$ (try to negociate please! )
Generally speaking in all the freelance places and foreigner owned places the price is 10$ ST 20$ LT period.
Everybody paying above this price pays too much!
I remember not such a long time ago at K11 you could fuck for 3 $ ST the vietnamese girls you see at the martini in the evening
So 10$ for ST for the same girls a few years later seems very good to me. Prices in phnom penh didn't get a 300% increase in a few years!
BTW the price for a motodop is 1000 riel in the day and 500 more at the night. One doesn t agree go away he will come back to you since there are so many everywhere!
Don't even try to discuss you lose your time and your energy!
2000 riel is what I pay when I come back with a girl from the martini at 1 am. Happy fucking everybody!
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08-12-06 11:52 #1203
PNH Pilgrimage
Made my annual pilgrimage to PNH a couple weeks ago. Very nice to be back in the thick of one of the most relaxing mongering locations in Asia. My goal for this trip had been to branch out try some of the places reported in the forum, but I didn't get much beyond a few visits - my usual haunts were simply too reliable and my time was too limited.
Needless to say, the visit produced some notable shags.
I still haven't finished all the video processing. As I had a great time on my last visit with Khmer girls, I had planned to go more with Khmer talent than Viet, but ended up 50-50 on my pickups. The Khmer girls have come a long way towards giving better customer service (BBBJ is standard into the package), but the Viet girls still seem to have the edge on hooking me.
With the virtual shutdown of Svay Pak (k11), the main benefit to PNH has been the flourish in bars - especially bars with knock shops. Unlike the rather nasty (not to mention dodgy) Street 63 massage shops or God-awful Toul Kork, these places operate quite above board and are even well-advertised in the tourist magazines.
If you search the forum, you will find a few field reports on each of these places. As the streets of PNH are laid out on a sensibe grid pattern, you will find them easily with any free tourist map. A quick summary of potential places:
(1) WALKABOUT [corner Street 51 and Street 174]. Open-air freelance pickup bar. Don't judge the place by what is there... be patient and settle in until a decent girl comes in, then be quick to strike.
(2) SOPHIE CLUB [#9E1 Street 118, corner Street 53 (entrance)]. Lots written about this BJ joint. Daytime option and perfect for a long business lunch, although it is you who will get eaten. Girls compete for your custom the second you walk in the door. $3/bbbj. $2/lady drinks. $10 FS in upstairs room.
(3) SHARKY'S [#126 Street 130]. Bar with pool tables and freelance talent. Hit and miss.
(4) MIKADO [#21 Street 136, corner of Street 49]. Small and cozy bar with talent you can take right there. Side door leads to ST hotel. $12/FS short time.
(5) MARTINI [#110A Street 173]. Bar, disco and pool tables with open-air restaurant. Mix of Viet and Khmer freelancers.
(6) LE CYRCEE CLUB [#13 Street 49]. Very near Mikado, so easy to barhop both. Small bar with rooms upstairs. $15/FS short time. $2/ST room. I have seen a quote for $20/2 girls, but have not tried this option myself.
(7) HEART OF DARKNESS [#25 Street 51]. Small bar very near Walkabout. Freelancers. Does not get going until past 12pm... most of the girls go here as a last chance. Good in combination with Shanghai and Walkabout.
(8) SHANGHAI [corner Street 51 and Street 172]. Small open-air bar between Walkabout and Heart of Darkness. Good to check out on the barhop between the two.
There is no real preferred place amongst these - cost of food and drinks does not vary significantly from place to place, so the mongering atmosphere is the determining factor. It really depends upon one's mood, mongering style and time of night. If you like to hunt a bit for your prey (as I do) and bring it back to your place for the kill (as I do), then you can start your evening at Martini and then hop between Walkabout, Shanghai and Heart of Darkness (and possibly Sharky's) if nothing works out.
If you like a little more cozy/private get-it-all-in-one-place possibility, then moving between Sophie, Mikado and Le Cyrcee will likely satisfy your needs.
With the exception of Martini, all of these places are located around Central Market or just south of it - no more than 2-3 min 2000 riel moto ride between any location, so barhop to your heart's content.
If you are looking for a very cheap hotel option, try Lucky Ro Hotel at #122 Street 110 (023 986 559) for thier $10/night super cheap aircon rooms with big beds. No mints on the pillow here, just a flat sleeping surface. Staff expect you to bring a girl and can broadcast porn movies to your room, although when they offered to do so, I replied that I prefer to make my own porn movies.
Ask for a room with hot water if that is important to you. Just tell them you have stayed there before and you will get the $10 rate.
When I go to PNH, I only spend money on girls. If you are looking for cheap places to eat, just try the backpacker places on Street 93 behind the Phnom Penh hotel near Boeung Kak Lake. The Family Restaurant is my favorite and the Italian place up the road is great. Lots of cheap Indian places too. I never spend more than $4-5 for a belly full of food. I also get a kick out of melting in with the politically conscious young backpackers - one group of fat white cows was having a spirited discussion about the terrible war in Iraq while the dirty sex tourist at the next table quietly paged through the snaps of sweet girls on his new mobile phone. Wonderful to have one's priorities in order.
Enjoy PNH, AR+
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08-09-06 09:52 #1202
GF Hotels
At least 95% of hotels etc are GF.
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08-09-06 09:31 #1201
hotels (broadband?)
Similar to the Big Luck is the Lucky Star and New York (there's probably 30 more...). The Lucky Star use to have some decent Khmer action right outside the door. The New York and Big Luck have great locations. The New York has a good restaurant. The Big Luck has a nice pool. The latter (bigluckhotel.com) still gets my vote.
Frankly I'd move to another in a heartbeat if they offered some decent broadband access.
Does anyone have any suggests on moderate priced hotels in PP with broadband?
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08-09-06 08:33 #1200
Recommendation for a GF Guest House/Hotel Please
Read the Forum, DV8 seems well recommended but tried to contact via e-mail and PM without success - got no response from either channel. Seen some ‘iffy reports on Flamingo on the net, not sure how accurate they are. Big Luck Hotel seems an option.
Any other suggestions?
Thanks
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08-05-06 01:12 #1199
Hunting with different tools
Just like fishing with some people using hook and line and others nets or spearsguns or in extreme cases dynamite. Humble Turd has a style of hunting while Rising Son has another style.Each of us is entitled to his opinion of how he wants to hunt his "prey"or "meat" depending on his point of view.Humble Turd s style is fine for him,while Rising Son enjoys another style.To cite an example Old Asia Hand the seasoned monger with lots of experience uses a hard strict firm style while I play nice guy and use a friendly pleasant style.Yet we are friends and get along just fine Let each guy hunt with his choice of hunting technique and respect that choice.My 2 centavos humble opinion Originally Posted by Rising Son
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08-05-06 00:40 #1198
Rising Son,
I certainly didn't mention western women. I know some fantastic western women. Obviously Humble Turd has his own unique views on western women and women in general. As for Cambodian *****s, I'm all for respect but I think you're going way over the top if you're calling girls beautiful. That would even make a 'good girl' cringe, never mind a *****. And I've always left Martinis with the young, sexy girl I want without worrying about her favourite drink and snacks. Then again, I'm a young hansum man with a knockout personality so I don't even have to make the effort. I'm sure the same is true for you .
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