2003 Prague General Reports

[Worldtrav0099]

Ashok:

I am as surprised as you are to find out that the number is not working. BUT, you may recall that I said that Michelle had related to me that business was slow because they were having telephone problems.

As I recall right now, I had tried going to this privat earlier in the week at about 2 AM. I had called and they told me to go to a corner nearby and then to call them from there. When I got to the corner, I tried calling about 10X and got no answer. That was the night that I finally called Michelle at M+M escort and asked for Vanessa at 3 AM.

But, let's not call it a lie.

I also had another phone number to call (a mobile number) that I got from them after the first night's three-way. I am trying right now to get a list of numbers called from the hotel that I stayed at, because I know that I called the mobile from the hotel because my SIM card had run out of cash.

When I do get this number from the hotel, I will call the girls and try to find out what is happening with the number listed on the site.

If you are in the area, just try walking up to the privat directly , I guess. It is only about 5 minutes from Wenceslas Square, any taxi driver can get you there, and the bell is marked ODEM. They are on the 3rd or 4th floor. What's the worst that could happen? You don't get buzzed in?

[Capt Fred]

Alex:

I hope you get to see this posting before next Monday!

I hope you still try Amanda Escort, and everything goes well for you.

Hopefully, I will go there in December.

Have lot of fun in Prague, and keep me posted!

Fred

[Ashok152]

Traveler099,

Please accept my 'umble apologies for not crediting the great finder. That number took many calls from me too. At the least I wanted to say "Steve" sent me but no answer and no VM.

Let's call it a LIE and it may come back....

lol

Ash

[Ashok152]

Traveller,

Sorry to hear your story. The hotel phone bill being the worst. I ran up a similar number of calls on the local mobile line I picked up from Oscars for 400KR ($15?) calling the Privat lists from escort.cz. Still have half left on the card and a cz tel number.

The list shrank swiftly to a few that I could communicate with. But these seemed to work well ranging from 700Kr for 30 mins to 2500Kr for an hour with light fetish. All in Praha 2, walking distance from the center.

Good but not great is the best description and this left to my leaving Praha with unspent cash. Their loss.

On a different not, I noticed earlier that SW approaches were being made to guys dressed in suits. So I donned my business jacket, a nice pair of pants and business shoes and walked around old town. Had two hits, one a czech (blond etc) the other by a darker group. Passed on both. Too young and lean for my taste.

In the old town center strolling slowly and alone had approaches from several "guides" who offered "free" tickets with escort services - declined these too based on forum experiences.

Praha is not on my future menu though a great town to visit with excellent tourist activities, food, wine and beer at low cost.

Happy touring.

Ash

[GandJim]

Tasty1, Paddy,

Well, .... I disagree (partly) ;-)

It is correct that many escort agencies in Prague use bait & switch, but this does not mean that there are no honest ones. In the upperscale ones (with supermodel girls), I know these ones, which always sent the girl ordered :

Eli Agency (Prague Angels)
Prague Bunnies
AAA Travel Consult

Prices of Eli are going through the roof, but Prague Bunnies and AAA are still affordable.

It is correct that it's a hit or miss. My best and worse experiences come from escort, not from club or private. But these agencies also care for customer feedback. Last month, AAA sacked a girl after complain from a customer (who is a friend of mine) and offered him another night for free with another girl. Eli (in the good old days of reasonable price) on one occasion reimbursed me part of the money because the girl said she had to leave 2 hours early (booking was for 12 hours) and, coincidence ?, she disappeared from their listing.

I've read problems Traveler 0099 had last year with Prague Bunnies (reposted below). Well, that confirms that they will never try to send you another girl if the one you ordered is not available. Problem with them is that some girls are so successful that you need to book them well in advance. I do it for at least a month, even 2 for one girl I deadly wanted.

GandJim

[Paddy]

Tasty1,

I agree. Any guy who thinks that the supermodel that he sees on the net is the same one who is going to show up at his door is a dreamer. Being a Prague veteran, I gave up on escort services long ago. The whole escort concept is bad and poorly conceived to begin with.

On the other hand, if you go to a club you can actually "see" the goods and make your selection. You can also talk to the girl beforehand where you get to know her and, most importantly, she gets to know you. I believe that women tend to be more responsive if they know you somewhat and have had some conversation. Call it a type of foreplay if you want. None of this is available if you go the escort route.

If you go to a club the owners have a vested interest in making sure that you're happy because they have a reputation to uphold and want repeat customers. They're in business to make money. The girls are also well aware of these basic business principles and the last thing they want is to have customers complain about them to management.

I once met a girl at a club who kept insisting on a threesome and having had one the night before at a different club I wasn't "up" for it. I decided to leave and asked one of the club supervisors to call me a taxi. He asked why and when I told him, he bought me a drink, asked me to stay and took the girl into the back. She came out real apologetic and literally begged me to stay. I did but I picked another girl.

So, it's all about having control of the sitution. Escort services and privates tend to give you little or no control.

[Doctor_Skank]

Tasty1,

The escorts listed in most posts below were all above 200€ if I read correctly, some more. That might be a normal escort price, but it is still overpriced in my opinion. $45 on the otherhand is cheap. Which $45 service are you refering to? This is almost too cheap... I did read your post refering to the price....it is per hour at a Czech agency. How is the quality of woman? Seems to me that most posters were paying much more.

I am refering to a pick up bar where pro girls work and the merchandise can be checked out. And I am looking for girls for all night, multiple sessions etc in the price range of $100-150 with DFK, BBBJ and other things I consider standard. Is this possible in Prague?

Of course I prefer picking up normal girls if possible and as long as I still can I will. But the pro option is often money and time well invested if the only interest is surefire sex without any hassle of chatting up women all night while risking going home with absolutely nothing.

[Tasty1]

I agree with Traveler0099, anyone who expects to see girls in pictures on escort.cz delivered, is out of his mind. Oh yes you can get girls lokking like that and even better but do not waste your time picking a specific girl and expecting exactly same one to show up at your door, privat or whatever.

Dr. Skank:

Why not go to a club/bar (like Nancy, K5 etc), pick the girl and do your stuff. That way you know the price and the merchandise. If you are still hung up on being so good looking that you can "pick up" a girl at the bar, trying one at home might be safer and cheaper. At least you will save the airfare. I mean no offense, but be real. Do you really think 1200CK ($45) for an hour is "overpriced"?

[WakeyWakey]

To add more insight to Sara, this is an email I sent, and the reply.
An automailer. A bullshit sales pitch word document was attached to the email telling me how great they are!

***
I do not want to judge your agency on a few reviews.
What ARE your prices? Is oral and other services extra?
I would like to use your agency but I dont like when i see a questionable review!
An honest reply would be welcomed.

Thanks,

Pete

Dear Pete,
thanx a lot for your interess in my girls.)
I send you complete information in atashed file.
See you soon in beautiful Prague...
Kind regards
Sara
***

As tempting as the girls look, if I want to sleep with a lifeless piece of flesh, I will go to my butchers and get something there.

[Doctor_Skank]

I've been following the recent reports as I may be in Prague soon. Seems that there are a lot of overpriced escort agencies and some houses and apartments that feature girls. Neither of these are really my choice of venues.

Are there pick up bars where working girls are and where you take them back home to your place?

If so, what are the most popular ones and their rates?

I have scrolled back a while and read old reports, but have yet to find anything.

Just curious, thanks!

[Worldtrav0099]

prague and a word of caution to my fellow hobbyists

gentelmen: i wrote this report one year ago and decided to share it here. what a difference a year makes!!

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i was planning to be in europe on business and having heard the wonderful stories about prague, i planned a 24 hour stay. in anticipation of my visit, i spent a great deal of time studying the ladies at www.escort.cz, looking at the country report in **********.com, as well as joining www.captain69.co.uk and reading the occasional prague review there and on www.theescortreview.com.

what i was looking for was not so unusual: classic sex (as they call it – sex with condom in multiple positions), bbbj or owo (depending upon where you, dear reader, come from), and kissing with tongue. i did not insist on anal (doesn’t interest me much), nor am i into [CodeWord117], or anything else out of the ordinary.

bottom line for me: hobbying in prague is a rip-off and a waste of time. let me explain.

1. reviews in ***. one of the girls i saw was denisa, who had been reviewed by jhaskins at *** (who is a long time *** prague reviewer). more on her later, but i can only assume that mr. haskins is a shill for this agency (pictures accurate? as if!), or that denisa is a leopard who has changed her spots, or the agency sends out who it likes. despite being promised by the agency that the girl in the photo is the one who would show, any resemblance between the girl who showed at my door and the girl in the pictures is entirely coincidental (well, they both have two eyes!). my note of caution to you all based on two escorts in prague: don’t expect the girl in the picture to show up. and be a lot braver than i was to turn her away at the door if she is not. more on this situation later. bottom line for me: if you see a picture that looks like the latest czech model in playboy or victoria’s secret, she will not show at your door, despite what the agency will claim.

pictures and claims on www.escort.cz. this site has to rank up there with the biggest crock of b.s. i have ever seen. do doubt the owner of the site will claim that the site is only as good as the information that he gets from the agencies, but come on! the driver of the getaway car of the bank robbery can also be prosecuted for a crime.

note to mr. olduv sen, the owner of escort.cz. you would do yourself a better service by being a more reliable and reputable source of information, instead of acting as an accomplice in an elaborate and ultimately obvious rip-off scheme.

let’s itemize the places and calls that i made (all sites are on www.escort.cz):

privat don giovanni & celebrity escorts: looking for pavlinka (described by jhaskins as a sex machine on ***). person who answers the phone says no pavlinka works there, even though her photo is on the site.

escort sen and privat pusinka: called both places about 8 times looking for anyone. beata got a great review by jhaskins and sen girls are regularly featured on escort.cz. eight calls, voice mail every time. left a message twice in english (no call back). do they exist?

andre club: great reviews on *** of romana and eliska. i call the place. romana, eliska, and sharon (all on web site) not working today. any girls who do bbbj? no.

escort denisa: another site featured prominently quite often on escort.cz. 15-20 girls on site, great *** review of a duo. called 3 times. voice mail only – btw, this is on a saturday afternoon & night.

agency veronika: some great looking babes. phone operator says that none will kiss or do owo. several pictures look scanned; i suspect that none of these ladies would have shown up.

girls from sara, privat sara, privat beauty, private iluze: several different phone numbers listed for each service. every time i call one of these places, i get the same lady answering -- a most tired and annoying *****. after the sixth or seventh call to yet another phone number, she gets angry at me and says, "don’t call back unless you want a girl." i say, well how should i know that you will be answering the phone for every one of these numbers? she says, "one hour before, you call me with the girl’s name and she will come to your hotel." i say, well, who is working so i can chose (given the pictures on their site)? all are working. how about this one? not working. this one? not available until later maybe. the other? doesn’t work here anymore. this one? she is working. ok, let’s talk prices. 2 hours = 8,000 czk. how about bbbj? add 1,000. kiss? add 1,000. massage? add 1,000. she then starts giving me a hard time. "you have pen? you taking notes? have you written this all down? don’t call me again unless you want girl." fuck you very much.

privat woow aka goldsilver.cz: reluctant to send someone to hotel. english is good. i turned down invitation to come to privat because it is pouring outside and i don’t want the hassle. anyway the girl i wanted to see, eva, does not work on saturday.

escort angelina: some great looking babes again. owo? kiss? only two will do that, of 15 or so girls on site. extra 3,000. attitude of the phone operator turns me off altogether. no way am i having one of these ladies show up.

escort art, escort gabriela, escort jennifer, escort andrea, escort jessica, escort alena, escort petra, escort leona. i called all of these places. every call answered by a different and disinterested phone operator. any girls bbbj and kiss? no to all.
escort vanessa. in the afternoon, i pick out denisa, advertised as 180 cm tall and slim. pictures show a tall girl (180 cm) with long brown hair with small breasts. just what i like. more on her later.
i ask for her to come to my room on saturday afternoon.

escort tereza and klara. some of the same girls on escort kristina are advertised here. or at least both sites use the same fake pictures. no girls will bbbj or kiss.

escort kristyna. some major babes here. several have been reviewed on ***. 2 hours, 8,000 czk. wait a second. bbbj? extra 1,000. kiss? same. anal? same. i ask about the same girls pictured on tereza and klara. this phone operator claims that every one will do bbbj and kiss. are you guys getting the picture? i ask for a blonde, denisa, to come to my hotel at 10 pm. two denisas in one day? just a coincidence.

bottom line: altogether i made about 70 phone calls (literally, i have the hotel bill for $130 usd in calls to prove it!) and all i found was deception, double-talk, non-responsiveness, rudeness, and voice mail. my suggestion is to stay away from all of these places and go to another city.

a week before leaving for europe, i e-mailed about 12 of the agencies listed on these various sites, particularly those found on escort.cz. of those i emailed, only two emailed back to me: prague-bunnies and mon cheri. linda at pb was very helpful, emailing me photos of girls who had "pictures upon request." i gave her my arrival date and asked for pictures of those ladies not on the site. i received pictures of 5 or so girls who were "pictures upon request," giving me in all pictures of about 12 girls. i picked my five favorites – some with and some without pictures on the site -- who interested me. the message back was that 4 of the 5 were not available (two were out of the country when i would be in prague; and this after giving linda my schedule!) and the fifth was my #5. i told her that i would call her upon my arrival in prague to discuss. bottom line: i tried calling her three times the day of my arrival and received a voice mail message each time (try figuring out what a voice mail message is in czech!). moncheri of prague was also helpful, and i selected simona from their site, a tall, slim, model-looking girl. it turns out that when i inquire about her services, she does not kiss or do bbbj. i get a recommendation for a 19 year old girl who is 165 cm in height (i was looking for 170 or taller) and no pictures. of course, i am assured that she will perform all requested services. when i called about 9 pm saturday night for her (after a rather frustrating day), it turns out she has a family emergency and cannot see me. bottom line: even the more "reputable" agencies will give you the run-around.
finally took the plunge on saturday afternoon with denisa from escort vanesa. denisa was advertised as 18 years old and 180 cm tall and the pictures looked good. i verify that she does bbbj and kissing. i ask for the two hour price in case things are going well. one hour after asking for her, "she" shows up at the door with her driver, a guy over 6 feet tall and rather wide. if this were moscow, he would be called a "flathead," a term usually reserved for bodyguards in the russian mafia (see nightclub reviews at www.exile.ru ). i open the door, denisa walks past me into the room, barely 170 in thigh-high hooker boots and chewing gum, and the driver puts his foot in the door and says, "give me the money, please." okay. so here i am with this meaning-looking thug in my face and a woman who is clearly not the lady in the photos paying me a visit. oh well, i say to myself, at least the operator promised bbbj and kissing. wrong!

we immediately undress at her suggestion and she plops herself down on the bed next to me. when i go to kiss her after some small talk, she turns her head and says she does not kiss. i can give her a small peck on the lips but other that that, she is off limits. this pisses me off, but i say to myself, well at least there’s a bbbj coming. she begins licking my chest with the ever-so-slightest use of her tongue (by the way, the gum is still in her mouth). she continues licking my chest and she’s rubbing her fingernails on me as she’s kissing (notice that her hand has not dipped below my waist). she finally picks herself up and goes for her purse and pulls out a condom. she opens it and puts it in her mouth, clearly readying it for me. i say, whoa! i paid for kissing and bbbj and i have gotten neither. her response? "the operator didn’t tell me this. i don’t do that." i say, let’s call the operator. she tries calling on her cell phone while i try calling using the hotel phone. after several false starts and busy signals by both of us, i finally get through to the operator and i tell her, "remember i paid extra for this?" (i did not even mention the fact that my denisa did not at all look like the girl in the pictures.) her response is to ask to speak to the girl. what ensues is quite a ruckus, as the two of them are arguing in czech rather heatedly. mr. happy, by the way, has gone from standing at attention to lying down dejectedly.

after a few minutes, my girl has "lost" the argument and she begins a half-hearted bbbj (gum still in her mouth), but still will not kiss. time is running out so i ask for the condom so i can "drill" her. we go at it doggy and mish, but her attitude is clearly miles away. i finally decide that the only way i am going to get off is to literally take things into my own hands. i jerk off on her chest and neck (hoping i could have gotten her right in the face, as she so well deserved). she goes and takes a shower, gets dressed, and she is gone. thank goodness.

having spent much of the rest of the afternoon on the phone. i finally decide to try the girl denisa http://www.kristynaescort.cz/girl.php3?gn=3&gp=0&h=1&lang=2&menu=2 at kristyna escort recommended by jhaskins and others at ***. so looks like a major babe and the reviews promise an amazing time. at 10 pm, the appointed time, she shows up, along with her driver (the same guy!), and hotel security. seems that security wants 1,000 czk because i have an after-hours visitor. so i give him the 1,000, denisa is sitting in the bed doing what? chewing gum! (it is another girl, but not in the picture). and the same burly guy at the door asking for her 2 hour fee. this is like the movie groundhog day! i was just too beaten down at that point so i paid him and he was gone.

denisa was not bad looking and spoke english well. she’s 26 (although i guessed her age at 31, but when she asked me, i said 28) and the mother of a little boy. well, guess what sports fans? no bbbj or kissing! why? exchange of bodily fluids and too unclean. ok, i was beaten. she’s got two really rock-hard implants, and refused to take her stockings off. she gave me a mediocre bbbj, no daty allowed, and i finally decided to try intercourse. she got on for some cowgirl, but very quickly her knees got tired. we moved into doggie and i started to hammer away. i don’t know what inspired me (frustration? insanity?), but i said, how about some anal? her answer, "sure." you could have knocked me over. she lies on her back to start and then she flips over into doggie. she had clearly not prepared for this eventuality, and let’s just say that the sights, smells, and sounds were a real turn-off.

after a change of equipment, i managed to come in her vag, doggie-style. as soon as i could, i sent her on her way. glad to be rid of her.

6. denisa does provide me with one favor and gives me the phone number of a taxi company that will take me to the airport on the meter (about 350-400 czk) instead of a flat rate of 800 quoted to me by the hotel. does anyone notice a pattern here in czecho-land? the driver arrives at the appointed hour on sunday am, speaks modest english, and i engage him in conversation. i tell him about my adventures the day before and i really get him laughing. he offers me a guidebook to czech sex nightlife, which i decline. we finally get to the airport and i realize that i had given away most of my extra money to hotel security the previous night and i only had a bunch of usd $50 bills, three $1s, and 200 in czk. the fare was 370 czk. i told him that i didn’t have all the money and guess what? he says, "just give me what you have. you deserve not to be hassled anymore." thank you, sir!!! goodbye prague, goodbye rip-offs, goodbye

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as i re-read this,, i have to say that very little has changed in the past year. bait & switch still exists; bad phones; shilling by escort.cz all are still with us.

i guess that a lot more preparation, more time, and a lot of luck made my most recent visit a trip to remember.

happy mongering!!

[Worldtrav0099]

Oh crap .. phones are off the hook !!! What have I done.

IT WAS ALL A LIE !!!!

(Note to self: must keep these things secret next time)

And, yes, Ashok it was me that did the review. Give some credit where credit is due.

LOL !!!

[Alex Blanc]

Fred

Thanks for your info I was also waiting for someone to respond to your enquiry as I have booked a girl with them next monday. I would like more info before commiting myself. I was geared up for Privat Sara or Sara Sexy as her email are adressed, but will give that a miss thanks to the WSG Forum.

So my first visit next Monday 29th. OK obvioulsy I will go to K Club but what about afternoon action? any tips? Has anyone been to Privat Desert (sp)?

Alex

[GandJim]

Ashok152,

It's Traveler0099 who posted about Denisa and Mikayla ;-)

So credits to him. I must say that I'm quite interested myself reading his post, and will certainly try to contact them on my next visit to Prague. :-)

GandJim

[Capt Fred]

Alex Blanc:

With regard to Amanda Escort, I got the same kind of information (270 Euro). And, they told me if I make the reservation via email, it would cost me 250 Euro! nfortunately, no one has replied to my requests for information on this agency! I have posted twice requesting information, and no one seems to know anything!

Fred