2006 General Reports

[Superforce99]

...{this passage from your earlier post} having said that; she than asked me what shall they do to her. i told them, they should [CodeWord123] her to death and than throw her into the sea. the girl plead for forgiveness saying that she is just playing a joke on me. we told her that we will forgive her and let her off if she does bj for all my “assistants” in which she actually agreed and did the job. my “assistants” escorted her out of the hotel after that. there was no big mafias or no big guys waiting to help her.

....johnny; we did not [CodeWord123] her, she only gave all my assistants a bj each for free, and i did paid her for her service but only at the agreed price and nothing more. the only thing that she had not planned was that she have to give 4 free bj in payment for "playing the joke" on trying to extort me for hk$5000 by crying [CodeWord123].

ag

well, all i'm saying is that if the girl (or you) presented the situation as you
described in a court, you and your assistants would all be 100% convicted of [CodeWord123].
"free bjs" to 4 assistants under threat of bodily harm wouldn't be seen in a positive
light by a judge no matter what she did to you. just be careful and remember that
this isn't grade school where "he/she did it to me first!" doesn't work as
justification in the eyes of the law.


j

[Ace Gallant]

asian gambler:

when the word [CodeWord123] is spoken i would suggest ending the relationship as soon as possible. give her nothing and call hotel security. no 4 free bjs, no more negotiating.

if accused of [CodeWord123], even by a prostitute, would a tourist be able to leave hong kong before the case is finished through the legal system? how much does it cost in legal fees to defend yourself? lawyers in hong kong are expensive. i'm glad it worked out for you and your assistants, but you took some big risks.

the only way to win that game is not to play.

thanks for your concerns, but obviously we are confident of what we are doing at that moment to be able to threathen her back.

i cannot tell you what am i doing in hk with 4 assistants but give it some thoughts. one of the "assistant" is a lawyer.

thanks again.
ag

[Jimbehr2000]

asian gambler:

when the word [CodeWord123] is spoken i would suggest ending the relationship as soon as possible. give her nothing and call hotel security. no 4 free bjs, no more negotiating.

if accused of [CodeWord123], even by a prostitute, would a tourist be able to leave hong kong before the case is finished through the legal system? how much does it cost in legal fees to defend yourself? lawyers in hong kong are expensive. i'm glad it worked out for you and your assistants, but you took some big risks.

the only way to win that game is not to play.

[Ace Gallant]

ag,

i laughed my ass off on this one! actually, you were a bit more gentle on her than some other guys would've been. some guys probably would've dp'ed her. some guys would've paid her the extra 6000 hkd, but she would've earned it good. they figure, if you want the 6000 hkd so bad, then you can have it, but ya gotta earn it. hey, if she goes scrambling to the cops, you can always point to the extra dough you gave her willing, greedy ass.

as for the other poster's accusation of [CodeWord123], hey, she agreed to do it and she got paid for it, so i hardly think that this is [CodeWord123]. the way i see it, you're giving her a lot better treatment than what she threatened you with, so, hey, wtf. 4 blow jobs for your 4 assistants is a nice "joke", too, if you ask me. almost as good as her "joke" on you.

the white knights may whine about this one by crying "[CodeWord123]", but i think that she got her just desserts. now, if you had "hurt" her without paying the extra 6000 hkd, then i would frown upon you. but you didn't. you just played a little joke on her, so all's fun and games.

you've got my applause,
drjoker.

p.s. remeber, they're prostitutes. if the price is right, they'll do anything willingly. remember, if they do it willingly, it is not [CodeWord123], nor abuse. got it?!

so, lighten up and have some fun ;0)

a successful lawyer (japan man on the shanghai/japan thread) once told me, if a girl have sex with a man in the man's house or his hotel room, the odd that she is going to win in court for [CodeWord123] drop only 5%. unless she have prove that she had been kidnapped or forced or coax to go to the man premises and been forced to have sex; there is no way she can cry [CodeWord123]. in any case, she must also have prove of use of force or prov of injury in order to be able to convience that she was [CodeWord123].

the incident happens to me a couple years ago and i am already not that dumb to fall for it.

on the other hand; i am one guy who do not like to treat female badly, whether they are pros or not, female are human, and have to be respected as well. i am also awre there are some very nasty females in which any case i will not let them off easily.

well... anyways.... i let her off as i cannot assumed that she is actting upon her own will, may be she had been forced into be part of a big scam or may be she really have a sick mother who need money? whatever it is i am no part of sponsering her.

johnny; we did not [CodeWord123] her, she only gave all my assistants a bj each for free, and i did paid her for her service but only at the agreed price and nothing more. the only thing that she had not planned was that she have to give 4 free bj in payment for "playing the joke" on trying to extort me for hk$5000 by crying [CodeWord123].

ag

[Steve Naive]

In his posting a few days ago, Sinnatic discussed drink prices.

Just to add to the information: my lady last night told me she gets a HKD40 commission at Fenwicks, on drinks that customers buy for her. Thus buying her a drink is like giving a tip.

[Tiger 888]

Although I found a useful list of bars (see http://www.InternationalSexGuide.inf...d.php?p=481158) it does not say where they are beyond "in Wanchai," and it wasn't obvious as I walked around without a map.

Steve, If you had checked out the Hongkong Maps thread you would have found all the infos you needed:
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=398108

[Steve Naive]

I decided to try my luck at the real bars - NOT the model dancer places on Lockhart Road - in Wanchai. I'm 50+, a bit chubby, and balding, otherwise average-looking. Since I cannot rely on good looks, I use other means.

(updated) Although I found a useful list of bars, I did not have a map, because I had not read the Hong Kong Maps thread. What I needed was right here had I looked.

I've been to New Makati before, so I started there. At 11pm there were some girls there, but any that I was interested in wasn't picking up on me. One cutie who smiled when I came in chatted a bit then stopped talking to me, so I left. Hard to talk in there anyway.

Walking around Lockhart Rd, I didn't spot any clubs on my short list. On a cross street I found Dreams II and decided to give that a shot. 15 Philipine girls, about eight of them sitting around a table. After looking around, I accepted their invitation to join them. It didn't go anywhere - maybe I should have bought them a round of drinks to be more popular. The other problem is that the lady I was talking to suddenly lit a cigarette - which to me is almost as bad as discovering she's a he. I don't like licking ashtrays. When I moved to another spot on the table, I wasn't as well received. And I learned that they all smoked.

Looking around again, I noticed a lady sitting solo at the bar, who I had not really noticed before. Pretty, nice shape, about the right age. I sat down. She's intelligent, articulate. I make hints about later this evening but she does not respond. Later she asks me why do you want to be with me? I told her the things I have written above. She didn't appear to respond, but when I suggested we go somewhere else to dance, she agreed.

She knows her way around. She showed me where Neptune II is. That will be my choice for looking next time - many more girls than the first two places. We dance, I buy her a drink. Too noisy to talk. Somewhere we can talk? She lead me to another club, I bought another round.

She's cautious. Wants to know if she can trust me. I appear to be giving the right answers because she is ready to go to the hotel... but not to talk about money, just like every other Filipina I have ever been with. Near my hotel she told me her price - HKD 1500, and firm. Much more than I expected to pay, but I expected to have a good time with her.

And we had it. Wonderful GFE, she was happy to take plenty of time. There's a cushioned seat on the window overlooking HK, and I entertained her with DATY above the city lights (after inspecting and smelling her, and afterwards went to bathroom for mouthwash, which might help somewhat). More GFE in the morning.

BTW she's heading back to PI soon, so no point in asking for contact info. She is not an HK regular, she says.

In my experience, the most reliable way to get GFE is to give BFE. For some ladies, BFE means taking her shopping, for others it is respect, being nice, not moving too fast, and pleasuring her.

Yes, it cost more than I wanted to spend. OTOH if I total the amount of time we had with foreplay and lovemaking, the cost/time ratio was better than in the yellow sign place my first night, and it infinitely more satisfying. And the nice times in the bars, dancing, sleeping together, and talking, all came for free.

I saw a Chinese guy walking around HK wearing a shirt that says "I SCORED LAST NIGHT." I wonder if that shirt helps him in come way.

[Pointpanic]

Our group of three will be in Kimberly Hotel. Can't wait to try the 141 action. Have read that there are some good bars in TST area, including New Paris. Anyone have some other places in TST area?

Thanks

[Drjoker69]

ag,

i laughed my ass off on this one! actually, you were a bit more gentle on her than some other guys would've been. some guys probably would've dp'ed her. some guys would've paid her the extra 6000 hkd, but she would've earned it good. they figure, if you want the 6000 hkd so bad, then you can have it, but ya gotta earn it. hey, if she goes scrambling to the cops, you can always point to the extra dough you gave her willing, greedy ass.

as for the other poster's accusation of [CodeWord123], hey, she agreed to do it and she got paid for it, so i hardly think that this is [CodeWord123]. the way i see it, you're giving her a lot better treatment than what she threatened you with, so, hey, wtf. 4 blow jobs for your 4 assistants is a nice "joke", too, if you ask me. almost as good as her "joke" on you.

the white knights may whine about this one by crying "[CodeWord123]", but i think that she got her just desserts. now, if you had "hurt" her without paying the extra 6000 hkd, then i would frown upon you. but you didn't. you just played a little joke on her, so all's fun and games.

you've got my applause,
drjoker.

p.s. remeber, they're prostitutes. if the price is right, they'll do anything willingly. remember, if they do it willingly, it is not [CodeWord123], nor abuse. got it?!

so, lighten up and have some fun ;0)

i told them, they should [CodeWord123] her to death and than throw her into the sea. the girl plead for forgiveness saying that she is just playing a joke on me. we told her that we will forgive her and let her off if she does bj for all my “assistants” in which she actually agreed and did the job. my “assistants” escorted her out of the hotel after that. there was no big mafias or no big guys waiting to help her. ag

[Steve Naive]

I haven't been here in a couple of years. I remember fondly last time I was here, two nights in a yellow-sign walkup in Mongkok with a Thai girl who dug me far more than usual, and apologized for stopping briefly when she came - something that rarely happens in my experience.

I started by looking into some of the bars on Lockhart, and having a drink in San Francisco (the Philippine side) just before 8pm. Here's a case where I really shoulda RTFF instead of going in blind (read this), because my drink was expensive at HKD20, but hers was outrageous at HKD220. For the sum, plus 10% service on top, she teased me a bit - for less than 15 minutes, when it was her time to dance, only she wasn't dancing either. For that much I could have had FS in a yellow sign place in Mongkok! I asked mama about rates. HKD1400 for 1-hour ST, HKD4000 lets me take her back to my hotel. Get REAL, this isn't USA! Clearly the game here is mainly to get unsuspecting newbies to come in and get suckered into buying a lady drink. I'm starting to learn that if the joint is near empty, you should leave it that way.

Wandering around a bit, three worn/chubby Filipinas rating rating 1-3 asked me "where you going?" A bit of conversation, they are proposing all three together in my hotel. What about one of you? HKD1000. Thanks anyway. Ok, HKD800. No thanks. HKD500 is final offer. Not interested. According to the HK FL Guide the final price was good, but the ladies were sub-par, and I just had my fill of Filipinas in Makati earlier this week.

I headed back to my Mongkok hotel to take a break, then headed to a yellow-sign place on Portland between Argyle and Fife around 10:30pm. Though the sign said 250, they wanted 360. That's ok: seems 250 is for 30 minutes, 360 for 45 minutes and I like more time. Thai girl? They didn't understand at first. Eventually they did, only have Chinese. Thanks anyway, and headed down the stairs.

Meanwhile a rather pretty Chinese lady is walking up. Eye contact, smile, my finger points at her and me, she smiles and nods. The two men smile as I re-enter their place. Language is less important than smiles and creative use of hands.

Her face is at least a 7, body about the same and she's maybe 25 and PRC. The service was a bit incomplete - I thought there might be AR as a warmup, but there was not even BBBJ, and very little kissing. Then again she had an intermittent cough down deep so I thought it was just as well. She spent a minute or two studying the magic fireman, frowning as she looked at his circumcised head. Don't know what she thought, but as far as I can tell he's healthy, just not as Chinese as the ones she usually sees? That may be why I didn't get bbbj (a little CBJ, which does nothing for me).

But I require more warmup, and didn't get it, so no pop. She tried with her hand, but was a bit unskilled - hand too low, she's pulling on those strings that connect to the balls, and it aches when she shakes. I could not get her to do it right, so I cut my losses. She certainly tried; I have off nights sometimes. A younger man would have had no problem with this nice lady.

[Sinnatic]

I am sorry to hear what happened to you. I have never called an "escort" from these magazines, but I did call girls listed as "hotel reservations" from ******.com. Lucky enough the girls I have had so far are straight to business and they are all from mainland china who would be more worry about me reporting to the police.

Hope you find better luck next time.

Hi guys,

I just want tell my recent story happened at Hong Kong which you must pre-caution if you want to find the call girls from the escort agents which advertise on 2-3 local adult magazines saying HKD500 for 3 hours outcall to all major hotels.

I was in Hong Kong last week for business last week and on the night before I leave, I feel so honry at the hotel but I don't want to go outside since the days I stay are so hot and humid; therefore, I dig out the escort agent phone number from the adult magazines which I brought then I call the number and reconfirm the charge of $500 with the mamasan who pick up my call. To make the story short, the call girl (+/- 25 yrs old, average body & look) came into my room then ask for the money up front, I think it's ok and paid $500 plus tip $100.

After the services for around 30 mins of SOG, the girl immediate go to shower and she made a phone call to her agent who ask me to pay for $6000.00 or otherwise, he warn me that I'll be in trouble as this girl he hire is from a high class night club and he has couple of guys at the hotel is waiting for her and if I refuse to pay for it, those guys will come into my room.

Frankly speaking, I'm a business man and even I'm not willing to pay to her but I really don't want to get into trouble specially during business trip, thus, I paid the money to the girl then she run away immediately.

I just want to tell that it is my true story happened last week and want to remind you all to pre-caution those escort agents at Hong Kong.

[Superforce99]

hey ag,

where did you find the escort? was she chinese? and did i read right
that you and your assistants raped her??


j

i am surprised that such a thing still happens. are we talking about this agency named "movie stars secrets" ?

i'll like to share true a story which happened to me:

i was in hk 5 years ago and hired their escort. the same thing happened to me in which the girl asked me to pay hk$5000. i told her that i do not have the amount of cash but can get my assistant to bring the money. she agreed and i pick up the phone, called my "assistants" (who are staying next couple of rooms); told them what happened (in japanese language - which i figured that the girl does not understand). within seconds, all my 4 "assistants" knock at my door which i opened. they rush in and held her down. one of them told her in cantonese that she must have guts to play this trick on me. she better open her eyes to see who she is dealing with.

having said that; he than asked me what shall they do to her. i told them, they should [CodeWord123] her to death and than throw her into the sea. the girl plead for forgiveness saying that she is just playing a joke on me. we told her that we will forgive her and let her off if she does bj for all my “assistants” in which she actually agreed and did the job. my “assistants” escorted her out of the hotel after that. there was no big mafias or no big guys waiting to help her.

after this lesson learnt, i never called for escort services in hong kong not because i am afraid that i have to deal with mafias, but mainly because it totally kills the mood. i was lucky to travel with my “staff” at that time. but i am aware that not everybody is as lucky as me to travel with friends or staff. so having said so; stay away from outcalls escort service.

but as what rick hunter said; it is unlikely that mafias will want such attention. besides all this just for hk$6000? the mafias are not interested in such small amount of money. they are interested if the deal is multi-million dollars such as dealing in drugs!

so, having said that, i believed 100% in what “loseapenny” said. such things happen. but important is to keep your cool and think of the best solution.

keep cool and stay safe.
ag

[Sanshiro]

If you read these posts you will quickly realise the HK is so user friendly that there is really no reason to use an escort agency. Just go to Wanchai and pick up a girl. Its cheaper, safer, you get what u see and its GFE.

BTW, I don't think this kind of shakedown would occur in one of the five star hotels.

[Ruf66]

I had the same issue a few years ago -where I had paid the girl but suddenly on the phone a guy said if I did not pay 5000 I would be in trouble. I said fine - and I will call 999 - and suddenly the problem went away. Actually got a free shag as the girl got so scared she gave me my money back.

So just remember - HK lives off the guests not the people who visit and shag!!

[Ace Gallant]

hi guys,

i just want tell my recent story happened at hong kong which you must pre-caution if you want to find the call girls from the escort agents which advertise on 2-3 local adult magazines saying hkd500 for 3 hours outcall to all major hotels.

i was in hong kong last week for business last week and on the night before i leave, i feel so honry at the hotel but i don't want to go outside since the days i stay are so hot and humid; therefore, i dig out the escort agent phone number from the adult magazines which i brought then i call the number and reconfirm the charge of $500 with the mamasan who pick up my call. to make the story short, the call girl (+/- 25 yrs old, average body & look) came into my room then ask for the money up front, i think it's ok and paid $500 plus tip $100.

after the services for around 30 mins of sog, the girl immediate go to shower and she made a phone call to her agent who ask me to pay for $6000.00 or otherwise, he warn me that i'll be in trouble as this girl he hire is from a high class night club and he has couple of guys at the hotel is waiting for her and if i refuse to pay for it, those guys will come into my room.

frankly speaking, i'm a business man and even i'm not willing to pay to her but i really don't want to get into trouble specially during business trip, thus, i paid the money to the girl then she run away immediately.

i just want to tell that it is my true story happened last week and want to remind you all to pre-caution those escort agents at hong kong.

i am surprised that such a thing still happens. are we talking about this agency named "movie stars secrets" ?

i'll like to share true a story which happened to me:

i was in hk 5 years ago and hired their escort. the same thing happened to me in which the girl asked me to pay hk$5000. i told her that i do not have the amount of cash but can get my assistant to bring the money. she agreed and i pick up the phone, called my "assistants" (who are staying next couple of rooms); told them what happened (in japanese language - which i figured that the girl does not understand). within seconds, all my 4 "assistants" knock at my door which i opened. they rush in and held her down. one of them told her in cantonese that she must have guts to play this trick on me. she better open her eyes to see who she is dealing with.

having said that; he than asked me what shall they do to her. i told them, they should [CodeWord123] her to death and than throw her into the sea. the girl plead for forgiveness saying that she is just playing a joke on me. we told her that we will forgive her and let her off if she does bj for all my “assistants” in which she actually agreed and did the job. my “assistants” escorted her out of the hotel after that. there was no big mafias or no big guys waiting to help her.

after this lesson learnt, i never called for escort services in hong kong not because i am afraid that i have to deal with mafias, but mainly because it totally kills the mood. i was lucky to travel with my “staff” at that time. but i am aware that not everybody is as lucky as me to travel with friends or staff. so having said so; stay away from outcalls escort service.

but as what rick hunter said; it is unlikely that mafias will want such attention. besides all this just for hk$6000? the mafias are not interested in such small amount of money. they are interested if the deal is multi-million dollars such as dealing in drugs!

so, having said that, i believed 100% in what “loseapenny” said. such things happen. but important is to keep your cool and think of the best solution.

keep cool and stay safe.
ag