Monterrey - Mastermind's Reports

[Mastermind]

You have misunderstood me I think. Of course the strip clubs with dozens of girls are going to have the more ample selection than the MPs with less then ten girls. The thing I was saying was that it wasn't worth the price paid at the strip clubs for FS when I could get the same service (with even raunchier and more adventerous, but still attractive girls) at 1/3 the price and with 1/10 the time involved. While some of strip club girls were beautiful, the prices and the nickel and diming of the clients made for service that was way to expensive when compared to what I saw available at the MPs, where you just popped in and if you saw a chicas that you likes, you'd go back to the room and have at it. The strip clubs in Monterrey just didn't impress me and things if you let them would get way out of hand with the amount spent at the end of the night. I'm not cheap, but I refuse to be taken in for a sucker. Based on my experiences in Monterrey I was continuously more satisfied with my MP experiences than with my experiences at the strip clubs. Now, don't take me wrong the strip clubs were ok sometimes, but they are what they are everywhere- places where tourists come to empty their wallets for the chance to have sex with a stripper. In that respect Monterrey is no different than anywhere else in Mexico. However, the vast number of MPs is what makes Monterrey different and comparatiely cheap.

Thank you for reminding me that Prok had written that, and I most definitely will check it. And, of course, there is also the report that Mastermind just posted...I'll refer to that too. And then, there is El Sol, which is hit and miss due to the shear numbers of MPs advertising there...you never really know which of those adds holds a lot of promise.

But, with respect to my asking the intial logistical question, I figured I would demonstrate my open mindedness at asking for information from whomever might wish to contribute, just in order to demonstrate that I am NOT opposed to hearing about the MPs, nor do I want to be accused of promoting the club circuit only...I have taken the criticism to heart. I am in fact open to reading all points of view.

The only issue I took up with Mastermind was the selection comparison, and that is where my skepticism lies. That is going to be the basis of my research. But, I am not opposed to assessing the MP experience as a whole either. But, I am going to focus on the quality of selection issue.

I may be under the mistaken impression that the MP experience is not going to be satisfying to me based on my past experiences. But, that doesn't mean that I fault anyone for enjoying the MPs.

I am sincerely providing an opportunity, for those that may have possibly felt constrained by my former postings about the strip clubs, to insert something on the MPs within the MTY thead. I know guys think I am just baiting them, but I am simply trying to be concilliatory, welcoming a full range of commentary.

I may not have in the past been able to offer recommendations on things that have been beyond my range of routine experience in MTY (MPs), and I apologize, but I can't report on a venue I don't frequent. I do not fault those who wish to use the MPs and like to post their experiences about them.

Porker is one of my best friends from this board, and he used to post a shit load of stuff on the MPs. I have literally traveled the mongering world with Porker. He frequents the MPs in MTY, but not by choice necessarily. Certainly, his habits do not resemble an MP kind of existence when he's in the PI or Indonesia...but, he speaks favorably about the MPs in Monterrey because it's the only food on the buffet due to his circumstances. But, either way, circumstances or not, it's back to the steak thing...like Wasted said.

Where I suspect I will verify my disagreement with Mastermind is over the quality of selection issue, comparing MP selection to strip club selection. But, if I find that is not the case, I will be the first one to say I was WRONG, and apologize to him publicly here in the forum. But, it remains to be determined. However, I am not afraid to tell Mastermind I was dead wrong. What have I go to lose?

I know I am perceived as being disengenuous with respect to my research on the MPs, but Mastermind's post made me stop to think how I had not really visited an MP in a long time. Fact is, I have been contemplating a revist and assessment of them for quite some time, just for a change of pace. But, because you guys do not know me personally, you are assuming I am insincere. I truly am intending to make a non-biased evalutation, and the amigos on here that know me personally, know that I am totally for real.

Look, if I reported back with bias, it doesn't serve me or anyone else. I must admit, that because I enjoy the GFEs more, I am skeptical that I will personally find the MPs to be satisfactory at this point in my life. But, I am open to trying them out again, hoping actually that I do find some alternatives, if not for enjoyment sake then certainly for savings sake.

If I find that I don't like them, or that they turn me off, I will still report it as such, and why. But, on the other hand, if I find that I am satisfied with one or more of those experiences, then I PROMISE to report it truthfully. I am intrinsically skeptical, but open minded, willing to change my mind. The proof is in the pudding.

My amigos all know me well, all telling me that I am going to dislike them,....because they know me. But, all this is subjective. If you like MPs that's fine, and I welcome all of your comments on them.

But, now, especially after having completed my own research, research which I intend to carry our during the course of several subsequent visits, just so I can be certain of the validity of my conclusions, I will have a first hand perspective on the validity of most reports that come in here with respect to the MPs.

Up to now, I can't really refute or confirm my conclusions about selection or anything else because it's all based on past assessments.

So, I apologize to Mastermind for jumping to conclusions about his assessments over the quality of selection...I was premature.

I will make that right next week, and continue the assessment for several subsequent trips, just to be fair in making any future commentary, good or bad.

I do believe the effort to canvas the lower and medium level MPs will be significantly more tiring than sitting in a lower level strip club like El Infinito, where 40-60 girls are sometimes working. One would have to canvas many MPs to find that kind of overall selection. But, I am eating my Wheaties...:-) Popping my Viagra in advance....:-)

[Mastermind]

Ya' know...things are becoming abundantly clear...What better way to pave the way for profitability oriented commentary by Monterrey entrepreneurs than by attempting to discredit, and hopefully remove, guys that have over 500 posts each, and considerable experience on the ground in MTY.

You really need to get over yourself.

A good strategy might be to create discontent with the administration of the board, and post bogus reports and recommendations that directly dispute years of former postings about the MTY venue, instead suggesting that newbie visitors patronize the more expensive clubs and massage parlors, and to suggest that the lesser expensive strip clubs are all dives full of ugly pigs, and that the low to medium level massage parlors are somehow miraculously better with respect to selection than clubs full of professional hard bodied strippers.

Another good strategy would be to discredit the MPs and do your best to direct all incoming Monterrey mongers to two or three of your "preffered" strip clubs. Before this became all about Carlos and Spongebob, a long time and many many pages ago, there were many reports about the MPs in Monterrey. Now, thanks to two hijackers all dissenting viewpoints have been squashed. This thread is now only about strip clubs and political discussions. Evryone else has been eliminated and negated by the resident "experts" in getting fleeced by PROFESSIONAL STRIPPERS.

Right!!! The low and medium level massage parlor girls, girls that make 200 pesos as their cut for F/S, are far superior in quality to professional strippers earning five to ten times that amount for the same span of time.

So are you saying that more expensive means better service? That's an interesting viewpoint and its a good explanation of why prices get jacked up all over the world when Americans find their way to a certain venue. So I guess the Mexico City strippers are better than the Monterrey strippers because they make more money? Or how about the lousy French hookers? they make a fortune and have the most ridiculous prices so they must be the best providers? Makes no sense, sparky.

[Mastermind]

I stand by what I wrote and it was my opinion and an opinion only based on my six days in monterrey. I have nothing to gain or lose by posting here and now I think maybe it wasn't even worth the headache to post on the International Sex Guide. My intention is not to provoke but:

The strip clubs are "just" strip clubs, nothing spectacular. Just girls dancing and trying to swindle you out of your money, nothing new here and nothing special overall. I am not a new monger. I have been mongering since i was in the service in the early 80's and I have been to SEA, Europe, Africa and all over the Americas. I abandoned the strip clubs in Monterrey because I refuse to get fleeced by anyone anymore. Idon't know how much experience the people here have with mexican strip clubs in other mexican cities, but as a veteran salesman I have tons and can say that aside from the number of strip clubs, Monterrey is nothing out of the ordinary when compared to other Mexican venues.

The massage parlors are cheap and there was always at least one or two cuties around for me to chose. Yes, there were piggies, but there were also piggies at the strip clubs. I have very high standards and if the MP girls were good enough for me, they'd be good enough for almost anyone. I did mention that I went to other MPs besides Faraonas and Signore and Misses. These places didn't impress me and I left for greener pastures. But overall my best experiences in Monterrey were with the MP girls.

I get the feeling that Carlos doesn't even really read anybody else's posts here becasue he had no idea what I really wrote. I think he just skims the posts to look for things to correct and ways to direct people to the strip clubs. Spongebob is just gullible and follows along in attacking anybody that Carlos attacks. If they like to pay up the arse for what you can get for 1/4 the price, then that is great. Just stop trying to attack those of us who don't want to be fleeced. They may like the ego trip of being recognized by a hooker at a strip club, but I don't care about all that. I just want to have sex with a cutie and not have pay up the arse.

Again, I had no intention of contradicting anyone or attacing anyone. I was just stating my experiences. The MPs are the way to go if you want to have a good time in Monterrey. There are so many MPs that you will find a great chica and save a great deal of money in the process. For the price of one salida with a PROFESSIONAL STRIPPER, you can have 4 sessions with a cute local MP girl. And let me just say that what I saw at the Infinito and cielo was not all that much better than what I saw at the Mps.

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[Mastermind]

Ok, just got back from my 6 day trip to Monterrey. Overall, I was happy with my experiences there but I was disapointed with a few things.

First night: I got into Monterrey late because of flight details. I was so tired after hotel check-in, but I decided to try and salvage at least one pop for my first night. I went per recommendations on the board to El Infinito. I was a tad disaponited with the selection of chicas. Many were nice, a few were hot and many were fat and/or ugly. The bad things was that the hot ones and the decent ones had swarms of men around them and it was nearly impossible to get their attention. Many fugly ones gave me the eye, but none were even worth considering. So I spent my first night in Monterrey at a dive club trying to get some decent girl to give me some attention. One of the bartender guys brought me over a decent girl but she was distracted and only willing to sit with me for a few minutes before guzzling her drink and leaving like the wind after I hesitated in buying her another. I went back to the hotel to sleep my horniness away. Summary of my first night: Frustrating and about 300 pesos spent to be frustrated.

Second day: After doing some work stuff I went on the prowl in the early afternoon. I decided to try my luck at the massage parlors. I went to Signore on Villagomez. Inside I saw 4 girls total, 2 worth doing. I picked a short brunette names Alexa. Service was very good overall. 300 pesos for FS and 100 pesos more for BBBJCIM. Well, it was more like BBBJC on the side of mouth as she pulled away at the last minute. Still very good.

In the night I went back to Infinito to give it another try. Maybe I was just jetlagged from the night before and feeling frustrated. I had a slightly better experience, but still wasn't overly impressed with the quality of chicas. I had FS with a lovely flaquita in the privadas. 400 pesos plus 50 pesos per song . I was upset that my girl spent the first song talking to me and half of the second dancing out of hands reach. When we started the FS we were already well into the second song. Total cost of the FS in the very uncomfortable privada area: 400+ 5 songs= 650 pesos. Add in two drinks for my chica and my beer and I spent almost 900 pesos (plus the tips I was asked for from almost everybody). Still I got laid and left happy.

Afterwards, I left for the other clubs in the area. I went to Matehuela and El Cielo. I ws intrigued by Cielo as something that might be good, but I didn't have any chicas in either place. I just had a beer and went back to my hotel. Truth is I didn't find anything to my liking.

Third day: I decided to search out more massage parlors after having the good experience at Signore. I went to Faraonas (sp?) . Very impressed with one of the girls there. She was almost dangerously young but I was assured she was of age. Her name was Ana and a very cute morena with some strecth marks on her belly, but all in all very attractive. Got FS for 200. I tried to get other acts from her but she was only into basic service. Good, though.

At night I did a grand tour of the other strip clubs in Monterrey. I went to Pasarelas, Poisson, Harem and another nearby Harem that I can;t recall. I spent a short while in each and they were nice and the chicas were better than at Infinito and Cielo, but the prices were obscene and I just felt I was getting hustled. I left for the night at about 3am without getting any service from a chica.

Fourth Day: Had to work all day and didn't have time to explore.

Fifth Day. I went around back to the massage parlors Faraonas and Signore and got a FS from each over the course of 4 hours. Set me back a total of 500 pesos when the other night I had spent about 1000 pesos just going from club to club and not getting laid once.

Sixth and last full Day: With the savings from not getting fleeced again at the strip clubs, I decided to splurge and go to Misses. I was floored with just how cute all the girls were. And then I was floored by the cost. Doing the math in my head, 250 for the massage and 2000 for the girl, I would be out 2,250 for FS. I said what the heck and took my savings from not going to the strip clubs and chose a hot guera named Alejandra. Her service was great and just having that hard, young body next to me made me almost go crazy.

After a nice meal, I went back to Signore to see what was available. It was late so the selections wasn't great, but I chose a short and chubby girl with a cute face. 300 pesos for the half hour and 100 extra for a tittie fuck to orgasm.

Very late, near closing time I went back to Infinito to try for one last pop before going back to the states. I found a flaquita with a gorgeous body, but a Mr. Ed Face. After one chica drink we agreed to go back to the privadas for a BJ. She insisted on condom but we came to an arrangement. I offered her an extra 200 pesos to let me shoot near her without a condom. I have to admit I cheated a little and overshot my mark, squirting her on the cheek and earlobe. Ooops hehe. Not bad for an old man. All in all it cost me 550 with songs included.

My last day was by far my best.

Summary:

Monterrey is a pretty decent city for mongering but hardly the paradise the so many reports here would suggest. The strip clubs were just ok, about what you would expect from any strip club in a mexican city.

I think the strip club scene in Monterrey is very deceptive because on the surface the prices seem a lot cheaper, but man oh man do they try to nickel and dime you to death! At the end of the night you spend more money this way than if you went to clip joint in Mexico City. The whole sex in the privados thing is a real scam in that the meter is running all the while your girl tries to drag out the FS or BJ. At the end of the screw you end up paying more than you would pay at most other strip clubs in Mexico for comparable service. However if money is no object and you want to listen to music and watch girls,by all means go to the strip clubs. As for me, I can take them or leave them.

The real thing for Monterrey to brag about is the massage parlor scene. Good prices and good service are very available at the MPs, but you will have to wade through some ugly porkies before finding your princess. I had gone to quite a few other MPs that weren't even good enough to make me recall their names, but Signore and Faraonas provided pretty chicas who gave good service at a very good price. I know massage girls come and go, but I can't see the quality falling that badly to the point of not being worth a visit. Misses was very expensive but the girls were HOT.

I think that its a bit of a disservice to the readers here to steer everybody away from the MPs and into the strip clubs because what really makes the city a worthwhile mongering destinations is the availability of good sex at a low price at the Mps. The strip clubs are decent, but not great- I have seen better clubs at more reasonable prices in other Mexican venues. Maybe Im bitter about being nickel and dimed to death by the girls or maybe I'm still reeling from the 3000 peso for the girl and 1000 pesos for the house salida I was "offered" at Poisson. Whatever the case, to not go to the MPs in Monterrey would be a mistake when you come to visit.

I know, personally what may make me come back to Monterrey will be the massage girls and not "just another Mexican strip club."

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[Mastermind]

Carlos,

I will be staying at the Best Western on Juarez. I've heard about the PDA, but for business reasons I have to stay at the Best Western. I don't think its too important because I prefer not to have salidas and take care of my business on-site. I suppose that if Iwant to order take out, there are plenty of motels de paso in the area?

as for my preferences, I prefer to go where the action is plentiful and the prices aren;t crazy so I really have no preferences- just, I stay away from street girls.

I have about 25 years experience mongering in SEA and Mexico, in Tijuana, Mexico City and a couple of other places. What differences can I expect when I get to Monterrey?

Looking forward to defrocking some of the beautiful regias next week.

Ask you questions sir... that's why we are here.

Am not kidding.

Am local, Wasted will be here for the weekend (his umphteen trip) and USB will vist Monterrey at the end of the month.

Business as usual.

Tell us where you will be staying (so you can know if you hotel is girl friendly) and what are your preferences.... MPs, SC (although SC are my forté I can help you out with MPs).

[Mastermind]

Hi. Now that Bob has his own thread, will there be some actual trip reports about finding hot Regias in this thread? I will be going to Monterrey next week and look forward to postig a nice, long report. And yes, all the long posts were actually discourageing me from making a post here.

Ding Dong the witch is dead?

[Mastermind]

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