2005 Monterrey Reports

[Prokofiev]

My final thoughts are about as deep as Jerry Springers, but . . .

Monterrey is one of the best, if not THE best chica destinations in Mexico. So many clubs and esteticas in a relatively small area. Something for everyone and at prices that make you shake your head.

As far as the strip clubs go, I could find no correlation between price and quality. Matehuala was both the cheapest and had the most attractive girls. High end clubs like Prestige had much higher prices (100 peso cover) but girls no more attractive. Maybe less. You can do a club for $2 to $3 US per drink. No tipping. Touching free - if you can reach her! This makes it very attractive for the working class Mexican guy to kill an hour or two with some beers. Downside is it can be crowded, with very loud music and very low light levels on the stages. I had to leave Matehuala on Thursday nite because the music level was giving me a headache. Privados are 50p per song (3-4 min) at virtually all the clubs. Often there are 3 privados for 100p deals. The privado areas are very dark and have lots of Kleenex on the floor! No easy wash up. And not very comfortable for anything but a lap dance. Usually in a large open area, but that is not much of a problem since they are too dark to see the other couples screwing.

The esteticas are cheaper and more comfortable with a wider range of quality - mostly to the downside. A half hour doesn't sound like enough time, but the clock doesn't start until the service begins and there is no "massage" involved so it can be a pure 30 min of sex. Often located near clubs, you can go and watch the strippers first and then spend $10-$20 US for full service at a MP for a very inexpensive night out. But if you are picky, you will have to visit several places to find an acceptable chica.

I didn't take out any girls for a salida. If price is no object this could be your best option. But with a few drinks and a couple privados and then $1350 pesos plus cabfare you are looking at $125-$175 US. And seeing several reports of poor service, I would always take a privado with the girl first. Some will not leave. Others have only done it several times.

BTW, there is a website for Misses that has lots of data on their girls and pictures of the rooms. Check it out. Expensive place, but I saw some nice talent there.

www.misses.com.mx

As others have reported, I felt 100% safe in Monterrey. No problems at all, day or night. But the most dangerous thing is the traffic! Some streets are nearly impossible to cross on foot. And I have been hit twice in the last 5 years as a pedestrian . . . both times on the sidewalk!! Con cuidado!

Finally, thanks to Carlos for hotel info and his maps. All great info and of tremendous value for the first timer. This board is lucky to have him . . .

Good luck to Firebird on his upcoming trip . . .

Hasta muy pronto, - Prokofiev

[Firebird]

Prokofiev, that is an EXCELLENT report. You sure did lot of "research" during your stay

[Prokofiev]

Here is an overview of the massage parlors I saw during my 5 nights in Monterrey. Overall, the quality of chicas in the clubs tends to be far superior, but if you look hard enough you can find some MP gems for very little money. Of course the girls change often, so the addresses may be of more value than my experiences with seeing the various chicas.

Everyplace includes a shower/sink, a padded massage table, a clean sheet and 1-2 towels. Standard offering is for 1/2 hr including CBJ and 3 positions. No massage is offered! Some have more as noted below:

Scarlet - Av Colon #1715A Pte / Blue neon across from Holiday Inn
A rather tough looking place. 3 gordas huddled under a blanket. No heat?
100 pesos. I only looked.

Fascination - Zaragoza #1165 Ote near Colon
Quoted 170 pesos 1/2 hr. 2 gordas. I passed.

Shakira - 1508 Reforma Pte near Holiday Inn / neon lights near KanKun
Very basic MP. 150p 1/2 hr. 3 girls. I took Ana - a 36 yo woman - probably older. Not a looker, but very good service. She seemed very real, with a big smile and good attitude. CBJ + 2 positions + finish in mouth-covered. OK.

Milenio 2000 - Villagran #613 Pte near Givenchy.
Basic MP, but with 7 rooms and 10-12 chicas to choose from. When you enter, you see the girls sitting along a mirrored make-up table, sort of like back stage at a theater. 150p 1/2 hr, but up-selling to 250p. The girls were reasonably attractive with many to choose from. Took Andrea 28, who promised a slow, unrushed experience, but did not deliver on her promise. Upselling for taking off top and extra position. Paid 250 total. Still not terrible for what I received. CBJ + 3 positions. Finished CBJ w/ ball-licking. Just OK.

Status I - Padre Mier #836 Pte
Another basic MP. I was expecting more here, but didn't see any really attractive girls. 7 available. 200 pesos for 1/2 hr. It was afternoon and I didn't partake.

Faraonas I - Arteaga #2018 Pte, west of Holiday Inn.
Off the beaten track, near Prestige Club. 180p 1/2 hr. Stopped in twice, but each time all girls (2?) were busy. Never saw a chica. Good sign??

Duality - Arteaga #716 Pte
2 huge girls offered service for just 100p. This is the only estetica I saw that had barber chairs in the front room. Closes at 10pm. I passed.

Playboy3 (Massage,B ano y Mas) - Arteaga #1015 Pte around the corner from Faraonas II.
Several girls available (3?) for 130p 1/2 hr. Took Samatha 24. Not bad looking, but no personality, no smile. Didn't take her top off. I asked for CBJ only and she tried to up-sell to 200p. I refused and told her to get on top. She then agreed to finish via CBJCIM for the 130p. Bad attitude.

My best experiences were at these two.

Faraonas II - Juan Alverez near Arteaga/ only several blocks fr Matehuala.
Very basic MP, but with 2 young, attractive chicas. Another working. Took Fatima 20 as described in a previous post. Excellent service. Cute little girl. 160 pesos. Great time.

Euforia - Escobedo #721 near Carlos Salazar
Another basic MP but the Senora handling the door (Adriana-40?) and the two cute, very young-looking chicas were a ton of fun. Lots of playful joking around by all. Tried to take the Senora, but she wasn't on the menu. Had Dulce (Monseratt) 23 who provided excellent service. The room has a large mirror and this girl loves to watch herself sucking and fucking. Gives good "face" and eye contact. A naughty girl. CBJ + 3 positions. 200 pesos. My best experience.

Here are several others that were "different" and might be of interest:

Spa-cio - Carlos Salazar #924 / upstairs
This is a new place and supposedly a new concept. It is a semi-Sports bar with drinks and TVs along with a spa, with steam room and jacuzzi. New rooms looked nice. A cut above the other places. Only 180p to 280p, depending on the service (steam or jacuzzi or basic room)

Romanos - Tapia #862 corner Arista
This place advertises "fresitas 18-21". I saw 2 young attractive girls there, but they were both going to rooms with customers. Plus there were 2 other guys ahead of me. Price 400p 1/2 hr or 800p for some other (hour?) deal. I did not stay, but it would be worth a look even at the higher price.

Misses - Tapia #654 Pte near Rayon / 2nd floor of a house/ No sign
This place advertises "realmente fresitas y super-modelos. It is upstairs in a 4-plex house with only a tiny sign on the door. Would never know it from street level. They had 4 chicas. A blond model-type (near 30?) that I immediately wanted and 3 very young-looking, slender girls (teenagers?). I saw a room that had a king-size bed and full bath. I was quoted 300p for a massage and I quickly asked for the blond. BUT . . . I quickly realized it was 300p for massage only. Full service was 2000 pesos!! I started to leave, but the guy running the place tried to talk me into staying. Wanted to know how I found the place. He offered me a 1000p price (I think . . .) but I only had about 800 with me. Decided to leave, but I liked the eye candy. Nice merchandise. High price.

Enough for now. This should be a good start for anyone looking for an estetica experience. The upside is that you can lay down and actually talk and see the girls. Also towels and showers for clean-up. And it winds up being significantly cheaper and more comfortable than privado sex at a club. Downside? You need to look hard to find the gems. 70% of the girls are 2nd and 3rd tier. Some are extremely unattractive. Very hit and miss.
Luego - Prokofiev

[MonterreyDude]

Well, the guys that have stayed at the Sheraton have never had any problems getting girls up to their rooms... but that is in a general way of speaking.
I meant that they only took one for one night. Never had a chance of asking if they took diffrent girls on diffrent nights.

By the way, the other hotels in the same district that are more or less girl friendly are the HoJo and the Santa Rosa Suites, all in the same area of the park one block away to the East of the Sheraton.
I know as a fact from some guys that came in and stayed at the SRS, that they took a very intresting amount of diffrent girls to their rooms and the only thing they had to do was give the floor man a small tip (the SRS is first class but small and operates like a Staybrige Suites hotel or a Drury Suites motel... only one person at night).

You're saying I simply register as a double when I check in at the Sheraton, then if I bring back a girl she'll be allowed to enter? What if I have girl "A" on night one, girl "B" on night two. Any issues then? Or are you saying that even if I do that she still won't make it past the gestapo?

Thanks for your help.

[Prokofiev]

I have visited many more clubs and massage parlors/ esteticas here. Went to Givenchy and bought a drink for a cute, 19 yo chica , muy flaca in order to practice my Spanish. Very sweet and a good talker. Tried to meet her after her shift, but she said it was against the rules. Probably just an excuse. Not sure. Also visited TVO and several of the bars near it. Pretty much the same set-up everywhere. TVO does have a rather interesting decor - modern Gothic? with lots of sheet metal. Kind of cool looking.

One thing that I do like is that several of the clubs have windows that let you look at the girls dressing, changing, putting on make-up, even showering. At least one place had a one-way mirror where the girls put on their make-up while you can gaze into their eyes from the other side, undetected. And TVO has windows in the Mens bathroom! You can take a leak and watch the action in the club at the same time. And the urinal sits next to the girls shower with a large window in between. So you can watch them showering while they can watch you pissing! Kinda kinky . . .

I have visited 4-5 esteticas each night and will write up a complete report in several days. Some have ads in El Sol. Most do not. Some are listed in the phonebook, but many are not. Some are on Carlos maps - but only a few. For me at least, they are easily the best bang for your buck. They range from 80p to 2000p!!, but with most between 150 and 250p completo. And while there are a lot of B-list ( plus C and D-list) chicas in these places, I have found several very cute, young girls working with a smile each night. Amazing prices for what you get. My MO here has been to visit several clubs to watch and have a drink ($2 US) and then hit an estetica ($20 US) to finish off the evening. This way a fine night will cost you between $30 and $50 US max.

I am staying at the Holiday Inn Express on Colon, about 5 blocks west of Matehuala. Very clean place and relatively quiet. I have walked by PDA and that hotel is in a very busy area of Madero. Close to everything, but looks noisy. I found an internet special of $51US including taxes and breakfast at the Holiday Inn, but I had to pay in advance - hence no changing hotels. But I would recommend this place since it has a pool and a workout room and is quiet and safe. I believe it is chica friendly, but Im not positive. I will check with the desk guy before I leave. The truth is I probably will not go for a salida since with barfine and drinks and all you will spend $125-$175 US for an hour or 2. Plus it is a bit of a hassle setting it all up. But it could be worth it to you. Different strokes . . .

As mentioned by many others, a cab ride will be 15 to 30 pesos max almost anywhere in the central city. Very cheap. The Metro costs about 5 pesos per trip. I took it for the experience, but frankly for a $1 or $2 more you could take a cab.

Let me compile the massage info and I will post a complete list with addresses, chica names and details in a day or 2. Of course the girls change frequently and will be gone in a month or so, but the places themselves remain.

Merry X-mas Prokofiev

[Dan D Dick]

The only hotel that is girl friendly in that area is the Sheraton Ambassador.

Take note that you have to register a double occupancy.

In that level of hotels... that is the only one. You won't be able to get a girl into your room, doesn't matter if she is a civilian nonpro or whatever.

You're saying I simply register as a double when I check in at the Sheraton, then if I bring back a girl she'll be allowed to enter? What if I have girl "A" on night one, girl "B" on night two. Any issues then? Or are you saying that even if I do that she still won't make it past the gestapo?

Thanks for your help.

[Prokofiev]

Arrived in Monterrey last night and thought I would give some of my initial impressions of this city.

First off, the number of clubs and esteticas in this city is unbelievable. I just explored the area around Matehuala last night and I was overwhelmed with options. Went to Matehuala, El Cielo and Tangalay last night and stopped for a look at 3 others. Was outside of Infinito but was just to tired to enter. Maybe tomorrow.

Next, I was impressed by both the quantity and quality of the chicas in general. I have read many reports of guys visiting 4 or 5 clubs to find an acceptable girl. You guys must be VERY picky because I saw beautiful girls everywhere. No matter what your preference - morena, rubia, alta, baja, big tits, little tits, fake tits - you could find it easily and at each club. Someone for everyone.

Now a complaint. Everyplace was dark. Very dark, with no lights on the runway. And the few colored, blinking lights they do have are turned off when the girls remove all their clothes. Is it just me . . . or wouldnt you prefer to actually see the girls naked? I sat right up to the stage, but unless youre an owl forget about seeing anything more than an outline. In fact the best place to see the girls is at your table or around the edge of the clubs where there is a little bit of light. Call me crazy, but stripping in the dark sort of defeats the purpose. And the privado areas are very dark as well. And with only 2 folding chairs not very comfortable. And the noise level is VERY high. Speaking Spanish doesnt matter much if you cant hear.

I left Matehuala without a privado or even a drink and ended up at El Cielo. Took a privado with Yamilet, a 27 yo rubia. A tiny bit thick, but with a face to die for. Paid another 150 pesos for a CBJ - very well executed with deep throat and ball licking. When we finished, I was surprised to find a had to pay for a xtra song and 30p for the rubber. Total damage was 150 for 3 plus 150 plus 30 condom for 330 pesos. Probably too much for 15 minutes of oral sex but certainly worth it. Just was not very comfortable sitting in the open on a folding chair getting a BJ. And complete sex would have been a nightmare.

Moved on to Tangalay and took a chica for a 3 for 100 peso privado. Complete touching and nudity, but I passed on anymore sex.

After 2 more small clubs and checking out several others, I found myself at Faronas massage parlor. There are several with this name but this one is just a block from Infinito. Had 3 girls working and only 2 available. Both cute, young spinners. Cost? 160 pesos including BJ and 3 positions! Too good to be true, I tried Fatima - a 20 yo morena with braces. Seemed younger, but that could just be my age. She was very cool, but had never given a massage before. Seems like I was the first guy to ask!! So I rubbed her for 10 minutes followed by an excellent, deep CBJ. She got on top for another 5-6 minutes and delievered a believable fake? orgasm. How sweet! Finished in mish and I was very happy. After 35 minutes the tab was - just 160p! Gave her a 40p tip and left totally satisfied. A great deal. Plus you can actually see the girl and talk with her. And lay down. I really cant see doing more privados when you can do a massage parlor for $15 US.

Maybe I was just lucky with finding 2 cute girls last night. I plan to check out several other esteticas today and will report back. Maybe the talent will force me back to a club.

And dont even think about coming here without Carlos maps. Very detailed and incredibly useful. Muchas gracias Amigo!!! Also taxis are cheap and plentiful.

Luego - Prokofiev

[Member #3453]

'Tis the Season to give credit where credit is so richly deserved...

I remember when I first visited Monterrey several years ago, Carlos was gracious enough to offer to literally guide me as I explored Monterrey during my initial visits.

Initially, I chose not to meet with him, deciding instead to visit Monterrey the first couple of times armed only with the aid of his maps. Like anyone should be, I was cautious, wondering whether to literally entrust my safety and security to a complete stranger in a totally unfamiliar city, in a foreign country.

Initially, I did not agree to meet with him, just as a precautionary measure. But, due to his persistent attempts, we eventually did meet, and I now count him as one of my very good friends, and an outstanding regular companion as we visit the clubs of Monterrey.

Take it from me, Carlos is totally and completely trustworthy. He has no alterior motives, and does not expect or anticipate any special compensations in return for his good deeds, other than to expect and anticipate your honest and trusting friendship in return.

Carlos' notariety on this board is legendary, and because of that, his availablility to physically accompany some of us around Monterrey may be incrementally more limited as his notariety continues to spread. However, if you find that he has the time available to accompany you, I urge you to jump at the opportunity without reservation.

[Porker]

Gentlemen, excellent and entertaining reports posted here recently. Good work. For anyone that is visiting Monterrey, meeting up with Carlos Perez is the smartest thing you can do. He's a true expert on the Monterrey scene and can always steer you in the right direction.

[MonterreyDude]

The only hotel that is girl friendly in that area is the Sheraton Ambassador.
Take note that you have to register a double occupancy.
In that level of hotels... that is the only one. You won't be able to get a girl into your room, doesn't matter if she is a civilian nonpro or whatever.

I've been to MTY many, many times & always have a good time. Since the client is always paying for it & since they recommend the Crowne Plaza, that's where I usually stay. I've also stayed at the Radisson Hotel Ancira, which isn't quite up to the CP's quality standards.

Alas, my last assignment is over. But.....I may get new opportunities in another month or so. So, here's the questions:

Since my client will again be paying the hotel tab, what's the best quality hotel in the CBD area that's girl friendly? Obviously I'd like something walking distance to the macroplaza if possible, but the core criteria here are upscale & girl friendly.

Help!

Thanks.

[Dan D Dick]

I've been to MTY many, many times & always have a good time. Since the client is always paying for it & since they recommend the Crowne Plaza, that's where I usually stay. I've also stayed at the Radisson Hotel Ancira, which isn't quite up to the CP's quality standards.

Alas, my last assignment is over. But.....I may get new opportunities in another month or so. So, here's the questions:

Since my client will again be paying the hotel tab, what's the best quality hotel in the CBD area that's girl friendly? Obviously I'd like something walking distance to the macroplaza if possible, but the core criteria here are upscale & girl friendly.

Help!

Thanks.

[Dos Lunas]

MTY TRIP NEWBIE REPORT (long report)

Thanks to all who have posted and especially to Carlos Perez for showing me his beautiful city! It was well worth my visit and wished I could have stayed longer.

This report is written with those in mind who have never visited MTY. Here are my tips for your first visit. Also for those who wish to pursue both the P4P and non-pro scene.

Plane ticket from LAX: Bought plane ticket for $380 dollars roundtrip via Expedia 17 days prior to departure, but check 2-3 weeks prior for the best deal. Price was $280 dollars on the 13th and 16th day prior to departure and then went back up. Also checked the other travel sites, Yahoo, Travelocity, Orbitz and all were about the same price. The airlines own websites were actually more expensive, such as Aviasca, Mexicana, and Delta. But as always, check all these sites several times for the best price.

Dress code: Nobody wears shorts and tennis shoes in MTY. Take jeans, shoes, and collar shirts.

Money exchange: Definitely change your dollars to pesos. The best places are at the airport at MTY or an ATM.

Hotel: Stayed at the Howard Johnson for $62 dollars a night, reserved via Expedia. It is located across the street from the MacroPlaza (see below). It included 2 free breakfast buffets each day used between 7am-11am. The food was very good here. It also included 2 free drinks each day. The room was decent and clean. They have a mini-frig and microwave. They also have nightly entertainment if only to relax and have some drinks. This was a nice hotel for the money. However, during my whole stay the phone system was not working properly, and important messages were not received. Highly recommended but make sure the phone system is working properly if you decide to stay here. They can be reached at:

Tel: 52813435129 Fax: 528183806087

Carlos believes they are chica friendly but did not have a chance to try a salida (2 hr. takeout) to find out.

MacroPlaza: This is an awesome place for the non-pro scene. Tons and tons of beautiful women all over the place in and around this area. There are tons of shops in an outdoor environment where people from all over come to gather and shop. There are museums within walking distance to check out. There are monuments and a huge beautiful church to visit. Best of all there is a section called the Barrio Antiguo within walking distance from the hotel filled with tons and tons of clubs and restaurants catering to the mostly 20’s and 30’s crowd. There were beautiful women all over these places. Most were in groups.

Struck out at the clubs but did meet a gorgeous blonde 19 year old and a stunning brunette 18 year old, .on a different day at the shops during the day. Both were from nearby cities and were strolling around the shops.

PLACES VISITED

Matehuala: This place was awesome. Felt comfortable and safe. This was the best place I experienced from all the clubs I visited. All the girls take turns dancing. There are three stages with two girls each dancing. There were plenty of beautiful and sexy girls between 18-23 years old. No one tips the girls on stage and you can get a good handful as they get nearby. Found Miriam, a hot, sexy, and slutty dark goddess dressed in white stockings, garter, short skirt and clear fuck me stripper shoes, who led me downstairs for one fuck of a lifetime.

It was very difficult on the two chairs provided and dark, plus the open environment, but WTF, I was in the moment and I did not care. She was tight and smooth and I loved every minute of it. Okay CBJ but the finally perrito was awesome. Four songs later I am back upstairs. In all spent 400 pesos for full service with a gorgeous GFE for about $37 dollars. Drank some more beers and had some more slutty dances with other girls. This was on a Friday.

Came here 3 of the 4 nights I was in MTY and only because I took a break from the ‘table clubs’ as they are called.

On Saturday the place was jammed packed but there did not seem to be a lot of quality girls. Had regular slutty dances with different girls with all you can do except sex.

On Monday, the place was hot again with many gorgeous girls. Picked Leslie, a gorgeous light skinned pornstar chica with an ass to die for. Asked when she would be dancing and said shortly. On the dance stage she came near me for a long time and I got to feel that wonderful ass of hers and touch her all over. After a couple of songs, waved my arm so she could go we me downstairs, but she gestured to wait a little until she finished her dancing on stage.

It seems they dance about 5 songs. So as she was getting off the stage there must have been at least 6 other guys trying to get her attention for a privado downstairs. Luckily, she remembered me and came to me first.

Paid the first 50 pesos, went downstairs and she sat her naked gorgeous body on me CG style and started grinding away. She lived up to her porn look and fulfilled all my desires: porn style CBJ, the best I ever got (been to Tijuana many times!) and porn style RCG hopping on me like a rabbit and I just held on for the ride. All two songs of it! She removed the condom, wiped me off, and off she went to the next guy. In all spent 100 pesos for two songs, 150 pesos for full service including BJ, and 30 pesos for the condom, for a total of 280 pesos or about $26 dollars for my very own porn star. Just amazing!

Infinito: Checked out this place on Saturday but was way too packed with the locals and nowhere to sit. All the girls were busy at the privados. The girls I did see were nice looking but appeared to have a slight attitude compared to the girls at Matehuala.
Came back on Monday and was able to sample some girls. There were some hot chicas but again felt a slight attitude compared to the Matehuala girls. The privados or dances were 50 pesos, but the girls I had wanted more for CBJ or FS than Matehuala. I did not have FS, I was already spoiled from the girls at Matehuala and went back there for Leslie.

Givenchy: Did not like this place or any of the other 3 or 4 tables lined near Infinito.

Obsession: Visited on Saturday and it was a very upscale high-end place that reminded me of a U.S. club. No to touching while one girl danced, lots of girls with attitude and smoking. The prices were very similar to the prices of any Déjà vu club in the U.S. and so this placed turned me off. Also, the price to get in is 100 pesos verses 10 pesos at Matehuala and Infinito on the weekend.

Prestige: This is the place where I finally got together with Carlos and is considered the best high end table club around. It as not as fluffy as Obsession, but the girls were nicer and decent looking. The girls at these high-end clubs are considered classier and the girls at the low-end clubs are considered sluttier, but in terms of looks and quality, my best choice would be Matehuala. However, they had an awesome buffet and we got to enjoy seeing and talking to the girls while we were there.


In all I had a very good experience in MTY. It is a huge city surrounded by mountains. MTY is similar to a county in the U.S. and the cities within are known as colonias. Be sure to get the colonia when getting an address. A good place to look up addresses on the net is callejero.com.mx. Transportation by taxi is plentiful and cheap, about 40 pesos from the hotel to the table clubs. Just be sure the taxi knows where these places are and insist on going if he tries to steer you elsewhere. The taxistas get paid their commission for steering you to the high end table clubs.

Finally, many thanks to Carlos for his invaluable insight and information on MTY. He is a good guy and a friend indeed. A good host to hook up with for anyone taking a trip to MTY. Hope to visit this awesome city again!

[Member #3453]

i just returned from my latest trip to monterrey. this was a short trip, only three nights this time. the last night of my trip was totally unbelievable. but, more on that later…

here are a couple of logistically useful hints about staying at hotel plaza del arco:

1. always bring a high wattage light bulb with you when you stay in hotel plaza del arco. the bulbs they use in those rooms make you feel that you are going blind for most of the time you’re in the room. lately, i’ve become disciplined at bringing one of those high efficiency 100 watt spiral shaped bulbs, the kind that actually produces considerable more than 100 watts with less heat dissipation. i just replace the bulb for the duration of my stay, and then i put the old one back in the fixture before leaving. just make sure that you pack the bulb in a plastic bag inside your suitcase so that pieces of glass do no get all through your things if it should happen to break. i know this recommendation may sound trivial. but believe me, you will really appreciate the significance of this suggestion after you have arrived, and you will enjoy the added comfort throughout the duration of your stay.

2. i always ask for a room on the interior of the hotel. the noise in the downtown streets of monterrey is deafening, even up to two or three in the morning. there are so many loud noises…endless multitudes of buses, occassional ambulances, car alarms, and incessant horn blowing, that you will not get any sleep at night. so, don’t forget to ask for a room on the interior of the hotel.

3.. i was really elated to have discovered on my previous trip last time that i was able to access a high speed internet connection from a third floor interior room of plaza del arco. my laptop accessed the unsecured wifi system of the college located across the street from pda, just slightly to the south. so, on this most recent trip, i decided that a fourth floor room, because or higher elevation, might be advantageous. but, i was not able to receive the wifi signal from room 401, which is directly above the room i had stayed in on my last trip, the one where i could actually access the internet directly from the room. but, the significant thing is that you can access the high speed connection from the interior rooms on the third floor, the ones that face pino suarez, and you can access it from the entire lobby area of the hotel, and even from a table in the back of the restaurant area of
the hotel.

4. another thing i noticed is that the breakfast in the restaurant at pda seems to have improved. i haven’t tried any other meals in the restaurant lately, and i only ate breakfast there again on the last day of my stay, but i think it’s better than it used to be. if so, it’s certainly more convenient to eat breakfast in the pda restaurant than it is to try to catch a cab in the morning to the best western restaurant at galeana and madero, which is where i frequent for breakfast otherwise.

day 1:

on my first night in town, i wanted to bar fine a girl from el cielo that i had met on my last couple of trips. she was very affectionate in the privados the first time i met her, and i spent way toooooooo much money on her. i probably spent about 1000 pesos with her just in the privados.

so, the next trip to monterrey, i decided that i would not spend that kind of money on her again. i did have a couple of privados with her, but i limited them to a maximum expenditure of 200 pesos.

she has a really smoking hot body, and her face is not particularly beautiful but ok. she is my type, a flaca morena. but, i noticed that her personality was somewhat boisterous and aggressive, not soft and gentle, which is what i prefer. i began to sense that her personality was more possibly the boisterous hot tempered mercenary type, something that i might regret in the future.

i eventually concluded that she was really putting on an act to get me into the privados, and that there was not the sincerity of affection that i had originally hoped might be a component of her personality. i have many girlfriends in monterrey that demonstrate a real sincerity of affection toward me, which is an essential component to experiencing a good gfe. if the girl is merely putting on an act, one that i can see through, then it’s a turn off.

i sensed that she was probably focused on me because i had spent so much the first time in the privados, but i could sense from her a little frustration that she was not able to extract more from me on these subsequent trips. i had mentioned that i wanted to pay a bar fine and take her to my hotel, but the last couple of trips she was unavailable, or we were never actually able to hook up.

i sensed that she had already concluded that she was going to have to make good on the salida (bar fine), or she was probably never going to get me to pay for future ridiculously expensive privados. i remember that after we were in my hotel, she asked me if i thought she was never really ever going to go with me on a salida.

her question to me was very revealing. if you read between the lines, the content of her question to me suggests that she strategized that a salida would strengthen her position with me for future business, and it revealed to me that there was no real affection there, but rather her “act” was strictly business.

she even suggested that after our time at the hotel, she wanted me to return to the club for privados later in the week, and she told me i would receive more of the same thing she was giving me at the hotel, in the privados. she obviously viewed her demonstrated commitment to me by coming to the hotel as some kind of contract between us, and a prerequisite for me to spend outrageously ridiculous amounts of money on her in the privados. i also sensed that her expectation that by going with me to the hotel, she now owned me whenever i visited el cielo.

my experience with her at the hotel was mediocre. as i said, she has a very hot body, but she is one of those girls that's in a hurry to finish. she was supposed to stay with me for 1-1/2 hours, and she was literally done and out the door in 45 minutes. now, in this instance, i do not expect any kind of refund or anything because she did deliver the goods, but it is just so much fluff…mechanical…uneventful, and certainly not in the category of gfe.

needless to say, my conclusions at the end of our session were not positive, and her prospects to retain me as a good client are in significant jeopardy. i did not complain to her or act unhappy about the outcome. she fulfilled her obligations to service me, but there are no fireworks. and, more importantly, i don’t think i really like her personality very much. i suppose she is not really my type...just too much the firecracker.

so, on subsequent trips to el-cielo, i did not purchase any privados from her. i concluded that i was going to try to find another alternative at el cielo. unfortunately, in order to get her off my back asking from privados, i merely say “mas tarde” or tomorrow…whatever it takes. but, the downside to that is that she still has the expectation that i might be the golden goose. i realized that over the course of this trip, i would have to send her a clear message.

day 2:
worked hard all day. decided to take a night off from salidas (bar fines). i knew i would have to get up the next day to work again, so i just visited my usual haunts…did some privados…nothing really eventful.


day 3:
on my last night in town, after spending an enjoyable afternoon at the buffet at prestige with carlos and porker, i ended up bar hopping with porker the rest of the night. unfortunately, carlos had other prior commitments and left us to our own sorted devices.

we stopped in some of our regular haunts and we finally ended up at tvo on zaragoza. i had wanted to visit tvo again after so many months of not being there, but i had talked myself out of it earlier in the week. i had concluded that i just didn’t think it was particularly productive because the privados there are in an open common area, and the idea of buying jarras, pitchers of “wine,” for the girls just didn’t particularly seem productive.

tvo holds a particular heartfelt significance for me. i met a girl in tvo one time that is still one of my all time best gfe experiences, even compared to all other parts of the world. this girl still holds a really solid place in my heart. my time with her is part of my initial formative gfe experiences in monterrey, and the monterrey gfe initiation experience is something one never really forgets.

i suspect that her significance is more a function of sentimentality as it relates to my initiation in monterrey than to any real gfe comparative quality to other girls i have known elsewhere. but, we are emotional creatures, and i will never forget this girl, and the feelings she stirred in me at the time.

it has been about two years since i visited tvo. but, because of cindy, tvo has a mystique that will forever be associated with my time with her. the time with cindy lasted only for several days over the course of maybe a month or two, but those days with her were some of the best gfe one could experience. i remember cindy actually spent four straight days with me one time, and even made a trip with me up to reynosa. cindy no longer works in the bars of monterrey, but the sweet memories still loom large for me.

anyway, i had not been avoiding tvo because of any melancholy reasons or anything, but over the course of a couple of years, i had decided that the buying of jarras, etc…was a practice that was non-productive. i began instead to concentrate on venues like infinito, matehuela, and givenchy. tvo, along with extasis, became clubs that i was not particularly interested in visiting. i had visited tvo once or twice over the last couple of years, and was not particularly impressed with the talent there.

but, after visiting tvo on my last night on this most recent trip, porker and i discovered that a cast of really exceptionally gorgeous and beautiful dancers work there. but, keep in mind that we were visiting on a friday night, a night when many fantastic looking girls come out of the woodwork all over monterrey. but, comparatively, even for a weekend at other establishments, the girls at tvo were the cream of the entire crop in monterrey. i have no idea of the level of quality of the talent during the week at tvo versus on weekends.

all i know is, porker and i were absolutely astounded at the continuous lineup of really exceptionally gorgeous dancers, girls that had literally perfect bodies, and attractive faces as well. i choose to have a privado with one girl that actually looked like she was no more than seventeen, and her body was absolutely flawless…indescribable flaca nubile seventeen year old perfection with the most perfect butt…really! it occurs to me now that my tvo girl, cindy, was also a girl with a perfect body, absolutely beautiful in almost everyway. so, tvo must have a relatively good scouting program. i will definitely not be discounting tvo in the future, especially on weekend nights.

i still have a reluctance to buy jarras, but in retrospect, i met cindy buying jarras at tvo, so maybe i should reconsider the entire strategy versus the lower cost option offered at infinito, matehuela, and givenchy. it’s possible that mixing the two strategies might prove to be a nice diversity of change.

if the girls porker and i saw dancing there are actually available for takeout, it may be well worth the added cost of buying a jarra or two, if that sort of thing is affordable for you to do. but, another consideration is the cost of a salida from tvo, which is around 1800 pesos. certainly, that is very expensive compared to the other options from infinito, matehuela, and givenshy, which is merely 1350 pesos ($128usd). but if the expense isn’t an issue, or you want to treat yourself to an exceptionally beautiful woman, then tvo definitely had the lineup on friday night…outstanding, really!!!

we probably spent about an hour at tvo, then we decided to check out extasis. nothing was exceptional at extasis, and i will probably only visit there periodically in the future, just to determine if things have changed for the better. they have remodeled the place, and it is nicer on the inside, but the selection of girls is not impressive, imho. after cynthia (my cindy #2 compared to cindy #1 at tvo) left extasis to have a baby, the place dropped off my radar, and has never really regained any stature in my book.

my last stop with porker was infinito to check out the lineup. i found a girl that i had once bar fined from el cielo, and i decided to take her to the privados to say hello. it was getting late so porker decided to head for home about that time.

after a short privado at infinito, i decided to head over to el cielo. porker and i did a run through at el cielo earlier that evening, and i had told one of the girls (not the one from my first night in town) that i would return to bar fine her later that night around 11-12pm. it was now about 1am, and i was late returning to el cielo to pick up my bar fine.

i have several girlfriends in el cielo (and in infinito too), and juggling them all without making each of them really mad is getting to be a very difficult task. remember, the girl i had bar fined two nights earlier was also expecting me to buy some privados from her, which i only had promised to do to get her off my back. but, over the course of my entire stay in monterrey this trip, i never buy her any subsequent privados. obviously, i was thinking she was going to be really pissed off when she sees me bar fining another girl after having reneged on buying a couple of privados from her subsequent to our salida together.

fortunately, my girl from two nights ago was not on the floor when i arrived at el cielo on my last night in town, and the object of my desires was on stage just finishing her set. as i walked into the bar she smiled really big, and clapped her hands together in genuine delight that i had shown up. so, she came down off the stage and asked me if i wanted to do the salida now. i said yes, and i gave her 350 pesos for the salida. in a few minutes she was back fully clothed, and ready to go. fortunately, i never saw the girl from the previous night, and i avoided the contentious issue of why i brushed her off in favor of another girl.

later, as i was walking to the hotel with the new girl, she told me that my girl from two nights ago was angry that i was leaving with someone else. she had apparently talked to her in the dressing room. i’m sure this whole affair is not something that can not be remedied with a few pesos, so i’ll see what happens when i return in december or january.

anyway, this new girl was outstanding!!!!!!!! she is literally a nympho maniac. i would categorize our session not as a gfe, but as pure lust…on her part. don’t get me wrong, i have typical male lust, but this girl had an uncharacteristic female lust that is very rare indeed. it was a delight to be with a frickin’ porn star quality girl that really wants to engage in as much sex as possible. she stayed with me the entire amount of allotted time, 1-1/2 hours. she is having her 20th birthday on sunday, and she has a hard body. she is tall, blonde, and has a cute face. she has no kids and is as tight as a drum.

but, here is the more interesting thing. many times when i bring a girl to the hotel, i like to set up my laptop to play various music selections that i have cataloged. in her case, i asked if she wanted to listen to some music.
she came over to look at the selection of albums there, and she exclaimed in a really excited manner, “oh-eagles…me gusto mucho.”

those of you who know me well will find her exclamation significant. i am a long-time fan of the eagles, and they rank up there with my most favorite music selections, if not my absolute favorite group. but, more interestingly, the girls of monterrey are not that familiar with the eagles, with the exception of hotel california, and even then, with hotel california being played quite regularly in some of the clubs, most of the girls do not know of the eagles. so, for my new girl to select the eagles as one of her favorites was prophetic indeed.

but, not only did this girl know of and like the eagles a lot, she actually recited the words to the songs as they were playing. she speaks no english, and she was reciting the words to the songs in english. we played songs that would be considered slightly obscure even to north americans who may be completely familiar with the eagles, songs that are generally known but not played regularly to the masses. she knew the words to those lesser known songs without any hesitation whatsoever. of course, not knowing any english, she does not have a clue as to the meanings of the words, que lastima.

as i said, this girl was a nympho for sex, and she had gfe qualities, but the sex dominated her desires, versus the romantic aspect of many gfe encounters. i’m not complaining here, as her love of the same music, and her lust for me made everything surreal. this was a one in a million gfe/porn movie/classic rock concert experience…a gfe-pm-cr (gfpmcre) 

i was disappointed to learn that she doesn’t have a cell phone, and that she literally lives an hour from monterrey. but, she was eager to get my phone number so she could call me. i don’t like giving girls my cell phone number, so i gave her my page number instead, a place where she can leave a message. i told her that i don’t answer my cell phone often and that she will just have to leave a message if i am not there. the pager concept works best for me. i certainly don’t need mexican bar girls calling me in the middle of client meetings, right?

[Dos Lunas]

Great report RockMtnWay! Looks like you really had a good time at the clubs and especially at Infinito.

I will be arriving in three days! Hope the weather will be nice, the food good, and the women beautiful and sexy, as everyone has described here in their reports.

[RockyMtnWay]

Just returned yesterday from my first MTY trip. As is my usual custom, on other boards, I will try to write a report from a newbie perspective. Lots of mostly non mongering newbie observations will be at the end of the report. This is long, my apologies if it is too long.

Arrived at the PDA around 1:00 PM Saturday and my room was available. Put my stuff in the room, grabbed the map Carlos sent me via Email and went off to get my bearings. Within just a few minutes found Matehuala, Infinito, Givenchy and El Cielo. I passed a number of other clubs along the way but went looking for these four as they are often listed in reports here as the best bang for the buck (no pun intended, maybe). Returned to the PDA and unpacked, bought some stuff at a convenience store and later found a place to eat.

Arrived at Infinito around 6:00 PM planning to check it out, have two beers and move on to the next club. The place was packed (one of the local soccer teams was playing). There are two long stages with a few chicas dancing and lots standing around that can be taken up stairs for a groping session, oral, sexo completo or whatever. Every so often they present all the girls on stage at the same time and you can select any chica from the stage and go up stairs for a privado. I was sitting at one of the few chairs at the bar trying to get a feel for the place. I haven't been a club guy in the past and this is a new scene for me. A guy walks up to me and asks me in English if I worked at <censored> and I said yes. He had seen me at the large facility, outside of MTY, where I worked last week (I am an obvious Gringo). He invited me go join him at the stage. Later he helped set up my first trip upstairs. I ended up drinking way too much beer and tequila and staying until midnight :-). As usual I have a plan to start the night and abandon the plan as soon as things get interesting. I later stopped in at Matehuala for an hour and El Cielo for a beer then headed for the room.

Sunday night I was solo. Infinito was rocking by 6:00 PM (the other MTY soccer team was playing). I did a little better at hitting the various clubs and checking out the various girls available. I ended up back at Infinito about 1:00 AM.

Monday had lunch at Prestige with Carlos. A great buffet with many selections and it's cheap. This is a fancy club and drinks for the girls run around 120 pesos or more. I have read here on the board that the chicas will not ask you to buy them a drink if you still are still eating. Keeping a little fruit on your plate will keep them away. Buzzzzzz, wrong. This rather, er, um, "high strung" (read wild and crazy) chica comes over and picks up the fruit with a fork and puts it in my mouth :-). I was there twice more and she would walk up to my table and shake her body a little and scream my name. Monday night I was out at the various clubs again. I ended up the night upstairs at Infinito again. Yes, there is a trend developing.

Tuesday it's the lunch buffet at Obsession with Carlos and UnospongeBob. Another upscale club with an inexpensive buffet and expensive drinks for the girls. Again a good selection of good food. We stayed for a while and the guys bought a couple of chicas drinks. I was cheap and didn't buy any drinks, this time. Tuesday night hooked up with UnospongeBob and Porker. UnospongeBob is well known in these places. He was impressively "working" the room at Infinito. He seemed to know all the good looking chicas. We hit a bunch of clubs and had a great time. Both are great guys and it was really fun to hook up with them and share in their MTY knowledge. I ended the night with a session back at Infinito

Wednesday, what the hell happened Wednesday?? I should have better notes. I was going to walk to Obsession to have lunch but decided to walk around and check out MTY some more. Grabbed some tacos at a nice little place I found a few block from the PDA. I went out to the clubs a bit earlier today, around 4:00 PM. There was a decent crowd at Infinito and Matehuala although all the stages weren't open yet. Carlos and UnospongeBob found me at Infinito later. We hit several clubs (including Harem for the first time) and I ended the night at ... (you guessed it).

Thursday it's lunch at Prestige. I did spend the $$$ to buy a couple of drinks for a cute chica. She was intelligent, spoke English well and we got along very well. Thursday night hooked up with UnospongeBob and later Carlos joined us. Went to Tangalay for the first time (across the street from Givenchy and Infinito). I turned down a chica that ask me to buy her a drink. The next one took a more direct approach. She jumped in my lap and started grinding. She wasn't the best looking chica in the bar but was attractive and spoke English well. After a drink I did a bar fine with her for two hours (in pesos it was 300+1000+50 tip for waiter) and we headed back to the PDA around 11:30. I had a good experience with her but not quite for the amount of time I paid for. She was very GFE and I had a great time for about an hour and 15 minutes. Between her kids and other responsibilities she was running on about two hours sleep. So she started to burn out on me after a session. I let her sleep about 30 minutes with her head on my shoulder while I watched TV. Actually kind of a enjoyable GFE moment in a strange way. She apparently made enough money off me that she skipped going back to the club and went home to sleep.

Friday, starting to get that 'time is running short' feeling :-(. Off to Prestige for lunch with Carlos. Got a couple of drinks for the chica from the day before. Carlos had a little time available in the afternoon so we hit Infinito and Matehuala. I stuck around Matehuala long after Carlos left. But we all know where I ended up for one last session to finish the night around 1:00 AM :-).

Saturday off to the airport at 9:00 AM.

A VERY special thanks to Carlos. Not only did I have the pleasure of spending a lot of time with him but he sent all his maps and we exchanged many Emails before my arrival. He even called me at the business hotel where I stayed the week before the PDA to see if he could help when I mentioned in an Email I was sick. His hospitality was amazing and much appreciated. Thanks also to UnospongeBob. He is an extremely experienced monger with world wide experience and just plain fun to hang out with. Only got to spend one evening with Porker but he is a great guy also. And I even got invited to Asia :-). I feel very fortunate to have met up and spent time with these guys in MTY.

Newbie observations:

Monterrey has to be the safest large city I have ever visited. I walked eight block back to my hotel as late at 3:45 AM. Because the clubs stay open so late there are people out, a fair amount of traffic on the streets and food vendors out all night long. As always I try and stay aware of what is going on around me. But I never made it back to the PDA before 1 AM and always felt reasonably safe.

I have been to Costa Rica twice this year (stayed in the "Gulch" and two beach towns) and previously visited a couple of beach towns in Mexico. So I have been in some Spanish language tourist areas. But MTY has nothing in common with these places. I saw very few Gringos and little or no English is spoken in most places. You need to know a few words or phrases, which is all I know, and it really helped that I know numbers fairly well. I knew enough that I could order food but never knew what I was being asked after I ordered the food. I had several frustrating and embarrassing moments. But if you travel abroad a fair amount one gets somewhat use to this type of thing. But if I knew no Spanish at all I would have been lost. A dictionary comes in handy but perhaps one of the little translator devices they sell at BestBuy, etc would be good if your Spanish is near non existent. They even make translators that 'talk' for around $100.

Even if you don't speak the language you won't starve to death :-). That maybe sounds funny but Carlos called me, I think Sunday, to see if I was having that or any other problems. If nothing else there is a convenience store on almost every other corner. I bought most of my breakfast stuff and late night snacks at these places. I bought a cooler to keep some stuff in my room. Lunch isn't a problem during the weekdays, just go to Obsession or Prestige. They open at 2 PM for the buffet and Prestige serves until 6 PM and Obsession until 5 PM. It's all you can eat for a two for one entry fee of 60 pesos. If you are solo you will still be charged 60 pesos, but that is still really cheap for what you get. Drinks (beer, sodas, some mixed drinks) are around 40 pesos but they are two for one during the buffet. So you can have great meals with beers there inexpensively *IF* you don't buy the girls drinks. I took a fairly long walk east down Madero, past Harem and across the street, to a big grocery store and picked up a few things. There are plenty of restaurants around the PDA. I found a couple I liked and they sort of got use to me :-). I never ate at the PDA even though I stayed there seven nights. Most of the time I didn't see anyone in the restaurant. It's seems to be one of those hotels where you see a decent looking restaurant but often no customers.

About the Plaza del Arco. The PDA reminds me of an old hotel in the US that has seen better days. I had a nice bed (thought a little hard), the room was cleaned well (the bathroom always looked clean) but in many respects it is run down. They have this terrible grayish black carpet that seems to have no padding and no molding where the carpet meets the wall. While it was obvious my room was vacuumed everyday the carpet in my room was dirty. To the point the bottom of my feet would get slightly dirty. I did have a Jr. Suite so there was more walking around than a standard room at add to this effect, but the carpet was dirty. Despite all this the room was comfortable. I do not really like this hotel but because of the location and lack of other choices I would likely stay there again. The chica at the desk when I checked in didn't speak a word of English. But Orlando, who made my reservation via Email, came out and got me all set up. The PDA is located at the intersection of two very large streets. Ask for an inside room or bring some good ear plugs. Oh, and bring a wash cloth if you want one.

As obvious from my report Infinito was my favorite club. They have a lot of chicas and some of the waiters would make an effort to speak a little English to me (really the only place that happened). After I showed up there with UnospongeBob the waiters would ask me where he was :-). Mostly in Infinito, but in some other clubs, I had locals come up and start a conversation in English just so they could practice their English. One local in Infinito saw me standing alone and asked if I spoke much Spanish. When I answered "poco" he invited me to join him and his friend. However I explained to him I was with someone (UnospongeBob) and was waiting for him to return from upstairs. Which brought a good laugh. So as a raw Gringo I just had a better, maybe more correct to say an easier, experience at Infinito. But there are a lot of great clubs and Matehuala has a big selection of girls. Some nights one club is better than the other. It's fun to wander around to the various clubs but some times you can get caught up in just wandering around. BTW the guy called Chicano, that speaks english, still works at Matehuala. He came over to me only minutes after I arrived the first time. He will help you arrange a trip downstairs if you are have big problems trying to communicate with a chica. He is fishing for a little propina, so if you use his services a bit of a tip is in order.

I was told that typically at Infinito and Matehuala oral usually costs 100 pesos and sexo 200 pesos but some girls might be a bit higher. My first oral was 100, 30 for a condom and 100 for the eight minutes. All the other times it was 120+30+100. So not sure if the chicas prices were different or I got Gringoed. I turned down one chica that asked for 300 for sexo and wouldn't lower the price. But 200 didn't seem to be the norm for this Gringo.

OK, I'll shut up now and start working on my Spanish. Hope this was worth something. Probably made a few errors that Carlos can clean up.

Adios, RockyMtnWay