2006 Monterrey Reports

[Doubt98]

Many have asked how are the clubs right now and if it is a good time to plan a trip.
Definitly not a good time.
Clubs like Inifinito are dead compared to 15 days ago. Girls tend to slow down during Christmas and New Years, firstly cause they go for vacation time or just quality time with their families.
The clubs on Madero ave are also slowing down.
The girl presence might go as low as 60% from the regular numbers. Some places it might go even lower.
Thing is there is no money for them. People are saving so they can have fun on New Years....

I just returned from Monterrey and Carlos is correct. The talent pool is small. There are still hot ones to be found, but ALL the girls were in great demand. I saw one girl at the Matehuala try four times to get on stage but was picked up before she could climb the steps.
The girls were busy and were not willing to negotiate. But why should they when it's like this. I knew the situation before I left but this was the only free time I had.

[El Cabron 007]

No USB. My time is filled to a point that some of my girls are asking why I have taken them out yet. My girls are here.

And yes, many of them live far away and either left or are about to leave for a couple of weeks.

Get this: I ride to the "O" place. As I get out of the taxi, this knockout girl is walking out of the main gate just as I was about to enter. I thought to myself "what a hot girl. She is so pretty" and then I instantly realized.. She's my "J" girl. She had an argument and decided to walk out. had I been a minute late, I would not have found her. We ended up spending the entire afternoon together. Had a great time. I think "J" is the most genuine girl I have in MTY. Sweet and loving. Does exactly what I like for a girl to do. She is now asking me to visit her at home with her mom and daughter. I do not see this happening any time soon.

Later, made my way to the "I" place where Carlos was doing his usually chase. 3 of my girls are still here. My "S" is leaving tomorrow. "J" is already gone. "X" is here and so is "P". I am as happy as can be. I was the envy of the hoodlums having "S" and "X" giving me a great time while most of the girls pass by me and stop to give me a kiss and a hug. Carlos' friend was shocked. "You know all these women?"

This is not to say that the club is full. You can definitely feel the gap. Many of them are gone for a couple of weeks.

Me? On top of the world. Well, at least a couple of girls. Don't worry about me. I'll find them with my chicas radar.

Wasted

It sounds like WastedG must have had a bad time this weekend then. Well, I would never actually believe that MTY would yield a bad time, but when you are used to having outstanding experiences like WastedG is used to having, a 60% reduction in the talent pool has to be a shocker, verdad?

I would not recommend going to MTY during the holiday season. Many of these girls are from outside of MTY. Some are from far outside of MTY. Many of them return to their home towns for the holidays to visit family members that have NO IDEA what they do for a living, and only see them once or twice a year. So, it seems to me after having talked to a number of the girls over the years, that the girls take this opportunity to live a relatively "normal" family life existence, at least for a couple of weeks each year anyway.

[Member #3453]

It sounds like WastedG must have had a bad time this weekend then. Well, I would never actually believe that MTY would yield a bad time, but when you are used to having outstanding experiences like WastedG is used to having, a 60% reduction in the talent pool has to be a shocker, verdad?

I would not recommend going to MTY during the holiday season. Many of these girls are from outside of MTY. Some are from far outside of MTY. Many of them return to their home towns for the holidays to visit family members that have NO IDEA what they do for a living, and only see them once or twice a year. So, it seems to me after having talked to a number of the girls over the years, that the girls take this opportunity to live a relatively "normal" family life existence, at least for a couple of weeks each year anyway.

Many have asked how are the clubs right now and if it is a good time to plan a trip.
Definitly not a good time.
Clubs like Inifinito are dead compared to 15 days ago. Girls tend to slow down during Christmas and New Years, firstly cause they go for vacation time or just quality time with their families.
The clubs on Madero ave are also slowing down.
The girl presence might go as low as 60% from the regular numbers. Some places it might go even lower.
Thing is there is no money for them. People are saving so they can have fun on New Years....

[MonterreyDude]

Many have asked how are the clubs right now and if it is a good time to plan a trip.
Definitly not a good time.
Clubs like Inifinito are dead compared to 15 days ago. Girls tend to slow down during Christmas and New Years, firstly cause they go for vacation time or just quality time with their families.
The clubs on Madero ave are also slowing down.
The girl presence might go as low as 60% from the regular numbers. Some places it might go even lower.
Thing is there is no money for them. People are saving so they can have fun on New Years....

[El Cabron 007]

This is Carlos posting from WastedG room:
Ok guys, both of you USB and WG... when do the violins start playing?

Isn't it interesting to be able to now look back on the "skill set" of your old HOT girlfriend, and to realize that a girl can only develop that range of ability and enthusiasm through significant experience, especially if they are of a young age. I also theorize that many of the pros adopt the life of a pro because they run HOTTTTTTTTTT!!!

I've found that most "good girls," the marrying type, the type that make for good companions, good mothers, faithful wives, etc...do not run HOT like a male, and they are relatively inexperienced sexually, and not typically adventurous sexually. Conversely, my best girls in MTY seemingly have a sexual appetite that almost seems more like that of a male.

But, that having been said, there is a difference between our MTY club girls as well. Some of them are mere actresses. Many of them do not have the horny excessive male "desire" for sex that others of them have. For some, it is all an act. But, there are a few that run HOT all the time, and their desire and enthusiasm is real. That girl I used to see in El Cielo was HOT all the time. Then, there are others that are merely there to provide a service, and some do not seemingly have the inherent "enthusiasm" that only a continually HORNY girl can deliver.

Your HOT ex-girlfriend sounds like she ran HOT all the time, and she was trying to hook you to establish her legitimized lifestyle. That doesn't mean that she did not have legitimized love and affection for you that was sufficient for marriage, but it does mean that you could have been in for some real heartache down the road, especially if in fact she was a former pro.

Most of the club girls we see in MTY willl eventually get married. Most of them start to realize they are losing their youth around age 25, and they will begin to consider the "legitimate" life. The girls will undoubtedly deliver great sex in order to hook a guy to achieve their "legitimate" lives.

I know a club girl in MTY, and real sweetheart too. She confides in me about her hopes and dreams. You want to know the thing that weighs on her mind the most? She is worried that there are no faithful men to be found. Can you believe it? Here is a pro, thinking about legitimizing her life, and she, of all types of girls, having the experience with men that she has, is worried that she won't find a man that will be faithful only to her. The double standard lives, even amoung the pros. Of course, I try to tell her that "I" am faithful to her, but somehow, she does not believe me :-) She once asked me how many women I had been with already in my life, and before I could answer, she blurted out the answer, "Mil" (1000) she asked. I laughed it off, and said, NOOOOOOO!!!!! No muchas, maybe 700-800, no mas.

I have always wondered what becomes of the pros that eventually legitimize their lives. Do they establish a normal "family" life? Do they screw around on their husbands? Do they remain faithful because they value their legitimized lives? Do their husbands ever figure out their past profession? Do the girls routinely deliver great sex to their husbands on a frequent and skillfully conscientous level, and is it any better than any of us get from our "good girl" wives and girlfriends? Do the girls turn tricks for extra money well into the marriage? Having a HOT running faithful wife is one thing, but to have a HOT running former pro might be an entirely different thing.

I theorize that most of the pros in MTY that eventually legitimize their lives will deliver sex skillfully to their husbands. But, I believe most of the pros in MTY do not run HOT, and most of them will deliver sex to their husbands out of obligation, with no more than a normal level of female desire and enthusiasm. With respect to their sex lives, their husbands will be no better off than those of us that married "good girls."

The guys that marry the HOT running pros from the clubs, the girls that run hot all the time, will have wives that are unbelievably good bed partners, but I theorize they will be wives that will also be simultaneously screwing around on them constantly. I also think that all of the former pros, whether they run HOT or not, will turn tricks after they legitimize their lives, especially when the money gets tight, and for sure if their children need things.

So, from a purely selfish male perspective, while the HOT pros seem tempting as potentially legitimate partners, sexually, they are probably much more trouble than they would ever ultimately be worth. That's why, from a purely male hypocritical perspective, we are much better off patronizing the HOT pros in MTY, and maintaining our legitimized lives back home.

God bless our sweet, loving, trustworthy, nurturing legitimized wives and girlfriends...they try so hard, but they can never really compete with the pros sexually. But, conversely, the pros can not compete with our legitimized partners emotionally. The way I see it, the balance in my life is maintained by visiting MTY, and my world, as a whole, is at peace.

[Member #3453]

Isn't it interesting to be able to now look back on the "skill set" of your old HOT girlfriend, and to realize that a girl can only develop that range of ability and enthusiasm through significant experience, especially if they are of a young age. I also theorize that many of the pros adopt the life of a pro because they run HOTTTTTTTTTT!!!

I've found that most "good girls," the marrying type, the type that make for good companions, good mothers, faithful wives, etc...do not run HOT like a male, and they are relatively inexperienced sexually, and not typically adventurous sexually. Conversely, my best girls in MTY seemingly have a sexual appetite that almost seems more like that of a male.

But, that having been said, there is a difference between our MTY club girls as well. Some of them are mere actresses. Many of them do not have the horny excessive male "desire" for sex that others of them have. For some, it is all an act. But, there are a few that run HOT all the time, and their desire and enthusiasm is real. That girl I used to see in El Cielo was HOT all the time. Then, there are others that are merely there to provide a service, and some do not seemingly have the inherent "enthusiasm" that only a continually HORNY girl can deliver.

Your HOT ex-girlfriend sounds like she ran HOT all the time, and she was trying to hook you to establish her legitimized lifestyle. That doesn't mean that she did not have legitimized love and affection for you that was sufficient for marriage, but it does mean that you could have been in for some real heartache down the road, especially if in fact she was a former pro.

Most of the club girls we see in MTY willl eventually get married. Most of them start to realize they are losing their youth around age 25, and they will begin to consider the "legitimate" life. The girls will undoubtedly deliver great sex in order to hook a guy to achieve their "legitimate" lives.

I know a club girl in MTY, and real sweetheart too. She confides in me about her hopes and dreams. You want to know the thing that weighs on her mind the most? She is worried that there are no faithful men to be found. Can you believe it? Here is a pro, thinking about legitimizing her life, and she, of all types of girls, having the experience with men that she has, is worried that she won't find a man that will be faithful only to her. The double standard lives, even amoung the pros. Of course, I try to tell her that "I" am faithful to her, but somehow, she does not believe me :-) She once asked me how many women I had been with already in my life, and before I could answer, she blurted out the answer, "Mil" (1000) she asked. I laughed it off, and said, NOOOOOOO!!!!! No muchas, maybe 700-800, no mas.

I have always wondered what becomes of the pros that eventually legitimize their lives. Do they establish a normal "family" life? Do they screw around on their husbands? Do they remain faithful because they value their legitimized lives? Do their husbands ever figure out their past profession? Do the girls routinely deliver great sex to their husbands on a frequent and skillfully conscientous level, and is it any better than any of us get from our "good girl" wives and girlfriends? Do the girls turn tricks for extra money well into the marriage? Having a HOT running faithful wife is one thing, but to have a HOT running former pro might be an entirely different thing.

I theorize that most of the pros in MTY that eventually legitimize their lives will deliver sex skillfully to their husbands. But, I believe most of the pros in MTY do not run HOT, and most of them will deliver sex to their husbands out of obligation, with no more than a normal level of female desire and enthusiasm. With respect to their sex lives, their husbands will be no better off than those of us that married "good girls."

The guys that marry the HOT running pros from the clubs, the girls that run hot all the time, will have wives that are unbelievably good bed partners, but I theorize they will be wives that will also be simultaneously screwing around on them constantly. I also think that all of the former pros, whether they run HOT or not, will turn tricks after they legitimize their lives, especially when the money gets tight, and for sure if their children need things.

So, from a purely selfish male perspective, while the HOT pros seem tempting as potentially legitimate partners, sexually, they are probably much more trouble than they would ever ultimately be worth. That's why, from a purely male hypocritical perspective, we are much better off patronizing the HOT pros in MTY, and maintaining our legitimized lives back home.

God bless our sweet, loving, trustworthy, nurturing legitimized wives and girlfriends...they try so hard, but they can never really compete with the pros sexually. But, conversely, the pros can not compete with our legitimized partners emotionally. The way I see it, the balance in my life is maintained by visiting MTY, and my world, as a whole, is at peace.

I was dating a pro. She worked on me the same way she worked on her clients. Difference is, she was a legitimate girlfriend that I was about to get married to. Wasted

[El Cabron 007]

USB: I dated tons of girls in my younger years. They were all good girls and fall into the category you described. However, there was one special HOT girlfriend that gave me incredible sex. Every ‘single’ night was a wild night. She worked in a department store and got home real late every night (that's where I met her). I either pick her up or buzz her in. I eagerly waited for her every night because I knew I was getting great sex come bedtime. She had the greatest body, petite and sexy and she was very pretty. We were engaged and a wedding date was set. USB, I tell you, she gave me the best sex ever and even when we broke up a couple of times, she would still come over and ask if we can remain friend. Friends with sex. How could I say no? She was better than any of the girls in MTY. Really.

But wait, if you call now ...

Here's the drama: She was from Hawaii. She told me once that Hawaii bars are an easy pick up place. A man and a girl can casually and openly agree to have sex. Little did I know. This was over 20 years ago and I was simply innocent, or call it dumb. I had no clue.

Then an x-girlfriend explained to me ... I still thought she was just jealous.

As luck would have it, I met another girl that came from a good family and I married her instead. She is my lovely wonderful wife.

Years later, I came to understand what those clubs were. Do you get the picture? I was dating a pro. She worked on me the same way she worked on her clients. Difference is, she was a legitimate girlfriend that I was about to get married to.

The only explanation I have as to how could she be so good in bed was exactly what my x-girlfriend told me. She was a prostitute.

So there you have it. You want fantastic sex? get a pro. You want a good life? get a good wife.

Wasted

Regarding potential non-pro action, and specifically with respect to your non-pro contact in MTY, WastedG...

What we get from our best "playmates" in MTY are things we can not get from a legitimate relationship. That's why I always marvel at what we can experience in the club environment compared to anything we can regularly experience within the confines of a legitimate relationship.

We will never quite experience the depth of satisfaction we can experience from "unrestricted" sexual experimentation and variety delivered by experienced sluts that know the real score. That isn't meant to suggest that our wives or girlfriends can't satisfy our needs. They can, and do...but, only according to a certain "controlled" extent. They will never be able to satisfy our needs like our MTY club girls can satisfy our needs. Why?

Most females in legitimate relationships DO NOT have sufficient motivation within the confines of their relationships to cater to the depth of the male need, nor do many of them even have a basic of understanding of the male psyche as it relates to the depth of our needs sexually and sensually.

Because our MTY club girls are "acting" to benefit themselves directly. They know exactly what to do, generally because of the range of their experience, and as result of having serviced so many different men. Many times they know what we want without our even asking. But, I believe they satsify the depth of our desires because they are better equipped and better motivated to do so.

However, take the pro out of the bar, and I venture to speculate that their performance will be the same as all committed men regularly experience from their more conservative wives and girlfriends. So, IMHO, it is the "environment" that provides the catalyst to our being satisfied. Take the girl out of the bar, and you will experience the same thing that all pussy whipped guys experience on a daily basis. That is why the MTY environment is so important a thing.

Plus, if we are looking for 100% fulfillment from a legitimate relationship, it always comes back to this...

Our wives or girlfriends, austensibly "Good Girls," simply don't have the full range of experience dealing with male need, especially if they are living within the sexually repressive culture in the USA. IMHO, our MTY club girls are indoctrinated in a more sensual culture to begin with, and they are, because of their jobs, also more experienced with the whole concept of male need than our wives and girlfriends could ever hope to comprehend.

In addition, our wives and girlfriends don't experience the urgency that our club girls experience with respect to making sure we ARE satisfied. Our wives and girlfriends might get around to trying to satisfy us eventually. Depending on the type and personality of the particular wife or girlfriend, she may make a gallant attempt to provide activity that she believes will result in our desired level of male satisfaction, sometimes out of love and emotion, sometimes with urgency, sometimes with a flare for the slutty, and sometimes only out of obligation. But, unfortunately, when most girls apply a female perspective to the subject of male desire, with no other experience to draw upon, they fall significantly short of the mark. Bless their little hearts for trying, verdad? NO, if they are not true sluts by nature, they don't really have a prayer in competing with our favorite MTY club girls.

If she is a "good girl," she is likely to mistakenly apply a female interpretation of what she believes a male wants. She may not realize that in order to compete with girls like our favoritas in MTY, she must turn into something that she probably views as degrading, a threat to her own ego. Most "good girls" do not comprehend how much we adore a real slutty girl.

If she has always been a "good girl," she may not even understand the male psyche sufficiently to even know where to begin to match the performance of our MTY club girls. That's fine for marrying, or for a legitimate committed relationship, a relationship where you don't have to worry about them running around on you, a relationship where you have a girl you can count on, one you can come home to, but not so great for frequent, intense, sexual, sensual, male fulfillment.

So, your decision not to waste your time on non-pros, WastedG, is a wise one, IMHO. I think you would have been juggling between your reliable MTY club girls, while also attempting to avoid hurting a legitimate "good girl."

That is, of course, assuming she is not a slutty girl herself. Which, in such a case, you probably lost out on a very good time by not cultivating that relationship.

[Member #3453]

Regarding potential non-pro action, and specifically with respect to your non-pro contact in MTY, WastedG...

What we get from our best "playmates" in MTY are things we can not get from a legitimate relationship. That's why I always marvel at what we can experience in the club environment compared to anything we can regularly experience within the confines of a legitimate relationship.

We will never quite experience the depth of satisfaction we can experience from "unrestricted" sexual experimentation and variety delivered by experienced sluts that know the real score. That isn't meant to suggest that our wives or girlfriends can't satisfy our needs. They can, and do...but, only according to a certain "controlled" extent. They will never be able to satisfy our needs like our MTY club girls can satisfy our needs. Why?

Most females in legitimate relationships DO NOT have sufficient motivation within the confines of their relationships to cater to the depth of the male need, nor do many of them even have a basic of understanding of the male psyche as it relates to the depth of our needs sexually and sensually.

Because our MTY club girls are "acting" to benefit themselves directly. They know exactly what to do, generally because of the range of their experience, and as result of having serviced so many different men. Many times they know what we want without our even asking. But, I believe they satsify the depth of our desires because they are better equipped and better motivated to do so.

However, take the pro out of the bar, and I venture to speculate that their performance will be the same as all committed men regularly experience from their more conservative wives and girlfriends. So, IMHO, it is the "environment" that provides the catalyst to our being satisfied. Take the girl out of the bar, and you will experience the same thing that all pussy whipped guys experience on a daily basis. That is why the MTY environment is so important a thing.

Plus, if we are looking for 100% fulfillment from a legitimate relationship, it always comes back to this...

Our wives or girlfriends, austensibly "Good Girls," simply don't have the full range of experience dealing with male need, especially if they are living within the sexually repressive culture in the USA. IMHO, our MTY club girls are indoctrinated in a more sensual culture to begin with, and they are, because of their jobs, also more experienced with the whole concept of male need than our wives and girlfriends could ever hope to comprehend.

In addition, our wives and girlfriends don't experience the urgency that our club girls experience with respect to making sure we ARE satisfied. Our wives and girlfriends might get around to trying to satisfy us eventually. Depending on the type and personality of the particular wife or girlfriend, she may make a gallant attempt to provide activity that she believes will result in our desired level of male satisfaction, sometimes out of love and emotion, sometimes with urgency, sometimes with a flare for the slutty, and sometimes only out of obligation. But, unfortunately, when most girls apply a female perspective to the subject of male desire, with no other experience to draw upon, they fall significantly short of the mark. Bless their little hearts for trying, verdad? NO, if they are not true sluts by nature, they don't really have a prayer in competing with our favorite MTY club girls.

If she is a "good girl," she is likely to mistakenly apply a female interpretation of what she believes a male wants. She may not realize that in order to compete with girls like our favoritas in MTY, she must turn into something that she probably views as degrading, a threat to her own ego. Most "good girls" do not comprehend how much we adore a real slutty girl.

If she has always been a "good girl," she may not even understand the male psyche sufficiently to even know where to begin to match the performance of our MTY club girls. That's fine for marrying, or for a legitimate committed relationship, a relationship where you don't have to worry about them running around on you, a relationship where you have a girl you can count on, one you can come home to, but not so great for frequent, intense, sexual, sensual, male fulfillment.

So, your decision not to waste your time on non-pros, WastedG, is a wise one, IMHO. I think you would have been juggling between your reliable MTY club girls, while also attempting to avoid hurting a legitimate "good girl."

That is, of course, assuming she is not a slutty girl herself. Which, in such a case, you probably lost out on a very good time by not cultivating that relationship.

Share? I think the only girl we have in common was/is "J" from the "I". Although the "B" girl from the "P" place drives me nuts, or is it 'drives my nuts'? Wasted

[El Cabron 007]

Share? Nahhh .. Not your girls. You and I have completely different tastes in girls. As I said before, to each his own. However, if you fancy any of my girls, you're welcome to them. I do not own them. I think the only girl we have in common was/is "J" from the "I". Although the "B" girl from the "P" place drives me nuts, or is it 'drives my nuts'?

The clubs were closing at 10 pm last Sunday. So we were told at the "I" place. I suspect they were not open on Monday either. I am thinking late January or early February for my next trip.

Which reminds me, if you need anything from the U.S., please give me advance notice so I can order ahead. Or 'you' can place the order online and have them delivered to my home address so I can bring it with me. Not too big since I carry a small case that can barely fit my cloths and the mongering equipment.

Wasted

Well... you CAN try... but I don't see success for you.

[MonterreyDude]

Well... you CAN try... but I don't see success for you.

Carlos, you pervert. That was not meant for you. Unless you too are welling to share. ARE YOU?

Wasted

[El Cabron 007]

USB: I have to admit another bad habit: I do not follow advices only to learn that I should've. Although I lecture others to take it from someone who's been there, i still have a hard time following my own advice until I get bitten, sometimes more than once.

As for this HOT HOT HOT girl, I will take things as they come. You might be interested to know that I now put little efforts into the other local non-working girl that I told you about. I call her towards the end of my visit and ask her very simply if she wants to meet me at the dance club, along with 5 other girls. Once she starts to list excuses, I end the conversation by saying "I’ll call you later" but I never do. I have seen her a couple of time but really have no interest in putting too much effort into it.

I do not put any effort into any relationship in MTY. I have walked away from other girls (regulars) for simply asking me about how much am I willing to pay. They all know the standard fee and I will instantly lose interest if they dare to ask for more money. They usually come around and accept instantly.

Same is the case with HOT HOT HOT girl. I love spending time with her and she is the sexiest girl in MTY. But the minute she starts to play games with me, it will be me saying "Call me later" and so far, it is working fine with that non-working girl. Why should I put any extra efforts when I have 15 favorites to choose from and 10 of them that are willing to go home with me in a heart beat? Most ask me before I ask them. Some for an all nighter at no extra charge. They actually feel obligated to fulfill any demands I have. I even throw some of them at Mr. "L" so he too can enjoy what I treasure. This is in no way intended as dumping girls on him but sharing precious ones with a dear friend.

On the opposite side, since Mr. "L" is a stud, in their eyes, they too appreciate it when I let them share my buddy. They all fall head over heals from him. Carlos and I tried many times to tell him all the clubs were closed so he won't come. He is a threat to all of us

In summary, don't worry about me and HOT girl. If she moves, I'll dump her instantly. Meanwhile, I will enjoy her until I have had enough. If she behaves, she is mine until she gets tired of me. Either way, I still have 10 to 15 alternative and they are still adding up. I would be happy just staying at the "I" place. Again, one poor dude was asked to move because he was sitting at one of my favorite tables. Mr. "L" thinks, and I agree, that we get the full VIP treatment at all the clubs we visit.

Someday, I will visit the other clubs we never been too. But only for a few minutes since I am not about to put any efforts into making any new relationships. I have plenty to choose from.

Next time we are in MTY, follow my lead. I'll set you up. I know you're the expert but I still think you can use some of my bold moves. I am not bragging but I have done things that even Carlos was shocked to watch. He believes some of these girls will corner me someday and give me what I deserve. Not sex, but a good beating ...

Wasted

Congratulations on conquering that one. She is HOTTTTTTTTTT!!!! But, of course, you probably had to take NITROGLYCERIN tablets for your heart in addition to all that Viagra you HAVE TO TAKE :-), especially if she stayed with you for 12 hours (hahahah, just joking mi amigo).

So, how does it feel to have a HOTTTTTTT girl, a youngster really, spend 12 hours with you? Actually, I know the feeling quite well, and it's blissful. So you have my sincere congratulations. You have graduated to the head of the class.

But, philosophically, and based on my own experiences, I must comment on what I believe her present psychological state of mind might be. Hopefully, my comments will make some sense. I am speaking from considerable experience, with significant periods of mental anguish in trying to figure them out. I hope that what I say will assist you in your approach as the dynamic changes. And, it will surely begin to change. Watch for it, anticipate it, and you will be better prepared to contend with it.

Remember, in her mind, you now owe her something BIG TIME. She will be expecting special consideration. You will have to deliver if you want to hold onto her for future liasons. Frankly, I warn you to be expecting the scenario to last a relative short period of time, and enjoy it for as long as you can.

I've learned that these girls are really screwed up mentally, and they have a hard time holding it together. The nature of their business causes many of them to fluctuate mentally with respect to their perspectives on life, love, happiness, money, etc... It's kind of "psychological compensation adjustment."

The longer they are in the business, the more their sweetness diminishes, and the more unstable their thought processes seem to be over time, making it very difficult for you to assess their next move, and your next move. It will possibly become more difficult for you to interpret her reactions, and to properly implement your future approach to her in order to maintain your desired outcome. Not because you are any less adept at having the skill, but because her thought processes with respect to "you" will be in the ditzy "female zone."

That's the core of the problem. Once you get them in your bed for todo la noche, especially for as long a time as 12 hours, especially if they are staying for free, or even if they take a huge discount off their normal fee to be with you, you take on a different position in their minds. Once they start to treat you like a real boyfriend, then eventually the scenario deteriorates in much the same manner as what occurred between me and angry girl.

I'm not suggesting there is any "real" relationship between you in the conventional sense, boyfriend/girlfriend. But, make no mistake, a relationship now exists, a relationship with significantly more expectation on her part. A relationship that has it's own set of rules, rules that actually are quite similiar with respect to normal business relationships where honesty, fidelity, loyalty, and patronage are all part of the mix. Whether you know it or not, you are in a very complicated business relationship with her now, one that also has all the pitfalls of a romantic relationship.

IMHO, "HOT Girl" will expect you to give her preferential treatment, whereas before you did not owe her anything. With that one, I expect that she does not usually just give it up to just anyone, not even for money. The way I imagine she looks at it, she gave it up to you, even if you paid her a huge fee. Remember, so many of these girls now look at what they do as something other than "Pay-4-Play." This generation of girls view themselves more like angelic compassionate nurses, and less as prostitutes.

Carlos and I have noticed the change in how the girls of this present generation view themselves. Perhaps the change makes handling them much more complicated than in the past. Ask Carlos about it...he will clarify my comments in detail.

[El Cabron 007]

Carlos, you pervert. That was not meant for you. Unless you too are welling to share. ARE YOU?

Wasted

Please do not worry... I'll take care of all your girls.

[MonterreyDude]

Please do not worry... I'll take care of all your girls.

USB: I was sure I posted a reply to your last post. hmmm..

Anyways, I can recommend a couple for you that will please you to your ultimate satisfaction. Just let me know when. A couple of girls will defiantly give you the GFE you are looking for but you must understand they belong to Wasted. Take them for a spin and kick the tires. If you like the way they drive, take'em home and thank me later. Never tell them I sent you.

My "P" girl is worth all the love you can give her and she will love you in return. She's my local wife there. I'll share.

Then there is this new "B" girl. She's the kind you'd proud to be seen with on Madero. Does not at all look like a working girl. As a matter of fact, she is the most dignified of them all. Carries herself so well and so proud you would think she's a stuck up but will rock your world in bed.

You wanna feel like a pervert? Take my "X" girl. She's like your great grandchild. I call her nina grande and she calls me grand pa. She will get you off on the you way to the hotel. She plays like a shy little girl but will make you scream. Her only flaw is that she tries to milk you for money. Never pay her upfront but do pay her the regular fee.

This other one, you may have to buy her some breast milk. You can not imagine how hot she is if you see her in the club. She is the one of 2 I thought were untouchables.

And finally, the "J", the other "J", not Carlos' "J". The most obedient girl you can find in MTY. Set, stand, roll over, please me ... come, go .. turn around, I love it when I call her over. She runs to me, and just sets waiting for my next instruction. All she wants in return is a music CD. She loves music. Burn her a CD and she will be yours forever.

And if you behave, I'll introduce you to the most precious of them all, she is so precious to me that I will not sleep with her and I will not grope her at the club either. You met her once at the PDA when you said, "Where the hell did you find this one?" She comes to my room unannounced just to be with me but I would not have sex with her. I can't. She's too precious.

All the girls I mentioned above 'are' precious to me. Knowing you, I have no worries about mistreatment. Still, I feel I should remind you to please take care of them the way you would look after a dear friend. The fact that they are working girls still remains, but they are still fragile and can easily be hurt. I have not been mean to any of them and will never, intentionally, do anything to hurt them. I truly love them and care for them in a sense only you and I understand.

My “S” girl is a robot that only I know which buttons to push. I do not think you can handle her.

My “J” girl from the “O” place can be your ultimate GFE. I do not mind but I feel she would. Do not tell her I OK’ed it but feel free to take her.

Wasted

[El Cabron 007]

USB: I was sure I posted a reply to your last post. hmmm..

Anyways, I can recommend a couple for you that will please you to your ultimate satisfaction. Just let me know when. A couple of girls will defiantly give you the GFE you are looking for but you must understand they belong to Wasted. Take them for a spin and kick the tires. If you like the way they drive, take'em home and thank me later. Never tell them I sent you.

My "P" girl is worth all the love you can give her and she will love you in return. She's my local wife there. I'll share.

Then there is this new "B" girl. She's the kind you'd proud to be seen with on Madero. Does not at all look like a working girl. As a matter of fact, she is the most dignified of them all. Carries herself so well and so proud you would think she's a stuck up but will rock your world in bed.

You wanna feel like a pervert? Take my "X" girl. She's like your great grandchild. I call her nina grande and she calls me grand pa. She will get you off on the you way to the hotel. She plays like a shy little girl but will make you scream. Her only flaw is that she tries to milk you for money. Never pay her upfront but do pay her the regular fee.

This other one, you may have to buy her some breast milk. You can not imagine how hot she is if you see her in the club. She is the one of 2 I thought were untouchables.

And finally, the "J", the other "J", not Carlos' "J". The most obedient girl you can find in MTY. Set, stand, roll over, please me ... come, go .. turn around, I love it when I call her over. She runs to me, and just sets waiting for my next instruction. All she wants in return is a music CD. She loves music. Burn her a CD and she will be yours forever.

And if you behave, I'll introduce you to the most precious of them all, she is so precious to me that I will not sleep with her and I will not grope her at the club either. You met her once at the PDA when you said, "Where the hell did you find this one?" She comes to my room unannounced just to be with me but I would not have sex with her. I can't. She's too precious.

All the girls I mentioned above 'are' precious to me. Knowing you, I have no worries about mistreatment. Still, I feel I should remind you to please take care of them the way you would look after a dear friend. The fact that they are working girls still remains, but they are still fragile and can easily be hurt. I have not been mean to any of them and will never, intentionally, do anything to hurt them. I truly love them and care for them in a sense only you and I understand.

My “S” girl is a robot that only I know which buttons to push. I do not think you can handle her.

My “J” girl from the “O” place can be your ultimate GFE. I do not mind but I feel she would. Do not tell her I OK’ed it but feel free to take her.

Wasted

WastedG,

Lately, I can find NO good candidates for bar fining out of the "I" place. Frankly, I am disillusioned with the "I" place these days. The girls are seemingly harder and harder in attitude there.

Frankly, I have noticed a change in the girls in the "I" place over the last several months. The girls seem like they are becoming real hardened pros. Because of that, they are starting to seem more like streetwalkers to me than not. When I start to view them more as streetwalkers, instead of GFE material, they lose all their appeal.

If you know of some decent candidates to bar fine out of the "I" place, let me know because I am running totally out of options there. I have options elsewhere, but the "I" place is taking a real back seat to other clubs lately.

After visiting this last time, I really doubt that there are any girls in the "I" place that would appeal to me. I'm glad you had a great time, but I don't find any there that particularly appeal to me these days. It is getting more and more difficult to find good ones there, IMHO. If you disagree, then let me know who you recommend because I have no viable options there anymore.

I am open minded to the idea of considering other girls in the "I" place, but so far, none have really appealed to me after Angry Girl. And now, even she no longer appeals to me. Fact is, she has become very unappealing lately, and not because she is angry with me, but more because her attitude reflects the new hardened and independent attitude of most girls working in the "I" place lately.

I am finding girls in other clubs that have much better attitudes, are much sweeter, are much more loving, are much more appreciative of my patronage than what I have been finding lately in the "I" place.

I am finding girls elsewhere that are not nearly as "used up" as the girls seem to be in the "I" place. The girls in the "I" place see so much "action" that they are so dry and numb when you get them back to the room. But, as always, I am open minded, and open to being convinced otherwise.

Tell me, whom can you honestly recommend that has not displayed a more independent and hardened attitude, or one that does not show the mileage that the "I" place puts on them in just a very short period of time?

[Member #3453]

WastedG,

Lately, I can find NO good candidates for bar fining out of the "I" place. Frankly, I am disillusioned with the "I" place these days. The girls are seemingly harder and harder in attitude there.

Frankly, I have noticed a change in the girls in the "I" place over the last several months. The girls seem like they are becoming real hardened pros. Because of that, they are starting to seem more like streetwalkers to me than not. When I start to view them more as streetwalkers, instead of GFE material, they lose all their appeal.

If you know of some decent candidates to bar fine out of the "I" place, let me know because I am running totally out of options there. I have options elsewhere, but the "I" place is taking a real back seat to other clubs lately.

After visiting this last time, I really doubt that there are any girls in the "I" place that would appeal to me. I'm glad you had a great time, but I don't find any there that particularly appeal to me these days. It is getting more and more difficult to find good ones there, IMHO. If you disagree, then let me know who you recommend because I have no viable options there anymore.

I am open minded to the idea of considering other girls in the "I" place, but so far, none have really appealed to me after Angry Girl. And now, even she no longer appeals to me. Fact is, she has become very unappealing lately, and not because she is angry with me, but more because her attitude reflects the new hardened and independent attitude of most girls working in the "I" place lately.

I am finding girls in other clubs that have much better attitudes, are much sweeter, are much more loving, are much more appreciative of my patronage than what I have been finding lately in the "I" place.

I am finding girls elsewhere that are not nearly as "used up" as the girls seem to be in the "I" place. The girls in the "I" place see so much "action" that they are so dry and numb when you get them back to the room. But, as always, I am open minded, and open to being convinced otherwise.

Tell me, whom can you honestly recommend that has not displayed a more independent and hardened attitude, or one that does not show the mileage that the "I" place puts on them in just a very short period of time?

Spent 9 days in MTY. This is the longest I have stayed and I initially thought I would get real bored. Heck NO. The 9 days ended so fast I only had an hour to leave one club and pack. It was 4:30 Am and my flight was at 7:30. So I decided I'd miss the flight and, if I cannot get on another, so be it. More time to spend with my lovelies.

I did the usual: Buy them drinks, take'em upstairs, take them home and then take them to dinner and a movie. All were awesome. Not a single disappointment.

The highlights were getting the hottest girl, by chance, while I was at Obsession. I was setting with my regular girl when "Hot girl" that I have not seen in 3 months walks in and smiles at me with shyness. Could that be her? No way. I simply ignored her. Then as I made my way to the restroom, she yells out my name.. Oh my God. It was her. Hot damm. I talked to her a little then went to the bathroom. I was too wasted to even think about her. When I walked back, it hit me again; this is one that would seal the deal for my trips to MTY. I sat with her a little; thinking about how my regular would react, I invited her to set with me anyway. Sure enough, I get the nastiest looks from everyone.

Carlos arrives, late as usual, so she hides her face against my chest to surprise him. His jaws dropped when he saw her. Needless to say, my regular kept pulling me, literally, away from her. Told her to respect the fact hat I am with a friend. She did ... .not.

Hot girl ended up coming over at 10 pm and stayed with me until 10 am the next day. Wasted was a very happy man. Mr. "L" and I stayed up for 2 hours just listening to her talk. She would not shut up and we did not mind. We had no clue what she was saying but we knew it was making fun of my regular girl "He's not your friend, he's my client. Go away. leave him. he's mine ... etc" She did her so well we were cracking up laughing until she finally decided to sleep. Oh yeah, I lent her one of my T-Shirts that she wore the entire time we were just watching her. Mr. "L" though I should've given her a shorter shirt. She is HOT just to l ook at.

What was also interesting is that she invited other girlfriends to come over and have a party in my hotel room. Sure, what the heck. Sounds like fun.... That is until I found out they were coming at 2 AM after leaving a party where they have been drinking already. No thanks. I asked to call and cancel.

Now Carlos had no idea that the one oft he other girls was his girlfriend. He got mad at me. I was again about to ruin another one of his girls.

Here comes the other major event: Friday night, Mr. "L" and I go to a dance club with 4 girls from the "I" place. 3 others from the Prestige were no show. As we were having a great time, I walked down to the restrooms. There was a dressing room along the way with a hot sexy girl getting ready to perform on stage at this club. She sticks her head out and starts to watch me. Then she comes all the way out and calls out my name. What the hell? Who is this? It was America from Prestige. One of my regulars. Hot dam Wasted, Now you know the star of the club?

After hugging and kissing, she tells me she works at this dance club performing. She's tha star there. When she started her show, she looked for me in the crowd. How special is that? She called out my name "while performing". Out of all the people cheering her on, she calls out for Wasted.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. That stage is a little round raised stage in the center of the dance club. To everyone's surprise, including me, Wasted and his "P" girl was dancing on stage. This is the first time Wasted has danced in public in over 20 years.

I cannot describe how great this trip was.

Saturday night, 4 of my regulars were in the line up at the "I" place. I decided I would shock them all. I approach the stage and act like I need to decide which one I want to take up stairs. I pointed to each one then I chose one hot girl I always had my eyes on but I never had the nerves to even say hello to before. All the girls were shocked. What the hell is Wasted doing. Even the girl I picked could not believe I choose her. She gave this big smile, "Me?". She is a keeper with me. I will see her next time.

Then I did it again. Another 19 yo cutie that puts them all to shame. Same game and same shock to all including Mr, "L". What surprised me was how she carried herself on the floor. So arrogant and impossible to talk to. But she too gave me the sweetest smile when I picked her. "Me?" The surprise for me was how sweet and innocent she was. Just like a shy bride on her wedding night. With braces ... She too is in my book now.

Now I have over 9 regulars. I think I have more than enough.

USB, Carlos: Watch your steps next time you go to the "I" place. The next one you pick could be mine.

Wasted