Racism against foreigners in Thailand

[ShawMan74]

I've been there brother, I am a South Indian and to be frank I feel embarrassed to be an Indian travelling to foreign countries because of all the nonsense standards set by our fellow countrymen.

lets clear up our horrendous reputation one step at a time.

All the posts on this page about Indians facing racism is true.

Saying all that, though this racism towards Indian is earned by themselves, but if you're Indian, don't get discouraged. Act like a nice person, smell good, don't be a chap-tat and you will have a good time.

I completely concur with both of you guys. Its been my personal experience as well. Is thailand racist AF against indians? You bet. But when you see the way indians behave in thailand you completely understand why. Its disgusting. And embarrassing. And it makes it that much harder for the rest of us, in a world that's already god-damn hard.

Every. Single. Customer in line is indian, they are 30-40 desis queued up at any given soapy during any given time of day. They all look the same, like an even hairier, uglier, and more out of shape non-union equivalent of ron jeremy, with dandruff. And stinking like yesterday's sh*t. And we still have the temerity to blame the thai for their feelings towards us after having put up with our BS as neighbors for the better part of a century now. For shame.

[Gargano19]

All the posts on this page about Indians facing racism is true.

Saying that, I am an Indian, expat in BKK. I never had any problem with any girls ever. Because I treat them like a professional. Many people think if they are paying her, means they can treat her like trash. That's just plain disgusting.

Every WG I met, has been keen to meet again. Why? I have been nice in bed with her, never forced anything, gave a good tip, and smelled good.

As a Indian, some might be surprised, I avoid some Indian restaurants. Because of reasons mentioned below, they sit in group and make so much noise. Though, honestly, they also can be from Bangladesh or middle east.

Regarding asking for low price, that's just stupid. But few days back I saw a farang asking a girl for 2 hours for 500. She agreed. Now, there are two things, it's fine if you asked for such a low price, but if girl said no, just leave. Don't force her. And for God's sake, don't ask her, "how much for all of us".

Saying all that, though this racism towards Indian is earned by themselves, but if you're Indian, don't get discouraged. Act like a nice person, smell good, don't be a chap-tat and you will have a good time.

[Member #4628]

Unfortunately, Indians overall will carry this stigma. Until some other ethnicity replaces Indians as the cheap folks.

I've been there brother, I am a South Indian and to be frank I feel embarrassed to be an Indian travelling to foreign countries because of all the nonsense standards set by our fellow countrymen. I've been to Thailand 8 times till now and seen why Indians are treated like rubbish. All the things you mentioned are very true, I've seen Indians going in groups to a freelancer and arguing / demanding to do the deed for 500 bhat (WHF) and if the girl politely refuses they start raising their voice ultimately forcing the girl to run away. In one scenario the girl had to call the cops because the situation was escalated with the Indian being drunk and harassing the girl and he evidently slapped her. This took place in beach road Pattaya and they were taken to the station for further questioning. Why can't they understand that they are not in their homeland and should never get in trouble with the locals.

They talk very loud in public transport, if you are ever on a bus from Mo Chit to Pattaya, you can observe that the majority of noise caused will be Indians. They do not respect queues anywhere, I was waiting patiently in line like everybody else for my VOA and I was cut off by 3 idiots thinking they could get away but they were caught by the security and everyone had to witness them being shamed for cutting line and evidently causing our Indian reputation to deplete. They actually had the never to argue they were not cutting the line after being caught.

Regarding the odor, Indians need to practice wearing perfume vigorously. I carry small perfume bottles and I drain like 4 vials at the end of every trip, its not hard to enforce this in our daily routine. Dressing sense, odor and good behavior go a long way in how Thai's treat Indians, I was let into a gogo just because I wore perfume, that was insane.

I don't think any other ethnicity will be able to beat our Indian track record, even if they do they will never be highlighted as much as Indians.

To all my fellow Indians, due to a few morons the rest of us are feeling the heat. My only request is to behave yourself in any country you travel, the same way you behave when you are attending a job interview. Respect everyone and lets clear up our horrendous reputation one step at a time.

[Solo Traveler]

It's not only about literal words or superficial meanings.

It's also about their origin.

Do you know where the Asian genital stereotype / joke was from?

The whole story was like this:

In the past, some scientists made a (racist) study.

African people (the so-called Black people) have smaller brains and bigger genitals. It means they may be good athletes, but they have a flaw of not being intelligent enough.

Asian people have bigger brains and smaller genitals. It means they may be good professors, but they have a flaw of not being sexually productive enough.

European people (the so-called White people) have medium brains and medium genitals. It means they are the best race which finds a perfect balance between the size of brains and genitals. They can do anything better than other races, because they are flawless.

So, every time someone says "Blacks have bigger genitals", it also implies "Blacks have smaller brains", which is not a compliment at all.

Saying "Asians have smaller genitals" also implies that Asians have a flaw, so they are not as good as Whites.

Either way, they all implies that the White race is the best race, and other races have flaws in them.

This was the origin of the whole story of the genital stereotype / joke.

So, is it racist or not?

I'm not sure, because nowadays, once a person speaks out "Hey, this is racist, this is wrong! Some people will counterattack right away by saying "No, it's not racist. It's just a neutral statement or a fact. You're over-sensitive."

[SlowAndEasy]

You are absolutely right. They say that to westerners to make them feel good. No other explanation needed.

There have been quite a few studies about the size of male penis by race. The research seems to support that black men generally have the largest cocks, and Asians have the smallest.

As far as girls liking Asians, it is most likely a combination of many things. Generally:

1. People tend to feel more comfortable with people.

Who look like them. Asians prefer.

2. Maybe the Koreans and Chinese spend more.

3. Maybe the Koreans / Chinese are less demanding.

4. Maybe the Koreans / Chinese finish faster.

5. Size. Not penis size, but height and weight.

While there are some girls who love having.

A guy who is 1 foot taller and 150 lbs heavier.

Pound her. I think most girls prefer the smaller.

Younger guys. In the US, I am average height.

And barely 175 lbs. I spent a few months in.

Northern China with an ex girlfriend and her.

Family and most places we went, I was one.

Of the tallest.

http://www.penissizes.org/average-pe...ce-and-country

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[Solo Traveler]

You are absolutely right. They say that to westerners to make them feel good. No other explanation needed.

What's worse, Western Racism (against East / South-East Asians) also exists in Thailand.

I'm a so-called banana, by the way. (A Westerner who looks East Asian / A White man with an East Asian face. Okay, whatever.).

I was sitting at a bar, chatting with a Thai lady. (In English).

She casually referred to a group of customers behind us as the "racial slur".

I immediately asked her to stop using that word, and explain to her that the "racial slur" she just said, was created and used specifically to demean East / South-East Asian people like you and I in the English language.

She then told me it was some mid-aged American / Canadian customer who taught her the word. (Well, no freaking surprise, actually, as the racial slur was just publicly used against NBA star Jeremy Lin in 2012.).

Of course, she didn't know any better.

It was the man teaching her the word who got a problem.

It's 2018 right now, folks.

Thankfully, the younger generation no longer casually call me racial slurs when I live in Western English-speaking countries.

[AlphaPunk2]

Does a 180 cm hefty Japanese man have a smaller dick than a 170 cm thin White man? I don't think so.

Resorting it to the same old Japanese dicks' joke is just easier for the girls' to excuse their greed and laziness.

It's pay sex, in which money matters most. Unless the dick is so unnaturally big that it may hurt their pussies, penis size is not even a consideration they take into account.

They prefer Japanese because, in the main, Japanese splash money easily and are not demanding (usually just suck, fuck, and then leave).

And note that being fast with sex has no correlation to dick size, either.

The girls earn more money in even shorter period, so of course they love Japanese more than others.

The girls shorten and generalize the whole idea above into "Because their dicks are smaller. " and they also know this joke will make white men feel good, so why not.

You are absolutely right. They say that to westerners to make them feel good. No other explanation needed.

[CaptJack555]

In speaking with many Thai girls they joke about liking Japanese men for 3 reasons.

They are willing to pay 3 times as much.

They have a 3 inch cock.

They finish in 3 minutes.

True story.

[Solo Traveler]

I can not answer to wether Thai girls are going to be predjudice against an Indian guy but as a white American, I got turned away some in Nana Plaza but never in Soi Cowboy, and I was told by a Thai girl there that they prefer the Japanese and Chinese because they have small penis.

Does a 180 cm hefty Japanese man have a smaller dick than a 170 cm thin White man? I don't think so.

Resorting it to the same old Japanese dicks' joke is just easier for the girls' to excuse their greed and laziness.

It's pay sex, in which money matters most. Unless the dick is so unnaturally big that it may hurt their pussies, penis size is not even a consideration they take into account.

They prefer Japanese because, in the main, Japanese splash money easily and are not demanding (usually just suck, fuck, and then leave).

And note that being fast with sex has no correlation to dick size, either.

The girls earn more money in even shorter period, so of course they love Japanese more than others.

The girls shorten and generalize the whole idea above into "Because their dicks are smaller. " and they also know this joke will make white men feel good, so why not.

[MackRakow]

I am an American of Indian ethnicity and having mongered globally over the years. I will have to say that Indians do get treated differently in Thailand. However, it is definitely not a racist thing IMHO. It is primarily because of the impressions that most Indians leave behind when they visit places.

Majority of Indians (from India I will add) have this herd mentality. They show up in groups of 4 or more, walk around places as if they own it and hunt in groups. This I am pretty sure confuses the P4P girls as to who should they really target?

Second, they show lack of class by occupying space in gogo or beer bars and not spending money or if spending money splitting a coke or beer between groups etc. Just el- cheap behavior.

Let's face it- everyone gets turned off by body odor and my Indian brethren (even the ones that work in IT and make easily 3000 USD a month on India) just don't get this. Using perfumes ALONE is not enough people. Use the darn deodrants and just use some decent brand like Right Guard or Old spice. Net / Net please keep the BO away...

I have been to Bangkok thrice in past two years and, thankfully, did not face this problem even once. But the girls did mention their dislike for Indians giving me exactly the same reason that you have written in your post however, they said that I was different. In fact few girls tried very hard to convince me to take them after giving me all the reasons for they not choosing Indian men! At that time I felt they were doing this to just promote themselves as exclusive indulgences and thereby increase the charges / fine / tips. Let me also clarify that I have a traditional Indian wheat-ish complexion. What I feel after my experience and reading your posts is that the girls look at lot of factors that would get them easy money. It also depends on the demand for the girls at the time you visit them.

Mkw

[BennLee]

I can not answer to wether Thai girls are going to be predjudice against an Indian guy but as a white American, I got turned away some in Nana Plaza but never in Soi Cowboy, and I was told by a Thai girl there that they prefer the Japanese and Chinese because they have small penis. That said, I think there arel always more woman than men and they want the money so I doubt you leave alone. I can tell that most people say that Pattaya is the budget sex tour with many a cheap girl friendly hotel. I never been. I have been to Bangkok.

Now the other option you mentioned was visiting Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza in Bangkok on your own and this I have done. You don't need a tour. I stayed at the Majestic Grande Hotel which sits on Sukhumvit 2 Alley about 275 meters south of Sukhumvit Road (Sukhumvit Road is a important street because Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy are both right off Sukhumvit Road, as are many hotels and embassies in this area) The Majestic Grande is actually a nice hotel but most are in this area and it is not Cheapest but it is reasonable ($75 US dollars includes breakfast) and it is girl friendly. Annies Message is just across the street (with Beautiful Women!) Nana Plaza is a short walk (250 meters) and Soi Cowboy is a short taxi ride away (always make sure the taxi is using a meter, just look them full in the eyes and say "Meter?" and make them point to it! I also used my phone to track the GPS so I knew when they were going to far off course!

Though I live in Korea, but some time I face this issue as well. Few time I went to the room, and undressed before woman, and when they saw my dick they said it is big. So they returned the money. I think it hurts them, that's why I no more undress before girl.

[Cool]

I know you are talking about women, but does a Black man have problems in Thailand getting the women? Isn't the money just green and that's all that matters?

There may be less problems in LOS for black men than Philippines even though the Philippines is better but more dangerous. How appealing are you to women back home? How do Asian women view you back home? If you are smooth you will land freebies. Bangers has a sizable middle east and African expat community so they are familiar with dark skin foreigners. You could try dating sites or tagged to get feedback. You will be OK in LOS. I find disco free lancers more choosy than FL that hang on streets or go go girls.

[Cool]

I don't know if some Indians are really treated unfairly in Thailand.

But I have heard about it, and if it is true why do you want to go there?

Those bastards don't deserve your time and money.

Avoid bad energy and negative karma.

Just have fun with nice people somewhere else..

Good point! Unless of course they luck up and the trip is company paid.

[Cool]

I can not answer to wether Thai girls are going to be predjudice against an Indian guy but as a white American, I got turned away some in Nana Plaza but never in Soi Cowboy, and I was told by a Thai girl there that they prefer the Japanese and Chinese because they have small penis. That said, I think there arel always more woman than men and they want the money so I doubt you leave alone. I can tell that most people say that Pattaya is the budget sex tour with many a cheap girl friendly hotel. I never been. I have been to Bangkok.

Now the other option you mentioned was visiting Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza in Bangkok on your own and this I have done. You don't need a tour. I stayed at the Majestic Grande Hotel which sits on Sukhumvit 2 Alley about 275 meters south of Sukhumvit Road (Sukhumvit Road is a important street because Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy are both right off Sukhumvit Road, as are many hotels and embassies in this area) The Majestic Grande is actually a nice hotel but most are in this area and it is not Cheapest but it is reasonable ($75 US dollars includes breakfast) and it is girl friendly. Annies Message is just across the street (with Beautiful Women!) Nana Plaza is a short walk (250 meters) and Soi Cowboy is a short taxi ride away (always make sure the taxi is using a meter, just look them full in the eyes and say "Meter?" and make them point to it! I also used my phone to track the GPS so I knew when they were going to far off course!

If you don't want to deal with rogue taxis or traffic you can take the Nana BTS Skytrain. It is safe even though it gets packed at peak times. Inexpensive and fast.

[KrisMonger]

I am an American of Indian ethnicity and having mongered globally over the years. I will have to say that Indians do get treated differently in Thailand. However, it is definitely not a racist thing IMHO. It is primarily because of the impressions that most Indians leave behind when they visit places.

Majority of Indians (from India I will add) have this herd mentality. They show up in groups of 4 or more, walk around places as if they own it and hunt in groups. This I am pretty sure confuses the P4P girls as to who should they really target?

Second, they show lack of class by occupying space in gogo or beer bars and not spending money or if spending money splitting a coke or beer between groups etc. Just el- cheap behavior.

Let's face it- everyone gets turned off by body odor and my Indian brethren (even the ones that work in IT and make easily 3000 USD a month on India) just don't get this. Using perfumes ALONE is not enough people. Use the darn deodrants and just use some decent brand like Right Guard or Old spice. Net / Net please keep the BO away.

Finally, the bargaining aspect of Indians. I have reason to believe that this happens only with some real cheap buggers that show up from India (because Thai ran a promo for a less than 200 USD ticket round-trip) thinking that they are going to score every single night by spending less than 1000 baht. Furthermore, these are the same guys that treat women in general disrespectfully and just handle women roughly.

On my trips to Pattaya and BKK- I have been on occasions stopped from entering a bar mainly because of this categorization. Usually, when I talk to them, they understand that I am not from India and let me in. I always go have a drink or two -whether I select or not and folks are generally fine if you are spending.

Unfortunately, Indians overall will carry this stigma. Until some other ethnicity replaces Indians as the cheap folks.

Kris