Racism against foreigners in Thailand

[Satrai2000]

The impression you and some others here are presenting (or strongly trying too)is pretty obvious. I’ve never before encountered so many that wanted so badly to be the porridge that Goldilocks chose.

That the Thais may be telling you what they think you might want to here kind of fits with what has been said before here about Thais being so outwardly "friendly" and seemingly amicable to a persons face despite whatever they feel otherwise. Some have said similar things to me about whites when none are around.

The majority of the posts regarding this subject just seems like more generalizing and projecting. I have Thai friends too, not to mention several business acquaintances, and not to burst any of your bubbles; but lets just say that when you get a group of non white people of different ethnicities together (black, asian, Hispanic, middle eastern, etc) the conversation is a bit more "free" than it normally would be than when whites are present. Trust me, there are some things that non white men and women of any ethnicity have in common. Some things talked about that you all just really don’t want to know that sometimes lead to bonding, ie- from my personal experience, many thais know that many whites don’t consider them as equal (I can kind of see why; some of you talk about them as if they are a race of children who need your care and guidance) but can usually only speak amongst themselves about it but I’ve found that it doesn’t take much for them to express this sentiment to other people of color.

Now, I mentioned before that I noticed that Thais have a bias against each other regarding skin tone but to suggest and rationalize that they would project that bias onto other ethnicities for the same reasons is somewhat a short-sighted theory. A light skinned Thai is not judging a dark skinned American as working in the fields or poor especially in this day and age when they are all too well aware that the average black American or brit who bothers to travel there more than likely makes in a year more money than what the average Thai will make in their lives.

That being said I submit that the same rationale you all apply to Thais’ view of other dark skinned ethnicities also applies to Thais view of whites; that the Thai who date and marry them are varying from what I surmise is the most commonly held view of Thais marrying only Thais and that the Thai women who are attracted to whites is mainly because of the white "heroes in action movies and the like that are seen everywhere" (not *gasp* because they actually like the guy). While I acknowledge that cross section of the Thai population exists that would prefer only whites to anything else, I would maintain (pretty strongly in fact) that segment isn't a huge one.

What strikes me as odd is that for some strange reason, you and some others here seem very intent on stating what races Thais do and don’t like despite the fact that none of you are Thai. That last paragraph is especially telling in that you are simply projecting your own bias’ against Indian people. For whatever reasons, I can only guess but I do have a theory or two in mind and I would wager that I’m not too far off the racist mark.

Does the idea that Thais might not really care about what type of Farang they would care to be with, or that many would prefer to not be with whites at all really bother you all and if so, why?

Anyway, I have another business trip planned for Jan and I plan on providing a thorough "education" to many of the Thai women I am already set up to meet. Who knows, since they are apparently paying to sleep with black men, maybe I can make a little cash on this trip. http://www.msuspokesman.com/media/pa...s-318113.shtml

You are absolutely right. Especially your statement about Asian-Indians. I (as a South-Asian) have only experienced racism from white Europeans and never from any Asian person at all.

[Satrai2000]

I experieced racism in Thailand from (drunk) Britons, calling me "fucking Indian" and "Paki" and "curry-eater".

Sad to say but I think there are quite a lot European racist tourists visiting Thailand. Many of them are not interested in Thailand and its culture itself, only in getting their dick sucked in a cheap way by the local girls, which they call "brown bitches", "asian fuckers" and things like that.
Note: I do NOT state that all European tourists are like that, but unfortunately there are some.

I never experienced racism from the local people. Why should they. Of course there are South-Asian assholes visiting Thailand but that does not mean that all people from there have bad manners, bad odour, don't shower, are ugly, etc.

Some facts :

1. Indians, in particular the Sikhs, belong the the richest communities in Bangkok;
2. Thai religion and culture is very much Indian;
3. Thai language has many Sanskrit words in it;
4. Thai script is derived from a South-Indian script;
5. Thai genes have input from Indian genes.

So a Thai must be very dumb to consider India or Indians as the bottom of the barrel.
And to be honest: I never experienced racism or things like that from Thai.

[SirHumpsaLott]

Always nice to get some different points of view.

I'm white, so, I suppose it is inevitable that my opinions are going to be tainted by that. Not necessarily from any pre-conceptions of my own (although that's possible as well), but, because I am shown what people expect me to want to see. The implication in your message is that (being white) I might be predisposed to the idea of Thai's being more attracted to whites than blacks (actually, a more accurate statement might be less repulsed by whites than blacks, but I'll get there shortly).

Now, as I mentioned, the Thais that I meet may want me to think they like me (and my 'kind') more than blacks, so, they present that point of view to me, and, I come away thinking that that is their point of view. I say it is possible, but I don't think it is likely, and here is why:

1) I've formed a few deep and abiding friendships with some Thai's over the years. They've been to visit me in various parts of the world etc etc. Almost to the last man, they've viewed blacks as inferior. This attitude is diluted heavily with education. It also seems to fade away for expat Thais. My point here is, amongst my Thai friends, it is pretty much taken as a given that the Thai's are an incredibly racist bunch (and this may or may not be a bad thing. Whether it is or not is a subject of great debate), and, that Thai's generally don't like blacks. They don't like whites much either, but blacks are definitely a couple of rungs down the ladder.

2) Anthropologically it makes sense that they'd put whitey a cut above. The people from the poorest part of Thailand (Isaan) are also the darkest. Dark skin is associated with working in the fields (and therefore poverty). For these reasons dark skin is considered undesirable and millions upon millions are spent on skin whitening products. It is the same deal as here in the west, if you have money, you have time to lie around in the sun, so a tan is desirable. We spend millions on tanning products.

Now, all that being said, there's always a segment of the population that varies from the most commonly held view. You've mentioned them in your post. I've certainly heard of middle aged Japanese women hiring big studly black men (although I've never seen it). I think the higher standards of education in Japan and Korea probably have a lot to do with that, not to mention black heroes in action movies and the like that are seen everywhere. While I happily acknowledge that cross section of the Thai population exists that would prefer blacks to whites, I would maintain (pretty strongly in fact) that that segment isn't a huge one.

As a final point, it is worth noting that the Thais consider the Indian's to be the absolute bottom of the barrel. My guess is it is because they've seen plenty of poor Indians around the place (there's a heap in Phuket trying to flog stuff in the markets). Rarely have they seen any poor blacks (the only blacks I've ever seen in Thailand have been wealthy enough to go there on holiday), so, they're considered in a kinder light than the Indians.

The impression you and some others here are presenting (or strongly trying too)is pretty obvious. I’ve never before encountered so many that wanted so badly to be the porridge that Goldilocks chose.

That the Thais may be telling you what they think you might want to here kind of fits with what has been said before here about Thais being so outwardly "friendly" and seemingly amicable to a persons face despite whatever they feel otherwise. Some have said similar things to me about whites when none are around.

The majority of the posts regarding this subject just seems like more generalizing and projecting. I have Thai friends too, not to mention several business acquaintances, and not to burst any of your bubbles; but lets just say that when you get a group of non white people of different ethnicities together (black, asian, Hispanic, middle eastern, etc) the conversation is a bit more "free" than it normally would be than when whites are present. Trust me, there are some things that non white men and women of any ethnicity have in common. Some things talked about that you all just really don’t want to know that sometimes lead to bonding, ie- from my personal experience, many thais know that many whites don’t consider them as equal (I can kind of see why; some of you talk about them as if they are a race of children who need your care and guidance) but can usually only speak amongst themselves about it but I’ve found that it doesn’t take much for them to express this sentiment to other people of color.

Now, I mentioned before that I noticed that Thais have a bias against each other regarding skin tone but to suggest and rationalize that they would project that bias onto other ethnicities for the same reasons is somewhat a short-sighted theory. A light skinned Thai is not judging a dark skinned American as working in the fields or poor especially in this day and age when they are all too well aware that the average black American or brit who bothers to travel there more than likely makes in a year more money than what the average Thai will make in their lives.

That being said I submit that the same rationale you all apply to Thais’ view of other dark skinned ethnicities also applies to Thais view of whites; that the Thai who date and marry them are varying from what I surmise is the most commonly held view of Thais marrying only Thais and that the Thai women who are attracted to whites is mainly because of the white "heroes in action movies and the like that are seen everywhere" (not *gasp* because they actually like the guy). While I acknowledge that cross section of the Thai population exists that would prefer only whites to anything else, I would maintain (pretty strongly in fact) that segment isn't a huge one.

What strikes me as odd is that for some strange reason, you and some others here seem very intent on stating what races Thais do and don’t like despite the fact that none of you are Thai. That last paragraph is especially telling in that you are simply projecting your own bias’ against Indian people. For whatever reasons, I can only guess but I do have a theory or two in mind and I would wager that I’m not too far off the racist mark.

Does the idea that Thais might not really care about what type of Farang they would care to be with, or that many would prefer to not be with whites at all really bother you all and if so, why?

Anyway, I have another business trip planned for Jan and I plan on providing a thorough "education" to many of the Thai women I am already set up to meet. Who knows, since they are apparently paying to sleep with black men, maybe I can make a little cash on this trip. http://www.msuspokesman.com/media/pa...s-318113.shtml

[Old Thai Hand]

Sanook D

Very well thought out and written. I couldn't agree more.

[Joe Nailer]

I spent many years there also.

Thai women are all about money.

If you give good wallet, they like you.

Its not the color of your skin, its the color of your money.

You would have to pay me to go back to Thailand and deal with Thai women. They kind of disgust me now with their aggresive money obsession.

Then I bet you haven't seen the Vietnamese women yet.

[Sanook D]

I think that racism is not quite the proper term. Xenophobia is much more accurate. Thais are xenophobic.

I agree, and think this applies everywhere in Asia, and to humanity in general. I see racism as a doctrinaire, ideological subset of xenophobia, and frankly I don't think most Thais give all that much thought to it- mostly it's a case of "We don't like them people what's different from us, " and the more different, the worse. I could imagine such doctrinaire racism developing here someday- Phibun took a crack at it, I think, against the Chinese, and it would go along well with the fascist/authoritarian streak that appears pretty regularly in Thais; it's hard to miss, being about a mile wide. ("Shoot all the drug dealers! " "Yeah, kill 'them all, let Buddha sort 'them out. " Another very popular Thaksin program.) As it is, though, I don't see the apparent racism as being all that well thought out, so to speak, or systematic.

I do think there is a de facto social apartheid in play here right now, mainly brought about by the dominance of ethnic Chinese of the urban professional class- in general, dark skin means labor or service, white skin means office worker/doctor/professional. It's kind of hard to miss. Still, I don't see it so much as racism as simply a convenient, if contemptible, way of identifying class (skin color not necessarily being a differentiating factor in race, which in a biological sense is none too easy to define as it is).

The deeply hierarchical social outlook of the Thais is also a factor; this is a society in which one has few social equals (in terms of social order, and accordingly in the eyes of the law or any other sense). The failures of the west, and the resulting loss of respect for western culture, business, and values in comparison first with Japan and now with China, has resulted in the Thais thinking not that we might be equals, but rather that we might be inferior (and not just karmically)- or at least that we have fallen. Naturally, this is a perception that could under the right circumstances be reversed.

I often hear farangs lament that "the Thais used to like us so much, but not anymore". It makes me want to remark that they were just pretending to like us- but by the same token, they could be just pretending not to like us now (I refer here to your average Pornchai on the street). By which I mean, I don't think they are for the most part thinking about it all that deeply, but are more than likely just reacting without much reflection to the most recent stimuli dished out by the government propaganda machine and the mass media.

[Old Thai Hand]

Rarely have they seen any poor blacks (the only blacks I've ever seen in Thailand have been wealthy enough to go there on holiday), so, they're considered in a kinder light than the Indians.

I agree with everything you say, except that you forget the very real presence of Africans (Nigerians, especially) in Thailand, particularly in BKK, who are feared by Thais and with good reason. There have been a number a well publicized stories over the years, all involving Nigerian scams, drug-dealing and various other shadowy activities. The Thais are able to differentiate between these and well-healed Western blacks. But, then the other bias that exists, contrary to SirHump's assertion is a fear of the reputation of black men having big dicks and being studs. While there might be a very small segment of Thai women who might find this fascinating, most Thai women would be terrified.

I agree with NicFrenchy that most Thai women generally still prefer Thai men. I also agree that many poorer Thai women (shopgirls, secretaries etc.) go after Farang, while maintaining a couple of young Thai gigs on the side. However, in my 11 years here, I've seen the bias change a lot with more and more Thai women opting for Non-Thai men. Thailand has become more international and more young middle and upper-class Thai women are exposed to Farang every day in the workplace and at schools. Since I teach in international programs at Thai universities, I see this first hand every day. As my students are all well-off if not filthy rich, money certainly isn't the attraction. Yet, every semester I see more of my female students dating foreign students, and even teachers.

I think that racism is not quite the proper term. Xenophobia is much more accurate. Thais are xenophobic, and combine childlike curiosity with a healthy dose of suspicion and fear of any foreigners with whom they aren't familiar. So it goes throughout Asia. Thais see themselves as superior (why, is beyond me) to anyone else in the world. Most are quite content in their own little Thai world and have no interest in being anywhere else.

While people can continually debate this, I think it is pretty well established that Thais are not all that accepting of anyone outside of their own milieu.

To put it simply the pecking order is probably as follows:

1/ Thais versus....

2/ Everyone else

a/ Japanese and Koreans
b/ Chinese
c/ Vietnamese
b/ Lao
c/ Cambodians and Burmese (both are hated by the Thais)
d/ Farang
e/ Western Blacks
f/ Africans
g/ Kaek
i/ Arabs
ii/Indians

It should be pointed out that true racism does exist within the country with Thailand being culturally and ethnically an extremely segmented country. If you want to hear Thais truly bad-mouth someone, get them talking about Thais from other parts of the country.

[Tiger 888]

I spent many years there also.

Thai women are all about money.

If you give good wallet, they like you.

Its not the color of your skin, its the color of your money.

You would have to pay me to go back to Thailand and deal with Thai women. They kind of disgust me now with their aggresive money obsession.

Then I bet you haven't seen the Filipinas yet.

[Vandaddio]

I spent many years there also.

Thai women are all about money.

If you give good wallet, they like you.

Its not the color of your skin, its the color of your money.

You would have to pay me to go back to Thailand and deal with Thai women. They kind of disgust me now with their aggresive money obsession.

[Blunderer]

Always nice to get some different points of view.

I'm white, so, I suppose it is inevitable that my opinions are going to be tainted by that - not necessarily from any pre-conceptions of my own (although that's possible as well), but, because I am shown what people expect me to want to see. The implication in your message is that (being white) I might be predisposed to the idea of Thai's being more attracted to whites than blacks (actually, a more accurate statement might be less repulsed by whites than blacks, but I'll get there shortly).

Now, as I mentioned, the Thais that I meet may want me to think they like me (and my 'kind') more than blacks, so, they present that point of view to me, and, I come away thinking that that is their point of view. I say it is possible, but I don't think it is likely, and here is why:

1) I've formed a few deep and abiding friendships with some Thai's over the years. They've been to visit me in various parts of the world etc etc. Almost to the last man, they've viewed blacks as inferior. This attitude is diluted heavily with education - it also seems to fade away for expat Thais. My point here is, amongst my Thai friends, it is pretty much taken as a given that the Thai's are an incredibly racist bunch (and this may or may not be a bad thing - whether it is or not is a subject of great debate), and, that Thai's generally don't like blacks. They don't like whites much either, but blacks are definitely a couple of rungs down the ladder.

2) Anthropologically it makes sense that they'd put whitey a cut above. The people from the poorest part of Thailand (Isaan) are also the darkest. Dark skin is associated with working in the fields (and therefore poverty). For these reasons dark skin is considered undesirable and millions upon millions are spent on skin whitening products. It is the same deal as here in the west, if you have money, you have time to lie around in the sun, so a tan is desirable - we spend millions on tanning products.

Now, all that being said, there's always a segment of the population that varies from the most commonly held view. You've mentioned them in your post - I've certainly heard of middle aged Japanese women hiring big studly black men (although I've never seen it). I think the higher standards of education in Japan and Korea probably have a lot to do with that, not to mention black heroes in action movies and the like that are seen everywhere. While I happily acknowledge that cross section of the Thai population exists that would prefer blacks to whites, I would maintain (pretty strongly in fact) that that segment isn't a huge one.

As a final point, it is worth noting that the Thais consider the Indian's to be the absolute bottom of the barrel. My guess is it is because they've seen plenty of poor Indians around the place (there's a heap in Phuket trying to flog stuff in the markets). Rarely have they seen any poor blacks (the only blacks I've ever seen in Thailand have been wealthy enough to go there on holiday), so, they're considered in a kinder light than the Indians.

[NicFrenchy]

They also prefer guys that are handsome and rich.

Please leave me out of this LOL.

On a more serious note, I am young, not so ugly and I have a job that pays me quite well. Yes, I have a lot of opportunities, everywhere I go to get dates with Thai women (I actually took the chance a few times, which I will write reports on some) but it is my experience (however very short: 3 years) that Thai women tend to prefer Younger Thai men.

Yes, a lot of girls go with us foreigners (sometimes just to "try") and a lot of them actually likes Foreigners because we treat them with respect (in most cases) BUT, I can speak for a few girls in my office, who are married to Older Farangs and tell whoever wants to hear about their 3 or 4 younger Thai Boyfriends on the side. The Farang Husband is their Bank. One girls actually admitted she was waiting for her Husband to pass away so she could inherit.

Thailand is complicated and it will take me another 10 years to even begin to understand Thais, if ever.

[SirHumpsaLott]

Racism is huge in Thailand and Thai girls do prefer johns with lighter skin. Been here long time and can say that this is fact. They also prefer guys that are handsome and rich. Do they always get this combo? Of course not. Will they go with a guy that is dark? Yes, but if it's a choice between a colored man and a white skinned man of equal looks and status, they will choose the white skinned guy 9 times out of ten. This is fact. Is it racism? Who cares. I see plenty of dark skinned guys getting tail especially in pattaya where the girls fuck anything that walks. A previous poster mentioned that hygenie and dress are important and this is certainly true. However, in a land that is obsessed with whitening their skin and idolizing white skin people from thai pop culture, it would be foolish to say that they are not concerned about skin color. Seen black guys clean house in Japan, but never in Thailand. That doesn't mean you cant' get action here. If you got a pulse you can get laid in thailand. You may not have the whole market open to you, but you'll still have plenty to chose from. Play hard and bang hard.

And yet for everyone of you guys on sites like this that claim this supposed fact of Thai life, it’s never been proven true from any of my first hand personal experiences in Thailand or anywhere else although granted there may be some sort of bias amongst thai community regarding darker/lighter skin thais. Personally, I think a lot of you guys are just projecting your personal racial bias(and wishful thinking).

I’m not talking as just a sex tourist about bar girls, I own a company and I just moved my manufacturing operations from China to Thailand and actually do business with regular Thais on an almost daily basis as well as now have to make frequent trips to Bangkok and other areas in Thailand several times a year. I first met my business contact there about 15 years ago while I was a U.S. Marine and he a member of the Royal Thai Marines and we have had long discussions about this very topic. Anyway, I’ve had more than enough time to mingle with the regular average thai man and woman in Thailand and when the topic of race inevitably comes up, the impression I always leave with is that it’s a bias amongst thais against other thais moreso than any issue they may have with other dark skinned ethnicities.

What you’re not understanding is that Thais, like anyone else, cannot be generalized as all thinking the same and each capable of making their own minds up about what they like based on their own individual experiences. Though you may have met some, and I'm sure there are, with negative feelings toward dark skin, I’ve actually met many Thai, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc as well as some white women that PREFER and also actively seek out dark skinned Farang. I’ve noticed this also amongst women in the U.S., parts of Europe and Australia in particular.

Anyway, back to the Thai girls,

What you are also not taking into consideration is the “type” and background of the average black man that would even be over there in the first place that the thais would have a chance to encounter. I mean, other than African college students and military service members, any other type is bound to be either American or British civilians on vacation/holiday and judging by some of the other black members of this site, of above average income level. There is no “bad” history between thais and blacks that would cause there to be bad juju between either for there to be a basis for racist feelings. What about the average black guy does an average Thai have to complain about in the first place?

Incidentally, I am often in bars and clubs in Thailand, Japan, etc, and have been in the situation you mentioned above in which I had to vie for the attention of a thai woman I wanted in a bar (regular club, not a go-go) full of white guys who were mostly all younger than me and I'm guessing at least as good looking and by your rationale, I should have went home empty handed but she chose me over them, granted the guys didn’t really try that hard and there were many other girls for them to choose from but by your rationale, they shouldn’t have had to at all; my girl should have just went with them over me based solely on their “whiteness” and my lack thereof.

Another story; While out for drinks in Bankok one night, one of the factory office managers got a little tipsy and told me in no uncertain terms, despite her tenuous grasp of english, that should I ever decide to live in Thailand that I could make extra money as a gigolo since according to her, African men and Black men from both England and America are fetching top bhat from wealthy Thai women but hey, don’t believe me, amazingly enough there was a research done a few years ago on this very topic:

http://www.msuspokesman.com/media/pa...s-318113.shtml

Amazing huh?

Soooo… if wealthy Thai women are apparently willing to pay for sex with black men, (especially when I wouldn’t think they would have to) what then does that say about your theory regarding what they “prefer”?

I’m not saying Thais are perfect when it comes to racial tolerance, (I've seen how they divide themselves by class and territory amongst the workers in the factory) only that they aren’t anymore racist than anyone else and I have yet to encounter the same amount and veracity of racism in Thailand than I have here in the U.S. or anywhere else.

Then again, I can only speak for me, not the thread starter who is apparently East Indian, although, I have seen those dudes with Thai women as well.

[Amjeck]

Racism is huge in Thailand and Thai girls do prefer johns with lighter skin. Been here long time and can say that this is fact. They also prefer guys that are handsome and rich. Do they always get this combo? Of course not. Will they go with a guy that is dark? Yes, but if it's a choice between a colored man and a white skinned man of equal looks and status, they will choose the white skinned guy 9 times out of ten. This is fact. Is it racism? Who cares. I see plenty of dark skinned guys getting tail especially in pattaya where the girls fuck anything that walks. A previous poster mentioned that hygenie and dress are important and this is certainly true. However, in a land that is obsessed with whitening their skin and idolizing white skin people from thai pop culture, it would be foolish to say that they are not concerned about skin color. Seen black guys clean house in Japan, but never in Thailand. That doesn't mean you cant' get action here. If you got a pulse you can get laid in thailand. You may not have the whole market open to you, but you'll still have plenty to chose from. Play hard and bang hard.

[MeatMan]

Well I'm a black american and have NEVER had a problem being serviced in Thailand or any other Asian country I've ever been. I find it curious that these girls all supposedly prefer white guys SO much over any other yet whenever I go to Japan (ESPECIALLY JAPAN), P. I. , Hong Kong, and Thailand, they all seem to go out of their way to get my attention. You'll see a lot said on sites like these about how Thais, or practically any girls-particularly non white- who make a living selling their a$$et$ supposedly prefer white farangs over all others but when it comes down to it, I'll still end up with one or two of the little brown honeys sharing my bed at the end of the night and so will you if you're cool about it.

I really think it's-to paraphrase another post from this thread-all about the money, end of story. Granted, a little' common sense, a good attitude and basic hygiene go a long way with these ladies but when you go there and see these old men in their shorts, socks and sandals ensemble, and I'm talking Wilfred Brimley/Parkinson old, walking around like lovesick teenagers with these beautiful girls young enough to be their grand-daughters on their arm, then I don't really think the girls are too picky about the men they choose or those who choose them let alone about what race he is. IMO, a lot of these guys here really don't like the idea of non white farang playing in what had been their own little sandbox for so long that they'll try and say anything to prevent brown and black people from coming to also enjoy the LOS. Despite the fact that a lot of each have been. *ahem*. "cumming" there since the Vietnam conflict.

I'm sure you'll find some racist thais but you'll find that anywhere you go from anyone, not just Thais, but for every one racist thai, white, black, yellow or brown racist idiot out there, there are hundreds that aren't so ignore the throwback racist idiots and go for the many open minded folks that have evolved into true twentieth first century human beings.

And anyway, if you do encounter any racism from any of the ladies just forget her, get another, and revel in the fact that at least you don't have to suck old ass balls for a living.

I wasn't so lucky but, it wasn't THAT bad though. I will FOREVER love Thailand.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...722#post669722

[SirHumpsaLott]

Well I'm a black american and have NEVER had a problem being serviced in Thailand or any other Asian country I've ever been. I find it curious that these girls all supposedly prefer white guys SO much over any other yet whenever I go to Japan (ESPECIALLY JAPAN), P. I. , Hong Kong, and Thailand, they all seem to go out of their way to get my attention. You'll see a lot said on sites like these about how Thais, or practically any girls-particularly non white- who make a living selling their a$$et$ supposedly prefer white farangs over all others but when it comes down to it, I'll still end up with one or two of the little brown honeys sharing my bed at the end of the night and so will you if you're cool about it.

I really think it's-to paraphrase another post from this thread-all about the money, end of story. Granted, a little' common sense, a good attitude and basic hygiene go a long way with these ladies but when you go there and see these old men in their shorts, socks and sandals ensemble, and I'm talking Wilfred Brimley/Parkinson old, walking around like lovesick teenagers with these beautiful girls young enough to be their grand-daughters on their arm, then I don't really think the girls are too picky about the men they choose or those who choose them let alone about what race he is. IMO, a lot of these guys here really don't like the idea of non white farang playing in what had been their own little sandbox for so long that they'll try and say anything to prevent brown and black people from coming to also enjoy the LOS. Despite the fact that a lot of each have been. *ahem*. "cumming" there since the Vietnam conflict.

I'm sure you'll find some racist thais but you'll find that anywhere you go from anyone, not just Thais, but for every one racist thai, white, black, yellow or brown racist idiot out there, there are hundreds that aren't so ignore the throwback racist idiots and go for the many open minded folks that have evolved into true twentieth first century human beings.

And anyway, if you do encounter any racism from any of the ladies just forget her, get another, and revel in the fact that at least you don't have to suck old ass balls for a living.