Taipei

[Ace Gallant]

Ace

That is why I prefer the horny underused trophy wives of busy business execs that are working 24/7/365. Once that bagged their trophy wives, they move onto other prey and ignore their hot wives that they married. This group usually are quite low maintenance and tends to cause very little trouble. They usually just wants some primal satisfaction. I get some hot clean pussy, a little older (i usually like them in the late twenties to early thirties, they still looks much younger than their American and European counterparts) than your normal high end stuff at the ktvs, but cost less and minimal. They are just a bunch of rich horny wives that adores attentions that they miss in their "single" days.

Just my 2NT on this. Just hopping on a jet heading back to the US.

Well actually there is a thin line between a freebie and a fuck-buddy. Fuck-buddies primary interest is the Sex part! While freebies are those you get to fuck and escape before you pay big time. Of course free one-night stands are included as freebie because there is no long term commitments or payment involved.

Now for fuck-buddies; they usually come in the older format; sex deprived housewives, horny wives of no-so-sex-competent husbands, or girls who seeks challenge of doing more men, are all in this category. Fuck-buddies tend to be longer term and like what BN said, lower maintenance.

BN, I agree with you on the housewives part. It’s the challenge that we are talking about here. When I lived in Japan, I have countless of these in my list of fuck-buddies. Especially in a country like Japan, they are clean and tend to keep you as their excusive fuck-buddy as long as you are able to keep them satisfied whenever they need it. However in my experience; sometimes, if we keep a fuck-buddy for too long and especially with our demand for GFE, we tend to get emotionally attached. That is when you will get into trouble! They will also turn into Vampires! Instead of sucking up your wallet, they will suck up your time and commitments!!!

This is also the reason why I prefers to play on the Freebie category; so that there are no strings attached, no emotion breakdowns, no girls calling you in the middle of the night tell you they will kill themselves if you don’t patch up with them! Whilst now I am living in Shanghai and I had found other good reasons for my pursue of Freebies; SHB!!

These SHB basically are Vampires potentials that will prey on guys with thick wallets, hit on them, marry them, control and trap them for life! Some are even worst where if they found that their wallet did not last as long as they predicted, the SHB will ditch the guy once they are dry! I had an American friend who marries a SHB two years ago just barely 3 months after he met this SHB upon starting work in Shanghai. June last year he was retrenched due to the finanical crisis, and his savings got quickly been sucked up by his SHB wife! The SHB on knowing that he has nothing left, ditch him and filed for a divorce!

Now, why I target SHB? Simple, because by playing their game of getting “Rich, Stupid, Lonely and Horny old man” rule. I would intentionally let myself falls under this category and made myself they “prey” potentials. Once hooked on, their pussy is at my disposal, I would shag them and when the time is right, ditch them. Of course I get to ditch them before they turns into Vampires! “Do onto others what they do onto you!” Payback time for the SHBs!

So, Freebies or Fuck-buddies, the preference it up to the situation and up to yourself. Everyone have your preference of taste and so is with the preference of pussies.

Just word of cautions:

1) Don't get emotionally involved with the person in do not intend to marry!
2) The more the demand for GFE, the higher the risk of emotionally attachment!

Enjoy
AG

BTW: I felt that it is easlier to get emotionally attached to a girl when I bareback her. What are your thoughts?

[Wolfy187]

Bnlee,

Wow, where was this? Trophy wives sound like fun. Haha. Where in Us you based? Drop me a pm next time you come back to TW.

Windwalker,

Wow, getting sucked for $105K NT, I just spent two busy week in Taipei and heading back home to the US. There are so many lonely trophy wives in Taipei that are totally loaded $$$. Due to my wifey is taiwanese and family living in and around Taipei, I tend to stay clean in taipei. The other night I got hit on by hot high end trophy wife, it was tempting but I had to back off for a long term freebie relationship. Just opted for a hot quickie when she told me that her hubby is in europe for business and won't be back for another week.

[Bnlee2]

hey guys, hope all is well. I did read up a lot of SE Asia Joe's Posts on Dong Guan (about at least 30) but couldn't really find the sad experience he was referring to. I can't travel to China every time I want to get laid. I now have a daughter to care for. I've been sneaking out at night after she falls asleep to take care of my needs. However, that usually left me tired and unproductive the next day.

Well, I finally ended the relationship with that SC girl. I ended up paying her about NT$105,000 in about 3 months. What made me decided to end it was as the time dragged on, she began asking for the monthly allowance up front and upon taking money would disappear for a while. I only saw her twice in the past 30 days, which really ticked me off. I complained to her that's not the right way to treat me but she said she has a lot of debt and is over working, if I could pay her $70,000 per month instead of the $30k, then she could spend more time with me. Yeah right~ (The first month I saw her about 6 times which worked for me) Basically, she wanted more pay, more understanding, more bf responsibility but have nothing to offer. Women~ In the end, it averaged about $8,000 per pop not including the motel fee. Well, for whatever it's worth, it was GFE. She'd let me do her bareback, CIM, etc., which a normal SC girl or any sauna girl would never let you. Of course, I know I took a risk doing that. Probably gonna have to STD tests in 3 months to see I have contracted anything. Oh well~ I figure even if I got AIDS, by the time I am dead my little one should be old enough to take care of herself, with the help of her grandparents. Life as a man, what can I say? I just can't seem to get hard now knowing there's gonna be a rain coat.

Women~ Just don't think I can trust them no more. Yeah, the SC girl told me Sanchong shack has been raided constantly. Undercover police would even follow any girl walking around the area. She said her friends and her are thinking about going over to Jiao Xi/Yi Lan area. It's east coast TW, which takes about 45min from downtown taipei.

Don't know, just don't get off on sex with these working girls no more. Feeling more empty each time~

More power to Rag with his freebie~ enjoy while it lasts~ some guys just have all the luck,eh? I wish I have a fuck buddy like that.

Windwalker,

Wow, getting sucked for $105K NT, I just spent two busy week in Taipei and heading back home to the US. There are so many lonely trophy wives in Taipei that are totally loaded $$$. Due to my wifey is taiwanese and family living in and around Taipei, I tend to stay clean in taipei. The other night I got hit on by hot high end trophy wife, it was tempting but I had to back off for a long term freebie relationship. Just opted for a hot quickie when she told me that her hubby is in europe for business and won't be back for another week.

[Bnlee2]

IMHO: You have to balance out on what you pay and what you get in return. Most important of all, if you think you are happy and satisfied in getting what you wanted for what you had paid, no one else can tell you that you are wrong or call you names like "BSDs".

On Freebies: Freebies is a different ball game all together; Freebies do not usually last long before they turn into blood sucking animals. So; advice on this: Get in fast and get out fast before they turn bad. Of course some freebies may take longer time to turn into Vampires but you have to be your own judge to press the eject button. Whilst I cannot tell you how many times have I had freebie that do not turn into Vampires but these are the one that wants me to marry them! These will be the ones that will also eventually suck you dry to your grave!

SC is a bit far to get to from Taipei...drop Rag a PM and I am sure he can hook you up with somewhere nearer... so you will not be so drained. BUT!!! Rag is not a pimp or an agent... treat him nice! He is a very nice guy if you do..... otherwise he bites!

Enjoy!

AG

BTW: AG next returns to Taipei: Unknown..... perhaps.... two months time??? or maybe if I am tired of Non-Taiwanese pussies I might parachute in anytime.

Ace

That is why I prefer the horny underused trophy wives of busy business execs that are working 24/7/365. Once that bagged their trophy wives, they move onto other prey and ignore their hot wives that they married. This group usually are quite low maintenance and tends to cause very little trouble. They usually just wants some primal satisfaction. I get some hot clean pussy, a little older (i usually like them in the late twenties to early thirties, they still looks much younger than their American and European counterparts) than your normal high end stuff at the ktvs, but cost less and minimal. They are just a bunch of rich horny wives that adores attentions that they miss in their "single" days.

Just my 2NT on this. Just hopping on a jet heading back to the US.

[Ragnarok42]

Well, I finally ended the relationship with that SC girl. I ended up paying her about NT$105,000 in about 3 months.

Women~ Just don't think I can trust them no more.

Don't know, just don't get off on sex with these working girls no more. Feeling more empty each time~

More power to Rag with his freebie~ enjoy while it lasts~ some guys just have all the luck,eh? I wish I have a fuck buddy like that.

If we are talking fuck buddies, then you should talk to the godfather - AG.

I feel for you buddy, I have "relations" with WG too but usually it only means I see her on my own time and she gives me a discounted price. I also get GFE ( and I do mean GFE) from her. My freebie is a totally different matter, we are talking serious feelings involved here not just some plaything. So it could end really badly too. But after having her, having sex with random WGs I dont know does begin to feel empty just like you said. I am finding that sticking to the few WGs you have had a good time with in the end makes everyone happy.

Just my 2 cents.

[Ragnarok42]

On Freebies: Freebies is a different ball game all together; Freebies do not usually last long before they turn into blood sucking animals. So; advice on this: Get in fast and get out fast before they turn bad. Of course some freebies may take longer time to turn into Vampires but you have to be your own judge to press the eject button. Whilst I cannot tell you how many times have I had freebie that do not turn into Vampires but these are the one that wants me to marry them! These will be the ones that will also eventually suck you dry to your grave!

SC is a bit far to get to from Taipei...drop Rag a PM and I am sure he can hook you up with somewhere nearer... so you will not be so drained. BUT!!! Rag is not a pimp or an agent... treat him nice! He is a very nice guy if you do..... otherwise he bites!

My freebie started out as both of us being seriously attracted to each other and we got together literally in 2 weeks (I am married and she has a steady BF), so we are both cheating on our respective partners. She probably will not turn into a blood sucking vampire, at least in the money department, but in terms of time and emotional attachment maybe. Wish me luck ;-) For the time being I as seriously enjoying the mind blowing sex we have.

And I have not been known to bite...................much ;-P

[Ace Gallant]

Well, I finally ended the relationship with that SC girl. I ended up paying her about NT$105,000 in about 3 months. What made me decided to end it was as the time dragged on, she began asking for the monthly allowance up front and upon taking money would disappear for a while. I only saw her twice in the past 30 days, which really ticked me off. I complained to her that's not the right way to treat me but she said she has a lot of debt and is over working, if I could pay her $70,000 per month instead of the $30k, then she could spend more time with me. Yeah right~ (The first month I saw her about 6 times which worked for me) Basically, she wanted more pay, more understanding, more bf responsibility but have nothing to offer. Women~ In the end, it averaged about $8,000 per pop not including the motel fee. Well, for whatever it's worth, it was GFE. She'd let me do her bareback, CIM, etc., which a normal SC girl or any sauna girl would never let you. Of course, I know I took a risk doing that. Probably gonna have to STD tests in 3 months to see I have contracted anything. Oh well~ I figure even if I got AIDS, by the time I am dead my little one should be old enough to take care of herself, with the help of her grandparents. Life as a man, what can I say? I just can't seem to get hard now knowing there's gonna be a rain coat.

Women~ Just don't think I can trust them no more. Yeah, the SC girl told me Sanchong shack has been raided constantly. Undercover police would even follow any girl walking around the area. She said her friends and her are thinking about going over to Jiao Xi/Yi Lan area. It's east coast TW, which takes about 45min from downtown taipei.

Don't know, just don't get off on sex with these working girls no more. Feeling more empty each time~

More power to Rag with his freebie~ enjoy while it lasts~ some guys just have all the luck,eh? I wish I have a fuck buddy like that.

IMHO: You have to balance out on what you pay and what you get in return. Most important of all, if you think you are happy and satisfied in getting what you wanted for what you had paid, no one else can tell you that you are wrong or call you names like "BSDs".

On Freebies: Freebies is a different ball game all together; Freebies do not usually last long before they turn into blood sucking animals. So; advice on this: Get in fast and get out fast before they turn bad. Of course some freebies may take longer time to turn into Vampires but you have to be your own judge to press the eject button. Whilst I cannot tell you how many times have I had freebie that do not turn into Vampires but these are the one that wants me to marry them! These will be the ones that will also eventually suck you dry to your grave!

SC is a bit far to get to from Taipei...drop Rag a PM and I am sure he can hook you up with somewhere nearer... so you will not be so drained. BUT!!! Rag is not a pimp or an agent... treat him nice! He is a very nice guy if you do..... otherwise he bites!

Enjoy!
AG

BTW: AG next returns to Taipei: Unknown..... perhaps.... two months time??? or maybe if I am tired of Non-Taiwanese pussies I might parachute in anytime.

[Ace Gallant]

Ace,

Where you been? When you heading back to tw? Probably be back and forth between, europe, asia and states. Will make a trip to China in July for golf and fun. Considering Zhuhai or Hainan island. What airport services CP? (CP virgin here)

Where is this new magical spot in the middle of taipei?

W.

Sorry, off the radar for a while as I had been on my tour of the world!

It is not magical spot in the middle of Taipei but more like magical spot(s) in the middle of Taipei! These are local apartments. TO access them, you need to call a certain number (sort of sex hot line) in which the "agent" will arrange a girls of your preference type. They will tell you which apartment to go to. The floor, number changes everyday, that why the police cannot nail them. You will also need to tell the "agent" what is the color of your shirt you are wearing. You arrive at the apartment, knock on the door and a your girl upon identifying you with the color of your shirt will let you in. Once inside, the details part takes over.

Only problem with this system is:

1) You will have to be introduce to the hotline service by a regular.
2) They will identify you the next time by your cell# which means you need a local number and not subscribe to the Caller-Non-display services.
3) You have to speak Taiwanese or Mandarin because the Hotline is manned by locals Taiwanese girls.

If you fit all the above requirements, PM for further details.

And NO, I will not post the numbers on the board because it is forbidden!

Enjoy!
AG

[WindWalker]

hey guys, hope all is well. I did read up a lot of SE Asia Joe's Posts on Dong Guan (about at least 30) but couldn't really find the sad experience he was referring to. I can't travel to China every time I want to get laid. I now have a daughter to care for. I've been sneaking out at night after she falls asleep to take care of my needs. However, that usually left me tired and unproductive the next day.

Well, I finally ended the relationship with that SC girl. I ended up paying her about NT$105,000 in about 3 months. What made me decided to end it was as the time dragged on, she began asking for the monthly allowance up front and upon taking money would disappear for a while. I only saw her twice in the past 30 days, which really ticked me off. I complained to her that's not the right way to treat me but she said she has a lot of debt and is over working, if I could pay her $70,000 per month instead of the $30k, then she could spend more time with me. Yeah right~ (The first month I saw her about 6 times which worked for me) Basically, she wanted more pay, more understanding, more bf responsibility but have nothing to offer. Women~ In the end, it averaged about $8,000 per pop not including the motel fee. Well, for whatever it's worth, it was GFE. She'd let me do her bareback, CIM, etc., which a normal SC girl or any sauna girl would never let you. Of course, I know I took a risk doing that. Probably gonna have to STD tests in 3 months to see I have contracted anything. Oh well~ I figure even if I got AIDS, by the time I am dead my little one should be old enough to take care of herself, with the help of her grandparents. Life as a man, what can I say? I just can't seem to get hard now knowing there's gonna be a rain coat.

Women~ Just don't think I can trust them no more. Yeah, the SC girl told me Sanchong shack has been raided constantly. Undercover police would even follow any girl walking around the area. She said her friends and her are thinking about going over to Jiao Xi/Yi Lan area. It's east coast TW, which takes about 45min from downtown taipei.

Don't know, just don't get off on sex with these working girls no more. Feeling more empty each time~

More power to Rag with his freebie~ enjoy while it lasts~ some guys just have all the luck,eh? I wish I have a fuck buddy like that.

[Wolfy187]

Ace,

Where you been? When you heading back to tw? Probably be back and forth between, europe, asia and states. Will make a trip to China in July for golf and fun. Considering Zhuhai or Hainan island. What airport services CP? (CP virgin here)

Where is this new magical spot in the middle of taipei?

W.

[Ragnarok42]

Found a place where you call in, 3000 for full hour of Showers, Massage and SXX in the middle of Taipei city! with Taiwanese girls (Not China). Don't have to travel 30 mins to Sanchong for a 3000 / 15 mins shot!!!

Enjoy!
AG

Yo AG,

sorry I keep missing you buddy. But work is shit busy now, whats all this economic depression bullshit. Spent a pretty miserable 2 nights in Beijing, found this really cute massage girl but no time to take it any further.

My freebie is keeping my busy and happy here anyways. Give me a shout out next time you are in town and we can go hunting.

Cheers,

Rag

[Ace Gallant]

I agree.

Freebies in TW are a bit more possible. Sure there are those whose endgame is (1) MONEY, (2) Marriage, (3) learning language, or (4) revenge. Aren't those the practical and common sense things in ANY relationship? I doubt there's love or GFE for the sake of GFE involved.

With the economy so messy and jobs scarce, office jobs and cozy indoor jobs are now unstable. They were available by the thousands, but now its mostly manual work or work with multiple responsibilities. Pride makes the TWese spurn these jobs and that's a shame. They'd rather score an easy 5000 nt (1000 rmb) and gamble it away in the stock market. We all know how gambling turns out. Doesn't take much to wonder where WindW's 42K went after the girl got a hold of it...

Marriage. Of course, stable home, stable bread-winner, buy food, housewife, possibility of divorce if all turns sour. What's not to gain from Marriage for a girl? With more females to male ratio, even the ugliest girls would give freebies to single guys who's older than she is. And there's the passport factor. Who's got a foreign passport? Raise your hands and you'll see girls flock to your sides giving you GFE.

Language. Yeah, if you speak English, you' may get freebies just for the language exchange. I've seen ugly foreigners speak and give free lessons to hot TWese girls. I suppose no sex is involved, but if there was, you'd think she's in it for the free lessons than the good sex.

Revenge. What better to get back at a cheatin BF than doing another guy? Psycho perhaps, but it's somewhat common in the city area where guys often stray with KTVs, high female-low male ratio, and the fact that TWese guys are fuckin sweet-talkin con men. I hate these type of men. I really do.

In any case, I'd argue that in CP freebies are possible, IF you are generous with your money and show some sensitivity and see them often. Money is not that hard (it's CP, not a major city) to spread around in China, sensitivity is over-emphasized especially for us travelers, and so seeing them often is the X-factor. So yea, as ACE mentioned, overnighters to CP claiming freebies are pretty rare.

But it's difficult to compare CP to TW cause they're two different animals. CP is NOT a major cosmopolitan city. If we're comparing ShangHai, HK or Beijing with Taipei, we'll get a better feel for what motivates freebies and if it's common or rare. For a larger city, I'd say it quite possible. For CP, I'd say it's less of a possibility.

Woooh Woooh!!! Don't get too excited here man....! You need to actually visit CP more often to get over your CP hangover!!!

I am in CP now with OAH and had just sent off my two Shanghai gang members; Blacklisted and World Guy Sh (Aka. CP Cherry boy!!!hahahaha!) Well they had a great 3 nights and parted from their girls very unwillingly, basically I had to tear them away from the girls otherwise they will be importing them from CP to Shanghai!!!

Anyways... this is the Taipei threads, my overdue post on my latest discovery in Taipei will be up soon. Just a review:

Found a place where you call in, 3000 for full hour of Showers, Massage and SXX in the middle of Taipei city! with Taiwanese girls (Not China). Don't have to travel 30 mins to Sanchong for a 3000 / 15 mins shot!!!

Enjoy!
AG

[BruceTea]

Nah.... Joe... I think you mis-understood him. What he wanted is GFE not those P4P like those in CP. Just like Taipei, CP has a fair amount of GFE girls that wants you to marry them. Freebies... yes of course that too but only applicable to people like us who speak the language and who spend more time there. Not for overnighters. You expect to walk into town and have a freebie hooked up with you in a couple of hours by using your charms? Fat Hope! Anyone who dare say that he can fuck basically every girl for free over a short visit to CP are either movie star or he is just BS.

I agree.

Freebies in TW are a bit more possible. Sure there are those whose endgame is (1) MONEY, (2) Marriage, (3) learning language, or (4) revenge. Aren't those the practical and common sense things in ANY relationship? I doubt there's love or GFE for the sake of GFE involved.

With the economy so messy and jobs scarce, office jobs and cozy indoor jobs are now unstable. They were available by the thousands, but now its mostly manual work or work with multiple responsibilities. Pride makes the TWese spurn these jobs and that's a shame. They'd rather score an easy 5000 nt (1000 rmb) and gamble it away in the stock market. We all know how gambling turns out. Doesn't take much to wonder where WindW's 42K went after the girl got a hold of it...

Marriage. Of course, stable home, stable bread-winner, buy food, housewife, possibility of divorce if all turns sour. What's not to gain from Marriage for a girl? With more females to male ratio, even the ugliest girls would give freebies to single guys who's older than she is. And there's the passport factor. Who's got a foreign passport? Raise your hands and you'll see girls flock to your sides giving you GFE.

Language. Yeah, if you speak English, you' may get freebies just for the language exchange. I've seen ugly foreigners speak and give free lessons to hot TWese girls. I suppose no sex is involved, but if there was, you'd think she's in it for the free lessons than the good sex.

Revenge. What better to get back at a cheatin BF than doing another guy? Psycho perhaps, but it's somewhat common in the city area where guys often stray with KTVs, high female-low male ratio, and the fact that TWese guys are fuckin sweet-talkin con men. I hate these type of men. I really do.

In any case, I'd argue that in CP freebies are possible, IF you are generous with your money and show some sensitivity and see them often. Money is not that hard (it's CP, not a major city) to spread around in China, sensitivity is over-emphasized especially for us travelers, and so seeing them often is the X-factor. So yea, as ACE mentioned, overnighters to CP claiming freebies are pretty rare.

But it's difficult to compare CP to TW cause they're two different animals. CP is NOT a major cosmopolitan city. If we're comparing ShangHai, HK or Beijing with Taipei, we'll get a better feel for what motivates freebies and if it's common or rare. For a larger city, I'd say it quite possible. For CP, I'd say it's less of a possibility.

[SE Asia Joe]

Nah.... Joe... I think you mis-understood him. What he wanted is GFE not those P4P like those in CP. Just like Taipei, CP has a fair amount of GFE girls that wants you to marry them. Freebies... yes of course that too but only applicable to people like us who speak the language and who spend more time there. Not for overnighters. You expect to walk into town and have a freebie hooked up with you in a couple of hours by using your charms? Fat Hope! Anyone who dare say that he can fuck basically every girl for free over a short visit to CP are either movie star or he is just BS.

Enjoy!
AG

Welllllll.... when OAH et al got me over to CP the first time, I honestly did not know what I really wanted. Just that I had this deep loneliness and sadness and longing and..... whatever!! Same kind of thing that windwalker seem to be expressing here. Takes one to know one I say.... and I think I recognize WW as one of the walking wounded like I was!

Anyway, on CP - as soon as I hit town and the gang took me around to see the "merchandise," I took to it like fish to water and popped and popped and popped!! And presto - all the longing and lneliness and sadness just disappeared. POOOOF!!! That's what I'm talking about. That the best cure for what afflicts WW - is a plethora of Pussy Pusssy and more pussy - all there for the taking and to be repeated AT WILL at any time!! And all at such cheap prices!!

Just my suggestion and IMHO

SEAJ

[Ace Gallant]

WHOAAAAA ......DERE PARDNER!!!!

Cut the loss - right now. I know I know, you've already got $45k "invested" in her and probably feel that if you cut it now that you're gonna lose the $45k - but let me tell ya' - you've already lost that $$. Do NOT put good money after bad.

And as far as being addicted - OK - let me extend to you an invitation that OAH extended me - which saved my sorry ass. Oh, my story is quite a bit different than yours - but the result was the saem - I was heart sick and lonely and...... and OAH told me to get my ass to chang Ping, Guangdong province. Please read the "DongGuan"thread to see what its all about.

Anyway, Get your ass here and let me pay back OAH by extending the same "caring hands" to you. Oh BTW - all it needed was one overnight trip to CP and I was hooked..... and happy!!! So much so that I've been going back to CP at least once or twice a week for the past 1-1/2 years now!!

AG - tell it to him!!

SEAJ

Nah.... Joe... I think you mis-understood him. What he wanted is GFE not those P4P like those in CP. Just like Taipei, CP has a fair amount of GFE girls that wants you to marry them. Freebies... yes of course that too but only applicable to people like us who speak the language and who spend more time there. Not for overnighters. You expect to walk into town and have a freebie hooked up with you in a couple of hours by using your charms? Fat Hope! Anyone who dare say that he can fuck basically every girl for free over a short visit to CP are either movie star or he is just BS.

Enjoy!
AG