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10-11-09 19:23 #520Mac,
Originally Posted by Prosal
Can't help it he has some type of problem that he can't help himself he keep on coming back like JASON he needs to learned to stop turning this site and others into his own stage to preach on subjects that NO ONE cares about.
Kid Cisco
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10-11-09 15:48 #519Hitmanm, Originally Posted by Hitmanm3
I think you should tell him. If he cares for her it will not change those feelings. Something else to keep in mind, is she still working or is she out the game? By hearing this from you, a friend, should give him food for thought which will allow him to decide if to step back from the relationship or continue the relationship. I belive he will do the latter.
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10-11-09 12:18 #518
Simple, yet complex, answer
What if he were you? What would you want? Keep in mind he may already know, just does not want the world to know or the world to know he knows. Originally Posted by Hitmanm3
If you do decide to tell him, present him with the facts that you saw her picture on an internet site and thought he should know. If you want to remain friends, do not act at all judgmental about what she does or did. Like I said, he may already know and as long as he thought you didn't know, you two were cool. That may change now that his good friend knows that his girlfriend used to be a prostitute.
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10-11-09 11:38 #517Lots of GDPS have accounts on dating sites. Originally Posted by Hitmanm3
Trust me I know I have met a couple and visited them in Rio but the ones I met had no qualms about me finding out the they were working girls only because I saw both at ta
But this dilemna is quite different.
The only question you need to know is: Is the girl still working? LOL
Only then you should open your mouth.
I know me for one will never let a FRIEND get taken advantage of.
Maybe you should give the post number of her foto on this site maybe and member can confirm if she is still working.
Just my 2 cents
Good luck,
We got to stick together those girls are the great at manipulating.
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10-11-09 09:14 #516Through experience on the circuit as with most here know that some or most to different degrees are oscar winners, they have hidden powers of being seductive, yes they do leave you questioning yourself and theres things you cant quite put your finger on but because they have practiced their 'pitch' mant times (just like the muggers on copa) they generally have answers and 'half' plausable story to expalin things. Its likely she was speaking to several guys, what they do is keep them all on block on msn and unblock and keep in touch by spending little time daily going through them all, if your friend showed most potential to the GDP she is then likely to dedicate more time to him. Originally Posted by Hitmanm3
The old saying 'the truth hurts' The guy is your friend, you have read horror storys on here of involvement with GDPs. IMO you have to do the right thing as you she only after money at the end of the day its an inbuilt thing that regardless of anything its about the money.
By not having experience its easy to have different outcome in your mind that the situation is in fact real, shes not that type of girl, its not possible but as said these girls are actresses in their own league that transpires from their GFE in the sack. Even in the sack if they give a GFE they know for 1)their going to enjoy it more, 2) get repeat business 3) get a tip 4) get a green gringo fall in love, and pay for their apartment in Rio on the back of that pay for their familys gaff and hit the jackpot.
Even when they do that its not enough once hooked in, the other guys on msn will get a bit more time talking and the process goes on and on.
In short you got to tell him and he can make up his own mind with all the facts on the table just make sure you cover facts listed on board of possible outcomes as theres been many! I personally would have no problem telling an amigo and would consider myself entilted to a beer or two, for the ineviable fortune you will have saved him.
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10-10-09 17:17 #515
Opinions welcomed
I did not know where to post this question, so i decided to post it here, i hope i did not make a mistake in posting it here, thanx for the patience....I know of a guy who is dating a girl from Brazil , he is not a monger like us, so he does not know the tricks that a brazilian gdp can pull off. He met this lady on the internet and started talking to her....he decided to go to Brazil to meet her and so forth....he has now been to Brazil several times and has been spending his free time flying to her town to be with her. I never saw pictures of her until recent and it turns out that she is a GDP. I know this because i have seen pictures of her on this very site. He sends her money, pays for her apartment and so forth, we know the story so i will not bore you with the details. This is where my dilemma starts: should i break the news to him or should i just keep my mouth shut.
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10-10-09 13:16 #514Prosal maybe I'm missing something but every report I have read from you is in the form of criticism and negativity. Theres no doubt speaking fluent portuguese is a major advantage in pulling non-pro garotas and communicating in brazil, but not the be all and end all in my opionion, first of, speaking Portuguese or not I want to be in a club with hot women, by looking at the photos you can see the sort of woman the different clubs attract. Originally Posted by Prosal
RULE N°1: communication.
If you can't even hold a simple conversation with a girl, you don't have any chance in Brasil. You have to be able to flirt and keep a conversation going long enough that she starts gaining interest.
Most of the "non-pro players" wannabes don't speak portuguese and can't even communicate with the girls they want to fuck. Good luck.
Even if in an English speaking club\counrtry how much conversation is actually done inside if your out on the pull?
The post is purley informational purposes on the clubbing scene in Rio, I have had several non-gdp pick ups, and my Portuguese is shit! It has never been an issue key words words and having a good time and a laugh is more than adaquate. To get into an indepth relationship when you both speak a different laungage is of course a no no. In my experience almost all the girls in these top clubs speak a bit of english and at least love to practise and learn as well, wilth patience and helping explain words and meanings in English is just as much fun and part of the pick up as saying cheesy lines in Portuguese!
I've had a couple of long relationships (long in my book) with the girls learning English as part of their degree and studys and they love learning and picking up on my sense of humour and different meanings of words, and its fun having mixed lingural conversations with the key to both learning or picking up on new words.
Maybe the numerous girls in non-gdp clubs have only taken me on or instigated conversations as they speak a little English but again I've never been short of conversations in clubs.
Maybe the fact is you simply never been to any of these clubs listed and have absolutly no experience or cause to comment other than to criticise posts.
The way I see it these clubs are expensive by Brazillian standards even by European standards these days and the clientele are educated and work or study in a professional enviroment with the majority learning to speak English or love to practice. As said my Portuguese is pretty rubbish but I get by and overall when get involved in conversation its a school day for us both learning new things and this is all part of the fun in my book.
It wouldn't be so bad but your post (Quote) part about using a translator. Even speaking good portuguese navigating websites in Portuguese is not the easiest and since this is an English written forum and an information forum, supplying any hints or tips on ANY matter is the purpose of it. So for purley checking out the clubs and addresses and having a look at the photos of these clubs the translator opens the door for being able to do this.
I would love to show my own numerous photos in such clubs with multiple girls having fun, and yes all these clubs are infact in Rio and as said my Portuguese is rubbish.
Maybe speaking Portuguese or any local laaungage in any city is still not enough for some people to pull.
I love paying, not paying and I love to get laid.
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10-10-09 11:39 #513
My non-pro hunting tip
RULE N°1: communication. Originally Posted by Marcop 12
If you can't even hold a simple conversation with a girl, you don't have any chance in Brasil. You have to be able to flirt and keep a conversation going long enough that she starts gaining interest.
Most of the "non-pro players" wannabes don't speak portuguese and can't even communicate with the girls they want to fuck. Good luck.
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10-09-09 23:49 #512
My non-pro hunting tips
A good way i find to keep on top of non-pro nightclub scene in rio is to sign upto a few club sites which have their weekly photos updates of inside the nightclubs.
Its easy to tell the classier club and what sort of class of garotas they attract. It also keeps you upto date of forthcoming events, Djs etc and the names and addresses of the clubs. Also by signing up more often than not you can put your name down on the list (lista) Which is like the VIP list. For intance if a club charged $R80 to get in, if your on the list you still pay $R80 to get in but you get $R80 of drink included which effectivly get in for free unless you nurse your tin of skol all night
taemtodas.com.br
nightrio.com.br
riofesta.com.br
For non pork n cheese speakers i have my google automatically translate all sites you can set this in the google laungage tool bar..
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10-06-09 10:43 #511I've posted lots of photos of my "cheap skanky nightmare prostitutes", but I can't recall I've ever seen any photo posted by you. No need to say more... Originally Posted by Prosal
Your post wasn't without any points, but you take it to the very extreme filling it with your hatred against brazilian women. Originally Posted by Prosal
You're funny. Originally Posted by Prosal
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10-06-09 10:12 #510The fact is that as usual, Sperto take such umbrage for giving observations of the reality of Brasil that he resorts to pejorative terms and raving nonsense ( "Ugly mongers go to Uzbekistan. Handsome mongers go to Brazil"). Maybe what he could do, instead of constantly resorting to insults and silly statements, is let me know which ones of my arguments and observations he disagrees with and refute them countering with his arguments and observations. Originally Posted by Christopherd
But, more simply and easily, he will as usual undoubtedly just keep on stupidly deriding and insulting the ones who comment on the reality of the life in Brasil and he doesn't agree with. Anyhow I don't expect much from such a self-delusional cheap woremonger doubled with a obviously obtuse flag-waver, who refuse to scratch beyond the surface and whose only arguments are "shut up and take it all exactly as it comes, and anyway you don't know shit about this wonderful country".
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10-06-09 10:01 #509Prosal - I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, especially as you'd made some valid points before you started having a go at people. But that was a pretty cheap shot. Originally Posted by Prosal
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10-06-09 09:58 #508
I think Prosal makes some interesting and valid points though it doesn't, for me anyway, mean that anyone who has successful non-GDP dates is talking shit - they're certainly not, and Sperto has pointed up useful regional variations for the experienced player - but a sense of balance is always useful. The main factor for me in Brasil is usually (except when it falls in my lap) one of time. Many cities in Brasil are notable for the sheer efficiency with which it's possible to monger. Having sex daily or several times a day increases libido. Non-GDPs usually require at least a nominal waiting game. The cultural thing mentioned by Prosal is a factor against me, but hardly enough to deter a determined player who has naturalised to an extent and willing to put in the time. I've never tried Match.com for Brasil but maybe it's worth a go, though I imagine some (not all) girls that use it will be GDPs/golddiggers in disguise.
Location also seems important to me, although I'm not nearly as well-travelled as some on the Board. Regular girls will be harder work in Copa (any gringos staying there have the sex-monger tattoo to overcome). But the tattoo was pretty absent in Belem, where there are hardly any gringos. I didn't hit on teenagers, but finding women with common interests, especially food, music, language, was enjoyable. Again, I only plumped for GDPs out of sheer time efficiency. And even then I had offers of free time/sex/companionship for an indefinite period after the transaction had finished.
I don't think dating Brasilian women is easy. I think they are fairly looks and age conscious as a whole but not everyone's the same, as with any group. I think you need good communication skills in some form or other. Once bedded, I like the passion you find in most hot countries (though again it's not a given). The religious observance stuff (that someone else mentioned) is regrettable and true. I would prefer a Candomble girl but have never had one yet. But there are girls who don't give a damn about religion unless anyone can notice - appearances are pretty powerful and, given the church's power, understandably so. At the end of the day, who cares. Everyone goes to Brasil and enjoys themself.
What I think is worrying is that newbies might get fixated on getting a non-GDP. Apart from having even (much) lower chances than when they've visited a few times, they're in danger of closing their eyes to the unimagineably vast world of GDPs in Brasil that is world class. Assuming you have some interest in GDPs to be on here in the first place, don't miss out on the opportunity of a lifetime boys!
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10-06-09 09:40 #507That explains why you don't go to Brazil anymore. Originally Posted by Prosal
We believe you, and the explanation is given by yourself. Originally Posted by Prosal
Conclusion: Ugly mongers go to Uzbekistan. Handsome mongers go to Brazil.
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10-06-09 08:53 #506
Dating in Brasil
may i chime in ?
one thing people seem to forget here is that brasileiras (and especially cariocas and those of southern brasil) have very very little esteem and interest for sex-hungry tourists. there is an underlying distrust of gringos among "regular" brasileiras and in many cases it's dislike, and even hate. on the other hand they have a very high opinion of their fellow countrymen. they are suckers about their own culture. practically fanatical. and more and more they date boys their own age ... their peer group, sharing their common interests. gringos are completely out of this loop. furthermore it's a pure fact that latinas (contrarily to slavs for who looks is important but not overly so) place the highest emphasis on looks, which exclude 90% of the gringo mongers from consideration. anyhow most of the mongers don't speak the local language and can't even communicate with the girls they want to fuck. good luck.
it's also a pure fact that the legend of the sexually unhinibited and carefree non-pro brasileira eager to meet foreigners is totally over-rated. firstly, economy in brasil has improved dramatically since the 90's, and sex-hungry foreign tourists aren't that interesting anymore as an escape option. women have a future in their own country. then they are not that liberal. there is some 43.000.000 born-again-xtian evangelists in brasil. also if she's decent looking, a brasileira has permanently dozens of horny, athletic, confident,charming and sometimes rich young brasilian guys at her feet begging to please her, with who she can communicate, she shares the same culture and common interests, and who offer "added value" since they won't leave the country "never to be seen again after their 12-15 day sex holiday is over" like the foreign predators do.
this is the huge difference with ee, where dyevuskas, and especially the most learned and worldly,jump on any occasion to fuck a decent looking,witty and well-travelled foreigner. contrarily to brasileiras, fucking their fellow countrymen is a chore fsu dyevs have to do, not something they particularly enjoy. and they are much wilder. i personally score more non-pros during one week in chisinau or tashkent than during two monthes in goiania, rio or wherever in brasil.
anyone (like sperto in the "florianopolis" thread) who says that for a gringo tourist scoring "real" non-pros is easy in brasil is só fala merda.
Originally Posted by sperto
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