Colombia Forum on full moderation

[Malodr]

You know some of us are not trouble makers, why moderate us?

[Too Jaded]

in other words, it was proving difficult to quickly and precisely identify recycled colombia serial antagonists.

in this day and age of tor proxies and ip obfurep001ion i can appreciate the challenge, especially on a site like this where some level or perceived anonymity prevents the use of more active authentication.

i feel for you, and appreciate all you do for us. glad you're working on a nuclear option in the meantime!

thanks as always, jackson.

2j

[Too Jaded]

Wouldn't a more properly directed action be better, such as direct action against the perpetrators and trolls vis-a-vis dropping the ban hammer, or demoting their account to newbie status (no photos, all posts moderated)?

I know you have thought about this, so maybe I am over simplifying. But most of us play by the rules and it just stinks when the majority suffers by the minority.

Just my $.02.

2J

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Hi TJ,

I agree with your observations, and I tried "direct action against the perpetrators and trolls vis-a-vis dropping the ban hammer" for several years to no avail, largely because of the time lost and difficulty involved in identifying Colombia Serial Antagonists who had registered new and/or multiple usernames.

In other words, it was proving difficult to quickly and precisely identify recycled Colombia Serial Antagonists, especially considering that many of these antagonists have the knowledge and motivation to mask their antagonistic intentions with legitimate information, AKA "Stealth Serial Antagonists".

However, and without tipping my hand at this time, please rest assured that a permanent solution is in the works and will be enacted as soon as possible.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Col Bog 1]

Hi Ezinho.

Col Bog 1 is another member who's reports and photos I enjoy, ...

Thanks for that!

Hope you'll appreciate the future post as well.

The search tool also help to see where someone puts his posts.

I mainly post at the Colombian, Ecuadorian and Venezuelian forum.

These are the 3 countries where I regularly go for my business.

I'm always glad to know I have some delighted readers.

Cheers.

Ps. I tried to send you this message thru PM but your PM mailbox is full.

The ROD thread is intended to provide a place to post links to the forum's premier reports. If Forum members would use it and post links to the Forum's best reports, then these premier reports you describe wouldn't get lost, and in fact they would be accessible and reviewed for a long time.

Thanks,

Jackson

Hi Jackson.

You're right it should be that way.

When I first start to write reports I followed your recommendations and put some of my reports in the ROD thread.

Then, someone wrote that it was a lack of humility to post my own reports in the ROD. It made me think, and even though you wrote that I was doing the right thing, I stopped publishing my reports in the ROD.

My thought was that it was probably better to put list of places in this thread than reports of how I had a good or bad time with a girl, as most girls don't stay long at the same place or in the business.

I would say that there are 2 kinds of posts to keep:

1) The addresses of the places where you can find girls.

2) Good stories of how it goes with specific girl and/or places.

Then you may consider be the filter and automatically inscribe the relevant post to the ROD1 and/or ROD2.

What do you and the other posters think of that?

Thanks

[Ricker]

Was your innocuous post DELETED by you? Or was IT deleted?

Hey Miami Heat, hope your trip to Cali is / was fun and you got to hang with our buddy (el calbito) from NY :)

I decided to get myself back on track on this site and only post reports or helpful info.

That's what it's all about, corecto?

Too much drama and I was adding to it .... not my style :)

Take care amigos!

[Skug37]

Although on the Colombian Thread there has traditionally been lots of flaming and idle chit chat, that does not pertain at all to Mongering, I have never witnessed Cubanut doing any such act. In fact, quite the contrary. He is one of the few people in the Colombian Thread that stays on track. Over time however, I have seen several people attempting to flame him. Cubanut always stays focused, by giving very detailed information on Mongering Spots, and of course providing the best photos of the thread. He is altruistically sharing sex photos on a sex site, so that we may all enjoy them. Is that not the point of a Monger Forum? Every time that I see a member harass someone about posting photos on this site, I can’t help but to wonder why they are part of this forum if photos of nude women make them uncomfortable. In essence, I am certain that not only myself, but many other members of the site, show a great deal of appreciation for all that Cubanut contributes. Keep up the good work Cubanut!

[Ricker]

Casa Medellin,

Actually, I have the poorest of poor places in Colombia but to me there not what I write about out here in Monger land so please don't make random remarks about where I have I have not been, thank you.

Also, as Phunluv observed and is correct about: I have NEVER posted a picture of a fellow Monger EVER. So please stop making that straight out accusation. It is just plain false.

Again I will say that in my posts I NEVER flamed you and you have yet to show that I ever did yet you imply that it is I who attacked you.

BTW- RoadGlide, I know what your motive is out here as well as on the other boards that you have written negatives about me and other Mongers. That was exposed on another board and I will leave it at that. It's your problem and not ours.

Cheers Gents,

Cubanut

Hey Cuba,

I hope things are well.

Your fotos are some of the best and very tastefull.

Keep doing your thing amigo :)

See ya in Sao Paolo.

[Casa Medellin]

Then why don't you just ignore me and let it end? I don't want your business and I don't want to argue with you. I will stop writing anything about you if you stop writing about me.

Again I will say that in my posts I NEVER flamed you and you have yet to show that I ever did yet you imply that it is I who attacked you.

[Cubanut]

People like Cubanut have probably not ventured far out of the safe zones in Colombia. You have probably never seen much of where these girls really live. Most girls are living in incredibly poor neighborhoods where life is cheap and violence is common.

At least 5 guys have sent me email saying they are coming to Casa Medellin for the exact reason I am not letting Cubanut here. Guys who are married, guys who have serious jobs, guys who are older and more mature just don't want to take the risk of some Camera Guy snapping up their picture with a couple of prostitutes.

I tell people not to take pictures in the shared public areas without permission first. That is a very basic and straight forward rule that 99% of the clients would not have a problem with.

Casa Medellin,

Actually, I have the poorest of poor places in Colombia but to me there not what I write about out here in Monger land so please don't make random remarks about where I have I have not been, thank you.

Also, as Phunluv observed and is correct about: I have NEVER posted a picture of a fellow Monger EVER. So please stop making that straight out accusation. It is just plain false.

Again I will say that in my posts I NEVER flamed you and you have yet to show that I ever did yet you imply that it is I who attacked you.

BTW- RoadGlide, I know what your motive is out here as well as on the other boards that you have written negatives about me and other Mongers. That was exposed on another board and I will leave it at that. It's your problem and not ours.

Cheers Gents,

Cubanut

[Phunluv]

A lot of Colombians are forming the opinion that all gringos are in Colombia for sex and nothing else. I hear a lot of gossip amongst Colombians about this. Putting a video on YouTube for 60, 000 Colombians to see just reaffirms this. I simply do not want my business to be associated with those things.

People like yourself and Cubanut have probably not ventured far out of the safe zones in Colombia. You have probably never seen much of where these girls really live. Most girls are living in incredibly poor neighborhoods where life is cheap and violence is common.

I know people who have been shot dead over the most stupid and trivial things such as being disrespected. This is why the majority of the girls work in different cities from where they live. If their Colombian boyfriends ever found out what they did they would definitely get a serious beating for making him look like a chump and it could be far worse. If someone went into a strata 1 or 2 where these girls actually lived and started showing pictures of the girl in a *****house, then someone would end up dead very fast.

Hi Casa,

Actually I've been in some of those sketchy neighborhoods. My first 2 nights in Medallo were in Barrio Trinidad, not exactly estrato 6! :) As for the physical abuse, it's possible I guess, but many of these girls get mistreated from their bf ANYWAY, just because he was drunk one night or a stupid argument. That's usually one of the reasons why many of these chicas get into this business to begin with. They get tired of his cheating and abuse and abandon the idea of relying on a bf or husband. "No creo en el amor" is a line I've heard one too many times down there. . .

As for Cubanut, I'll let him defend himself if he wants to, but over the past year or so, I've only seen him post pics of chicas, no guys (whether monger or no) and no pics of "non-pros." I'm sure if he were to stay in your place he would be careful of the picture taking, I don't think he'll be snapping pics all over the place and publishing them all on the web without your blessing.

I don't want to get into a flame war with you. I really don't have a problem with you although I still think you're a wee bit paranoid. For the most part though, that is usually a good thing for a foreigner in Colombia, and I agree discretion is the key. I've actually never stayed at VIP or Mansion because I have several paisa buddies I hang out with, and I wouldn't feel comfortable with them knowing about my mongering "on the side." That's why I rent an apartment instead, plus I have a lot of fun just hanging out with them and going to non-monger venues at night.

[Carrib]

cpli=chica photo liability insurance-so we can all be protected against enterprising chicas who wish to extort funds from us. but seriously who are they going to sue? senor cubanut de estados unidos? from where? ok. girl waits till cubanut visits colombia, demands money. cubanut deletes picture--now what? jackson can always restrict photo viewing from colombian ip ranges.

cubanut is quite capable of defending himself. i will say this though, i forwarded that youtube video to several of my friends and they are all are planning to visit the medellin mansion soon. lol. that video was tastefully done and it is a well known fact that both non-pros and pros hang out at the mansion. yes, 60k viewed the video but they were not all colombians.

there is one girl on this site who makes most of her money by extortion. she just waits for the right victim who she can tell is going to get nervous and pay her. she then shows up with someone claiming to be the police and says she was either raped or is ****.

well that is quite interesting, why dont u provide more info on this girl?..who/where is she? or at least tell jackson so she can be banned.

a lot of colombians are forming the opinion that all gringos are in colombia for sex and nothing else. i hear a lot of gossip amongst colombians about this. putting a video on youtube for 60, 000 colombians to see just reaffirms this. i simply do not want my business to be associated with those things.

most colombians dont really care since the majority of gringos will never have access to the high end prepagos or upper class chicas, again 60k people saw the video--not 60k colombians. not all colombians have internet access at home..especially those from poor barrios..and in case you havent noticed, this is the international sex guide--where members come together to share info, pics of pros/semi-pros from all over the world, including medellin. you choose to advertise in this forum and yet you dont want your business associated with mongering activity?

btw this last line is complete rubbish..

cubanut has jeopardised these girls safety by exposing them on youtube to a colombian audience

i have seen more explicit photos of these girls.

[Casa Medellin]

i think casa medellin has some points but he's just a bit paranoid. case in point, just take a look at the mansion. there's lots of sketchy businesses in colombia but add "owned by foreigner" to the mix and that can potentially be a recipe for trouble. i think many people in poblado do know what goes on in the mansion, but it hasn't seemed to cause any major trouble yet, at least from what i can tell reading the isg posts over the past year or so. i guess aussie and co-owners know the "right people" in medallo? .

i have been avoiding as much as i can to make any comparison to the mansion. it is the members here who keep making the comparison. i know as soon as i make some comparison it is just going to start more flaming by some of the cheerleaders.

i really have no opinion on what is done in the mansion. i do not model my business based on the mansion, and what happens the mansion is none of my business. so i have no real comment on the mansion. the people who own the mansion will probably never have any problems. i certainly would not want them to as it would reflect poorly on all gringo owned hotels.

as for the infamous youtube video, it seems laughable that cubanut will ever catch any trouble from it. although the subtext is pretty clear, none of the pics are particularly revealing or overt. and most of these girls are probably known by the locals for being prepagas anyway even if the video didn't exist. i seriously doubt a video like that is going to ruin anyone's reputation that hasn't been ruined already.

i do not think cubanut will be laughing if one of those girls tries to extort him. phunluv, you really do not understand much about colombia. extortion for this type of thing happens all the time. many girls in cartagena have extorted gringos in the past for this type of thing. most victims are not going to run to isg and admit they were the victim of extortion.

i could probably write about 25-30 different examples of extortion that i know about in colombia. i have had people try to get money from me personally at least 5 times including the police and other tenants in my building. i have lawyers on call 24 hours a day for this purpose.

there is one girl on this site who makes most of her money by extortion. she just waits for the right victim who she can tell is going to get nervous and pay her. she then shows up with someone claiming to be the police and says she was either raped or is ****.

what i can say to you is you're coming off as a bit hyper and weird what with all these posts lately. you certainly have a right to defend yourself and even promote your hotel here (in an area separate from the reports of course) but the overreactions to the other board members has made you dig your own grave in isg. you have almost no friends on this board now.

you do not know how wrong you are. most of the people who are making reservations right now are doing so as a result of reading my posts. most sensible people can see right through losers like winner.

so i have made enemies with 3-4 people on the board. big deal because i have made 20 friends with people who are looking for alternative places to stay.

at least 5 guys have sent me email saying they are coming to casa medellin for the exact reason i am not letting cubanut here. guys who are married, guys who have serious jobs, guys who are older and more mature just don't want to take the risk of some camera guy snapping up their picture with a couple of prostitutes.

i tell people not to take pictures in the shared public areas without permission first. that is a very basic and straight forward rule that 99% of the clients would not have a problem with.

i certainly am not over reacting and i am not paranoid. i have just lived here long enough to know how things work. i hope cubanut does not have any problems. i sincerely hope no one has any problems because it reflects poorly on all gringos in medellin. i do not want the people in medellin to start to dislike gringos.

a lot of colombians are forming the opinion that all gringos are in colombia for sex and nothing else. i hear a lot of gossip amongst colombians about this. putting a video on youtube for 60, 000 colombians to see just reaffirms this. i simply do not want my business to be associated with those things.

people like yourself and cubanut have probably not ventured far out of the safe zones in colombia. you have probably never seen much of where these girls really live. most girls are living in incredibly poor neighborhoods where life is cheap and violence is common.

i know people who have been shot dead over the most stupid and trivial things such as being disrespected. this is why the majority of the girls work in different cities from where they live. if their colombian boyfriends ever found out what they did they would definitely get a serious beating for making him look like a chump and it could be far worse. if someone went into a strata 1 or 2 where these girls actually lived and started showing pictures of the girl in a *****house, then someone would end up dead very fast.

poblado is a very nice and safe area. there are also many parts of colombia that are safe and peaceful. however, most of these girls in medellin are living in shantytowns where you can have someone killed for $50. cubanut has jeopardised these girls safety by exposing them on youtube to a colombian audience. i certainly do not think i am paranoid when i keep people like cubanut as far away as possible from my business. i do not need the drama.

[Aussie Greg]

Another beautifull day here in Medellin.

Aussie Greg.

[Ricker]

It might have had something to do with me naming a few barrios were I hang out, while in Medellin. She might have family and/or friends in one of the barrios that I mentioned and it may have been too close for comfort.

At least that's the impression I got.

I spend a lot of time up in the shantytowns, estrato 1 and 2 hillside barrios.

A gazillion time in Panama huh? Once was enough for me.

If that Paisa you met in Panama was a pro, she probably figured you weren,t a high dollar payer after you told her where you hang in Medellin.

If she was non pro, she figured you were a puta chaser hanging in those barrios. :)

A gazillion times in Panama because when works sends you that way and is footing the bill, you go smiling.

Beats the sex prison US by a mile and I most likely know the area just a little better than others might.

Take care.

[Phunluv]

You bring up a great point. Especially if you are doing business in Medellin.

This is something to be taken seriously. I do not think that any Paisa would want her picture on YouTube and/or Colombian Chat Rooms labeling her as a puta.

I was in Panama for one night on my last trip to Medellin. I was hanging out in a club talking to a Colombiana, who told me she was from Medellin. After I told her I was on my way to Medellin, and that I knew alot of Paisas there, she wanted nothing to do with me, told me to forget I ever met her and walked away. I'm going to check out some the Colombian links, see what they are saying about the video and more importantly about the Paisitas.

TP, that girl left you because she inferred from your remarks that you were either a monger (true right? ) or an intl. player. And while many colombianas are slutty, not all are and some can actually be quite conservative. Maybe she was that type.

I think Casa Medellin has some points but he's just a bit paranoid. Case in point, just take a look at the Mansion. There's lots of sketchy businesses in Colombia but add "owned by foreigner" to the mix and that can potentially be a recipe for trouble. I think many people in Poblado do know what goes on in the mansion, but it hasn't seemed to cause any major trouble yet, at least from what I can tell reading the ISG posts over the past year or so. I guess Aussie and co-owners know the "right people" in Medallo?

As for the infamous YouTube video, it seems laughable that cubanut will ever catch any trouble from it. Although the subtext is pretty clear, none of the pics are particularly revealing or overt. And most of these girls are probably known by the locals for being prepagas anyway even if the video didn't exist. I seriously doubt a video like that is going to ruin anyone's reputation that hasn't been ruined already.

As for Casa Medellin:

what I can say to you is you're coming off as a bit hyper and weird what with all these posts lately. You certainly have a right to defend yourself and even promote your hotel here (in an area separate from the reports of course) but the overreactions to the other board members has made you dig your own grave in ISG. You have almost no friends on this board now.

My question to you is what do you want here? Do you or do you not want mongers as a clientele? Here's some free business advice: don't waste so much time and energy defending your hotel to a clientele that you don't want anyway. What's the point in that? You're better off spending that time trying to figure out ways to bring the clientele you do want. Here's a hint: your place looks perfect for Colombian ejecutivos who want to chill out in a smaller place and have more privacy, so they can bring their girlfriend, prepaga, mistress (not the wifey!) along and not attract the wrong attention like they might in a bigger chain hotel while they're in Medellin attending events, conventions, conferences, etc.

Or if you do want some monger types, just be straightforward and let us know what "ground rules" you are setting. . . at least for the time being while you are establishing yourself in Medallo.