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03-26-04 15:51 #106
Posts: 3074I think she doth protest too much.
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03-26-04 14:13 #105
Posts: 107The long and short was I did not end up giving her any money. I think she really was in the hospital and she had 3 gall stones removed. When she returned home, she called me again. The conversation lead to money that she need to pay back to a loan shark. I told her I couldn't. I said I wish I could but I didn't have the money. I also told her she deserved better than me. Someone who could help her and be with her in Peru when she needed help. She became worried when I said this. She thought I was trying to cut her loose. She told me not to worry and that everything was ok and she understood. We talked some more. We said nice things. We were considering going to BA together in a month and hooking up. She said she needed to work (she runs a childrens clothing store) to pay back the money and wouldn't be able to go. I told her I understood. That I would see her next time I returned to Peru. We continued a nice conversation. I repeated that I wish I could do more. I told her that she sees me differently than before because she I could help.
This set her off. She started saying that I think she is looking for a millionaire, a rich guy. She told me she was only looking for a good person. That I think she is a different kind of person than she is. She said thank for everything but she wasn't interested in talking to me any more. I need to go and asked to call her later. I did. The conversation started nice but reverted back to these same issues I thought she needed a rich man, a millionare. At that point she said she never wanted to speak to me again. Thanks for everything and take care.
I don't know if I played this right. She was a sweet girl. Like Busy Lima, my total investment not counting dinners and taxis (which I would have paid for anyway) was probably 50 bucks. I got 5 days of total GFE. She scolded me for going to Calle del Pizzas. We had lots of fun on the phone after. When this happened, everything blew up. I seemed more like she was mad that I thought I should give her the money rather than than I didn't.
Hope this ends this thread. Thanks to David_33 for your private assistance.
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03-25-04 20:15 #104
Posts: 1233We are all grown men here and are capable of making decisions with a combination of our experiences, our hearts and our dicks.
I would never give money to a pro for any reason. In my case I was never asked for the money and my help was only accepted after I insisted. Due to my profession I have very analytical mind and make cost benefit decisions 10/20 times a day. For me this was a no brainer.
Cost Benefit analysis:
Costs
1 pair pants $30.00
Baby alpaca sweater $70.00
Eye exam-Glasses $125.00
Web cam $50.00
Stuffed animal $40.00
Visa application $100.00
Credit cards $2,000.00
Total $2415.00
Benefits
Has been my exclusive novia for 9 months. Priceless
Telephones or IMs me daily for 1 hour Priceless
Pays for DSL for 9 months and all phone calls $40/month
For Christmas and birthday my presence was her present saving $1,000 in gifts
50 year old /22 year old
30 days together 24/7 my wish is her command. $35 per day.
The situation only came up after 5 months of having enjoyed the benefits. In addition it has helped me lay the ground work for our future relationship. This gesture is the equivalent of “Waving the sword of Damocles “at my future mother in law.
After doing the Math the decision should be much easier. If however you do not plan on a long term future now is a great time to cut and run. Even for us old guys young pretty girlfriends are pretty easy to come by.
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03-25-04 18:50 #103
Posts: 1273Dude,
You need to seriously evaluate what you are doing. I'm not saying she is lying but I can tell you that I've listened in on girls in Buenos Aires while they concocted schemes and ways to get money from Americans. They really don't feel bad about it either. The worst was when this guy I was corresponding with by email ended up being one of the victims. He claimed he was in love with one of the girls he met. I happened to know her after he described her to me. I also happened to be friends with one of her friends. They were bragging how they had some guy sending them all this money and the kicker was they told me how much they asked for and the excuse they were going to use. Well, I felt bad for this guy and I told him. He didn't believe me and got quite angry.
That is UNTIL I told him the amount she asked him for and the excuse. Moral of the story is that for most of their lives these girls have got by with very little money. Many have health problems but they deal with them. The excuse the other girl used was medical problems also.
I'm not saying not to help but I really think you need to pick and chose who you want to help and for what reason. Lima Busy posted about a girl that racked up $2,000 in credit card bills to feed her family. No offense to him but if a girl I met tried feeding me that line I'd never talk to her again. Food doesn't cost that much in these countries. Most of these people don't make $2,000 in a year let alone 4 months for food.
I've met hundreds of girls over the years and one thing I've learned is that the one's that truly care for you are the ones that won't ask you for money. They have pride and respect and they don't want you to think they are using you for money. It's those girls that are worth helping.
Either way good luck.
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03-24-04 08:19 #102
Posts: 11My .02 cents worth,
Please, please do not send any money. I got caught up in a scam in Quito with a gorgeous big titted girl from Cali. They come up with THE most ludicrous and sad stories about their baby, their mother, their father, ad nausem. Someone needs an operation. This little scammer even wrote two letters to the States proclaiming that I fathered her baby (never ANY proof of pregnancy and if she was pregnant, it was by some other guy like a poor German tourist college kid and not a well to do pilot from the States). DO NOT send them money. Been there, done that, never again. You live and you learn. You might think you are being cruel but you must not allow them to scam you and future gringos who travel.
Peace out,
PuntangPilot
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03-23-04 16:27 #101
Posts: 3074Big Johnson,
If you want, PM me with some details (like if shes in a hospital...and which one it is), and I'll have a secretary make some calls to find out if it is true. I suspect not.
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03-23-04 13:24 #100
Posts: 107I never intended to send her any money. The bad part is I thought this might lead somewhere or at least be semi permanent or convient. I just thought an old guy like me might still have some game but instead she was just looking for money.
In some ways it makes the girls from Tequila and Calle del Pizzas more honest.
Just a drag. Thanks for the support.
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03-23-04 03:06 #99
Posts: 23DON'T SEND ANY MONEY!
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03-23-04 01:14 #98
Posts: 40I don't know the particulars of your relationship, but I am 99.999% sure you are being scammed. Same story I have heard from a lot of other mongers during my travels. I experienced the same situation in Mexico and I didn't give her any money and later she admitted that she had lied when I was back in Mexico.
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03-23-04 00:00 #97
Posts: 1233Big Johnson,
I only wanted to let you know I empathize with you.
I too have a non-pro hottie in Lima. Two months after my first visit, she was depressed because she had run up $2,000 in debt on two credit cards to feed the family (all of whom I have met), after her father had lost his job for 4 months. I had her make arrangements to pay it over time and I sent her $500 a month for four months. I will never know if the story is true. She never asked me for the money! I offered it.
My only point:
Is the true GFE really free!
Best of luck!
Lima Busy
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03-22-04 21:23 #96
Posts: 107Im depressed. I hooked up with a non-pro in Lima on my last visit. We have been conversing by phone and by mail after my visit. I met all of her family (Brothers, Sister, English Brother in Law) had a great time. Did some light shopping with her but nothing extravegent. We talked about getting together during my next visit.
What really got me depressed is her sister called me today. She hit me up for $600 because my Novia needs an operation. She was desperate. Now, I don't know if I am being scammed or if the situation is real. I've travelled too much to send that kind of money. But, I really thought I hooked into someone that was giving me the real GFE. Now, I feel cheated. Oh well live and learn.
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03-17-04 19:00 #95
Posts: 78See new info in Peru classifieds.
Francisco
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03-17-04 18:32 #94
Posts: 3074Not all that much HIV in Peru..compared to other locations. If the girl is a non-pro I think that you probably don't have to worry all that much. And given the extremely low probability of catching it from vaginal intercourse....I saw the ratios on a post in Nibu's area, (NOT FROM NIBU) and even the head of the VIH program here in Peru said it was around 3%.
Thanks Toronto, glad you had a good time. That last chiquita you were with was a real cutie.
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03-17-04 04:19 #93
Posts: 1273Big Johnson,
I've only been with 3 girls from Peru. 2 hobby girls and 1 non-pro. 2 of them would have allowed BBFS. With the non-pro I admit I did it. The other was a popular provider so I didn't. No one wants to admit it but I think many guys go BBFS. Not smart but we don't think sometimes.
Personally I think if these girls are attracted to you, you are clicking, they feel some kind of interpersonal connection with you, and they trust you and you have good hygiene they will offer/allow it.
I've hobbied in Argentina, Brazil, Switzerland and USA where several providers have offered it to me. The way I figure if they are offering it to me they are offering it to others. I'm not so naive to believe I have some special gift. Be careful.
On a somewhat negative note I won't be hobbying at all in Lima or Peru for that matter. I'm flying in my novia from Cali. Best of luck to you all.
Saint
P.S. I meant what I said about the good hygiene. One dude I met two years ago in Buenos Aires had the worst hygiene of anyone I ever met in my life. He smelled like sh*t! His BO (body odor) was the worst I ever smelled. I almost vomited. He also had the same clothes on day after day I was told. Everyone I know that came in contact with him said the same thing. If you only do one thing while you're traveling... take a shower every day!!!! And use soap. I almost told this dude he smelled like crap...
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03-16-04 22:50 #92
Posts: 34Thats a sign that the girls are new, stupid, or HIV+ i would say the last one. I know when I have been in Lima the girls are pretty nice but always wear that face mask that snatch could be ugly.
Later mongers.
Bubba