2006 Lima Reports

[Member #4351]

Comas is not a nice area.

[Hoof Hunter]

No disrespect, but man do you sound like a greenhorn in this situation.

My advice: Protect yourself, meaning YOU set the course of your trip, not HER. You stay in an area where you can walk around, and stretch your legs on your own. Stay in Miraflores or Barranco. Plenty of English speakers around, and very tourist-friendly.

She can ALWAYS come to meet you. Peruvians ride the bus all the time. If she's interested in you, she'll make the sacrifice. You can offer her bus fare or cab fare. Not the best decision staying with the family of someone you have never met before. Especially in the middle of nowhere, and it's ghetto as hell there, as my buddy Screwed Up showed me earlier this year.

In addition to the other comments made my posters on the Peruvian family deal, below is a very recent article for you to read. It's just the worst of what can happen when you don't use common sense.

Best of luck in Peru, nonetheless. If you use common sense, you'll be fine and enjoy yourself.

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a...00010000000001

Dating Scam Ends in Murder
Brazilian Fiancee Charged in Robbery, Slaying of California Man
By KIM CURTIS and STAN LEHMAN, AP

SAN BRUNO, Calif. (Oct. 31) - The lonely, divorced carpenter thought he was going to Brazil to make wedding plans.

Instead, he was drugged and held captive for six days at his fiancee's home while she and another man emptied his bank accounts, according to Brazilian authorities. Then they drove the 56-year-old victim to a vacant lot, where they strangled him with copper wire, doused his body with fuel, and set it on fire, investigators say.

Authorities found Raymond Merrill's charred body in April.

Now, the woman he believed was his betrothed is under arrest, along with a man suspected of helping to kill him.

"He would talk to me about ideal relationships and pure love," said Merrill's best friend, Bill Rauch. "With age doesn't necessarily come wisdom. He was used to doing things his way and, in the end, it did him in."

For months, his family knew nothing of his horrifying end. It was only after a bungled robbery in Brazil that investigators even learned of Merrill's fate.

Merrill met Regina Filomena Rachid last year through an online dating service. At the time, he was lonely and depressed, having been dumped by a Las Vegas woman for whom he had bought expensive gifts, according to Merrill's best friend.

Merrill and Rachid exchanged dozens of calls, e-mails and photographs, often enlisting Rachid's 18-year-old daughter as a translator. Rachid was 41, from an upper-middle-class family that was in the real estate business.

"I thought, `This is going a little fast,' but I didn't want to sound critical," said Merrill's sister, Marcia Sanchez Loebick.

The warning signs were obvious to Merrill's friend of nearly 30 years. Merrill gave Rachid $10,000 to start a skin care clinic and bought her a $20,000 sport utility vehicle. She complained it wasn't a fancier, more expensive model, Rauch said.

"This from a man who was tightfisted," Rauch said. "Ray and I would go out and I'd have to buy all the beers. All of a sudden, he's lavishing all these gifts and money on a relationship he's not even close to consummating.

"I said, `Ray, these are so many red flags. I can't believe you're pursuing this,"' Rauch said. "He would just slough it off. He'd say, `She's just a passionate and emotional Latina .' What do you say to a guy like that?"

Merrill visited Rachid twice in Sao Jose dos Campos , an industrial city about 60 miles from Sao Paulo . Both times he stayed a week longer than planned. Both times he notified Rauch, who then drove to Merrill's home in San Bruno to water the plants and collect the mail. On the third trip, Merrill again overstayed his return, but this time he didn't call Rauch to let him know.

Loebick, who lives in Cleveland , said she sent her brother repeated e-mails warning him that their 86-year-old father was dying, but got no response. She and Rauch's best friend called police in California to report him missing.

What happened to Merrill was more awful than either could have imagined.

Sometime after he arrived on March 21, Rachid and her real boyfriend, Nelson Siqueira Neves, drugged Merrill, kept him in a room in Rachid's house, and drained his bank accounts, stealing about $200,000 in all, according to Merrill's sister and Brazilian authorities.

Then, on April 1 - the day he was scheduled to return to California - they hired Evandro Celso Augusto Ribeiro for $5,600 to help kill him and set fire to the corpse, according to investigators. Authorities found the scorched remains but could not identify the victim, and buried the body in a pauper's grave.

But then Rachid - to raise money to pay off the hit man - took part in the holdup of a black-market money changer, and accidentally left her purse behind, investigators say.

The money changer went to police and turned over the purse, which contained Merrill's credit card. Hours later, Rachid showed up at the same police station to report her purse stolen. Police arrested her on the spot. The alleged hit man soon told authorities what happened to Merrill, investigators said.

Rachid and Ribeiro are in custody, charged with armed robbery followed by death.

Rachid's boyfriend was questioned by police in early October but was released under a Brazilian law that says no one can be arrested in the days immediately before and after an election, investigators said. Now he cannot be found.

"I feel a really terrible sense of loss," said Merrill's best friend. "You expect to lose your parents. But you don't expect one of your best friends to die."

Kim Curtis reported from San Bruno, Calif., and Stan Lehman reported from Sao Paulo, Brazil .

[Hoof Hunter]

Just got back from Lima. Sorry Screwed and LB for not catching up with you. It was a very last-minute trip, and unplanned-for destination. Anyway, I'll catch up before the year's out.

1 - What the fuck happened to the talent at Relax y Vida since the last time I was there, maybe May? No indictments on anything, I'll just say, I preferred to wait in the lobby area watching The Matrix, rather than go upstairs with anyone else.

2 - To the dude who's paying these Tequila Rocks (Miraflores) chicks 500 soles, ba-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. They are laughing at you, not respecting your money, nor giving any better service. In fact, several are duds in bed. Trust me, looks don't automatically translate into great service in bed, no matter what kind of rapport you have with them. Now, since they all gossip, all of them are looking for an idiot to juice out of 500 soles for 2 hours. IN PERU!!!! LOL!!!

3 - Lastly, to the idiot gringo dude who almost got his ass-kicked in the new back bar in Tequila Rocks on Saturday nite, your almost-opponents, 2 Colombian dudes travelling to Lima for "work" purposes, with 3 working chicks from Medellin/Pereira and a lot of money. You really might wanna watch who you're fucking with. We spoke, had some drinks together after the ruckus. They turned out to be cool fellas, who just wanted to be left alone with their chicks and to stay under the radar. Still, they would've put it to you, had security not saved your drunken ass.

[TheCatsMeow88]

Super Duty,

I actually slept at a chica's house for one night and it was not a pleasant experience (see my post dated 4/27/2006 reproduced below). The worst of it is feeling trapped and having your style cramped. My intentions were somewhat different to yours as marriage was not even a remote possibility; I was just looking to f*** a super model type.

I hope you have a more pleasant experience.

The Cat

My plan was to fly into Lima and meet up with a sexy croupier from the casino at the Sheraton hotel (name withheld until I bang her) but things do not always turn out as planned. On my way to the airport, I made an “insurance” call- that turned out to be anything but- to an attractive model-type with whom I had exchanged some e-mails and telephone calls. Her name is Massiel Vidal (www.massielvidal.com).

“When are you coming to town?” Massiel asked me.

“This evening” I replied.

The next thing I know, she had made arrangements to come to the airport to collect me. Staying at a hotel was out of the question and she would not entertain anything other than staying at her apartment with her and her family (mother and brother). My plans were shattered as my croupier friend works nights and I did not have her number. I had planned to drive from the airport to the hotel to set up an appointment for the next day but clearly that would not work with Massiel in tow. Still, the thought of sleeping with a great looking model-type was enough to persuade me to go along with her offer.

My plane was delayed and I did not get out of Customs at Lima airport until 2:00am. That did not dissuade Massiel, however, as she and her mother were there to collect me. We took a taxi to her apartment and I was shown to my (her) room. She slept with her mother.

The next morning I woke up and the situation felt surreal. I was in the apartment of someone I barely knew, sleeping in the bed of a beautiful woman but sleeping alone. I woke up real early, took a shower and got ready for the day. It was another 2 hours before the mother was up and another half an hour before Massiel appeared.

Massiel walked out of the bedroom dressed in sweats and with a gym bag in her hand. Over breakfast I asked her what her/our plans were for the day. Massiel explained to me that she would be gone for two hours to the gym. If I understood the situation correctly, she expected me to wait another two hours for her, with her mother and brother as company. I realized that if I went along with this game there was a real possibility that I would not get laid on my Lima stopover. Worse still, God knows what scheme Massiel had planned for me (the dreaded M word came to mind). “Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive”. But who was deceiving who?

I made a quick decision, packed my bags and left at the same time as Massiel departed for the gym. There was fierce resistance, of course, but I bailed out on the pretext that I needed a phone and internet connection to get some work done. What I really needed was to get out of this carefully laid trap leading God knows where. Needless to say, neither Massiel nor her Mother were too pleased with me.

Gentlemen – to be forewarned is to be forearmed. I would like someone to take it further than me to see where it leads. I just did not have the time to invest otherwise I would have gone along with the scheme out of sheer curiosity.

Fortunately for me, I had made contact with David_33 of this board prior to leaving for Lima. David is a perverted yet upstanding guy who delivered on his promise to set me up with a pretty young thing. By 2pm, this particular pretty young thing was in my hotel room getting changed into a short skirt, stockings and heels for my visual and entertainment pleasure.

This pretty young thing, let’s call her Liz to protect the innocent, was 20 years old and studying to be a lawyer. She is not a seasoned pro but works from time to time to pay the bills. Liz is about 1.65m tall, has a pretty face, flowing chestnut hair and a good body. She looks great in stockings and heels. Unfortunately, I accidentally deleted the few photos I took of her so you will just have to take my word that she is a solid 7.

Liz was a little inexperienced but her forte was a blow-job (covered), which was delivered nice and slow. She stayed for about an hour and a half though was keen to get out of there as soon as I had come. The agreed price for Liz was 300 soles, which was money well spent and a bargain by US standards though not particularly cheap by Lima standards, in my opinion (though I am by no means a Lima expert). Still I have no qualms recommending her and have absolutely no complaints regarding David’s efforts to help a fellow monger in distress.

David went out of this way to help me out after a disastrous start to my trip to Lima. He took the uncertainty out of the whole experience and was able to deliver a great looking 20 year old to my hotel room within a few hours of the request being made. Thank you David. I owe you one and will be looking you up again on my next Lima trip.

In the evening, I checked out of my hotel (Miraflores Marriott) and headed to the Sheraton. There she was! She remembered me and was flattered that I had come back to see her. I asked her for her number and she gave it to me. We had to be discreet, of course, as the hotel/casino does not condone this kind of thing. On my next trip to Lima I will call ahead and take care of what I should have done this time around!

The Cat

[Polvo]

Holy Cow, I'm a Senior. Now, where the hell did I put my AARP card????


Polvo

[Polvo]

......she invited me to stay with her and her family (about 4 people)...I haven't officially declined but that would cut into my other activities.

RP

Shriek!! The dreaded Peruvian family raises its head again. Not only does it grow heads, very rapidly, as days wear on but it grows an astonishing number of hands. And those hands are always trying to get 20 Soles here and 20 Soles there! I have some experience of this in Lima staying with the family is absolutely, the worst thing you can do. David 33 is right, as is Screwed Up, and LB can elucidate on the siphoning sound that a Puruvian Family makes.

Run, for the hills. Or Relax y Vida!!

Polvo

[Super Duty]

Man, oh, man. Where to start. There are quite a few red flags in your response. First I would never, ever, ever, ever, stay with a chica that I hadn't met. I would almost never stay with one I had met, either. You are under her control if you do that.

I don't know the area you mentioned, so can't comment on the amount it would cost to go there. I can get to the airport for about $10, so either your friend is overpaying, or it's way the fuck out there. There are buses that go almost everywhere, for about a quarter. I've used them with no problem. I'd probably be more inclined to have her visit you for the most part.

If you've only experienced stuck up American women, then you're in for a shock. I wouldn't recommend letting her meet you at the airport. Again, most women in Peru are sharks. They'll gobble you up, and you'll never have a chance.

You also told her you weren't "likely" to marry her. That's just means it's going to be a challenge for her.

Personally, I would come for a few days and stay at a hotel, and not let her know you're there yet. Go fuck some chicas, get to know the city some, and experience Lima before you meet her. Then decide what kind of relationship you want to have with her.

Most locals are grateful if you try to speak Spanish. Don't concentrate on being perfect, just on getting your ideas across. My spanish is understandable, but at a very basic level. That's all you really need.

Thanks for the feedback.

How often do you encounter other English Speaking people in Lima?

Oh I hear you man. That was my first reaction when she invited me to stay with her, was "Wow I guess you don't know why I'm coming do you." Or she does know why I'm coming and wants to keep an eye on me. On the other hand, it's very gracious to offer someone shelter...and I will probably stay with her a few days, as Screwed Up mentioned, it would be "one for the books."

Actually she's a sweet girl, she works full time and goes to school at night. If she was American I'd be fucking her day and night if she'd let me, but at 22 years old these broads don't know what the hell they want. Definately not marriage material.

My friend, is a little redhead white dude who speaks fluent Spanish. He is concerned somewhat about my safety down there by myself. So he said it would be a good idea to meet up with the girl so I have a "guide."

I'll post the exact location of the apartment for 30 bucks a night when I find out. My friend met a businessman down there, once when he was there. He's been there 3 or 4 times, but not to get laid, mainly to court this girl and marry her. He said the place is a 10 dollar cab ride from Comas, and in a nice area. Thats all i know, and his wife is going there 2 weeks ahead of him. She's going to check the place out for him, and if it looks good she is instructed to pay the man for 10 days or so.

Anyways this is a great site, and I made a note of the places that Screwed Up said to check out.

[Jaimito Cartero]

And I agree, you pay for pussy---no matter what

I've told the girl I'm not likely to marry her, she says thats fine, and she invited me to stay with her and her family (about 4 people)...I haven't officially declined but that would cut into my other activities.

I'll be there the first week of feb. and staying for a month. The girl lives in Comas, the place i have lined up is a 10 dollar cab ride away, thats what my friend tells me.

Man, oh, man. Where to start. There are quite a few red flags in your response. First I would never, ever, ever, ever, stay with a chica that I hadn't met. I would almost never stay with one I had met, either. You are under her control if you do that.

I don't know the area you mentioned, so can't comment on the amount it would cost to go there. I can get to the airport for about $10, so either your friend is overpaying, or it's way the fuck out there. There are buses that go almost everywhere, for about a quarter. I've used them with no problem. I'd probably be more inclined to have her visit you for the most part.

If you've only experienced stuck up American women, then you're in for a shock. I wouldn't recommend letting her meet you at the airport. Again, most women in Peru are sharks. They'll gobble you up, and you'll never have a chance.

You also told her you weren't "likely" to marry her. That's just means it's going to be a challenge for her.

Personally, I would come for a few days and stay at a hotel, and not let her know you're there yet. Go fuck some chicas, get to know the city some, and experience Lima before you meet her. Then decide what kind of relationship you want to have with her.

Most locals are grateful if you try to speak Spanish. Don't concentrate on being perfect, just on getting your ideas across. My spanish is understandable, but at a very basic level. That's all you really need.

[Screwed Up]

...and she invited me to stay with her and her family (about 4 people)...I haven't officially declined but that would cut into my other activities...

...

...I'll be there the first week of feb. and staying for a month. The girl lives in Comas, the place i have lined up is a 10 dollar cab ride away, thats what my friend tells me...

Comas is about a 15-20 sol cab away from Miraflores. Price might double on high traffic hours, not to say some cabs will even refuse to drive that far.
I used to live in Comas for a couple of months back in 2002-2003 with my ex-gf. Talk about a ghetto place.
I would defnitely NOT stay with her. Not just because it's ghetto, but more so because you will see there is nothing around, nothing to do. Unless they live close to Boulevard Retablo, which is packed with bars and disco's, but I doubt they do.
However it would be quite an experience, so why not stay 2-3 nights? But longer than that...

If you decide to go, make sure you check out:
- Boulevard Retablo on thursday-sunday: bars and disco's.
- Boulevard Los Olivos on thursday-sunday: bars and disco's.
- Nightclub Scarletts, last 3 times I went it sucked compared to what it used to be, but hey your close anyway, so why not check it out.
- Megaplaza Los Olivos / Megaplaza Norte any time: malls, movie theaters, kfc,...

http://www.comasweb.com/

[Member #4351]

Superduty, suggest you check this out: www.nomarriage.com

[Super Duty]

You need to read the abbreviations tab in the upper banner. This will let you in on all the common abbreviations.

I don't think that it's wise to get involved with chicas in Peru, if they're looking for the golden ticket back to the US. If you were young, and she was young, maybe it might have a future. Go down, have some fun, don't make any commitments, and leave it at that. I would make it clear that you're not looking for a serious relationship, though.

If you haven't had much experience with passionate women, you might fall into the pussy trap, and that can be costly. I figure all the chicas I run into are in on the game, or a semi-pro, and try not to get too involved, financially or mentally.

I find it much cheaper to pay for sex in the long run. You can learn 20 common spanish words and get around fine.

If you rent by the month, I think you might be able to do better than $30 a day. I know there are some guys here who have some rentals, and rent by the month is usually 25-40% cheaper than daily rentals.

Ha Ha! Wow thats a lot of abbreviations! OK, I got it now.

I know more than 20 words but the conjucations and past/future tense is what baffles me, plus if i speak with a person who speaks too fast, i get confused. Online, we use the translator so it's all good.

I'm 38 and never been married, what does that tell you? I'm real leery of marriage. Seen a lot of good men go broke trying to get out of marriage. I wish marriage could be a 5 year contract with an option on the end. Nothing else in life is forever.
My experience is limited to American women... I'm pretty reserved, and try to stay clean, and pick my spots. But you know how it works. And I agree, you pay for pussy---no matter what

I've told the girl I'm not likely to marry her, she says thats fine, and she invited me to stay with her and her family (about 4 people)...I haven't officially declined but that would cut into my other activities.

I'll be there the first week of feb. and staying for a month. The girl lives in Comas, the place i have lined up is a 10 dollar cab ride away, thats what my friend tells me.

If anyone has a place that's a better deal than $30 per night, I'm all ears. Let me know over the next 60 days or so and i'll give my email address to you.

Thanks everybody!

RP

[Jaimito Cartero]

What the hell is a BBBJ?

You need to read the abbreviations tab in the upper banner. This will let you in on all the common abbreviations.

I don't think that it's wise to get involved with chicas in Peru, if they're looking for the golden ticket back to the US. If you were young, and she was young, maybe it might have a future. Go down, have some fun, don't make any commitments, and leave it at that. I would make it clear that you're not looking for a serious relationship, though.

If you haven't had much experience with passionate women, you might fall into the pussy trap, and that can be costly. I figure all the chicas I run into are in on the game, or a semi-pro, and try not to get too involved, financially or mentally.

I find it much cheaper to pay for sex in the long run. You can learn 20 common spanish words and get around fine.

If you rent by the month, I think you might be able to do better than $30 a day. I know there are some guys here who have some rentals, and rent by the month is usually 25-40% cheaper than daily rentals.

[Captain Napalm]

Surfer,

Thank you for the clarification and I did not mean to give the wrong impression. Approaching regular girls on the street usually leads to rejection and can even leave the girl feeling insulted/afraid if it is not done right. It is, for sure, not a guaranteed recipe for pulling freebies. Anybody who tries it with that expectation, in Lima or anywhere else for that matter, is going to be disappointed.

Exactly. Women in Lima, just like everywhere else, want to be treated right.

I talked to a few girls, but wasn't able to pick them up, or set something up (damn gf...). The women I spoke to were very approachable, one was working at a "ya ya" stand (Lima Lottery), the other was working at the Inca Market. I remember her name was Irene.

I stayed in San Martin de Porres, I tried talking to a few of the girls there that I encountered on the street around the house where I was staying. Nothing. Not even an acknowledgment. And I wasn't even trying to kick game, all I was doing was saying "buenas dias" or "hola, buen dia." Or I'd wave, smile & tip my cap... Nothing

[Super Duty]

I've been lurking, and I finally registered because I must get some feedback. Sorry to post this under "reports". My friend, who's 40 or so, speaks fluent Spanish, and met a 21 year old girl from Peru online. He went to see her last year, and married her down there. Got her through customs, finally, this Spring. She's a foxy little thing, real sassy, smart. Her English has improved (English classes) about tenfold, and she can almost hold a primitave English conversation. She introduced me to her friend down there (online) I have been chatting with this girl since June, and although I'm not sure about marriage I am going to visit her. He's going down there for new Years, but due to committments here I cannot stay for an extended period of time until Feb. Now, I want to meet the girl but also do some mongering also. Let me asl a basic question: What the hell is a BBBJ? So, I'm 38 years old, have some middle Eastern blood so I could pass for Mexican or indian. I'm above average in appearance, my Spanish sucks ass though. Lord I have tried to learn it but it's a slow go. So, my friend has a place to stay that he will prepay for me when he leaves in Jan. , it is near MiraFlores (I think). A studio apartment for 30 bucks a night, by the movie theaters and Kentucky fried Chicken. I will be staying for a month. I won't be paying for any sex, but I'll be definately up for some new adventures. Any comments or advise is appreciated, thanks guys.

[Member #4351]

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