Non-Pro Chicas

[TheCatsMeow88]

While I disagree that Mongering= P4P...

As has often been wisely noted on these boards, you pay one way or another. There is nothing easy, cheap or free about dating regular girls. When you factor in the cost of meals, drinks, dates, entertainment, gifts, transport and time, it is more expensive to bed regular girls than it is to spend time with purveyors of the world's oldest profession. This is just as true in Lima as it is anywhere else.

And those are the facts.

The Cat

[TheCatsMeow88]

i am still adjusting on the speed of seduction here, which is significantly faster than in the us. if you apply us standards for courtship here you will end up fucking a hole in your hand because the girls will either think you are gay or will get bored and leave.

elberto,

i am with you on this. when in lima, my mindset is to get the target into bed the day i meet her or, at the very latest, on the second meeting. if i meet a girl online before my trip to lima, i have pretty much set up expectations and she knows that sex will be part of the experience when we meet. if i meet a new girl when i am down there, it is usually in a night club, restaurant or on the street but the same thinking applies. thus far, my stays in lima have been short: 2-3 days at a time. if i applied us timing rules and dating etiquette i would never get laid (except with pros, which i prefer not to use for the most part)!

the cat

[Doc Bill]

elberto,

once again your posts inspire and motivate me. i did use the usa slow approach when i started going to s. america, and the chicks just quit me. i now understand that latin women really like to be "taken." and the other big difference for me is that in general latin women don't care (within reason) about age. this is unheard of in sex prison usa. i'm 50, i look in my low 40's, but i get come-ons from the 20 somethings!

so anyway, elberto, what would you charge per hour to be my in-house psychotherapist while i'm in lima?

[Lima Busy]

The other night on a first date with a girl I had met in a local mercado after one beer we were back at my place, soon she was sitting on my lap sucking on my tongue and 10 minutes later I had my face buried in her muff. Not only was it fast, but it set my new low expense record at 7 soles (1 Cristal + tip).

Take her there during happy hour (4-6 for 3X2 pilsens etc). Only let her have one beer and by Peru mongering rules you can technically claim it as a ¨freebie¨.
LB

[Elberto]

one footnote to my last post.

i have a job that in a sense has been like working on my doctorate in female psychology since 1996. sometimes it feels like i know more about what the girl is thinking than she does, thus my self-confidence.

if you study about female sexual fantasies you will learn that having sex with a stranger (especially an exotic foreigner) is very high on the list.

you will also learn that another popular fantasy is "ravagement", not quite [CodeWord123] but where she feels a sense of helplessness and having no control in the situation. related is that a top excuse for a woman not using birth control is that she is "swept up in the moment", i.e. somewhat helpless and out of control.

so if you follow what i'm saying a girl is most likely to share these fantasies with other women, and in my experience latinas in particular are eager for sex. if you proceed in a confident, gentlemanly manner to seduce her with the knowledge that you pretty much can't fail she will respond favorably. you will control the situation, she will be "swept up in the moment", and you will guide her to your bed.

[Elberto]

mmmm, how old are you? how much goodlooking are you?

i am in my late 30s, normal height with a beer belly, nowhere near model good-looking but i get lots of compliments on my eyes/face/smile. my biggest asset is my self-confidence. when i am on my game i can get just about any girl i want and even when i'm at less than optimum i still do well. my style works especially well here in peru.

i posted my thoughts about this a while back (i think in nibu's peru thread) but basically peruanas like americans, i go to places where there aren't many other americans, i know enough spanish to chat up the girls, i am not shy and i will make strong eye contact and approach any girl who appears interested, and while we chat i bombard the girls with "i am going to fuck you good" vibes.

i am still adjusting on the speed of seduction here, which is significantly faster than in the us. if you apply us standards for courtship here you will end up fucking a hole in your hand because the girls will either think you are gay or will get bored and leave.

the other night on a first date with a girl i had met in a local mercado after one beer we were back at my place, soon she was sitting on my lap sucking on my tongue and 10 minutes later i had my face buried in her muff. not only was it fast, but it set my new low expense record at 7 soles (1 cristal + tip).

when the girl says to you "te quiero mucho" you are in, time to quit fucking around and get around to fucking.

[TheCatsMeow88]

I think Peru is a different country.

Yes, you are right about that one. Peru is, indeed, a different country.

[Polvo]

....... By the time she leaves I'm not thinking about another round but how I'm going to unfuck my sleep schedule......

I will sleep when I'm dead.

(Renaissance: Morales Late Nite Mix)

Suerte!

Polvo

[Elberto]

Polvo,

I'm having the opposite problem. With non-pros and my mad skills in the sack my girls all pass out afterwards and don't leave my bed until they have sufficiently recovered.

I am beyond paranoid when strangers are in my apartment and I don't relax until the door closes behind them on the way out. By the time she leaves I'm not thinking about another round but how I'm going to unfuck my sleep schedule.

That's why sometimes I have posted while the girl is still with me. I am killing time until it's my turn to hit the sack. Right now there's a cute 19 y.o. in my bed who I met while shopping for a gift for my Dad. She took my softest shirt out of my closet as her sleeping wear so I think she's planning to be here a while.

This brings to mind the insight attributed to Charlie Sheen about hookers: "I don't pay them for sex, I pay them to leave."

[Elberto]

Cat,

My results are in part my game or personality for sure, I've never laid a real high percentage of my dates even there. Something from years of total hopelessness and cluelessness dating gringas....

and:

If I seeked out and dated specifically 6's and 6.5's I could get a lot more civilian pussy, but I wouldn't enjoy that a whole lot.

I'm feeling a bit under the weather today but your post made me laugh and feel a little better. Gracias.

[Little King]

I ran into the time/dating issue big time when I only had 7 short days at the end of November. I decided to limit my dating activity to four or five civ's and give my best effort on each of them. Apparently I didn't choose well - the one I was most interested in turned out to be hung up on her ex, and none of the chicas put out for me. Abuuuuuuuu...Well, thank god for other options

My quick 2 cents - I don't think dating and sexing civ women in Lima is totally different than in a large city here in "sex prison" as it is called around here - only about 85% easier. The biggest difference is, the bar is much much lower for initial contact and, unless you are old or ugly, it is super-easy to meet many decently attractive women. From there, it still takes some game, but not nearly so much. To some extent, women are women everywhere, but it seems clear that a man will find an implementation of the 'Tao of Steve' far easier going in Lima Peru than in any Big City, USA.

Sex aside, Peruvian women of course are friendlier, more fun, and less bitchy than gringas. Lima working girls (I mean regular jobs) can be a bit harried, but northern provincial Peruvian women are something else again - more attractive on average, super-sweet and tranquila, and almost totally lacking in bitchiness - a Chiclayana can be great GF material if a curvy brown body, nice smile, and passionate kissing and hand-holding and all the rest, are more important than sophisticated conversation. You may have to really convince her you are her one and only, either be very sincere or a good liar, before you get to bed her. Of course they are jealous, she better not find out what you are up to back in Lima!! Although sometimes letting some of the truth out is ok, if your girl knows you are desired by other women she herself will desire you more, and after a temporary blowup, if a girl really wants you she may forgive you for being a man, take you back, and rock your world.

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