FKK Golden Gate / old Villa Vertigo in Grefrath NRW

[SdRex]

We stayed at Villa Vertigo me and my friend Sunday, October 2nd: it was our first time at this club and I confirm the descriptions of the structure present in previous posts. We paid 35 for entry because we entered before 1 pm; I had a room of more than 40 minutes (by paying 70) with a name "GEO girl" is Spanish and comes from Barcelona, light brown hair, is 1 meter high and 50 centimeters, its forms are pleasing and proportioned, very nice. We showered together in the room before and after sex, she sucked good balls and cock, we fucked for a long time in the three positions (with her on top of me, me on top of her, doggy style), then I reached ' orgasm while she sucked me and made me a handjob and simultaneously slipped my finger into the vagina looking for the g spot.

The girls were a few (maximum 25 units throughout the afternoon until 9 pm), mid-level, no beautiful.

Extreme caution!

My friend went up to the room for 35 minutes (verified on the reception log) with two Romanian girls: Lorena (or Loredana? And SAMYA, a one meter high and 70 cm, blonde girl with a long braid, with a beautiful statuesque, and round breasts obviously always naked silicone around the room, and the other girl is 1 meter high and 65, has a beautiful body and the color of copper hair.

The performance was good, with no extras (no anal, no cum in mouth, no real lesbian show) but at the moment to pay demanded with great insistence in total 200, instead of 100!

The no braid girl (who also spoke a little 'Italian) was also angry with me that I defended my friend, but without having been present in the room! Eventually the manager tried to bring back some of the money paid by the customer to the girls, but to no avail. And he told us: "I can not do anything: you can only make a bad review of the girls!

We left angry by the club, and we have not even given a pass to enter the Magnum club.

[PussyLiccker]

Since the club is nearby PHG, decided to check it out.

Beautiful club like often mentioned. Nice outdoor area. The food stepped up by a large margin. The club is now same management as Magnum, and the cook from that club is providing the a la carte menu in similar vein. 20 Euros to whatever a la carte options that are provided.

In addition, they have food in a buffet style, like Pizza, chicken, etc. Turkish vegetable salad bar. Also, cooked on order BBQ with burger, wurst, and turkey thigh on a stick.

So, food and the club was the main highlight. Not so many girls, like 15-20 even up to 8 pm. So, not even sure when the place gets going or even.

Went right back to PHG where the LU was much better, and peaked at a decent time at night.

Didn't notice any free-lancers if there were any. Just all Romanian LU.

Punter to girl ratio even with such a low turn-out of punters was dire. Wasted visit, and now completely taken off the list of clubs to visit.

They still got the free entry to Magnum on the same day. That's not worth much either.

[Goth Fkk]

So did you ask them where they started going after they stopped going to VV?

Very just now, I talked to freelance with what's app for Summer Vacation. One of freelance will be back 1 weeks at VV. No need ti mention, I go to VV on the day she come.

For 1 week, she is mine.

[Polyamorist]

I have no idea about facebook, but I'm sure some girls do whatsapp. It's real private mobile number so you can see their actual face in the profile page. LOL Anyway, one of the girls I met through the freelance was her school's mate. She tasted like real girls next door to you.

So did you ask them where they started going after they stopped going to VV?

[Goth Fkk]

Do you think they keep in touch mainly by whatsapp, or Facebook, or something else?

I have no idea about facebook, but I'm sure some girls do whatsapp. It's real private mobile number so you can see their actual face in the profile page. LOL Anyway, one of the girls I met through the freelance was her school's mate. She tasted like real girls next door to you.

[Polyamorist]

I met GFE freelance, through some sessions with her, and we became kind of close to friends more than client. I think we had good vibe. She couldn't stay longer. Before she left VV, she called her freelance friend's at VV introduced me with good regards or she made appointment directly with another freelance for me. I got lots of info and benefits from her.

Well, that's interesting. I generally find if I get on well with a girl, she doesn't want to see me sessioning with any other girls. (Sad to find the influence of monogamy even in FKKs!) But I suppose if she's going back to her own country, why not?

Freelance know them each other, even know when they come to VV. Like this way, VV freelance is like membership club, which is different from any other FKK club.

Do you think they keep in touch mainly by whatsapp, or Facebook, or something else?

[Goth Fkk]

My first visit to VV was June 2013. I had one of my best sessions ever with a freelancer, and I became a bit of a VV addict after that. As late as April 2015 I found a good freelancer there (Kayce, an ex-model), but that was the last time.

Anyway, Goth FKK, about the Dutch girl, did you get her contact info in VV itself or somewhere else? Are there any tips you would give for hooking up with freelancers (good ones) and making appointments?

I'm sorry that I didn't respond so earlier, I was too busy in working and getting air flight ticket or so. Actually, I haven't finished yet, so my answer might be short, but I make a promise that I'll report how it works at VV in July. I also became a bit of a VV addict for the first visit. It's just an aside those days I had FKK trip for 3 weeks all over the Germany and I was going to visit GT for 7 days in a row, but 1st day of visit, I turned out GT is desperately bad-ass and I run into VV. VV wasn't list of visit club. I got contact with herself, not from club, they gave me their mobile phone number and keep touch with them using what's app. I don't know other clubs, but it's normal at VV. It couldn't be any tips, but in my case, I met GFE freelance, through some sessions with her, and we became kind of close to friends more than client. I think we had good vibe. She couldn't stay longer. Before she left VV, she called her freelance friend's at VV introduced me with good regards or she made appointment directly with another freelance for me. I got lots of info and benefits from her. Without her, I couldn't know other freelance. Freelance know them each other, even know when they come to VV. Like this way, VV freelance is like membership club, which is different from any other FKK club.

[Der Auslander]

No fuss. Why you make a fuss? The touring girls tended to be particularly high class, 8 or 9 standard non-Romanian as opposed to most run of the mill Romanian girls (with the husband or the boyfriend or the baby or the 'manager') generally working in FKK / Sauna Clubs. There are not so many 8 or 9 standard girls in FKK / Sauna Clubs these days. The money is not there for many of them any more. 50 f*cks don't do it for them. For a while the general standard of girl in Villa Vertigo (including Romanian girls) was very high. Not now unfortunately.

[PussyLiccker]

How are these by appointment girls different from part timers that may or may not do escorting? Why such a fuss? There are part timers at other clubs that rarely work or supplement their income.

Before Magnum management took over, it was mainly Romies present althought the blog (doesn't seem to exist anymore on the website, website has changed) pointing out Russians or whoever. Perhaps those are the part timers referred to? It was when there was new ownership before which I belive to be current ownership that is same as Magnum. I believe Polish ownership then.

Only Dutch girl I've ran into thus far in De has been at GT, Joanna. Not really my type.

Nora, Rus has been at LR lately.

[Polyamorist]

I'd say Less and less opportunity that freelance type visit. I think the end of transition period is April 2015. A few freelance was present almost every day, but they've gone after that.

My first visit to VV was June 2013. I had one of my best sessions ever with a freelancer, and I became a bit of a VV addict after that. As late as April 2015 I found a good freelancer there (Kayce, an ex-model), but that was the last time. Shortly afterwards I reported here about the changes at VV and stopped going. It was just too exhausting trying to find the "real" girls amid all the cheap substitutes offered by the new management.

Anyway, Goth FKK, about the Dutch girl, did you get her contact info in VV itself or somewhere else? Are there any tips you would give for hooking up with freelancers (good ones) and making appointments?

[Goth Fkk]

Thanks for the info Goth FKK. I think some are aware that Villa Vertigo works in some ways slightly differently to most other FKK / Sauna Club establishments. Although there are many I suppose who are not aware. The Villa was always good at bringing in touring working girls of exceptional qualities and differing nationality. That said the regular girls used to be pretty good too but perhaps that has changed? The Friday and Saturday night parties were pretty special at one time but perhaps not so much a happening event now?

Not so many, but some guys know how VV works out. Yes, regular girl used to be much better than recent VV, and regular girl tend to have diversity: Polish, Russian, German, Dutch, Croatian, Brazilian etc. It was an easy to see stunner even if there's no freelance ones. Those days weekends party was lively. Ex VV Owner is Polish so they have good connection to bring short touring working girls mainly from Poland and Russia. Now you only find out more than 90% are Romanian and rest are Bulgarian with 1 or No freelance type. I never say Romanian isn't good, but Romanian at VV isn't apparently different from ones seen at LR, Oase. I'd say Less and less opportunity that freelance type visit. I think the end of transition period is April 2015. A few freelance was present almost every day, but they've gone after that. As I mention My favorite one will be back in this July for short stay, but she mentions it'll be last visit and she'll be retired FKK scene. Anyway, I'll visit July and report again. Whole FKK scene might be changed, VV has even changed. After change upon changes, how is VV going to be?

[Der Auslander]

VV has 2 strong point. One is club itself is cool: traditional ambient, clean toilet, each room has own shower equipped. The other is a few customer. If you can catch one your favorite freelance girls, VV is the best club to hang out.

Thanks for the info Goth FKK. I think some are aware that Villa Vertigo works in some ways slightly differently to most other FKK / Sauna Club establishments. Although there are many I suppose who are not aware. The Villa was always good at bringing in touring working girls of exceptional qualities and differing nationality. That said the regular girls used to be pretty good too but perhaps that has changed? The Friday and Saturday night parties were pretty special at one time but perhaps not so much a happening event now?

[Goth Fkk]

About 1 am a blonde tall girl started chatting with me, I had seen her yesterday in the club but she was wearing a normal dress both days and I thought she was part of management or a private by appointment only girl. She was from Holland tall slim very different look to the Romanian girls.

I'm sure Villa Vertigo has a few girl working by appointment only. They're called Freelance type: As far as I known, Russian, Polish, Dannish, I've never had a chance dutch girls. They're outstanding good-looking, better than any girls in Oase, GT. Freelance type girls wear normal dress and never approach. They're rarely seen because they come Germany for 2 or 3 days only when they have appointments. Why they don't stay longer in Germany? Because they live with their parents in normal life in their country. Why do I know? I am also one of freelance customer, directly know their phone number.

VV has 2 strong point. One is club itself is cool: traditional ambient, clean toilet, each room has own shower equipped. The other is a few customer. If you can catch one your favorite freelance girls, VV is the best club to hang out. There's no rival punters, and very quiet. Personally, I don't need big LU like LR, GT. I need just One my favorite girl. Worst point is regular girls, Romy at VV is disappointing. If you can't catch freelance one, avoid VV. Anyway In the next month I have appointment with Freelance girl. She'll stay just 3 days at VV and of course I'll be staying 3 days with her. LOL.

[Monger152]

That last sentence should read " I get the feeling she is not a girl anyone could approach with €50 in hand". My phone is altering the punctuation when I post sometimes.

[Monger152]

Something interesting happened to me at the Villa V tonight.

I was planning to go to GT but the rain made it less of a good option as I like the garden there on a sunny day so I postponed it until next weekend. By the way I never saw "garden action" until I went to GT last week.

Anyway I was getting hungry so opted to return to VV as much closer to my hotel, the club seemed a little busier tonight than yesterday, and a few of the girls a littke more attractive but I didn't make a connection with anyone.

About 1 am a blonde tall girl started chatting with me, I had seen her yesterday in the club but she was wearing a normal dress both days and I thought she was part of management or a private by appointment only girl. She was from Holland tall slim very different look to the Romanian girls. To be perfectly honest she was not exactly my type but I had to follow down the rabbit hole to see where it lead.

Two hours in the room, much more of a GFE experience, and she spoke english and a few other languages as well. I get the feeling she is not a girl.

Anyone can just approach with €50 in hand. Made quite an interesting night.