Isaan Region (including Udon Thani, KK, Khorat)

[Opebo]

I've found the bar scene in Udon Thani - particularly the quality and age of girls - to be enormously improved lately, though its still not really my preference. That said, this scene also much much smaller than Pattaya.

[Goyave]

I’v seen a debate on a comment of Opebo “Stick Pattay rather then Udon” for mongering. There were many comments on this issue from many members including Goyave.
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I think for the girls the city fully depends on trafficking from the neighboring countries...

I don't think that there's a debate here and I don't really disagree with Opebo, as Udon Thani is certainly not a paradise for every monger.

Pattaya is the place to go if you are a newbie or if you want to get laid with minimum hassles at a reasonable price. The P4P scene is very accessible and the atmosphere is usually friendly and relaxed. Actually, it's so easy there that you don't have to fetch a provider, it's the providers who will hunt you (well, mostly). The difficult thing is to try to sleep alone when you stay in this town, even if you don't know shit about Thailand and Thai language.

Bangkok is another great destination for newbies and people who want to get laid easily. Prices are higher than in Pattaya on average and the whole town is not a giant wh0rehouse, but its red districts are well-known and very easy to find.

Other tourist destinations (Phuket, Chiang Mai, Koh Samui, etc.) usually have a Farang-orientated P4P scene, more or less interesting, but where most girls can speak at least some basic English and are already accustomed to the foreigners' needs and requests.

In Udon Thani (and in the Isan region), the Farang-orientated P4P scene is not very interesting (IMHO). If you really want to enjoy the local scene, it's almost mandatory to speak some Thai language. And you have to know where the locals go, because for the most part, protitution is not visible here. Even the local freelancers usually dress themselves very conservatively (just like everybody else actually).

But the P4P girls available in Isan (especially in the local brothels) are usually younger and a lot more attractive (on average) than in Pattaya, Bangkok, and other tourist destinations. To find the same quality in looks elsewhere in Thailand, a foreigner has to pay a lot more money than in Isan.

Alas, most of the time, the quality of service is not on par with what is proposed in Pattaya (and other tourist destinations). The local girls are not very experienced, at least, they are usually not used to service foreign customers. More often than not, they won't allow anything else than a covered fuck, missionary style (even doggy or cow girl positions are not offered by certain providers). It requires some time and investigation to find a decent provider if you favor performance over looks, or some time and patience to teach and train a not very experienced local girl. Some of them are willing to learn and will try new things with a reasonable incentive.

That's why I believe that the Isan scene (especially in Udon Thani) is not that bad, but it is certainly not for every monger.

About [CodeWord908], you might be surprised, but all the Lao and Khmer (in other parts of Isan) girls that I've met so far in the local brothels went there voluntarily. Ok, maybe they are helping their family in debt to reimburse a loan, but they are free to leave and come back to their country when they want. I don't say that there is no [CodeWord908], but according to my own experience, it's not as widespread as many people think.

I have on several occasions taken different girls from local brothels to go in a place of my choice instead of doing the deed on premises and that was always possible. They usually have their passport with them when they go out of their working place. I also have several phone numbers of girls who used to work in a brothel in Northeastern Thailand that are now back in their country and who would like me to contact them when I am near their home main city. It's not exactly what would do a victim of [CodeWord908], I suppose.

[Mua Tur]

I’v seen a debate on a comment of Opebo “Stick Pattay rather then Udon” for mongering. There were many comments on this issue from many members including Goyave. On my short visit my own conception has been grown about the city. I think relativity in Patt and Udon is not an issue at all. I do agree with some members that if somebody has something to do other than mongering in that region or passing that region may be Udon is the best place for the mongers.

Patt got a permanent existence as one of the top places for mongering in the world. Girls from different nationalities, arriving here for business. Moreover the place is nearer to BKK. Even as a holiday destination peoples from all sector can arrive here within 1.5hrs only.

On the other hand Udon is not a holiday destination at all. I think for the girls the city fully depends on trafficking from the neighboring countries. On my Udon tour I’v meet 5 girls. Two says they are from Laos, two no reply (does Viet?) one says she is half Thai half Lao. There are many reasons to believe that the supply of girls is completely seasonal. For this reason I found Soi 7 is completely empty. The volume of migration making a very good impact on Udon mongering scenes. All the girls are not for Brothels, some are eligible for bar scenes also. So I can say Udon is very much unpredictable regarding qualities, quantities and there prices. When the city got good supply the price goes down and we can get versatile qualities also, but it’s for a time being period only. Because of, may be it’s a backup training city for the larger market in Thailand.

It will be wise to visit the city for mongering after having invitation from some one residing in Udon, who is experiencing the season with full moon.

[Mua Tur]

the owner of day & night bar demands in some places that, sexiest girls for udon they have. i have strolled all along the road from top mansion to the night market at prajak road. seems they are quite right with their demand. on my first entry in this place a wild girl rushed and crossed me was caught my eyes. but i’d taken already three girls before the evening starts, so i leave her to check around more.

while strolling around the bars nothing was fancy to me. loads of avg looking girls in all the bars and i tried hard to book someone but failed to bring any one on my test. as a result couple of beer glasses made me at the edge of drunken and derived me couple of glasses to leave half. retuned back to day & night to find the girl at first was on my eyes. it’s 10.0p.m. and i’m a fool for looking again such an attractive girl should be remain for me on this time. while sipping my glass in a bar middle of left raw (forget the name) seen a girl sitting with two more guys caught my fancy. awaiting for long time but failed to find the girl un-booked any more and decided to visit again the bars beside the alley of night market. here “mission finding nimo” completed surprisingly. the girl was calling another guy and ignored by him. right after that she smelled out of a dog with wet mouth full of salvia, that’s me. she was looking straight but not to me with a keen attention when i will step inside the bar and i did. the girl (see the pic-age21) flew me to the bar counter and start talking, surprisingly a fluent english, even i got no chances to open my mouth. i can’t kiss her to shut her mouth, isn’t it we are meeting first time? instead of that i ordered a san miguel for her. and opened a big smile as i didn’t have from pretty long time.

we drank and talked and my busy palm brushing continuously her revealed round leg. once she asked me hw old r u? i said it’s 50ish, i whispered in her year, still i can fu…she yelled out me too, i want ur.. she knocked on the middle of my two leg. o.k. i had enough, it’s time to barfine. how much? it’s 300bht and 1500bht(lt) for the girl, i agreed, it was 11.30p.m. she put a gogo dark glass on her eyes (she has implanted contact lance) and ordered me to take off my ass. may i buy some food from the night market, i asked her. she was so impatience and unrest on her walking for the wasting of time and me also was keen to enter in my room as early as possible. in the room what i never do, made a deep and hard kiss on her unwashed lips for a long time.

without sounding any word i entered in bathroom and she followed me speechless for wash. i revealed her clothes stopping eyes to her young nipples straight to me and thrown all of them in the room. no towels no shyness just resting her hands on my shoulder and allowed me for a detail wash on her except the eye part of the face. again a deep kiss on her washed spread lips, a hard suck on her nipples after wash. i took her on my hand and she leaned on my chest closing her eyes, just revealing my happiness that the girl is going make my journey to udon unexpectedly.

when i entered in her i feel a roaring grinding, rounding and mounting on me bursting in my head wild, wild and wild. i forget to change positions just ones i pulled her on the edge of the bed and continued what we were doing before.

i’v no complain why i did only once on that night. the truth is we were very tired and got sleep instantly for 8.0a.m. of the next day. a phone call arrived from bkk and it made a full stop for my 24hrs udon trip and i ran out for bus for bkk.

[Mart Cham]

'Fie Dang', not Fang Dong. Fie pronounced like 'pie', and 'Dang' like 'dang it' in an old Western.

Soi Fang Dong ( ซอยแฝงดง ) ain't easy to find but once you've found the forest you've gone too far.

[Opebo]

Finding Soi Fang Dong is found difficult to other expats..

'Fie Dang', not Fang Dong. Fie pronounced like 'pie', and 'Dang' like 'dang it' in an old Western.

[Mua Tur]

finding soi fang dong is found difficult to other expats. so i deleted the street from my visit list. soi 7 is immediate after the ruy suk mansion. it’s a long diagonal road and i enter with expecting some sign should assure me about the action. but alas! i found completely deserted the place. no sign no indication no affirmation what it may offer. some aged guys sitting in plastic chairs and throwing weird looks to me, that’s all. no body interested to show anything why a farang walking all along the road and what he looks for.

ok let’s try for soi 2. joe told me u will not find any name plate but u will be able to find by pointing the food shops on entrance of the road. it’s also deserted right now. joe u r right, it’s too early for action. returned back to hotel, saying hello to other guys in lounge and ordered my lunch to joe’s kitchen. a lady came and kissed on the palm of a guy seated on the lounge, they talked and disappeared behind the bar. ok i can’t handle it, better try for a nap in my room, but failed to get in. on the stair case a guy with a lady landed from their motobyke. bang bang bang a big hit struck in my head, what the hell i’m doing here. left, right, ups and down everybody in their room with ladies and we know what they are doing behind the closed door. and what i’m doing here? hunting around road to road under the hot sun, for what?

there were a lady working in the hotel seems eager to provide service if i ask for that. but i’v a bitter experience in tashkant(uzbekistan). inviting a hotel girl in my room on my first day. later whenever i brought lady from outside i got to mange jealous attitude from the hotel girl. so i skipped the hotel option for my last deserted day in udon. i didn’t enter in the room and return back desperately to soi 2 (soi 7 is hopeless).

on my 2nd round i got my luck here. skipped the first group because at a glance i found nothing was charmed to me. there were a tout standing beside the 2nd group of 2/3 ladies. the only one tiny and skinny fitted in her pant showing interest to me. i asked the pimp is there no ladies more? he lead me to his hut made of wood plunk, closer roof, dark and sheet hole type. but i didn’t find anything better than the skinny one. it was not the thing normally i used for but right now i want a lady in my room to make the time fruitful as i have. the tout asked 500bht for in house use. need less to say my scary feelings denied using their room. i offered 400bht in my hotel room. the tout finally agreed and we three moved to our hotel using his motobyke.

before the evening i picked two more girls from the same street, using the same motobyke but never paid any for the transportation. but paid 500bht each time. there are some reasons to bringing girls in my room. first i didn’t like their hut and second i have the opportunity to wash the girl thoroughly. may be i can get girls less than i’v paid off, if i agreed to use their place. but i will loose the cleaning ness, what was important for me. ****d girl was never been listed in my fancy and the pimp several time insisted to pick one of them. i denied every time, who is going to do dirty business with the police!

i hv also visited soi 7 for the 2nd and last round. this time a guy called me to enter his shop. ladies? i say yes. he jumped on his bike with me and we both started to explore the houses he knows. first house we entered there were two girls available, one was looks icy and not interested on me. the 2nd one was bubbly but has fat in her bally making off to me. we visited couple of empty houses and finally we agreed mongering in this street is completely dead now.

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[Mua Tur]

From the bus stop The Tuk Tuk carried me to Top Mansion for 40 bht. And it was within few minuets. Later I realized within the action zone the standard tuk tuk price is this. But u can pull it down for 30bht if u r a bit bargainer. It was 9.30a.m and wow what a welcome scene was waiting for me. There were two guys with two ladies departing the hotel. May be they were traveling around with their car likely with a single lady and were leaving the other one. She was dark and quite stunning with a bit aged. After leaving the guys once I thought to call the lady and may offer her for the rest of the day. But the hotel was full house and there were no room to spare for me. Moreover the front desk is not sure after 12.00p.m. any availability is there or not.

What I’v to do now? Still I don’t hv any room and if the lady agreed with my offer I’v to carry two heavy baggages until my room to be booked. Since I’m first traveler and I can’t take any chances hunting around for room until 12.0p.m. with two baggage. So I’v to leave one and decided let the lady go.

Again Tuk Tuk and arrived at Ruy Suk Mension. Same story no room available but there are chances if I wait up to 12.00p.m. may be there are a room will be available for me. I decided to wait because it was been advised by Opebo and later it found very effective for my mongering aspects.

Finally I entered in my room after 12.00p.m in Ruy Suk Mension at Adunyaded rd for 350bht a night. Surprisingly I was not tired enough and decided to roam around in day time before the evening start. Arrived in reception and found Mr. Joe very supportive and don’t feel bother to serve info. He supplied a map and marked by a pen the action zone (for evening), Soi 2 and Soi 7. He informed now I’l not be able to find any luck and I’v to wait for couple of hours.

OK whatever it is, I need to see the zone(s) and will be happy enough to be more familiar with the places in day time.

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[Mua Tur]

Yes Simian has a good point about the sleeper train, though the second class (air or non-air) is perfectly adequate at just over (for air) and just under (for non-air) half the price of the first class compartment. But keep in mind that for this you need to book a little in advance, perhaps 3-4 days.

My advices to Mua Tur were based on the idea that he was on a budget and didn't have time to make reservations ahead and wait in Bangkok. Chan Tour is the way to go to Udon in those circumstances.

Yeah U did the right thing what I sked for and worked nicely. Thnx for that.

However I would like to dispute the notion that it is preferable to wait in the bus station for a bus that will arrive in the early morning. Far better to get on the bus immediately - even if you arrive in the middle of the night, a hotel room is only 300-400 baht and then you can sleep comfortably for a few hours before lunch. It never makes sense to wait in the bus station if a hotel could possibly await at the end of journey.

May be u r right for those who r already experienced about Udon. Remember this was my first visit guided by only the info provided by u and the forum. Now I'm sure I'l not harm myself and will be offer myself a smooth journy.

[Mart Cham]

Yes Simian has a good point about the sleeper train, though the second class (air or non-air) is perfectly adequate at just over (for air) and just under (for non-air) half the price of the first class compartment. But keep in mind that for this you need to book a little in advance, perhaps 3-4 days.

I think 2nd class is much better value than 1st class too. Paid 490 bahts last time for fan sleeper in 2nd class from Udon to BKK which I booked the same day as departure. My advice: never ever book aircon sleeper, done it a few times in the past, feckin freezing.
I don't remember the price in 1st class but I'd rather fly to Udon than buy a 1st class ticket. With a few days advance, flight bookings are not necessarily more expensive than 1st class train tickets.

However I would like to dispute the notion that it is preferable to wait in the bus station for a bus that will arrive in the early morning. Far better to get on the bus immediately - even if you arrive in the middle of the night, a hotel room is only 300-400 baht and then you can sleep comfortably for a few hours before lunch. It never makes sense to wait in the bus station if a hotel could possibly await at the end of journey.

Completely agree. Especially for places like Udon where finding a cheap and decent hotel is not an issue at all, even in the middle of the night. I think this is true for almost all cities and towns in Thailand by the way.

[Opebo]

Yes Simian has a good point about the sleeper train, though the second class (air or non-air) is perfectly adequate at just over (for air) and just under (for non-air) half the price of the first class compartment. But keep in mind that for this you need to book a little in advance, perhaps 3-4 days.

My advices to Mua Tur were based on the idea that he was on a budget and didn't have time to make reservations ahead and wait in Bangkok. Chan Tour is the way to go to Udon in those circumstances.

However I would like to dispute the notion that it is preferable to wait in the bus station for a bus that will arrive in the early morning. Far better to get on the bus immediately - even if you arrive in the middle of the night, a hotel room is only 300-400 baht and then you can sleep comfortably for a few hours before lunch. It never makes sense to wait in the bus station if a hotel could possibly await at the end of journey.

[Simian]

I can’t blame to anybody for my stupidity to choose bus service in place of air (while it was known that there were air service also available for Udon). I started strolling around the terminal to kill a long 5hrs. I know the expats like Opebo or others what supposed to do to kill the time. They will arrive any joint for hobbyist nearby the terminal and will be capable to arrive within the right time. But I was not able to do anything like that only just find there were some bus service also available for Patt from Mochit also.

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Not only did you not take the flying option, usually for less than 2,000 one way, you also did not take the other option which was the overnight train. Here you take the train (which I think leaves BKK at about 8pm) ensuring that you get 1st class for about 1,300baht one way. This gives you a separate 2 bunk compartment - frequently you will have the compartment to yourself. You can also check out the bar on the train where you can smoke (windows are open) and drink large bottles of Singha for about 120baht a go. Bar usually closes at about 10.30pm. Train arrives in Udon Thani at about 7.30am or so, if memory serves me right.

[Mua Tur]

It’s better to say that the taxi driver pulled me out with my baggage over the center fence of the road at top floor of Suvarnabhumi airport. When we arrived at Mochit Bus Terminal it was around 6.0 p.m. and the meter shows 270bht to pay (It was not express way and I choose the normal way). Opebo told me to find “Chang Tour”, they have specious bus and good service. When I asked the said tour service none of at the information desk got my spell. OK it’s my fault. I wrote on a piece of paper the “Chang Tour” oh yeah they got very straight it is “Chan Tower” some thing like that. Ok Ok I’l be able to find out the counter no.113.

The ladies in the counter was warm and seen very kind to me even I found very difficult to communicate with them with my English. I told the lady pls confirm my ticket on arriving at 8.0 a.m on the next day. It was 6.0 p.m. and I can’t make myself more stupid to arrive at Udon in the middle of night after traveling a long 8hrs. Since, it was my first visit for the place. Finally the lady confirmed my ticket and advises me to appear at 11.00 p.m. so she personally can escort me on board at terminal no. 19 & 21.

I can’t blame to anybody for my stupidity to choose bus service in place of air (while it was known that there were air service also available for Udon). I started strolling around the terminal to kill a long 5hrs. I know the expats like Opebo or others what supposed to do to kill the time. They will arrive any joint for hobbyist nearby the terminal and will be capable to arrive within the right time. But I was not able to do anything like that only just find there were some bus service also available for Patt from Mochit also.

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[Opebo]

Lastly regarding going early - its not always the case that this is beneficial. At brothel sois later is just as good as earlier

One does tend to get "sloppy seconds" when going later!

That doesn't bother me one little bit. Share it - it won't wear out!

[Mart Cham]

From the market in the city go to the right along the river about 2km's or near the end of road when you see beer belly billy's it is two shop's back if you get a map you will see beer belly billy's on it.

Ther is about 6 or more girls in ther. I think about 300 b/f 500 s/t 1000 L/t

OK thanks but with only 6+ girls available it's also likely that nobody takes my fancy. Besides, the rates you mention are by no means different from standard Udon rates for bargirls. Anyway I will have a look at the place.