2007 Bangkok Hotels

[Member #3428]

The 5 stars in BKK are really getting greedy at the same time their service level is declining.....It is just a shame that service is down at the same time prices have gone up so much.

Yup, I agree completely. I much prefer smaller hotels in BKK if I have a choice and admit I do like Livingstones when I'm paying my own dime. I just get better personalized service at the smaller places. I've been following the boutique hotel's on this thread too to see how they are also.

My work decides where I stay and they got cranky about somethings at the so called higher end hotels so they've been putting me in serviced apartments for a long time now. I only need a bed and bathroom but I will admit it's nice having a full apartment with living room, dining room, bedroom, kitchen, etc... and the rates they give the firms are about 2,500 to 3,500 baht. Contract rate with Landmark was more then that on a crappy room. And as I said they serviced apartments I've been at are completely girl friendly.

I was put in a new place in two weeks on Soi 8 I'm missing BKK and it's only been three weeks since I left......

[Thor93]

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]

When I was housed in hotels in BKK, I thought JW and Westin were charging above what they gave in service for me. I enjoy both brands in some other cities but not in BKK, just don't see the cost benefit to them. And I have no idea of what current costs are but I did see what Landmark tried to charge the other day and was a shocked. You could get a room and a LT girl for that price at many great locations in BKK.

The 5 stars in BKK are really getting greedy at the same time their service level is declining. I have about 70 stays at the Grand Hyatt over the last 15 years and it definitely is not the hotel it used to be as far as service goes.

I just did my expense report and see that they charge 117 baht just to dial the AT&T USA Direct line which is supposed to be a toll free call in Thailand. 24 hour internet access is 717 baht. What really pissed me off was that the TGF brought her laptop and logged in on the same line and they charged me twice for the same 24 hours. I complained but they said you only get to use one computer. We went down to Spasso's one night and for a total of 4 drinks I got charged 1300 baht.

They really pissed the TGF off, because we asked for an iron and ironing board every day and they removed it every day. They had never done that before, you ask once and it stays in the room until you leave or you ask them to take it away. The TGF used to go up to the Club lounge, but after sitting there for an hour being ignored, she won't go in there again. She has been going there alone for the 3 years we have been together and never had a problem before.

My discounted rate is 5600 a night. It used to only be 3500. If the company was not paying, I would not go there anymore. There are plenty of other places in Bangkok that offer more for less. But the location is good and Spasso's does offer some interesting opportunities at times. It is just a shame that service is down at the same time prices have gone up so much.

[Daddy San]

I am actually considering staying at the Star Inn for a week in February.

And yes, I do intend to bring TGs and probably a multi-day GF, but I also want to be able to sleep (alone) undisturbed if I choose.

What are the rooms like?

Do all rooms have mirrors?

Is the fact, that it is a ST hotel in any way a problem for a quiet day or two?

[M P Lurker]

Btw, what's the Star Inn like? Decent view out the windows? Are the rooms decent? . Majestic Suites like?

Click on "Search this Thread", enter this
"Star Inn"
including the quote marks, so that you won't get a hit on just Star, and go.
Here is an example of a report you will find:
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...Inn#post458252

Its that easy. It might not answer very specific questions but at least a general impression can be found.

[PinkPearl]

As for the walk of shame, that is unavoidable in most upscale hotels. The hotel and its staff are not the problem. It is the Western women that give you the dirty looks when you walk in with some sweet young thing.

Give the lady your room number and tell her to come in 5 minutes, avoiding the walk of shame altogether.

[Redfield10]

Btw, what's the Star Inn like? Decent view out the windows? Are the rooms decent? . Majestic Suites like?

[Redfield10]

I'm hoping I get the Majestic Suites, but if it's full for my Feb. Timelines, I"m looking for a "similar" type hotel in that same area. I'm not thrilled about the Everrich because of the "no windows" or "crappy view" thing.

I'm looking to spend 40-60. And I'd like to be no further down than about Soi 8 or so.

Any ideas?

Thanks

[Member #3428]

[QUOTE=Thor93]

I totally agree with you for the most part. The dirty looks don't bother me as much as the TGF. She notices it and hates it, because she thinks they are thinking she is a working girl. The most fun is getting in an elevator with some Western whale and her husband. The wife is glaring at me and my TGF, but I can see the husband is thinking how much he would love to be in my shoes. .....The advantage of going with working girls is that the equation is a one time deal well understood by all. You truly do pay them to leave. Much harder to do that with a TGF who does not view herself as a working girl.

Very true.... especially about getting rid of a TGF IMHO, had a bad experience with this recently.

Since this is the hotel thread, from my experiences this past year... serviced apartments treat the ladies with great respect and I've not had a problem. Never a walk of shame and never a problem at the gym or pool with the TGF. Mostly Somerset Properties have all been wonderful. Even when I was sneaking in a short time girl while the TGF was out and asking the staff to remake up the room it was no problem.

Only time I ever had any issue (looks) was when I did not have a TGF and that was at the breakfast tables when the other wives seeing a different girl every morning. However the breakfast staff was wonderful about it and had a great time with me and the girls. Every morning the waitresses would give me a rating of 1-10 on the past nights companion.

When I was housed in hotels in BKK, I thought JW and Westin were charging above what they gave in service for me. I enjoy both brands in some other cities but not in BKK, just don't see the cost benefit to them. And I have no idea of what current costs are but I did see what Landmark tried to charge the other day and was a shocked. You could get a room and a LT girl for that price at many great locations in BKK.

[Thor93]

[QUOTE=Seydlitz]

Why would the looks, dirty or otherwise, given by silly old western hags be of any relevance to any of us? Or even younger, relatively doable but high maintenance Western chicks?

On the contrary, Thailand is a heavenly place where Farang men can demonstrate that their fellow countrywomen are most completely replaceable with younger, sexier and funnier alternatives, and that consequently the old blackmail of gifts, candy, romantic evenings and generally poodle behaviour in return for sex that is prevailing in Farangland is uttely non-workable anymore.

This must be the source of the dirty looks you mention, and that is priceless.

I totally agree with you for the most part. The dirty looks don't bother me as much as the TGF. She notices it and hates it, because she thinks they are thinking she is a working girl. The most fun is getting in an elevator with some Western whale and her husband. The wife is glaring at me and my TGF, but I can see the husband is thinking how much he would love to be in my shoes.

Still, lets be realistic and understand that the young Thai girls are not going with us older Western guys completely out of the goodness of their hearts. Having played on both sides of the fence in Thailand with working and non-working girls, in the end they all want to be taken care of one way or the other. It may not always be money, but the dynamics between men and women is a universal equation for the most part where the women look for the man who can in the end provide the most.

The advantage of going with working girls is that the equation is a one time deal well understood by all. You truly do pay them to leave. Much harder to do that with a TGF who does not view herself as a working girl.

[Seydlitz]

[QUOTE=Thor93]

As for the walk of shame, that is unavoidable in most upscale hotels. The hotel and its staff are not the problem. It is the Western women that give you the dirty looks when you walk in with some sweet young thing.

Why would the looks, dirty or otherwise, given by silly old western hags be of any relevance to any of us? Or even younger, relatively doable but high maintenance Western chicks?

On the contrary, Thailand is a heavenly place where Farang men can demonstrate that their fellow countrywomen are most completely replaceable with younger, sexier and funnier alternatives, and that consequently the old blackmail of gifts, candy, romantic evenings and generally poodle behaviour in return for sex that is prevailing in Farangland is uttely non-workable anymore.

This must be the source of the dirty looks you mention, and that is priceless.

[Member #2041]

Far be it for me to warn you off of the JW Marriott Bangkok - I happen to really like the place. I also think that it is MUCH the best individual hotel in the entire Marriott chain, so I wouldn't let your perception (accurate, IMHO) that most Marriotts are too cold and business-like in ambience warn you off the place - it's simply not the case with THIS Marriott - and the staff is the most warm and professional that I have ever encountered in any Marriott anywhere. And when this overweight, greying 46-year-old farang walked in with a 20-something Thai hottie, she was consistently treated as much as a valued guest of the establishment as was I, the one paying the bill - even if she was the 4th different young Thai hottie I walked in with over 2 days.

In any case, I also think highly of the Sheraton Grande and Plaza Athenee - but, IMHO, so long as you don't need to be at all removed from the action for purposes of other non-mongering rendezvous, the location of the JW Marriott is the most convenient of all - although just a bit further from the BTS than those others.

[Strike1]

All things considered, I think that the best upscale places in terms of everything, but especially location, are the JW Marriott, the Sheraton Grande, the Landmark, and the Plaza Athenee, then the Westin. The Marriott and the Landmark are essentially at ground zero, the Sheraton and Westin are pretty darn close to Soi Cowboy, and the Plaza Athenee is around a 15 minute walk to Nana, or a less than 5 minute walk to the BTS. Plaza Athenee has virtually no walk of shame, as the elevators are right near the entrance, whereas the other places all require you to cross the lobby. Westin has the worst walk of shame, as you really need to traverse TWO public lobbies. But IMHO, the walk of shame is a very minor point. I also think that the Hyatt is rather far from the action other than at it's own bars, although not as far as the hotels by the river.

Incidentally, pretty much all of the 5* places are guest friendly, but some do have dress codes, so if you like to wear gym shorts and a t-shirt, and/or you pick up obviously slutty looking, cheaply dressed bar girls, that can be an issue.

That's great feedback. I am cancelling the Marriott reservation and booking the Sheraton. Thanks for the input.

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[Member #2041]

All things considered, I think that the best upscale places in terms of everything, but especially location, are the JW Marriott, the Sheraton Grande, the Landmark, and the Plaza Athenee, then the Westin. The Marriott and the Landmark are essentially at ground zero, the Sheraton and Westin are pretty darn close to Soi Cowboy, and the Plaza Athenee is around a 15 minute walk to Nana, or a less than 5 minute walk to the BTS. Plaza Athenee has virtually no walk of shame, as the elevators are right near the entrance, whereas the other places all require you to cross the lobby. Westin has the worst walk of shame, as you really need to traverse TWO public lobbies. But IMHO, the walk of shame is a very minor point. I also think that the Hyatt is rather far from the action other than at it's own bars, although not as far as the hotels by the river.

Incidentally, pretty much all of the 5* places are guest friendly, but some do have dress codes, so if you like to wear gym shorts and a t-shirt, and/or you pick up obviously slutty looking, cheaply dressed bar girls, that can be an issue.

[Member #3428]

I would like to recommend Agoda
as a good way of Internet booking Hotels.

Here is a useful web page showing many Hotels (but not all)
on Suk Road.
http://www.agoda.com/MapManagement/M...?area_id=27713

Mick

Nice map, work posts me in apartments usually and I have little choice in the decision but friends have gotten some nice places through http://www.latestays.com/ as well.

[Heehaw]

After staying at Livingstone's for the past week, I'd like to compare the experience to staying at the Landmark hotel about two years ago. The superior room at Livingstone's was better than the superior room at Landmark (both in about the middle range of their respective rooms). Livingstone's was bigger, had a much better bed, better quality finishing materials (like to floor) and was newer. The only area where Landmark excelled was the glass enclosed stall versus the hand sprayer and holder in the bathtub at Livingstone's. Of course both hotels offer convenient access to the Skytrain. At Livingstone's you feel like part of a (sophisticated) family and have everything you need for care and feeding plus the Sports Bar which is uniquely accomodating with its many attractive and available girls and very hrlpful mamasan. The girls in Livingstone's are just as attractive as any on Soi 33 (the artist bar street) and friendly without being pushy. Bottom line, when traveling alone or with male friends, I much prefer Livingstone's over Landmark, not to mention the price advantage (about ahlf the cost).

Been there, done that.--- Livingstone's has fine rooms, but staying there is way too much drama! Try Dream hotel down on Soi 15. Friendly toward company, great Thai and Western breakfast, rooms very cool.-- and close to almost anything Sukhumvit has to offer.