2006 Thai Women - Opinions & Advice

[JuiceSpike]

JZ,

I think you are trying to reason with a guy that has lost reasoning. But, you never know, he just might be right about this girl. What he might not get is that if he thinks we are making fun of him it's peanuts compared to what the Thai girls might really think of him.

Hav,

Where else can you post and be taken seriously? Nobody is going to take you seriously until you take yourself seriously. You mean well but you are missing the point of this forum. You have been posting on the "Thai Women - Opinions & Advice" section. What did you expect? Flowers?

juices

[Retired Army]

Where's the best area in LOS to meet nice women (a wife)?

Any place othen than Nana, Patpong, Soi Cowboy, Pattaya or Phuket. Get out of the tourist areas, see the real Thailand, experience the real Thai hospitality and lifestyle. Make Thai friends.

The best way to meet "nice Thai girls" is through an introduction by another Thai who can recommend you as a decent person, not a farang sex tourist.

[PosterLion]

Hey Guys,

Do you remember my "cry for help", concerning Dick Johnson? Havrum sounds exactly like him, to a T!

I won't be surprised if he suddenly accuses someone of bonking his trophy girl.

But I'm glad Hav keeps writing about his beloved. It gives you fellas an idea how frustrating it was trying to convince DJ of his pussy addiction.

poster...

[Joe Zop]

Havrum, all that trumping things up and being arrogant does is absolutely beg to be given more criticism. I don't know what other kind of response you expect, really -- you originally came in here and asked for advice, which when given was pretty well on the mark, and then you argued with and ignored it, then you admitted it was mostly correct, and pretty well every post you make ends up giving contradictory indications about your state of mind. You're completely over this woman but she's the only one you're seeing. You're say you're beyond caring but you keep referring to boyfriend/girlfriend scenarios. You're not in the least emotionally attached but, heavens, she's not only a supermodel but a rocket scientist who can discuss fine art, literature and high finance while simultaneously banging your brains out. You're just using her for sex but by gosh she's changing so she can be with you, and maybe you'll go do something to make her become even more emotionally attached to you. Your posts have been filled with contractictions not simply of late but from the very beginning and people have been calling you on them.

As long as you keep trumpeting the wonders and uniqueness of your situation you're going to get hammered. As long as you keep posting all doe-eyed about the special wonderfulness of this TG you're going to get hammered. As long as she's the only subject on which you post you're going to get hammered. Why? Because, as I've said before, combined with your history of self-deception as far as this woman goes, you sound like nothing other than a schmuck on a ride. As far as anyone here can tell, the only advice you've at all heard or heeded (if indeed you have even done that) is to take care of your visa problem.

It has nothing to do with this being a forum about prostitution -- there have been any number of high-level and intelligent discussions in this thread in the past, and there have been any number of posters who've discussed the Thai women they're with without getting ragged on. It has to do with your posts here being the very cliche of newbie foolishness, to the point where you've actually convinced some people that you're a troll because your posts seem that calculated to incite.

Try to step back for a moment and read through the entire history of your posts in this thread and see if you can see what I'm talking about. If you can't see it, then you might be correct that it would save you a ton of abuse to refrain from posting. I'm a born romantic and my dealings with Thai women have been largely like my dealings with all other women in that they've been overwhelmingly positive, so I'm not coming from a "woman is evil, beware" perspective. I've also got no bad feelings about women who get men on a string -- people do what they do to survive and get money, and the product these women hawk is eminently more satisfying than many other kinds.

But I and others in this forum would simply be remiss if we were not to warn someone obliviously walking train tracks that something large and fast-moving shows up on a fairly regular basis. You just consistently argue with the messengers, tell them they don't understand and that you know better and you keep ignoring the message, which is why people keep turning up the rhetoric.

[Pedro Chilli]

Havrum, I think thanks are in order.

Reading through this thread should be compulsory for all of us suckers who fall for the little darlings, Thai, Kenyan, whatever, just before we embark on another trip, as I am about to do.

But seriously, come on man, theres thousands of them out there, why settle for one?

[Dinghy]

lao khun la... bai dee, ma dee

[Havrum]

Joe Zop, how else am I to respond to the constant criticism, ridicule and mocking by all the members here other than to trump up things like how hot I think she is and be a little arrogant. My posts have been polite, well meaning and well written, but what kind of treatment can I expect from a forum about prostitution.

As I said before I enjoy writing about things happening in my life and I'm sure many of you enjoy reading what I've wrote. I've already said 5 times for the past month that I'm just with this girl for sex, yet everyone keeps spewing out the same old jokes, or they say like you are so stupid to fall in love with her (again, already been over that 5 times).

Anyways this is tiresome, and if this is the only level of dialogue that that this forum is capable of then I'll not waste my time anymore and share my adventures in other places.

[Thaid Up]

Sorry Old Thai Hand you must be out of the loop to what is really happening in Thailand now a days. Most and I mean most Thai girls are shuffling 3 to 4 sexual partners. One is the steady Thai boyfriend that Dad and Mom's know about. Sometimes he may be getting sex, but many times not. Then there are the additional 2-3 Giks (Fuck Buddies) for her recreation. The Giks may be other Thai guys or foriegn guys or a combination of both. While Thai girls do not like one night stands, the 3 date interview process is to determine if you are someone who will be around or travel into Thailand on a steady basis to become Gik material.

The facade of the good Thai Girl is in the minority <10% bracket and can be put into the same category as a Thai smiling is always happy. You just have to realise the "I want to get Fucked" smile from the "good" Thai girl. Wink. Wink.

[Catmonger]

Whew, is it hot in here or just me? Anyway, while I await Havrums pic post I'd like to change to an old reliable topic.

Where's the best area in LOS to meet nice women (a wife)?

I got a lot of attention in Surin, but the north is a curiosity for me. Has anyone here experienced it lately or heard recent reviews? Thailand has changed in 12 years, have rural town girls become less sweet and feminine?

[Old Thai Hand]

So, a girl who's parents or grandparents made enough quick money to stop working the paddyfields and were able to send her to a 'posh' uni is better looking, more virtuous, etc, than the 'farm girls' whos grandparents used to share water bottles with hers? This class act fucks a middle-aged farang on the third meet, and she she is top wife-material? Oh, right, ok. Where can we find these girls? Oh, I forgot, you already told us.[/QUOTE]

TT

Ya. I suppose it sounds contradictory.
I didn't however make a class distinction here. I was talking later on about the students at university being hot, as an answer to the question of Havrum's girl being the ultimate. But my reference to regular Thai girls not sleeping around applies to most non-BG Thai girls whether farm-girls or HiSo. My averaging three dates before I have slept with someone doesn't imply that these girls sleep around, though. Many more take longer than that. I didn't just 'F and F' them either, because these girls don't do that. I went out with most of them afterwards for some time as a girlfriend. So, there was a huge element of trust that allowed for the sex to happen in the first place. Sleeping around implies one-night stands. Thai girls just don't do that. It takes some work and committment like in any normal life situation to get most Thai girls to sleep with you. Like anywhere, there are easy girls and not so easy. But, in Thailand, girls tend to be much less sexually active in terms of multiple partners. I've met countless girls in their late 20s and even 30s who have only slept with one guy in their lives, usually a Thai BF. I've also met a surprising number of virgins, in their late 20s, 30s and even older, still living at home with their parents. Its one of the dichotomies of TGs that they take longer to have sex with than a western girl when dating, but their are many more available, which gives the impression that it's easier to get pussy here than elsewhere among regular Thai girls.

[Freeler]

Joe,

On a roll, what?

[Terry Terrier]

[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]CLEARLY YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT REAL THAI GIRLS, THEY DEFINITELY DON'T SLEEP AROUND.....

QUOTE you might not be able to have sex until the sixth time youve dated her QUOTE

POSSIBLY (MY AVERAGE IS THREE, BUT SOME TAKE LONGER)..... /QUOTE]

Ouch!!! my ears hurt!

Kind of a contradiction there, OTH.

So, a girl who's parents or grandparents made enough quick money to stop working the paddyfields and were able to send her to a 'posh' uni is better looking, more virtuous, etc, than the 'farm girls' whose grandparents used to share water bottles with hers? This class act fucks a middle-aged farang on the third meet, and she she is top wife-material? Oh, right, ok. Where can we find these girls? Oh, I forgot, you already told us.

[Old Thai Hand]

The only novelty of the situation is that I'm getting a prostitute to fuck me for free...[/QUOTE]

WOW!!! DO YOU THINK YOU'RE THE FIRST?

Hot young girls anywhere just don't grow on trees...[/QUOTE]

IN THAILAND, BELIEVE ME THEY DO.
I'VE NEVER SEEN A BARGIRL YET, NO MATTER WHERE SHE CAME FROM AND NO MATTER HOW HOT SHE WAS WHO COMES CLOSE TO MOST OF THE GIRLS IN MY CLASSES AND I TEACH HUNDREDS OF GIRLS EVERY SEMESTER. MY STUDENTS AREN'T JUST SMOKIN' DUDE, THEY'RE ON FIRE!

...they like to sleep around and change guys like mongers change hos. [/QUOTE]

CLEARLY YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT REAL THAI GIRLS. THEY DEFINITELY DON'T SLEEP AROUND.

The girl is interested only in a serious relationship [/QUOTE]

TRUE. BUT SO ARE MOST BARGIRLS, AT LEAST SO FAR AS THEY CAN FLEECE YOU. ANYWAY, DIDN'T YOU SAY, AT LEAST IN THE BEGINNING THAT YOU WANTED A SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS GIRL?

you might not be able to have sex until the 6th time youve dated her [/QUOTE]

POSSIBLY (MY AVERAGE IS THREE, BUT SOME TAKE LONGER). BUT, WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? THAT'S WHAT REAL LIFE IS ALL ABOUT...NOT THE FANTASY WORLD YOU'VE DELUDED YOURSELF INTO THINKING IS REAL. AT LEAST YOU'LL KNOW A REGULAR GIRL IS NOT FUCKING SEVERAL OTHER GUYS WHILE TELLING YOU THAT YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE IN HER LIFE.

you'll have to lavish a ton of money on her in the form of indirect expenses once you are fucking her (i.e. dates, gifts, etc) [/QUOTE]

AGAIN, POSSIBLY. ALTHOUGH, I HAVEN'T HAD TO DO SO YET AND I'VE DATED A LOT OF THAI GIRLS. IN ANY EVENT, IT'S STILL A LOT CHEAPER THAN WHAT YOU'LL PAY IN THE LONG RUN WITH A BARGIRL AND YOU'RE SIMPLY GETTING SOMEONE WHO IS BETTER IN EVERY WAY.


I have fucked a lot of girls from discos and bars for free but they had one of the following disadvantges 95% of the time [/QUOTE]

YOU MAKE THESE DECLARATIVE STATEMENTS WHEN YOU ARE A NEWBIE AND REALLY KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THIS COUNTRY. GIRLS THAT SOMEONE LIKE YOU CAN PICK UP IN A BAR OR DISCO SO EASILY ARE PROBABLY OF THE SAME CALIBRE AS THE HO YOU WORSHIP SO MUCH.


Joe Zop

Perhaps CB will even be so kind as to post a really long series of gyno shots so we can all have a good time counting the perfect grains of sand. [/QUOTE]

HAHAHAHA...FUCKING BRILLIANT POST!!!!

[Joe Zop]

havrum, just out of curiousity, what does being smoking hot have to do with anything? you throw it out like it's some kind of trump card that makes everything else irrelevant. pussywhipped and foolish is pussywhipped and foolish, regardless of how hot the woman is, and in any event the pussywhipped rarely see clearly enough to have any sense of what's hot and what's not. i guarantee beyond a single solitary doubt that if/when you post a pic in the photo area here there will be more than one person who will say, "you've got to be kidding -- you think that's hot?"

yes, i've heard of this happening with bangkok area women, chiang mai women, etc. absolutely! and your characterization of "most" scheming issan prostitutes as being having been raped, mostly disturbed and stupid is both obnoxious and another example of your delusional idea that your hooker is somehow seriously "different." (gee, she now "might not have fucked a man for a couple of weeks" because she's undergoing real changes. what devotion! time to reactivate the chiang mai cohabitation plan!)

your silly characterization of "most freebies" is yet another attempt to paint your situation as "special" and it's sad in its straw-man desperation. of course no one else beside you could have a long-term freebie with other than a clingy dog! aren't you amazing once again! most other guys simply say, well, she's got a face like a meteor crater and a body that's come out of a retirement home, but, hot damn, she's free...

good luck on your quest to temporarily relocate your balls and actually go rent another tg for a few hours, regardless of whether or not it pisses off your beloved smoking hot sex worker. that's what i call independence. perhaps you'll get lucky and find still more true love.

and since you're past the point where you care, how about being useful and letting other punters here know where to find your "rare, unspoiled gem of an island" so they can play on her 1500-2000 baht long time beach and decide whether or not it's worth sticking their flag in her as countless others have done? perhaps cb will even be so kind as to post a really long series of gyno shots so we can all have a good time counting the perfect grains of sand.

[Retired Army]

I have one question for all the punters? Have you ever heard a story of a farang getting ripped off in a long term relationship who was with a girl from outside of the Isan region, like from Bangkok, Chiang Mai or some urban area? Frankly all these stories I hear (I've read some bargirl book with horror stories as well) all the girls are from backwater, [CodeWord140] poor parts of Isan.

Yes, I have heard many. It's just a matter of numbers. Since most of the girls who work in the "business" are from Isan, an economically depressed area, you naturally hear more stories about them. But I know many girls from other parts of the county, BKK included, who would clean out your bank account in an instant.

It's hard to find a "true heart" when you are hanging around Nana or Soi Seven. Get out of the tourist areas and meet some nice girls. Sure it's harder than getting girls from the Beer Garden, but well worth the effort.