2007 Thai Women - Opinions & Advice

**Old Thai Hand** · 09-04-07 04:15

Originally Posted by Dan7373

As you said, the lady HAS to take care of her relatives. And this means that you are asking for trouble, when you start a relationship with a Thai lady and then don't help her out as much as she needs.

The solution is not to get involved with some poor, uneducated farm-girl from Isaan who has to support her dead-beat family and the immediate world that surrounds them.

I can assure you that, if you start a relationship with a girl from a good family, the "Farang as a walking ATM" factor doesn't play a role at all.

**Old Thai Hand** · 09-04-07 04:13

Originally Posted by The Traveler

OTH,

what exactly do you mean by "MORE OPEN" ?
Please explain

More open sexually and more open to relationships with Farang...and I'm not speaking of Isaan girls, either who've always been open to relationships with Farang... but, girls from the more "Farang-resistant" areas of Thailand (Central Plains, including BKK, Northern Lanna region, and South).

**The Traveler** · 09-03-07 23:31

Originally Posted by Russell Crowe

I will be here a few years and have some time to try and get a local GF.

I have taken a real cutie non P4P out on a few dates and have been getting some mixed messages. Whenever we go out, I have a great time and we end up talking for hours and she seems genuinely interested. She has even called me to initiate a date. However, she insists on paying for things and has not been real interested in physical contact.

For those with experience, is she just waiting to get to know me better? Or am I destined for the let's be friends scenario?

Russell Crowe,

why ask us instead of her ?

Tell her that you would like to know her "better" and ask her straight away. Many girls appreciate honesty and as long as you are polite and don't take a decline personal everything will be fine. Why waste time ?

**The Traveler** · 09-03-07 23:26

Originally Posted by Old Thai Hand

...TGs are just more open than even 5 years ago.

OTH,

what exactly do you mean by "MORE OPEN" ?
Please explain

**Dan7373** · 09-03-07 03:00

Originally Posted by Catmonger

These women will utterly fool even the most well-travelled and intelligent among us. The venus fly trap comes to mind, when I think of the deception and betrayal I've seen, read of, and experienced.
.....

These ladies HAVE TO take care of mom and the grandkids that mom cares for while daughter(s) work in BKK. It's how they are wired and it's all good. Just because it's not in line with western thinking and behaviour does not make it less ethical. Just different.

I've spent some time in Thailand's Isaan region. And I've seen a number of happily married farangs with their Thai families there. All of these guys have spent a lot of money in their Thai families. These guys have bought land, built new homes, and bought new pick up trucks for their Thai families. They've taken care of their Thai wives and any needy relatives their Thai wives felt obliged to help. And this is how they've achieved happy family relationships in Thailand.

The deceiving and the taking advantage of usually comes when you don't help your lady enough to take care of all her problems in life. When you help your lady only part-time. Then you shouldn't be surprised that she makes you a part-time partner of hers.

As you said, the lady HAS to take care of her relatives. And this means that you are asking for trouble, when you start a relationship with a Thai lady and then don't help her out as much as she needs.

**Retired Army** · 09-02-07 16:45

Originally Posted by Old Thai Hand

RA

I don't know how long ago that was. But, I'd say that things have changed significantly in recent years. I got my GF on the 2nd date and likewise another recently. In both cases, they come from good backgrounds and never had a Farang before. I think the fear factor about Farang size is less of an issue these days. TGs are just more open than even 5 years ago.

It was five years ago, damn maybe I don't know what I'm missing and I made a mistake. Isn't the grass is always greener in the other pasture? But I just can't explain who the Beatles were and why there's air to another Thai woman. And once the the saddle in broken in correctly, and it's comfortable, why get a new one that's all stiff and rough? Not to mention all the money I have invested in massage courses.

**Old Thai Hand** · 09-02-07 14:24

Originally Posted by Retired Army

It depends on how you feel about the girl. Took me six months to get my Thai GF (now wife) to spread her legs, but was worth the wait. When she wasn't putting out there were plenty of other opportunities so I didn't go without. One of the reasons she was so hesitant was because she had never been with a farang before and was afraid of my size.

RA

I don't know how long ago that was. But, I'd say that things have changed significantly in recent years. I got my GF on the 2nd date and likewise another recently. In both cases, they come from good backgrounds and never had a Farang before. I think the fear factor about Farang size is less of an issue these days. TGs are just more open than even 5 years ago.

**Retired Army** · 09-02-07 08:11

Originally Posted by Old Thai Hand

Generally, though if you're not getting any action at all after 3 or 4 dates, I'd move on and find someone else. There are plenty of regular TGs around.

It depends on how you feel about the girl. Took me six months to get my Thai GF (now wife) to spread her legs, but was worth the wait. When she wasn't putting out there were plenty of other opportunities so I didn't go without. One of the reasons she was so hesitant was because she had never been with a farang before and was afraid of my size.

**SlimHoleDrill** · 09-01-07 15:23

Originally Posted by Catmonger

These women will utterly fool even the most well-travelled and intelligent among us. The venus fly trap comes to mind, when I think of the deception and betrayal I've seen, read of, and experienced.

We don't stand a chance if they want to deceive us, ...

It's how they are wired and it's all good. Just because it's not in line with western thinking and behaviour does not make it less ethical. Just different.

Cat

Well said -- don't get ahead of yourself in these relationships.

Although, I guess I am feeling cynical this morning because this could be said of women around the world. They are wired differently. Maybe from another planet. For example, there is a lot of evidence supported by DNA studies done that show unbelievably high rates of non paternity.- the father in the family is not the real father. So it isn't just in Thailand.

**Old Thai Hand** · 08-27-07 14:52

Originally Posted by Russell Crowe

I will be here a few years and have some time to try and get a local GF.

I have taken a real cutie non P4P out on a few dates and have been getting some mixed messages. Whenever we go out, I have a great time and we end up talking for hours and she seems genuinely interested. She has even called me to initiate a date. However, she insists on paying for things and has not been real interested in physical contact.

For those with experience, is she just waiting to get to know me better? Or am I destined for the let's be friends scenario?

It depends on what a "few dates means", how old she is,, what her status is (re: her family...HiSo, MidSo etc.) whether she's had a BF before, whether you're the first Farang she's known.

Generally, though if you're not getting any action at all after 3 or 4 dates, I'd move on and find someone else. There are plenty of regular TGs around.

**Catmonger** · 08-27-07 12:51

Originally Posted by Mick Licker

AGREE/CORRECT châI NOT AGREE mâI châI
NO mâI (is the closest although Thais don't have a word for NO or YES)
GOOD MORNING sà-wàt-dee (no one says "à-roon sà-wàt")
SORRY sia jai GOODBYE laa gòrn
LEFT sáai RIGHT khwăa
MILK nom
100 nèung roi
Keep the change Mai dtong thorn
SPOON chórn
HOT rórn
PORK Moo
I don't understand mai khao jai
How much? Thâo rai or Gee Baht?
You Are Beautiful Khun soo-ay
Are you hungry? Hiw mai?
HOW MANY gèe un
Too expensive. Phaeng Bpai
Older BROTHER Phee Chai
Younger Brother Nong Chai
Younger SISTER nóng săao

MORE mark gwàa
LESS nói gwàa
SMALLER lek gwàa
Reducing nói long

Good work Mick Licker. The phrase books are sooo bad sometimes.
James Higbie, "Let's Speak Thai" is easier for me.

I'd add/alter:
how many, kii _____ (as in kii baht) Maybe a HARD g sound if gii

turn left, layo sai
turn right. layo kwah (easy for taxi meter)
here/close by here is good, tii nii

same same, chen kahn (or) muan kahn

**Catmonger** · 08-27-07 12:38

These women will utterly fool even the most well-travelled and intelligent among us. The venus fly trap comes to mind, when I think of the deception and betrayal I've seen, read of, and experienced.

We don't stand a chance if they want to deceive us, they are that good at it. Not all, yes there are exceptions, but there are valid generalizations to be aware of.

These girls will lie and deceive. Period. It's how Thais avoid conflict, save face, and just plain get away with what they want by taking the easy way. They're not direct by nature and can smile sincerely with zero perceptible signs of deception; eyebrows raised too long, glancing away from eye contact, fake yawn, blinking, etc.

Even the non-pros will decide to turn a trick and go back to their farang boyfriend/husband's condo and screw him as per typical. The guy thinks he's her god as the spooge from the payor dries in her panties.

Rent, don't buy the lie. Even country girls, maybe especially them, are not the sought-after "good girl". They will filet you like a fish as quickly as a BG from Bangers.

They will have multiple email accounts and feign internet ignorance. They will have multiple sim cards while they collect cash from multiple smart, good guys. And the scams will morph in a cat and mouse game that these schemers excell at. It's not racist, but societal diferences and pressures do exist. These ladies HAVE TO take care of mom and the grandkids that mom cares for while daughter(s) work in BKK. It's how they are wired and it's all good. Just because it's not in line with western thinking and behaviour does not make it less ethical. Just different.

**Russell Crowe** · 08-12-07 03:17

I will be here a few years and have some time to try and get a local GF.

I have taken a real cutie non P4P out on a few dates and have been getting some mixed messages. Whenever we go out, I have a great time and we end up talking for hours and she seems genuinely interested. She has even called me to initiate a date. However, she insists on paying for things and has not been real interested in physical contact.

For those with experience, is she just waiting to get to know me better? Or am I destined for the let's be friends scenario?

**Finrod** · 08-11-07 01:36

I'll add a couple of favorites (I don't have the keyboard for the accent marks):

kiss me - juup dai
sweetheart - waan jai

**M P Lurker** · 08-10-07 18:20

AGREE/CORRECT châI NOT AGREE mâI châI
NO mâI (is the closest although Thais don't have a word for NO or YES)
GOOD MORNING sà-wàt-dee (no one says "à-roon sà-wàt")
SORRY sia jai GOODBYE laa gòrn
LEFT sáai RIGHT khwăa
MILK nom
100 nèung roi
Keep the change Mai dtong thorn
SPOON chórn
HOT rórn
PORK Moo
I don't understand mai khao jai
How much? Thâo rai or Gee Baht?
You Are Beautiful Khun soo-ay
Are you hungry? Hiw mai?
HOW MANY gèe un
Too expensive. Phaeng Bpai
Older BROTHER Phee Chai
Younger Brother Nong Chai
Younger SISTER nóng săao

MORE mark gwàa
LESS nói gwàa
SMALLER lek gwàa
Reducing nói long

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