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12-31-07 03:41 #1406
Pattaya prices...
I would tend to agree that 2000 to 3000 is way on the high end for Pattaya and that is a price more so if you were in Bangkok rather in Pattaya. I could take two girls LT from a beer bar pay them and the bar fine for less then 3000 bahts. That's just my experience on my trips over the past three years visiting Thailand.
Originally Posted by Member #2041
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12-31-07 02:59 #1405
Norwegian beaten into coma in Pattaya
Pattaya, Chon Buri - A Norwegian tourist was beaten by four Thai men outside a bar here early Sunday morning.
Geir Andre Sirevag, 26, remained unconscious at the Pattaya Memorial Hospital.
Rescuers found his unconscious body in a bush behind the bar, police said.
A witness told police that the tourist was beaten up by four Thai men at 2:30 am and they carried his body into the bush and fled on motorcycles.
The Nation
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12-31-07 02:51 #1404
The Cost of doing business
I agree with this if ST is your thing but that's not what we are are taking about. We are talking about LT with bargirls who live in the bars. Not freelancers. I don't know of any bar that is welcoming to non-drinking (non)customers. Hell, you even get stink-eye if you just order a coke. Originally Posted by Member #2041
By the way, would you say that the education, equipment office space. Ect was not part of the cost of making money as a trader? Even if you trade online you have the cost of computer, internet acccess, and propriatary software. Ect.
Drinking not part of the cost? I think not.
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12-31-07 02:04 #1403That's way high. For starters, drinking is entirely optional, and not part of the cost of scoring pooyang. Secondly, I have found that freelancers are generally better than bar girls. When I'm in Pattaya, I never spend more than 2K on pussy, and that would only be if I took a ST during the day, and then a LT overnight. I usually pay about 600 per ST, including the baht bus. 600 baht is 18 bucks. Originally Posted by Clap Trap
I used to earn that in about 15 minutes, before I retired. Not counting my stock options.
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12-30-07 23:59 #1402
Too much work?
Too much work? I'll bet the majority of guys here agree with that. When I first saw the comment something about sent up a red flag but I didn't immediatly understand why. Made me start thinking about it all day and now, this morning it hit me.
How many of you guys ever really put any work into your relationships anyway? And what is the correlation between the amount of effort a man puts into his relationships versus the necessity to P4P?
Just a thought guys but I'd venture to say that the less we are inclined to do our part, the more we have to pay for play. Moreover, unless you get your money for free, you have to work for it.
When you give a girl money and add up the costs of drinks and barfine and in general, doing the monger crawl, you easily get to 2000-3000 baht just to score the right girl in an evening. How much work did you have to do to earn that money?
Peace and happy new year
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12-30-07 22:19 #1401
Ganya........................
The straws are getting shorter ! Can any members assist, re my earlier enquiry? A TG currently at the Mahal Kita claims she is currently having problems, re her new visa application.Any info appreciated.Thanks. Originally Posted by Kiwi 69
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12-30-07 10:03 #1400
Depends on how you look at it
Obviously, that post isn't for those who are simply here on holiday (I will be posting for those guys shortly). It is meant for those of us who have been here for a while and probably already have everything on the setup list. The exception might be 2 bedroom condo/home. However, and extra room in a condo averaging about 10, 000 baht more per month or in a house about 5000 baht more a month. Is cheaper than having to pay 1000-2000 baht every night for girl to stay with you.Your plan to get chicks for free seems to contradict with your goal to minimize the costs if you have to spend so much money (condo + kitchen + xbox + motorbike etc) to execute your plan. Besides it looks more like a job then fun, if you have to do so much.
Many people buy cheap used motorbikes here rather than rent when they first arrive. Just like I did. I used it the first couple of years until I was confident enough to dole out the cash for a new but I never sold the old one.
I know that a lot of you guys think that sex is the reason to be in Thailand but the reason that most ex-pats live in Thailand is because you can have a better quality of life here than in our home countries. Assuming you unlimited cash resources. So, while you may think it sounds expensive setup just for pussy you are living with the cash that you would otherwise be giving to one of the girls.
Peace
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12-29-07 22:58 #1399
Contradicting plan
Clap Trap,
Your plan to get chicks for free seems to contradict with your goal to minimize the costs if you have to spend so much money (condo + kitchen + xbox + motorbike etc) to execute your plan. Besides it looks more like a job then fun, if you have to do so much.
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12-29-07 16:53 #1398Secrets is not a go go. Originally Posted by Noemail1970
On your next trip try Taboo and Whats up a go go
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12-29-07 16:52 #1397
Clap-Trap's Guide To Unlimited Free Pussy In Pattaya
* note i think this is relevant in many places but particularly in pattaya because prices are low for thai girls here but the cost of living is high. also because bars open in the early afternoon and not the evening like in chiang mai or udon.
the set up.
1) a condo or house with 2 bedrooms
2) x box or equivalent
3) a stocked kitchen
a coke -(clay grinding pot with wooden club thingy)
rice cooker
hot water jar
thai condiments
4) a washing machine
5) porn dvds (with asian chicks)
6) an extra used motorbike
one thing that i have learned since i have been here, is that having sex makes those not having sex jealous and that being jealous makes you horney. this works on a number of different levels.not only about sex, but more generally. having fun, having a good time, and most importantly, making friends. for example, if i see some guy go with a girl that i think is attractive, my chances of going with a girl that night dramatically increase. i want to find one for me too because i've become a little jealous and covetous. this is human nature i guess and it is not limited to the beer bar customer. it happens to the bar girls too.
the thing with bar girls is that, even thought they say it is "up to you" who you want to go with, if you go with a bar girl once, they consider you "their" customer there after and every time you go back to that bar, you are inevitably stuck with that girl. if, after that, you go with a different girl, then the girl you originally went with will think the other girl stole her customer creating bad feelings between them and both girls (as well as all the girls in the bar) will label you a butterfly. this will break the endless cycle of always having to sit with the same woman but other girls will be reluctant to approach you in that bar. you must be aware of the precidence you set because you will be defined by that forever.
most girls work in the bars as a means to eventually find a farang boyfriend or husband so they can eventually quit working in the bar. if you get labeled a butterfly, then you are doomed to get the lecherous girls who for whatever reason (and there are many) don't want a farang boyfriend and only want the money; the kind of girls that you want to stay away from. they are not your target audience and not the kind of impression you want to make.
the target: what you want to do is find a a bar that houses the girls on the premises. usually upstairs or in a back room or something. the bars usually charge the girls 200-300 bath a month to stay. otherwise the girls will double or triple up to find a cheap ugly apartment for about 1500 a month. these girls are also good targets.
the idea is to bar fine two girls but not just any two girls. you don't want to bar fine two girls that have never really talked much before or don't know each other that well you want to find a girl and her best friend. which many times will also be her room mate. if there is a third girl then you may consider bar fining three girls. the idea is that you want to the girls very comfortable the first time they go with you. it is a little scary and uncomfortable the first time a girl goes with you so it is essential to give them the added security of having a friend or two go along.
next, it has got to be fun. very very fun. fun to the point of addictive or as close to that as possible. so how do you entertain a thai girl (or any thai for that matter)? there is no easy way to put this without being arrogant and condescending; you entertain thais the same way you entertain and western adolescent. you have to imagine you are throwing a party for ****s and teenagers. if any of you are parents then that will be all the easier for you. please, totally forget the idea of trying to introduce them to a little culture. you are waiting your time. might as well toss pearls to swine. you have to have the worst 'pop fluff' music that america has to offer and some 'pop shitty' thai music as well. you have to have a few flavors of bacardi wine coolers on hand and some tequila (many bar girls love tequila) and forget about the good movies. get some cartoons like doreamon or bugs bunny. it really seems like mental development in thailand stops at 12-15 years old. even for better educated thais not just isaac farmers.
x-boxes are addictive to so many people all over the world. that is especially true in thailand. if you have nothing else for props than an x-box (or equivalent), that's fine. that's all you really need. i have a couple girls call me to come and play the vids once or twice a week and i an always treated to the "bonus round" (usually one at a time of course while the other one plays the game). the problem then becomes getting them away from the game which they can sit and play for hours without a break. this is where the third girl comes in handy. the odd girl out has nothing else to do than play with your joy stick. if you only have two girls then you interrupt them with food and setting the table (or floor if you do it thai style).
remember that all the while you are serving them and being a good host and trying to make happy happy. fun fun. drunk drunk and don't forget the bad bad music. you clean up everything and wash all the dishes while they enjoy themselves.
remember what i said about precedence earlier? well here is the crux. if you have sex with any of these girls this first time, then you will have to pay them in the morning. what we are shooting for is free or inexpensive bar girl action in the future. so, on this first time. don't plan on any action. if you don't fuck them they won't expect the usually pay for play action in the morning. when you go to bed, all 3 or 4 of you, you are hoping that they are all dead drunk and want to sleep. most thai girls would be really shy to have sex with 1 or 2 of their friends in bed at the same time. the first time. so they have to be eased into it. they girls will probably want to sleep with their clothes on. you need to have some boxers and t-shirt for them to change into. boxers with easy the access holes.
i know it sounds like a drag to have a bunch of women in bed and not go for it but you must restrain yourself. remember the story about the young bull that says to the old bull "lets run down this hill and fuck one of those cows, and the old bull says, lets walk down and fuck them all" that's what we are going to do. we are going fuck all the girls in that bar or next to no money and we are going to keep them coming back.
back to bed, when you are all laying there under covers with aircon, you are going to slip your hands inside the boxers and start massaging their girl spots (don't ask them if it is ok. just do it) at the same time. if one or both refuse (unlikely) then back off. they might be too shy because their friend is there. don't expect or them to return the favor. most likely, neither will be able to cum and that is just fine but you must do it for a long long time if you can. if both of them let you do this for a while, then when you are finished you grab a hand from each girl and get a 2 girl hand job. cum and go to sleep.
in the morning, you get up first and go get thai food and bring it back to the room. if they hand around during the day before they have to go back to their bar (usually about 1-3 pm) then take them to the pool or the beach. something that is free or next to nothing. when it comes time for them to go and everyone starts thinking about money the girls are going to be thinking that the night before was more of a party than a fuck session and they won't expect money. but because generosity is so important in thailand you really should tip them at least 300 baht. this is very important. not more than 300 baht for precedince.
what happens when they go back to the bar is that they start telling all their friends how much fun they had last night at your "party. " you were a great host and that you (hopefully) made them cum and but didn't have sex with them.
then next time you go back to the bar, i guarantee everyone will know who you are, they will know your name and you will not be saddled with only one girl and you will not have the "butterfly" label attached to you. on top of that, you are going to stimulate the jealousy thing.
now what? well, you want to get start getting some girls to your room during the day before work so you don't have to pay the bar fine every time. so next time you go you invite the same girls to shopping at the market with you. they are going to teach you how to cook a simple thai dish and in return they can bring their laundry over and play your x-box. the critical thing here is that this time you are not going to tip them and you are not going to have sex. you are setting a precidence of not giving them money and at the same time, you are making your home very comfortable and fun with an element of utility.
at this point, you'll want to start getting to know a couple other girls at the same bar and start doing the same routine with them too because everyone does laundry once a week or so and that isn't enough to build your reputation as fun fun. and isn't frequent enough of stimulate the jealousy thing bar wide. remember, you want the rest of the girls in the bar, to be searching for the opportunity to come party in your room too but you don't want to take them all, you just work your target girls and maybe let in a new extra girl once in a while.
after a few weeks of this, 2-3 times a week, is when you invite a two or four of the girls (depending on the room size) to come stay in your extra room. they still work the bar of course but staying with you is a much better environment than living upstairs from the bar or is a cheaper and better proposition than living in their cheap ugly apartment. at this point you have a reputation of a good hearted, generous fun farang and hopefully you will all be good good friends. and nobody is jealous and sex has not become a commodity. you'll take care of the food and shampoo and soap and all that and won't charge them anything and they can even use the extra 2nd hand motorbike.
if you are lucky and they accept. then have a big party and bar fine a bunch of their friends the day they move in. let them all know they are welcome anytime as long but men are not allowed. now you have a selection of free pussy living with you with bonus friends from time to time. and the best part is, you are making friends.
peace.
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12-28-07 19:45 #1396
Walking Street Go-Go's
Here's a short run down of the Go-Go's on walking street. I started from the beginning. Next to the beer bars at the pier.
Silver Star. I went to the first place. On the right. It was surprisingly good. A Few butt naked dancers, an accessible hot-tub with action. An above average wait staff. More than a few hotties. I would recommend this place.
Other go-gos after that were yawners. Little action. Few girls. Lots of "buy me drink" etc. Etc.
Next stop worth considering:
Sectrets. On the left and sown the soi. You should see several hawkers on Walking street. Just let them point the way. Secrets has a good environment. Just a bar with lots of girls who dance and talk with you. Lots and Lots of hotties. No hot-tub and No butt naked dancers.
Next stop. Diamond alley. Lots of Go-gos here. I have been to a few. Not all of them. Anyway. Most are rall yawners. Two stand out.
Super Baby. Lots of hot girls. Some dancing naked. Great Selection. No hot-tub.
Supergirls (same management as Super Baby) This is one of the best Go-Gos in Pattaya. Bar none. There is an amazing selection of hotties. Good environment. Some real sexy cutties on the wait staff. A hot tub with 2-3 butt naked girls. Oi vay. I can't continue the report. I have to get down there right now.
Other good ones.---
Peppermint. Has a cage with but naked danced.- a few girls stacked like a brick house.
Club Boesche.- this may be the best Go-Go on the planet. Deserves it's own report.coming soon
Cheers
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12-28-07 19:35 #1395
We not worried....
Hi Almotu, Originally Posted by Almotu
Also Lemon Tree and me are here for a long time. Lemon Tree and I we know and we did our share.
I checked you last 100 posts. Not even one picture. Only questions about things that are already in the forum and many requests for pics of other contributors.
I know you are here a long time too. But with your history (last 100) you are not entitled to any comment.
Still. You are a nice guy. Cheers!
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12-28-07 17:38 #1394 Originally Posted by Freeler
I do not know but I would have thought it is like walking street is no vehicles from 1900hrs. I would not think that they would make Beach rd walking only between 0900-1400hrs. I think they should keep things the way they are.
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12-28-07 10:07 #1393That was very nice of you but I hope you explained to his guy afterwards how the game is played. Originally Posted by Opebo
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12-28-07 10:05 #1392Dont worry about this guy. One look at his post history and you'll know he's not a contributor. All he does is complain about other people's photos. Originally Posted by Lemon Tree
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