Discrimination against Foreigners in China

[The Cane]

Pretty disgusting and culturally insensitive: http://www.aol.com/article/2016/05/2...ight/21385490/.

[Ikksman]

{S N I P} So I decided to walk because it was 7-10 blocks from where I was. On the way got waylaid by some sweet talking SW who spoke enough English to convince me that ST for $60 wouldn't be a bad a idea. 15 min walk and I ended up at a reasonably clean small apartment and 30 min later I was happy enough to catch a cab (with her help) to my hotel. So all in all, it was well worth the experience.

You're a braver man than I am, Gunga Din!

Cheers.

[Jinozuri]

So it's been a while since I was in the forum but today wanted to give you a very brief update. I stayed in Beijing about a week and was treated very well by hotel staff and tour guides. On the mongering trail I started with the local hotel's massage service, asked for room-service to see if there'd be extra at the end which there sure was. I know I was being overcharged but went along with it paying $60 on top of the regular massage fee. Two days later I located a club (whose name I don't recall now), went there by cab and managed to see a few black guys there. I didn't like the scene so decided to try getting a cab to Maggies. Even though I had the instructions written out in Chinese, no cab driver wanted to take me there. So I decided to walk because it was 7-10 blocks from where I was. On the way got waylaid by some sweet talking SW who spoke enough English to convince me that ST for $60 wouldn't be a bad a idea. 15 min walk and I ended up at a reasonably clean small apartment and 30 min later I was happy enough to catch a cab (with her help) to my hotel. So all in all, it was well worth the experience.

Thanks for the warning. Been traveling around for a decade and a half so I am sure I can smell a bad deal from a mile away. But it's always great to get local knowledge in new destinations.

[Jinozuri]

Thanks for the warning. Been traveling around for a decade and a half so I am sure I can smell a bad deal from a mile away. But it's always great to get local knowledge in new destinations.

Man, it's going to suck. Try not to spend too much money, and be careful.

[Jinozuri]

Thanks everyone for all your comments. Preparing for my Beijing trip in a few hours. Looking forward to it.

[MikeKlein]

I don't want to get into a debate about who Chinese people hate least.

If we're talking about South Asians. Among many Chinese and especially among working girls, there is the perception that Indians are cheap. That is one of a handful of Chinese stereotypes about South Asians, which I'm not going to recount here. As South Asian men are great patrons of the working girls of all regions of Asia, many of us have seen maltreatment of South Asian clients (sometimes deserved; sometimes not). This conversation usually devolves into broad stereotypes and it's not incredibly helpful, I guess.

I just wanted to say this: for a black man in China, you have a lot of options. I think, depending on where you are (and I think China is a thousand times better than the rest of East Asia) , you can do very, very well for yourself.

Actually. It occurs to me that in China, especially here in Guangzhou and Shenzhen, maybe even in Shanghai or Beijing, it might be easier for a black dude with some amount of game to get it for free than to pay for it. Chinese girls have the same curiosity and urges as dudes that are attracted by the Other, and if your tastes run toward Russians, Europeans, or North American girls, you've got an even better shot at having a lot of success.

[Roger9]

But that is not true for people of color from the Indian subcontinent, I have seen on many occasion they being treated very well by Chinese people. Much better than white or black people ever would be.

It's easy to ignore it but these days there are a lot of discrimination against white people in China. I would say they are in the same situation like black people.

[MikeKlein]

In Guangzhou, for example, there's been an African presence in the city for more than a decade. Shanghai and Beijing, same deal to a lesser extent. There's definitely an element of discrimination against people of color, and you will meet civilian girls that aren't shy about saying,"I'd never sleep with a black guy," but. Yeah, there are plenty of women that don't share that sentiment, or even really dig men of color. And at the same time, lots of Chinese cities are increasingly multicultural, and if you want to sleep with- whoever, a girl from a country you've never heard of, you can hook it up. It's like anywhere: put in enough work, and you can find someone.

As far as paying for it goes, when I go to saunas in the south, I quite often see people from the Indian Subcontinent, Southeast Asia, Africa. Girls that have sex for money tend to be quite welcoming of people from different backgrounds, as long as they have money in their pocket.

[Clandestine782]

That is not correct. You just need to be able to understand some Chinese in order to make things happen.

[Jinozuri]

Thanks very much Fritobugger, this is very useful information. I have been on the Beijing board for the last month or so and managed to pick out a couple of names of places. I will check them out.

Thanks again.

You will have a harder time with the escort services since most of their girls don't speak English and come from the country side. You should look at pick up bars and saunas that are frequented by foreigners. I am a Shanghai expert not Beijing so I cannot give you specific locations. Search the Beijing board for pick up bars and saunas. The pick up bars will likely have Filipinas and Vietnamese in addition to Chinese take out.

Good luck.

[Fritobugger]

You will have a harder time with the escort services since most of their girls don't speak English and come from the country side. You should look at pick up bars and saunas that are frequented by foreigners. I am a Shanghai expert not Beijing so I cannot give you specific locations. Search the Beijing board for pick up bars and saunas. The pick up bars will likely have Filipinas and Vietnamese in addition to Chinese take out.

Good luck.

I will be visiting the country next month. As I black guy should I be concerned getting some in Beijing? Just been informed by an escort service via email that none of the providers are willing to be with a black dude.

[Jinozuri]

I will be visiting the country next month. As I black guy should I be concerned getting some in Beijing? Just been informed by an escort service via email that none of the providers are willing to be with a black dude.

[Clandestine782]

These are several sites. It is not for the benefit of the photos, but for the fact that this actually happens in the way that you know that it must- even if you can't believe that it does.

http://www.chinasmack.com/2009/pictu...hai-metro.html

http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/pictu...can-wives.html

I really should set up a business to try to introduce Chinese men to black women. That would solve a lot of problems.

[Clandestine782]

Thank you for that clarification!

1. He got what he deserved if what that letter says is true.

2. Even if not one word of what it says is true, going into a bar looking for a woman (in a country with a shortage of women) is AT YOUR OWN RISK and *forewarned is forearmed.

So, either way, it was his OWN dumb-assed fault.

[Loveasiangirls]

The embassy warning says ". By all accounts, the attack was unprovoked."

But other reports are not quite saying the same thing, including the bar's own release. Read here the response of the club management: http://www.thebeijinger.com/forum/20...l-today?page=1