Discrimination against Foreigners in China

[Night Cat]

Pretty much that sums it up in China and need I add, in the U.S. as well.

Of course, being a pretty boy anywhere helps alot too.

Chinese men outside Asia are not exactly top of the food chain either for freebies with other gals of different race. Welcome to the club. What comes around goes around.

A Chinese guy posted in the Brazil section, saying he was doing OK there because they thought he was Japanese, and they like Japanese for some reason (because they make all the consumer electronics products or something). So sometimes Asian guys outside of Asia find an edge (or maybe he's just "tai shuai").

Within China, I'd agree that rich Chinese (including, maybe even especially, overseas Chinese) are the top of the food chain. White guys seem to benefit from some "sexual mystique," to some extent like black guys in the U.S. Aside from that, the main thing is status (money, job, connections, etc.). Looks count for something, but I just saw a really dorky white guy walking out of a restaurant with a hot looking Chinese chick, so who knows.

As for the U.S., I found that having a good work situation didn't translate into being popular with the girls. That connection seems to be stronger in China.

[Night Cat]

On P4P, I agree with Ace, the bigger the city, the worse it gets, quality vs. price. Beijing is a case in point. Smaller cities vary, and it takes time to find the places that suit you.

Regarding non-pro, I might agree with Exile's comment about "connections," assuming he means that it's difficult if you just show up in a new city as a random stranger. I think the availability of freebies is directly proportional to one's perceived status and stability (as judged from your job, your apartment, your connections, etc.). Lately, as a lone drifter, I scarcely find freebies. Earlier, as a teacher in a well-known university, I did OK. An expat in a foreign company will do even better. Also -- casual affairs may be difficult unless you're willing to try older gals (or so I've found).

There are so many factors. Race, age, and other physical attributes could matter, depending on the girl. I've been turned down for P4P just because I'm a foreigner, but in other cases it has worked in my favor.

I don't know if the above helps. I, too, would like it if I could find freebies whenever I want, like some guys on this forum, and I don't know their situation (status, social connections, or what age/looks of gals they're getting), so I just thought I'd add another perspective based on my own "mixed" results. Good luck, and YMMV.

[BossLove72]

In China there seems of hierarchy of potential partners. Black guys do not seem to be at the top of the pile.

The only girls available in China seem to be:

1) Young students.

2) Shy, introverted or otherwise insecure women, e.g., 35 year old virgin syndrome.

Any women that are fuckable seem to be already taken by white english teachers, Chinese men or in some cases Black Africans.

I am a fat Black American man. Although I do agree with you largely on most of what you say. If you see African men getting laid, then you CAN. What I think it is honestly is that you have too high of a standard of what you want. You want to have the beautiful Chinese girls. That my friend takes time and sometimes a lot of cash. These girls want the white face. We are not well liked here in China, where women will wear "Welder's Mask" Super Long sleeved gloves, a cape with a big floppy hat in 35 Celsius degree weather to avoid getting a little brown. White is it here. You must accept that. So we must make due with the not so pretty ones, but honestly I can tell you after chasing one very pretty Chinese girl, they are not always worth it. Just be happy and cheer up. Girls like the friendly smiling guys, and if you just want to get laid, go with the stereotypes, sing to them. My singing has gotten me more pussy here.

Don't compare yourself to the other teachers. Just be yourself. Trust me on this. If you want to chat more, PM me.

[Ace of Spades]

I am a 27 year old Black Canadian.

My personality maybe is to blame.

I have been everywhere in China, the story is the same, hard to get laid outside of P4P. It could be my personality or it could be my choice of location. It might easier to get laid in a small town or remote province where there are fewer waiguo ren competitors.

I have had much better luck in the Philippines. Personality does not seem to matter one bit, but in China, personality seems to mean a lot. Freebies are possible there, but based on the expectation of financial support.

A second issue is that in China there seems of hierarchy of potential partners. Black guys do not seem to be at the top of the pile.

The only girls available in China seem to be:

1) Young students
2) Shy, introverted or otherwise insecure women, e.g., 35 year old virgin syndrome.

Any women that are fuckable seem to be already taken by white english teachers, Chinese men or in some cases Black Africans.

[Exile]

I hate to complain about the cheap pussy in China, but it seems so hard to get laid consistently these days near any major city.

I hate to disagree but China is perhaps the easiest country in the world, especially for non-working girls. Perhaps it is because you live in a small town and am coming into the big cities without establishing any connections first?

[Fast Eddie 48]

I have been coming to China for a long time (7 years now) for business.

I live in a small city near Guangzhou.

I hate to complain about the cheap pussy in China, but it seems so hard to get laid consistently these days near any major city. Hookers want too much money for lousy service and non-working girls are very particular about the guys they screw. Blame it on China getting rich and also too much competition from other foreigners and also Chinese men with few women available to be had for all.

Finding a wife is very similar, very difficult, a passport is not enough to woo one. I'd never thought I would say it, money is not enough to get laid in major cities in China.

China has some real pussy supply problems.

ACE,

China have 1.5 billion people and 60 % are women.

You have been here for over 7 yrears and you still have problem scoring?

If you are a newbie new in China I can understand.

I think the problem is on you my friend .

Fast eddie 48

[Old Mean Dog]

Goofy guys like me can get laid and are courted by local gals.
Bill

I'll second this, if Bill Lee can get laid, it should be a piece of cake for the rest of us.

Maybe you got a bad rep there or are to aggressive? Maybe 1 out of every 10 will not want my business because I'm a white guy, but normally it's never a problem, especially with hookers. Freebies are also in abundance, you might have to court them a few times, but after a few dates, it should not be a problem getting in their pants.

-CPE

[Bill Lee]

I'm not here to insult you.

Goofy guys like me can get laid and are courted by local gals.

So what's your background? If you want to openly discuss this.

Bill

I have been coming to China for a long time (7 years now) for business.
I live in a small city near Guangzhou.

I hate to complain about the cheap pussy in China, but it seems so hard to get laid consistently these days near any major city. Hookers want too much money for lousy service and non-working girls are very particular about the guys they screw. Blame it on China getting rich and also too much competition from other foreigners and also Chinese men with few women available to be had for all.

Finding a wife is very similar, very difficult, a passport is not enough to woo one. I'd never thought I would say it, money is not enough to get laid in major cities in China.

China has some real pussy supply problems.

[Ace of Spades]

I have been coming to China for a long time (7 years now) for business.
I live in a small city near Guangzhou.

I hate to complain about the cheap pussy in China, but it seems so hard to get laid consistently these days near any major city. Hookers want too much money for lousy service and non-working girls are very particular about the guys they screw. Blame it on China getting rich and also too much competition from other foreigners and also Chinese men with few women available to be had for all.

Finding a wife is very similar, very difficult, a passport is not enough to woo one. I'd never thought I would say it, money is not enough to get laid in major cities in China.

China has some real pussy supply problems.