Dating Russian Women

[Doctor_Skank]

one of the keys of closing the deal with a girl (at least low mileage ones) is getting her back to your place. doing so without raising suspicions - and thus resistance - is an artform. here's what i've gleaned from pros such as doc skank and roger mellie:

1) "i have a present for you back at my place."
it's always good to have a bottle of two of name-brand eau de toilette in reserve. i've also used knock-off (but decent quality) "designer" ladies watches that i bought in thailand to good effect.

2) "i was cooking this afternoon and don't remember if i turned off the burner or not."
of course you really have to have been cooking to make this work. soup is probably the most believable, as russians eat (and thus cook) soup regularly.

3) "i need some milk/youghurt/bread for the morning, let me buy some and drop it off so i won't have to do it after our date."
requires some planning, as your route needs to logically take you from being with her, to the store, to your place and then plausibly somewhere afterwards.

4) "if you really like that type of photography/architecture/music [that we've been discussing], i have a lot on my computer, if you'd like to see/hear them."
she'll know what's going on here, but at least it's plausible enough for her to save face.

i'd be curious to any others which people have used successfully (or unsuccessfully for that matter!)

actually the only thing that matters is getting her back to your place, since you can't fuck her on the street... although actually i did fuck a girl in an alley near chisty prudi a couple years back and i fucked a girl in the movie theatre by the renaissance hotel as well.

getting her to come up is the ultimate challenge, since girls do have the built-in cultural training that going to a guy's apartment usually means agreeing to sex, or can be dangerous. i don't blame the girls for their caution, as [CodeWord123] often goes unpunished in russia. sadly, i personally know several girls who were raped by russian guys. the police verdict: you were alone with him (or them) in their apartment and had been drinking: your fault. case closed.

nonetheless, things are changing somewhat with modern times. going to a guy's apartment is (regrettably for us i suppose) no longer automatic sex, at least during the daytime or evening. at night the hit rate approaches 100% however.

the above-mentioned ploys are still pretty up-to-date, although i must admit that the present ploy doesn't always work. i think it is important to judge the girl you are talking to. every girl loves presents, but some girls aren't willing to trade sex on a first date for a box of chocolates. the ploy is obviously see-through. nonetheless, it doesn't hurt to try if it seems that she isn't going to come up for tea without some alterior motivation. where the present ploy can work very well is if you already have the girl in the room and she seems keen to leave... deploying the secret weapon will often change her mind. underwear must be tried on and modeled. perfume must be tested and "celebrated".

just as effective, or maybe even more so, is the previously mentioned inviting her in to look at pictures on the pc. either on your laptop or elsewhere, like flickr, looking at pictures is a good opportunity to talk about a lot of subjects, get some bodily contact and/or cuddle time and close the deal. it shows her sides of your personality and well, chicks dig that.

ask a girlfriend what she's likes about you most or the best time she ever had with you. the answers will surprise... it's often pretty plain stuff and not the spectacular meal or your cool clothes.

here's another one that i've been using recently. tell her you want to show her some cool stuff on youtube. amazingly it works. show her some funny videos, or some cool music.. let her show you some russian stuff.. drink some whisky and presto: panties off.

the shopping ploy is a cool one, but admittedly roger mellie's idea and not mine. smooth bastard.

another one i use is the very simple "i want to talk to you alone, i have some private things to say to you." also sometimes works if you deliver the message in a casual non-threatening way.

a dodgy last chance gambit for pulling girls from clubs, and i think also previously mentioned by another isg monger, is telling them they can spend the night and don't have to take a taxi all the way home. especially on cold winter nights if delivered again in the right way, like expressing concern for their safety, it surprisingly sometimes works. last chance gambit, nothing to lose. usually you'll have to mention that you can sleep on the couch, but of course both parties know that isn't going to happen. this can also be very effective with girls that have a tag-along bodyguard. bring her with... she'll either end up in bed with you and your new friend or she'll be sleeping on the couch while you get face and pussy time.

[Jake993]

I'd be curious to any others which people have used successfully (or unsuccessfully for that matter!)

The lure of "presents" is always a good draw. I have often offered to show the young damsel some photographs of my travels which are on my computer. Stories of exotic women from far off lands can sometimes pique the curiosity.

On one occasion, before a date, I suggested that she pack an over night bag so that she didn't have to risk driving home (if she has a car) back to the suburbs after a few bottles of wine with dinner. Of course, I tell her that I will sleep on the sofa if she has any concerns over my sexual advances.

[LifeSavour]

. One of the keys of closing the deal with a girl (at least low mileage ones) is getting her back to your place. Doing so without raising suspicions.

Being 50 has it drawbacks. But in Kyiv I do fairly well with the 23 to 25 age group (just takes so damn long).

From time to time I rather enjoy the 34 to 44 age group for a 'quick one'!

I also love the 'hunt'. Its like Christmas for a kid. Unwrapping/opening the present the 1st time is most exciting.

I use love. Mail. Ru, look for those that do not speak english and we chat in my limited / translated Russian. I flirt! I am bold! I tell them what I like and what I want to do with them, up until the point they accuse me of only wanting 'virtual sex'! Then I stop.

Now its time to meet. I tell them they will like me in person, so we will meet in cafe near my home and after our 5 minutes of conversing we will go to use home computer to continue our date.

Sitting next to each other sharing a keyboard allows for multiple ways to touch, flirt, laugh.

Sooner OR later I type I want her kisses.

The rest is obvious!

I have found that Sundays are the best. I have met a woman for the 1st time like at 9am, and by 5pm we are in bed! Once it did not even include using the computer, just straight from the cafe to undressing.

Also, strike as soon as you can. I have many conversations that were only for a day and she disappeared. Reasons here are obvious too. Get that mobile number!

LS 'the fox' Guy

[Hecker]

As a short time traveller I don't have anything in my hotel room apart from my things. I also stay in hotel and not in apartment, so no possibility to cook and moreover I cannot spend time cooking.
So my question is always: Chotsies priexat v gotel? Or chotsies byt semnoj v gotel? (do you want to come to hotel? Or do you want to stay with me in hotel? ).
The word hotel usually stirs up red alarm in girls' minds. So maybe it is better to avoid this word ''hotel'' and say sth like ''do you want to come with me to my room? ''(chotsies priexat semnoj v komniate).

By the time the girl decides to enter the hotel door, she knows what follows thereafter. So any acceptance of the offer means only one thing.

I don't justify why she should come to me at the hotel room. I throw it like that and she has to choose.
When she decides yes, I take a taxi and go to hotel as quickly as possible before she changes her decision (which can be changed by one million factors, like a harsh, bad smelling taxi driver, a bad quality taxi, a stranger coming and asking for something, rotten walls inside hotel, bad behaviour of receptionist,comments all these details play important role and you have to be ready to face every possible distraction. Sometimes you cannot even imagine what will happen. The way you handle the unexpected determines the proportion of your success.)

[Pizdyets]

Since Jackson was so kind as to create this thread, I figured it deserves some posts, so I'll kick it off.

One of the keys of closing the deal with a girl (at least low mileage ones) is getting her back to your place. Doing so without raising suspicions - and thus resistance - is an artform. Here's what I've gleaned from pros such as Doc Skank and Roger Mellie:

1) "I have a present for you back at my place."
It's always good to have a bottle of two of name-brand eau de toilette in reserve. I've also used knock-off (but decent quality) "designer" ladies watches that I bought in Thailand to good effect.

2) "I was cooking this afternoon and don't remember if I turned off the burner or not."
Of course you really have to have been cooking to make this work. Soup is probably the most believable, as Russians eat (and thus cook) soup regularly.

3) "I need some milk/youghurt/bread for the morning, let me buy some and drop it off so I won't have to do it after our date."
Requires some planning, as your route needs to logically take you from being with her, to the store, to your place and then plausibly somewhere afterwards.

4) "If you really like that type of photography/architecture/music [that we've been discussing], I have a lot on my computer, if you'd like to see/hear them."
She'll know what's going on here, but at least it's plausible enough for her to save face.

I'd be curious to any others which people have used successfully (or unsuccessfully for that matter!)

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