Dating Russian Women

[Pizdyets]

Me too. And vkontakte. And odnoklassniki.

I simply refused to join any from the start (at least under my real identity). Sure, I get plenty of grief from my friends for eschewing the social networking movement and have even been accused of being a luddite. But then again, they always have my email address, my skype/icq/gtalk ids, and mobile number if they want to get in touch with me.

Still, it makes me laugh when I see a married Russian business colleague (using his real name) who has 50 some-odd friends on odnoklassniki, and they're all slutty looking single girls aged from 18 to 29. Proof that there's still a wide gap between what's acceptable in Russia and what's acceptable in the US.

[Bez Bezarra]

This is one rare occasion where I totally agree with Bez .

I am thinking VERY seriously of deleting my Face entirely.

Ebi tvoyu boga dushu mat!

Ne pizdi, paskuda yobaniy.

Ok, well you're only allowed to agree with me because its your birthday, now poshol na huy.

[Jake993]

поздравляю вас, с днем рождения! (Happy Birthday)

Большое спасибо

[Stravinsky]

Just yesterday (it was my birthday)

поздравляю вас, с днем рождения! (Happy Birthday)

[Doctor_Skank]

PS - I am thinking VERY seriously of deleting my Facebook account entirely.

Me too. And vkontakte. And odnoklassniki.

[Jake993]

Your problem is that you're worried. Worrying is the wrong strategy.

Bob Malaga - This is one of those rare occasions where I totally agree with Bez . I believe you may be over thinking this. Have fun, treat her right, and don't lie to her beyond what's REASONABLE. This is not a working girl so chances are that she's not exactly "street tough".

Having said that, take heed in the old saying about not getting your "meat" where you get your "bread". I have never been a big follower of that rule myself, but I will <grudgingly> admit that there is a certain amount of merit. But since you have one degree of separation, hell man, go for it. But be cautious in your communication with her as it may have unintended consequences. Let me explain why I say this. Just yesterday (it was my birthday) I started receiving a bunch of emails saying that people had written on my Facebook wall wishing me a Happy Birthday. I have never really embraced the whole Facebook thing but played along and have even connected to some old school friends that I have not communicated with for over 30 years. All harmless fun.

LAST night, however, I got an email from Facebook with a Friend Request. But this was a girlfriend from Moscow who wanted to become a Facebook friend. Under normal circumstances, I would have approved and said “yeah, sure no problem” and let her become a Facebook friend except this time coming on the heels of having so many people I have known for many, many years both personally AND professionally posting all these happy greetings on my Facebook Wall the thought of making a girlfriend / mistress / Lubovitsa from Moscow a Facebook Friend made my blood run cold. I realized that it was possible for her to post a bunch of shit on my wall that could potentially be very, very awkward and potentially VERY difficult to explain to certain people. What the hell was I to do? Approve her? Deny her? Ignore her? Luckily I dug deep into the privacy controls of Facebook and it appears that even if I allow my little Moscvitchka to become my Facebook Friend, that I can control what she can see and certainly stop her from posting on my wall in the event that she discovers the 5 other Moscow girls I am banging and decides to “slag” me in public.

Here’s my point – in this age of cyber communication and instant information, those of us who practice this hobby need to be ever more mindful of the potential risks out there for collateral damage to our reputations, our livelihoods, and our loved ones. Before going too far down the road with who sounds to be a lovely Ukrainian devushka (sorry, diwchinka), keep in mind the collateral damage that a gilted lover might cause in your professional circles should the magic fade under less than favorable circumstances.

PS - I am thinking VERY seriously of deleting my Facebook account entirely.

[Eros74]

Blaked,

speaking about sharm and hurgada, which are the months when usually russians and ukranians go there ?

I guess maybe in winter times to escape the cold weather out there, but maybe they go even in summer ? Or spring and autumn when the prices are cheaper ?

[Bez Bezarra]

Your problem is that you're worried. Worrying is the wrong strategy.

Why worry? Just have fun with her, treat her well. Worrying about it takes all the fun out of it. The only thing you should worry about, is fucking her so hard that you nearly kill her. You need to fuck her like the world will end tomorrow, fuck her until she is screaming, then fuck her again even harder. That will get her mind off anything serious.

She knows you're not staying. She knows you're only coming for business. She's not an idiot. You tell her you'll be coming back next month to see her again, and she'll be happy about that. And then later, you tell her that you can't come back because your company needs you to go to, well, you make up some place.

She's not gonna break it off, just because of that. And whenever you go back, if she still likes you, you see her again.

This time, when you first go to fuck her, she's not gonna try to get all serious with you in just a few days, despite what she wrote. Don't even worry about that. You're just starting the relationship, let it run its course, for where ever it will go in the short time of your business trip. If you don't bring up anything serious, except for how much you like her, then if she brings it up, you can just tell her that you want to spend MORE time with her before you make any serious decisions. That way, she'll know you don't only want a 2 day affair.

You won't get any surprises if you use a condom.

[Trackster42]

Bob,

It is going to be cheaper to do P2P instead of this "freebie." Remember you are paying them to leave. Time to think with your head that's above your waist. IMHO you should leave this one alone, especially given the potential entanglement with your business partner.

T42

Hi guys,

I have visited Ukraine for the first time 2 years ago for business and by that time, the first option I took to get some fun quickly as a newcomer, was to use the services of GIA. It did not leave unforgettable memories, not even the kind to make me report about them here, after all what was written in that topic.

I'm planning to go back to Ukraine in 3 weeks to visit again one of our suppliers we have been working with the last 2 years.

During the last 3 months, I have been in touch with a very nice looking 22 year old girl (I'm 35) who works as a commercial assistant in my partner's company in Dnepropetrovsk. We use very often msn to communicate in English. Day after day, discussions switched to a kind of seduction game and then we started openly talking about a date on my next visit.

So far so good, and the chance to get laid seems quite Okey. I told her I wanted her to come with me to Kiev for a week-end and she agreed.

But what bothers me now is that she confessed being in search for a serious relationship that would lead to marriage, and also complained that Ukrainian guys were only interested in one or two dates She's really hot and we have a real good mental connection. She's speaks English and German, is willing to learn French.

It appears obvious that she sees me as a potential « knight from Paris » (I'm French) even after telling her I had a one year old baby and an ex-wife. But my target is to have her as a regular girlfriend (among others), have some fun when I'm there, but not let the relationship develop further. That's why I request the help of you, Russia and Ukraine Master Jedi's of mongering (hehe that's for the sword techniques).

A special tribute to Doctor Skank, whose posts are a real delight to read.

My questions are the following:

1. Non lethal exit strategies with a Russian/Ukrainian freebie: is there any other option than just « fire and forget »? She's in the loop of my business there and I don't want to treat her like shit.

2. Not knowing how the girls in Ukraine manage birth control methods, I'm thinking of using Condoms with Spermicide to avoid any « bad » surprises later But I don't want to make it obvious to her in bed. Any advice on that issue based on previous experiences?

Thanks in Advance,

Bob

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[Bob Malaga]

Hi guys,

I have visited Ukraine for the first time 2 years ago for business and by that time, the first option I took to get some fun quickly as a newcomer, was to use the services of GIA. It did not leave unforgettable memories, not even the kind to make me report about them here, after all what was written in that topic.

I'm planning to go back to Ukraine in 3 weeks to visit again one of our suppliers we have been working with the last 2 years.

During the last 3 months, I have been in touch with a very nice looking 22 year old girl (I'm 35) who works as a commercial assistant in my partner's company in Dnepropetrovsk. We use very often msn to communicate in English. Day after day, discussions switched to a kind of seduction game and then we started openly talking about a date on my next visit.

So far so good, and the chance to get laid seems quite Okey. I told her I wanted her to come with me to Kiev for a week-end and she agreed.

But what bothers me now is that she confessed being in search for a serious relationship that would lead to marriage, and also complained that Ukrainian guys were only interested in one or two dates She's really hot and we have a real good mental connection. She's speaks English and German, is willing to learn French.

It appears obvious that she sees me as a potential « knight from Paris » (I'm French) even after telling her I had a one year old baby and an ex-wife. But my target is to have her as a regular girlfriend (among others), have some fun when I'm there, but not let the relationship develop further. That's why I request the help of you, Russia and Ukraine Master Jedi's of mongering (hehe that's for the sword techniques).

A special tribute to Doctor Skank, whose posts are a real delight to read.

My questions are the following:

1. Non lethal exit strategies with a Russian/Ukrainian freebie: is there any other option than just « fire and forget »? She's in the loop of my business there and I don't want to treat her like shit.

2. Not knowing how the girls in Ukraine manage birth control methods, I'm thinking of using Condoms with Spermicide to avoid any « bad » surprises later But I don't want to make it obvious to her in bed. Any advice on that issue based on previous experiences?

Thanks in Advance,

Bob

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[DJ FourMoney]

If you want to meet Russian and Ukrainian girls on vacation, the best places to go are Hurghada and Sharm el-Shekh in Egypt, and Antalya/Belek on Turkey's southern coast. They're phenomenally cheap. Neva Travel, Coral Travel, and Natalie Tours are recognized package vacation operators in Moscow/SPB. When Russians go to the Caribbean, they usually hit Cuba and sometimes the Dominican Republic. They are much more likely to go to Thailand or Goa.

That's a great point!

I don't know if the rest of you notice this, but it seems quite a few Russians end up in The Middle East for school, work or internships. Moscow has long done business with countries like Iran for an extended length of time so they have no Visa requirements. Like Turkey its one of few places both Western European/American/Canadian men can go and meet Russian women on neutral ground.

I am still kicking myself for not meeting with a Siberian cutie in Turkey after meeting with Mr. Disappointment, who knows where that could have gone.

[Blaked]

If you want to meet Russian and Ukrainian girls on vacation, the best places to go are Hurghada and Sharm el-Shekh in Egypt, and Antalya/Belek on Turkey's southern coast. They're phenomenally cheap. Neva Travel, Coral Travel, and Natalie Tours are recognized package vacation operators in Moscow/SPB. When Russians go to the Caribbean, they usually hit Cuba and sometimes the Dominican Republic. They are much more likely to go to Thailand or Goa.

[Passepartout]

Guys,

I have already reported it here, but would like to repeat the message for the ones who have missed it.

The best club in town nowadays in Moscow, where you will be able to enter, with full of absolute stunning girls, without a single girl rated 5 or less, is the UP AND DOWN, located near Proletarskaya metro station.

The club is big, with amazing spectacle and gogo danseuses, and a majority of beautiful girls.
The rate of scoring with my friends is pretty high btw. Yesterday, a friend of mine in 5 minutes was able to convince a small brunette to go to toilets together... just crazy.

in case you do not score, hey don't worry! At the main bar located near the dance floor you will be able to spot 3 or 4 working girls. Never asked for the prices, so can't report.

But even if you don't score there, you will find yourselves sharing a drink with a top model or two, like if it would be a normal thing all of us is doing everyday...crazy, crazy, crazy.

[Gentleman Travel]

Thanks GT and Skank.
Actually, the main risk is not so much financial - if she doesn't show, you're down 1 plane ticket*, plus you'll probably be in a place full of other hotties -

*Hopefully not transatlantic. I understand your situation is different, GT

No, the situations I am looking at are importing FSU girls into what is otherwise a sex prison (Geneva) or unknown/complex terrain. So if she doesn't show, or I don't get a firm deal made in time, then I am probably stuck spending my time alone. Of course this only applies on business trips - otherwise why not vacation somewhere where there is a local fall-back plan?

[Ash1001]

Thanks GT and Skank.

Actually, the main risk is not so much financial - if she doesn't show, you're down 1 plane ticket*, plus you'll probably be in a place full of other hotties - as mental: if you're stuck with a dud for a full week and are responsible for her, well, as Dr S says, that's a tricky one to get out of.

The only reason I ask is because I was thinking of a way of avoiding the freezing cold of St Petersburg! At this stage I haven't yet asked the dyev in question whether she actually wants to meet.. but I'm kind of hoping a winter sun offer might get her juices flowing It's worth a try at any rate.

*Hopefully not transatlantic. I understand your situation is different, GT