Dating Russian Women

[YummyPL]

Here's one for anyone who might think they have anything to add.

I live in Moscow now so most of my "activity" is dating non-pro girls and not so much mongering, although on occasion I will partake in the pleasures of a banya girl or massagista at a bachelor party. But I digress.

I have been dating a Russian woman for several months now. She's in her late 30's but she's in fabulous shape having been a figure skater in her youth. During our first sexual encounter I was not surprised to find that she was completely clean shaven in her pubic regions. However, since that time, she has grown her pubic hair albeit in a very nicely trimmed "pelt" about 3 cm wide and 6 cm long up her tight little belly. Closer to the business end and the anus itself, everything is clean as a whistle to be sure, but I thought it was interesting that she found it necessary to grow a little hair back after shaving herself. She always keeps it perfectly trimmed so I am not complaining one bit. I am just curious more than anything about her choice of grooming habits.

Opinions? Explanations?

Jake

I think it is a trend throughout Europe. You see it more and more in porn and I have seen it much more often among pros and non-pros alike. Just more fashionable I think. I personally prefer a little landing strip but I am hoping the trend does not move too far toward the hairy side of things. No 70s Bush!

[Jake993]

Here's one for anyone who might think they have anything to add.

I live in Moscow now so most of my "activity" is dating non-pro girls and not so much mongering, although on occasion I will partake in the pleasures of a banya girl or massagista at a bachelor party. But I digress.

I have been dating a Russian woman for several months now. She's in her late 30's but she's in fabulous shape having been a figure skater in her youth. During our first sexual encounter I was not surprised to find that she was completely clean shaven in her pubic regions. However, since that time, she has grown her pubic hair albeit in a very nicely trimmed "pelt" about 3 cm wide and 6 cm long up her tight little belly. Closer to the business end and the anus itself, everything is clean as a whistle to be sure, but I thought it was interesting that she found it necessary to grow a little hair back after shaving herself. She always keeps it perfectly trimmed so I am not complaining one bit. I am just curious more than anything about her choice of grooming habits.

Opinions? Explanations?

Jake

[Prosal]

Perhaps you are correct Prosal.

I have read many of your posts and have tried to learn from what you have said. On my profile, instead of using pictures of me in the casual clothes I am seen wearing on facebook, I am very well dressed in a variety of quality suits. I am a business man and my business plan is well laid out so I am consistent and thorough. I track my conversations on a spreadsheet. Yes, it is anal but I think it is smart when I am trying to juggle conversations with 20 girls in a language with which I have limited knowledge. Because I will be in Kiev often in 2013, my plan is more to build a network of girls to go out with rather than simply to fuck. I can always fuck prostitutes if I need to do that. My long term goal is for them to respect me enough that they are introducing me to their friends.

I am certainly new to the FSU game but I am taking it seriously. I have gone to Germany 10-12 times a year over the past 4 years and I know only a few words of German because I don't care. The Romainian girls in the FKKs will fuck me even if we don't talk at all. I am planning to go to Kiev often and I have made a significant effort to learn Russian and have some reasonable conversational skills already. I am 41, in good shape, decent looking, dress well (for an American) , am well traveled, have money to spend, and can speak some Russian. However, despite my good qualities, I am getting positive feedback from very attractive 18-20 year olds on VK (not Mamba) that I never would get back home. I may not have your French accent, but I should be able to do OK. If you think I am doing this wrong, please enlighten me. I seriously do respect your opinion and believe most, if not all, that have posted as it has been consistent and reasonable.

Oh, and I have 6 guy friends (colleagues from my real work) and 4 female friends (all requested by them). They may not be dumb, but neither am I.

I "loled" and "rolleyed" just because I thought that you had on your VK friend list all the girls who wrote you back (40% of about 100 girls you sent messages to) , which is suicidal. If it's not the case, my bad. Personally I don't use VK because you can only hide 10 contacts, and having too many girls on your friend list definitively categorize you as a sex-hungry foreigner. Russian girls are indulgent, emotionally generous, passionate, but they are NOT naive. And Ukrainian girls even less so, as Ukraine is on the sex-tourism map since many years now and a foreigner is in Ukraine rather a subject of (legitimate) distrust than of attraction or of interest (I mean non-materialistic "genuine" interest). Displaying many girls on your friend list is an avowal of culpability.

Anyway your approach of "relationship building" is IMO right, and your goal, to create yourself a little stable of 5-6 girls with who you mesh well and who are worth a commitment is a good strategy. I don't really understand the guys who build relationship on internet with a girl just to have one or two dates and sex and bye bye. This is bound to lead to huge disappointment for the girls, which is unfair. My opinion is that many guys lack of empathy and compassion by seing things solely from a "what can I get from her" perpective. Of course, I am talking about "genuine", honest and emotionally generous girls, not about sneaky and conniving golddiggers, sponsorettes or serial daters, which are girls that you can manipulate very easily with cash and confidence, which is fair since they are essentially there to manipulate you too.

[Guntherus]

Yeah, this also sounds sensible and may call for some planning, but we name no special venues here. There is a lot of info about clubs in every city, and then I usually get info from taxi drivers easily. Thanks, I am sure that with proper preparation this will be fun with my girls.

My logical advice to increase the probabilities of having a good time: Choose a beautiful, elegant club, with good music, and beautiful girls. Of course avoid the shady, small, dirty or / and 'cheap'. And check the place before going with her.

[Jack2004]

Key sentence here: "there are many exceptions". Your experience is encouraging, but our french comrade mentions, some girls will not find this a good idea. So personality and experience has to be considered, and maybe outright asking my girls is adviceable in some cases, even if this takes away the surprise-effect. I guess a girl may be OK with first-time-visit to a strpclub if she feels safe that they have a say about what happens once she is inside. Then she might get some fancy idea herself. At least enjoy the show. I sure would. Thanks for responding boys.

My logical advice to increase the probabilities of having a good time: Choose a beautiful, elegant club, with good music, and beautiful girls. Of course avoid the shady, small, dirty or / and 'cheap'. And check the place before going with her.

[Guntherus]

In my experience visiting a strip-bar with a FSU woman is not a taboo, is almost "normal", generally speaking. They are quite used to it, and sometimes can be rewarding. Some friends have had very interesting experiences, mine have benn only "spicy". Lesbian sex there is neither a taboo. Remember most women want to enjoy life, and love surprises. And if your life is a difficult one, you'll be hungrier for nice and new experiences. Of course these are general rules, and for sure there are many exceptions.

Key sentence here: "there are many exceptions". Your experience is encouraging, but our french comrade mentions, some girls will not find this a good idea. So personality and experience has to be considered, and maybe outright asking my girls is adviceable in some cases, even if this takes away the surprise-effect. I guess a girl may be OK with first-time-visit to a strpclub if she feels safe that they have a say about what happens once she is inside. Then she might get some fancy idea herself. At least enjoy the show. I sure would. Thanks for responding boys.

[Tomux 22]

Yeah that's a tough one to argue. I had the same situation a while back and one night we ran out of condoms. She was pretty horny and decided she would risk it. She never went back to the the "raincoat". Then, she broke it off with me and got engaged. Six months later the engagement was off and she came crawling back. However, she wanted me to cover up again. I am a patient man and expect it will be only a matter of time until we go "au natural" again. I also hide all but two condoms when she comes over now. Hee hee.

BTW. I had a vasectomy years ago so the pregnancy card is off the table. This is all about safe sex.

I guess I will need to be patient and see what will happen in the future.)

[Tomux 22]

DON'T DO IT! Just had a friend go bankrupt during his divorce from his "loving" Russian wife.

I know Russian women mentality to good to marry one my self. Sure they can be good wife's to a Russian guy. And sure there is exceptions where things can work out with diev and guy from west.

[Prosal]

She is one of the girls I enjoy spending me free time with and we have great sex. But the problem is she only will have covered sex. And yes I have made a test and I always play safe. What she is telling me."but better to use them till you know that you and me will stay together for a long time and you will not betray me with another people"

I am out of options. Any suggestions on my move here?

I only can speak from my own experience, but IMO condoms and slavic girls don't mix well. Those girls are too passionate, too emotional, too spontaneous, and they tend to follow their instinct without thinking twice (of course I am talking about girls who are into you, not prostitutes or sponsorettes). This is not really compatible with plastic. As is alcohol, and we all know that they drink like Cossaks.

I know there is nothing to be proud about, but I've never ever wrap it up in this part of the world. I mean never ever. I'm not joking. And as far as I can remember, the only two Russian girls who asked me to do so were russians living in Paris since a long time ie who started thinking with a western state of mind.

[Jake993]

She is one of the girls I enjoy spending me free time with and we have great sex. But the problem is she only will have covered sex. And yes I have made a test and I always play safe. What she is telling me."but better to use them till you know that you and me will stay together for a long time and you will not betray me with another people"

I am out of options. Any suggestions on my move here?

Yeah that's a tough one to argue. I had the same situation a while back and one night we ran out of condoms. She was pretty horny and decided she would risk it. She never went back to the the "raincoat". Then, she broke it off with me and got engaged. Six months later the engagement was off and she came crawling back. However, she wanted me to cover up again. I am a patient man and expect it will be only a matter of time until we go "au natural" again. I also hide all but two condoms when she comes over now. Hee hee

BTW - I had a vasectomy years ago so the pregnancy card is off the table. This is all about safe sex.

[PeterTheGreat]

DON'T DO IT! Just had a friend go bankrupt during his divorce from his "loving" Russian wife.

[Tomux 22]

She is one of the girls I enjoy spending me free time with and we have great sex. But the problem is she only will have covered sex. And yes I have made a test and I always play safe. What she is telling me."but better to use them till you know that you and me will stay together for a long time and you will not betray me with another people"

I am out of options. Any suggestions on my move here?

[Sharalumi]

Agreed, compensated says a lot, but in the long run, it may get a bit. Dull. May question to yah all (seems to fit in this thread.). How would slavic women feel about going together with a friend to (a compensated) date in a strip bar? I don't go there much myself, seem to remember seeing men with girlfriends there (might have been dancers having a break). Think this might be interesting with my (young) girlfriend (s) , as a compensation or alteration for watching porn with her. Has anyone s-g to report?

I have taken several girlfriends to strip clubs and the results have always been excellent. Firstly the working girls are more interested and then I have found that my

Girlfriends have been turned on. Even enjoyed a 3-some in Penthouse with one of the dancers. Highly recommended!

[Prosal]

Think this might be interesting with my (young) girlfriend (s) , as a compensation or alteration for watching porn with her. Has anyone s-g to report?

As a side note and from my experience, Russian dyevs are MUCH more excited to the idea of going in a swingers club (not necessarily to participate, but as a spectator and if the mood is right, for public sex) than in a strip bar.

[Prosal]

Agreed, compensated says a lot, but in the long run, it may get a bit. Dull. May question to yah all (seems to fit in this thread.). How would slavic women feel about going together with a friend to (a compensated) date in a strip bar? I don't go there much myself, seem to remember seeing men with girlfriends there (might have been dancers having a break). Think this might be interesting with my (young) girlfriend (s) , as a compensation or alteration for watching porn with her. Has anyone s-g to report?

I've done it two or three times, it was not a positive experience. The GFs felt rather uncomfortable, which, admittedly, is comprehensible. Strip clubs, despite all their wonders, are by nature a bit shady.

The only time I had a fun experience was with a GF herself stripper in a upscale club in Piter who visited me in Paris. Blondinka, eyes to get lost in, some 1. 80m plus Louboutin heels, hairs weaved with Zwarovski gems, sexy designers clothes, ect. The whole package. I took her to the local Hustler Club, and soon there was a dozen of EE strippers who came chatting. I downed two bottles of vodka with her and the girls. It was fun night indeed, as despite of those woman's talks, she remained very cuddly with me (which consolidated my position there).