Russian Women - Opinions and Advice

[YummyPL]

You are 'good friends', not living together. Why are you afraid that she might see your scratches on your back?

Ha ha ha. No I am not worried my wife seeing the scratches. I am thinking about Lana and Olga, the girls I am "dating" in Moscow seeing the scratches. I don't think Olga would say anything and will probably try harder to please me, but I am certain that Lana will say something.

My wife knows I have sexual relationships outside the marriage. I am almost totally honest with her. Probably far more honest than most men. I have nothing to hide from her. We are still "together" (not divorced) because it works for us. I suspect we will get closer as we grow older and simple companionship becomes more important.

[YellowPaul]

Russian girls are well aware that the west is a new lease on life for them if they are over 25. I'm sure you guys know that this is the turning point for girls in Russia. It has to be children and marriage before 25 or they are too old. In the west they could push this until 35 in modern times.

Otherwise, a country full of beautiful women who largely come from broken families with either no father, or worse, that have 'father issues' proved to be quite the dream destination for an older guy. The very last girl (26 yo) I was sleeping with told me, among many other things, that her first boy friend was over 10 years her senior. Her Italian sugar daddy was over 40 with her being 20 or 21 travelling to and from Italy to be with him, and a string of other older men in her life. Her reasoning was that she lost her father when she was 13 and was attracted to older men.

My thoughts exactly. I dated a Russian cougar here last year and all she had was her body as she must have looked at least 10 years younger. Basically she used some older guy for immigration to the country, and she lives a better life here then she could ever back come. She dates way more men here and younger too compared to Russia and FSU where women approaching 40 are a pretty much ignored she is living it up.

[Stravinsky]

I have never been married but have dated quite a few fresh "off the boat" girls. The change in mentality with these women occurs when they come to realize that their will ALWAYS be a man to take care of them in America. They will most certainly seek a man that gives the best balance to age, job / social prestige, and compatibility.

I think you've got it all wrong Climax. The change in mentality with these women occurs when they come to realize that they DO NOT need a man to take of them.

[Stravinsky]

The scratches are not the problem, they are just a symptom of your screwed up sexual life traveling around the FKK scene. As is your wife's overweight.

Well, this is always the problem with being honest-some sick fuck will try to use it to their advantage. As always, a rant like this reveals more about the accuser than the accused. I'm sure we're all sorry for the emotional scars you carry around with you, Ganesha. If you would like to speak honestly about yourself, as Yummy did, you might get a sincere response. Otherwise, you're just taking up valuable disk storage.

[Ganesha]

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My wife and I are good friends but if we lived together I am sure we would be divorced. We just had our 23rd anniversary.

You are 'good friends', not living together. Why are you afraid that she might see your scratches on your back?

Is this relationship still more intimate than you admit to yourself? You don't help your wife to make a new start in life, when you don't know for yourself what kind of relationship you wish to have for your future life. The scratches are not the problem, they are just a symptom of your screwed up sexual life traveling around the FKK scene. As is your wife's overweight. You might think about a consensual divorce, making space for a start into new real-life relationship. This fucking around in the scene means avoiding a sexual activity embedded in a love relationship. I wish you all happiness for your future life!

[Climaxnow]

I have never been married but have dated quite a few fresh "off the boat" girls. The change in mentality with these women occurs when they come to realize that their will ALWAYS be a man to take care of them in America. They will most certainly seek a man that gives the best balance to age, job / social prestige, and compatibility.

[DavidVanSchuma]

Examples which I thought would be mentioned. When I was courting Russian girls and they responded with being cautious or that they have something to lose, I often responded with an example of a friend of mine which is not dissimilar, who married and looked after a Russian girl for a number of years before she just left him for something slightly higher middle class. I'm sure she was just stepping her way up and it continued after the next guy. For the person I was presenting to be, I had a lot more to lose than they did if they decided to use me.

Russian girls are well aware that the west is a new lease on life for them if they are over 25. I'm sure you guys know that this is the turning point for girls in Russia. It has to be children and marriage before 25 or they are too old. In the west they could push this until 35 in modern times. I wouldn't want to be the guy who has fallen in love and used for this gateway.

I come from the mind set that relationships have expiry dates and I'm probably a rather cold bastard when it comes to the end.

Otherwise, a country full of beautiful women who largely come from broken families with either no father, or worse, that have 'father issues' proved to be quite the dream destination for an older guy. The very last girl (26 yo) I was sleeping with told me, among many other things, that her first boy friend was over 10 years her senior. Her Italian sugar daddy was over 40 with her being 20 or 21 travelling to and from Italy to be with him, and a string of other older men in her life. Her reasoning was that she lost her father when she was 13 and was attracted to older men.

[TexasMorrell]

Does anyone have a good excuse for having lots of scratches down your back that look remarkably like fingernail scratches?

Nice problem to have.

[Stravinsky]

Does anyone have a good excuse for having lots of scratches down your back that look remarkably like fingernail scratches?

You live with a neurotic cat?

You used to work with Siegfried and Roy?

[Claxton]

Does anyone have a good excuse for having lots of scratches down your back that look remarkably like fingernail scratches?

Tell her her you had a fight with a bear who was trying to eat you.

[YummyPL]

Does anyone have a good excuse for having lots of scratches down your back that look remarkably like fingernail scratches?

[YummyPL]

A more philosophical question for the older married / divorced guys. In your personal case, what was the turning point in the marriage where things changed with the wife?

My wife and I got married in 1990 and had a great marriage and sex life with no kids for 11 years. I got a vasectomy when I was 22 by both of our choice. During this time I was in the Army Reserve but in a very specialized field. From September of 2001 to November of 2009 I was deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan for 5 of those 8 years. During those years my wife turned from a vibrant and happy 5'2" 105 pound person to a 150 pound total neurotic. We blame the Army but I really blame myself. I know deep down it is my fault. Like Jake, I am still married but 90% of the time we are apart. In 2007 while I was away from home I went to a strip club and took one of the strippers to my hotel. After 2009 I fucked a few more American escorts but I started traveling to Germany and got into the FKK scene and the rest is history. My wife and I are good friends but if we lived together I am sure we would be divorced. We just had our 23rd anniversary.

[Jake993]

A more philosophical question for the older married / divorced guys. In your personal case, what was the turning point in the marriage where things changed with the wife?

Definitely after the kid was born. We were married for almost 10 years before having a daughter. But with the stress of parenthood, the quality of our sex life dropped like a stone off a cliff. We are still married and coming up on 30 years, but for all practical purposes we live apart. I live and work in Russia and she lives and works back in the USA. I endured an almost sex-less marriage for 10 years while remaining faithful. On my first trip to Russia I fell off the wagon and have not looked back. My wife and I still get along great when I do come home, but if I lived at home, we would probably be divorced by now. It's better this way.

[Stravinsky]

Oh well, I got a great kid out of it.

... and the child is worth 10 of the mother.

[TexasMorrell]

A more philosophical question for the older married / divorced guys. In your personal case, what was the turning point in the marriage where things changed with the wife?

When she went to college. Was all down hill from there and she left in her first year of medical school. Left me and our kid and never looked back. Men were constantly trying to get to her once she started leaving the house on her own. Word to the wise, keep her happy but keep her close. She finally admitted she used me for a green card and getting pregnant was an accident. Oh well, I got a great kid out of it.