Russian Women - Opinions and Advice

[YummyPL]

Ok I understand your position. Their behaviour is highly suspicious but if you do not react soon such occasions will be never presented to you again!

Here is a low risk technique to find out what all this means...

Thanks for the words Comvos. I'm a little beyond that now but I appreciate the effort.

[Comvos2002]

Im going to ask everyone about a situation and I would appreciate feedback from people that have experience here.

I now have what I consider a real girlfriend in Moscow. I call her Ariel as her name is unusual and I dont want anyone connecting this report with her. So much so that I am not really exploring options for new girls and am doing minimal work to maintain old girls. So the last two times I was Moscow (in May and this past weekend) my girlfriend stayed with me in my apartment for the whole trip (8 nights and 2 nights, respectively). On both trips, we invited her friend Ksusha to stay with us for the night on one of the nights and went out to a activity called Клаустрофобия before returning to the apartment. For my taste, except being tally than I like, Ksusha is a knockout. I love her look.Fantastic body and lovely face. For my personal taste, she is a solid 8.

When we were out together, and when we were at the apartment together before sleeping, Ksusha was friendly, a little flirty, and very nice. She smiled a lot and seemed to be enjoying herself. There was alittle sexual talk but it was just talk and there was zero physical contact of sexual or even flirty nature during either evenings (she didnt put her hand on my knee or touch my arm while talking or any of that standard flirty stuff. We sat next to each other a couple of times so there was contact then). So that was our interaction...

Ok I understand your position. Their behaviour is highly suspicious but if you do not react soon such occasions will be never presented to you again!

Here is a low risk technique to find out what all this means. When you all 3 are together start talking enthusiastically on how good a 4 hands massage techique it feels I. E. It is like a double pleasure, it feels like all your body is touched, it connects with the spirit etc. Convince them and then start massaging together with one lady the one who is more likely to be jealous I. E. Your girlfriend. Order your gf to lay down, lead the massage, sit opposite from each other. While massaging stimulate you GF, arousal will grow something might happen then, if not ask to be massaged by them two, chances are they will start making out if they are courious, then switch again, you and your gf massaging her now, start kissing with your gf while massaging the other lady. You will find soon what will happen if is ok for your gf going on with that. Initially try to make them kiss each other and observe until they will make the first move to you, needless to say, before prepare a cosy atmosphere, make time management and have massage oil with you! Ah and let us know what happened after!

Cheers

[Gergiev]

Love hotel: they are all over the city.

http://www.podushkin.ru/

I went to 2 sauna sex parties:

The other one from MAMBA. I went several times, 5 K, more personal, held by a woman who looks after everything, girls are not professionals, a few young ones, but most are in their 30/40's, some even more. The mamasan made it easier for me to be in the discussion and the girls are open to personal intercourse, very interesting!

Sounds fascinating, Chercheur.

Thank you for elaborating!

[Chercheur]

Nice work, Chercheur, and well summarised!

Mind if ask the name of the 'love hotel' near Kitai Gorod?

And how did you manage to crack the sauna sex party scene?

Love hotel: they are all over the city.

http://www.podushkin.ru/

I went to 2 sauna sex parties:

One I got from SEXTALK, I went once. 10 K 4 young attractive girls (2 are on INTIMCITY for 8 K / hour) for about 10 men. I did not manage to well to get the girls, because you have to sort of "grab" them and take them to a private room, and that is not my way of doing it. On top of that, when I was with a girl, she did not want to have very personal intercourse in a public place. It was hard for me as I can speak to a person in Russian but I cannot enter into the discussion with several people speaking Russian. I end up talking to a cutie who was very interested in talking to a foreigner, but she had to leave before I could take her to a room.

The other one from MAMBA. I went several times, 5 K, more personal, held by a woman who looks after everything, girls are not professionals, a few young ones, but most are in their 30/40's, some even more. The mamasan made it easier for me to be in the discussion and the girls are open to personal intercourse, very interesting!

[Gergiev]

If you are looking for quality, Moscow is really the place to be, women are very attractive, very open to sex, and very passionate.

There are a lot of options for free sex, but for me it is too much time consuming and you can end up in a delicate situation, so my choice is pay sex.

one we met in a love hotel near Kita-Gorod.

I also went to private parties in a sauna, cost 5 kR ($140) for the whole afternoon, that includes food and fucking with 2, 3 or 4 women. You have to wait for a woman to be free and sex is less intimate and shorter, but you also meet real Russian people.

I am already longing to go back to Moscow.

Nice work, Chercheur, and well summarised!

Mind if ask the name of the 'love hotel' near Kitai Gorod?

And how did you manage to crack the sauna sex party scene?

[Putologist]

BTW. There is a free magazine out there called "Flirt". On the middle of it (page 24) there is a map of the Moscow subway stations. For each station they placed one or more girls with their respective phone numbers. See picture bellow.

Does somebody has any experience with the accuracy of this publication? Some ads are fake for sure. The idea is good IMO, would help some guys with orientation and distances.

[Putologist]

I agree regarding that Russian ladies have one of the highest quality. In other countries you have quality but not in that quantity; or quantity but not quality. In Russia, mostly you will have both Qs.

Plus, in my opinion, depending on what one is expecting, he will be better off with hooker. Why? Well it saves a lot of time, money and stress.

If you go stay with a girlfriend, you must spend your quality time (if you don't invest your quality time in her, she will think, she is not your main girlfriend, and that's where the jealousy stress begins, we don't need that stress). And on the long run it is even more expensive than the pro: Remembering that this is a culture of giving small presents and flowers (they will expect this from you, no excuses) and f course paying the bill at the pectopah.

Especially if one is in Russia for a short while (as tourist for example), time is his most precious good. And in order so save it, he got go to a pro or similar. What many guys want from GF: sex (not talking about literature, not talking about business). What most (if not all) guys want from pros: sex.

So IMHO don't see the real advantage in having a relationship. Well except the 1 night relationships.

Besides that you can order a GFE anyway.

If you are looking for quality, Moscow is really the place to be, women are very attractive, very open to sex, and very passionate.

There are a lot of options for free sex, but for me it is too much time consuming and you can end up in a delicate situation, so my choice is pay sex.

Out of the 15 different women I did fuck during this stay:

- 2 are real professionals from INTIMCITY.

- 13 are from MAMBA and at least 9 of them have a regular job and / or a husband and do pay sex for extra money.

- 10 were new to me and 5 I knew from a previous trip.

- 12 are attractive (7-8) or very attractive (9) (I like white skin, slim body, with curves).

- All but one make sex like a regular girlfriend and made me forget I was paying for it. 9 are very good lays and are very passionate in having sex and in those 9, 4 are outstanding: very attractive 8 or 9, and very passionate...

[Chercheur]

If you are looking for quality, Moscow is really the place to be, women are very attractive, very open to sex, and very passionate.

There are a lot of options for free sex, but for me it is too much time consuming and you can end up in a delicate situation, so my choice is pay sex.

Out of the 15 different women I did fuck during this stay:

- 2 are real professionals from INTIMCITY.

- 13 are from MAMBA and at least 9 of them have a regular job and / or a husband and do pay sex for extra money.

- 10 were new to me and 5 I knew from a previous trip.

- 12 are attractive (7-8) or very attractive (9) (I like white skin, slim body, with curves).

- All but one make sex like a regular girlfriend and made me forget I was paying for it. 9 are very good lays and are very passionate in having sex and in those 9, 4 are outstanding: very attractive 8 or 9, and very passionate.

- 9 came to my apartment, 4 I went to her apartment sometimes way out in the suburb and one we met in a love hotel near Kitaï-Gorod.

- Only one did prefer to talk to me in English.

Most of the times I did pay 10 kR ($280) for 2 hours, and a few times 5 kR or 7 kR.

I also went to private parties in a sauna, cost 5 kR ($140) for the whole afternoon, that includes food and fucking with 2, 3 or 4 women. You have to wait for a woman to be free and sex is less intimate and shorter, but you also meet real Russian people.

I do speak a little Russian and that helps a lot, but there are so many women on the market that the English speaking ones still make a good offer, probably more expensive.

Getting plenty of good sex in Moscow is very easy, but you have to do your own work, RTFF and spend some time on internet and / or in the right bars and clubs.

Budget is $500 a day, that includes accommodation (renting an apartment), eating and a 2 hours meeting every day.

I am already longing to go back to Moscow.

[Putologist]

I saw a strange situation yesterday: A foreign (tourist or business I don't know, just guessing because he spoke English) went to a bar. Two girls approach him or he approached the girls I don't know exactly I was a bit far and busy myself with a lady, but suddenly all of them were in the same table off the bar speaking in English. One woman was taller then him with black hair, the other blond and small, both not really very attractive imo, but maybe he was just looking for fun. After some vodkas and other drinks all 3 seem to have fun, I said to myself, what a lucky bastard. I guess I would have stopped by then and go home at that time since they consumed way too much alk. But again, we are all adults and lord of our behavior.

Two guys came into the pub, joined the table as if would be no big deal for the ladies, the man wondered who what was going on, but the ladies said something and he smiled. After a while they all left the place (after the poor bastard have paid all the bill, of course).

The 2 guys seemed to be normal (not mafiosi looking guys, they were wearing those small wallet with handles. Very typical for Russian men, see the picture bellow, very similar to the picture but a little smaller), I will not judge them or the ladies here, this could happen in any country BTW. But I confess to have a bad feeling about the happy ending of that event. I hope everything went fine for him.

As we saw on the post of Suka, we should never trust a hooker (which is valid for all countries, not only for Russia), to be always polite and respectful to her is ok, but don't put too much believe on their words. I am not saying they were hookers though.

Monger fends off attempted murder / robbery perpetrated by vicious bloodthirsty bandit tramps and their gang of hooligans!

Yes, I'm pleased to report that although I received a hell of a scare, I was fortunately in good enough physical condition to fight back against a face full of pepper spray and a deep laceration inflicted by an undetermined weapon, to lift up and throw two really fucked up podsirushkas by their hair against the wall and out on their asses in the hallway.

If there is one thing that's obvious, its that bandits are not necessarily known for their forethought in planning robberies. If your plan is to blast your victim in the face with a cloud of pepper spray, in the very small area just inside an apartment doorway, where you hang up your coats, you really should keep in mind that half of the cloud of pepper spray will blow right back into your own face...

[Putologist]

I don't think we are necessary dependent on economic factors / wars in order to get that special BJ in a parking lot, lift, park or any other location you can think of. If you have the necessary charm and the girl likes you, well then go for it guys, it is still possible. I had a lady some weeks ago who said quite openly "I like it also", she had money, she had Porsche (not unusual for a woman in big Russian cities). So IMO it is a question of fun (for both) too, not only money, but yes money and power are some of the "worlds greatest aphrodisiacs". But it seems that some dinosaurs think the women are still reacting the way they did on the past. They are dynamic, women in change. And again, women are different, you can not generalize it, specially in a multiethnical, multicultural country.

[Skwiskwis]

What's to understand? The history of all fabled mongering destinations (Once upon a time, when I was a soldier in Vietnam. Once upon a time, when I was in Russia just after the default. Once upon a time, when I was in Paris after the war ended) is tied to the economic state of that destination, which is why the Ukraine threads are full of wishes for a full-fledged economic meltdown, so as to bring Ukrainian girls back on their knees into the parking lots. For the price of a cigarette, presumably, and why more and more you see postings about finding the promised land in rural areas of Russia, I. E. the still grimly impoverished areas, where the girls are real girls and on their knees.

The simple truth is the girls didn't and don't like or want to swallow genetic material in a parking lot from FGs they just met, because if they really did like and want it they would still be doing it, and clearly they are not, at least not with FGs, not like they were doing it 'once upon a time' when men were real men and women were real women and 9's and 10's were on their knees in such numbers in parking lots you would have thought you were at a Milan fashion show, only better. Times, they have changed for mongers, and the parking lots of the major and inferior urban centers of Russia (I steadfastly refuse to name the alleged southern capital, even to diss it) are no longer that which they once were.

Of course they may doing it with Oligarchs, but that's a different thread and different parking lots, and tied to what they now expect for BJs, which your average FG can't offer (since we all know Oligarchs have superior genetic material to offer).

That's perfectly put!! A sad testament to the fact that Russia truly has evolved. Not to pour cold water on the topic of blow jobs, but it really is interesting to watch how a society evolves over time and to track key indicators to get hints into relative prosperity and how this impacts social behavior and perhaps even self esteem in young women. I mean, did they stop giving blow jobs in the restaurant parking lots because they no longer liked giving blow jobs? I doubt it. They stopped giving blow jobs in the parking lot because they felt they no longer NEEDED to. I think this is a key point to keep in mind when trying to understand how the sex scene evolves over time in a particular city or country.

[Jake993]

always a good blow job to be had in the restaurant parking lot. Now, it is what it is, a networking event.

That's perfectly put!! A sad testament to the fact that Russia truly has evolved. Not to pour cold water on the topic of blow jobs, but it really is interesting to watch how a society evolves over time and to track key indicators to get hints into relative prosperity and how this impacts social behavior and perhaps even self esteem in young women. I mean, did they stop giving blow jobs in the restaurant parking lots because they no longer liked giving blow jobs? I doubt it. They stopped giving blow jobs in the parking lot because they felt they no longer NEEDED to. I think this is a key point to keep in mind when trying to understand how the sex scene evolves over time in a particular city or country.

[Leggio1]

Some years ago, most of the Russian girls who attended "expat events", were on the hunt for a husband. Today, mos t of the girls who attend and can speak English are looking for new clients. They work for logistics companies, temp agencies, recruiters, etc and come to these events looking to network and get your business. IMHO, these events are a waste of time if you are just looking for sex.

That's not only true in Moscow but also for ambitious Russians living in major world cities. Years back, I use to attend real estate mixers held by Russians and Polish agents and always a good blow job to be had in the restaurant parking lot. Now, it is what it is, a networking event.

[Jake993]

Most of the women in that party seem to feel quite good with us foreigners, specially with the "bad boys". In fact there were more women than men (not unusual in Russian, they use to explain that with the many men killed in WW2). Specially young Russians ladies liked very much the company of, well Americans for example.

Actually I don't need to write this, since it is more than logical: -Which Russian lady would "pay" to go to an event full of foreigners guys with very bad, aroused, exotic well lets say creepy behavior. I don't see any logic in going to meet people I don't like. And we are talking here about very intelligent girls (who read millions of books LOL), they know exactly what to expect in such parties, some are even veterans.

Some years ago, most of the Russian girls who attended "expat events", were on the hunt for a husband. Today, mos t of the girls who attend and can speak English are looking for new clients. They work for logistics companies, temp agencies, recruiters, etc and come to these events looking to network and get your business. IMHO, these events are a waste of time if you are just looking for sex.

[Putologist]

Taste is a personal choice. And BTW, in the worst case there will be always our old good friend "google" to translate at least the basic stuff. (be sure there is enough battery).

If I am seeking a lady to discuss literature with, I will go to the library!

Now, that is very funny. You made my day.