Russian Women - Opinions and Advice

[Leggio1]

I'll repeat the lesson again for anyone reading. If you have any reason at all, not to completely trust someone that you know is not a very good person, don't even give them an opportunity to pull shit. Meet at a cafe, and preferably in the daytime, and spell out some clear warnings, that if they are even thinking about fucking with you, that you will have them chopped up into pieces and then their whole family will be disappeared.

This is terrible advice. Once you have a bad vibe, cut your losses immediately in EE. What wrong with you man? Making threats in foreign country get you bullet in head.

[Starchild2012]

I'll repeat the lesson again for anyone reading. If you have any reason at all, not to completely trust someone that you know is not a very good person, don't even give them an opportunity to pull shit. Meet at a cafe, and preferably in the daytime, and spell out some clear warnings, that if they are even thinking about fucking with you, that you will have them chopped up into pieces and then their whole family will be disappeared.

Wow. Glad you are safe. I now firmly believe this shit is happening all over the world as human beings are basically same. I had the same experience in the Philippines. The Evil which has possessed these women. Had me in her "TRUST" and then she played her game. Once she knew I'm into her. She made the move. I was very hurtful of even going to Philippines again and browsing through ISG that I came across your post.

Co-incidence & Similarities half way across the world.

1. I met her in dating site.

2. Not of good background but not that bad. Kinda in the middle.

3. I liked her and she was thankful for my gifts.

4. Was planning Live in relationship with her.

5. I think girls have some kinda love sense. Once she sensed I'm totally into her. She made the move. However, as in your post. If she wanted to kill me. She would have had better opportunities. May at that time. She couldn't find where I put my credit card and cash. Or she couldn't size my worth?

6. It did not get violent but she brought one of her friends on that day. It was just pure luck that I only lost money not my life with the stuff they mixed on my drink.

7. They are not too smart, just zombies. If she had been good. She would have anyway made 10 times more and good condo to live.

Your words are different but the trust you had with the women is the same I had built and she broke it. I never thought she would do this to me. BUT I don't know exactly how did she found out. I have reached that level of trust in her before she made the move. I mean it was perfect. I had totally let my guard down around her for few weeks before this happened. And I never do that.

I have been mongering for 15 years now and been single all my life and this is the first time I decided to go long term as frankly I was tired of chasing. I'm getting old nearing 40's and pressure from parents to get married. I thought she is the one after screening 100s of girls during last few years.

I'm honestly scared, paranoid and If I will ever trust any girls that come in contact with me in this line. I will let my parents pick a girl If ever I think of long term relationship. I'm self employed so finding a girl in work is also not possible. But this whole online dating is filled with risk that could cost life itself one day.

I'm fine if I die in car accident or some disease but getting killed by the one you gave your heart is truly tragic.

[Stravinsky]

You probably did the best thing, under the circumstances. Particularly when they start demanding to know floor and apartment number.

[Aoratos]

I was writing in too much of a hurry yesterday, which caused me to omit some key info. Actually. 6 months prior to this incident, Tanya had pulled one scam on me. Since over the years, I had established a pretty good track record of trust with her for not scamming me, we had met up and I gave her a nice gift on one particular evening when she came over with a new girlfriend. As had happened many times before, then Tanya left us to go on her way. But five minutes later, her girlfriend's phone starts ringing and she jumps up and runs for the door and takes off.

So I actually did have ample reason not to trust her anymore, though to ensure she couldn't pull the same scam again, I simply told her that I can't agree to give her any more gifts, until after everything went smoothly. Tanya tried some bogus explanation of an excuse for scamming me, and if I had any sense at all, I never would have called her again, but I broke the monger rule that requires us to always move on and not look back, and show no mercy and no forgiveness, once one of these tricky tramps takes advantage of our generous trusting good nature..

I had a chance to meet 2 beautiful girls that wanted to come to my apartment when I was staying in Yekaterinburg, sure I was only speaking to one on vk for months but she insisted that her friend come also.

That being said, customarily I meet girls outside of the building and bring them upstairs to avoid anything bad happening. 10 minutes before their arrival her friend who knew English well (I speak average Russian) demanded I tell them my floor and apartment number.

Now, these girls were both incredibly beautiful and sexy. But I turned it down.

Your thoughts?

[Suka Shalava]

what a strange tale.

so, what happened to tanya?

and why on earth would you open your door to gang of strange men?

i was writing in too much of a hurry yesterday, which caused me to omit some key info. actually. 6 months prior to this incident, tanya had pulled one scam on me. since over the years, i had established a pretty good track record of trust with her for not scamming me, we had met up and i gave her a nice gift on one particular evening when she came over with a new girlfriend. as had happened many times before, then tanya left us to go on her way. but five minutes later, her girlfriend's phone starts ringing and she jumps up and runs for the door and takes off.

so i actually did have ample reason not to trust her anymore, though to ensure she couldn't pull the same scam again, i simply told her that i can't agree to give her any more gifts, until after everything went smoothly. tanya tried some bogus explanation of an excuse for scamming me, and if i had any sense at all, i never would have called her again, but i broke the monger rule that requires us to always move on and not look back, and show no mercy and no forgiveness, once one of these tricky tramps takes advantage of our generous trusting good nature.

but i did give her another chance, and that's what led me to let my guard down. we met up, and i invited her and her girlfriend to come to my apartment for a visit. her girlfriend was actually a lady that tanya had introduced to me before. tanya was hoping i would agree to spend another evening with her. but i was not interested. instead, we spent almost an hour long pleasant and interesting conversation on the couch, catching up and drinking tea and juice. if they had wanted to rob me, that certainly would have been a much easier chance for success, especially because the girlfriend she had brought with her that evening, was about 5'8" and weighed 160 pounds. tanya herself is a built like a tough little tank. while sitting on the couch, either one of them could have probably tried garotting me from behind as they were coming back from the bathroom, while the other one would have had a simple time getting the key out the door. in comparison, the girlfriend tanya brought over on the pepper-spray attack night was about 5 feet tall and only weighed 95 pounds, and much easier to fight back against.

anyway, after a nice talk that evening, and my declining to repeat dating tanya's girlfriend, tanya and her friend said goodnight and left, and so i just did not think i should be worrying that she had some evil murderous plans in store for me. that's kind of why i suspect her criminal husband or their gang put her up to it, though i know tanya herself has been locked up more than once for shoplifting and breaking into cars, etc.

i'll repeat the lesson again for anyone reading. if you have any reason at all, not to completely trust someone that you know is not a very good person, don't even give them an opportunity to pull shit. meet at a cafe, and preferably in the daytime, and spell out some clear warnings, that if they are even thinking about fucking with you, that you will have them chopped up into pieces and then their whole family will be disappeared.

let me be very clear, i am certainly not advocating the perpetration any kind of criminal acts upon the citizenry of the glorious motherland! always obey all laws! but you have the right to defend yourself, and it never hurts to eliminate any suspicion your new acquaintance might have about your willingness to use maximum violence and deadly force against them and their associates, if they have any ideas about pulling some bandit shit on you.

now strav, you must have mis-read my post, because i was not willingly going to open my door if i thought tanya's gang was waiting for me in the hall. they were waiting downstairs outside, though that was their mistake. as i tried to explain, the moment after i opened my door to let tanya and her girlfriend in, i turned my back on them to lock my door. when i turned around, to help them off with their coats, i was greeted by a blinding cloud of pepper spray. in the first instant, i had no clue what the fuck had happened, but it only took me a second, even though i was blinded, to see the dark black evil in their eyes and their faces, that this was not going to be just a robbery, because i was certainly not going to give up easily, which meant they were trying to secure my key, then call their pals to come up, let them in, and cut my throat and throw me out my seventh floor window.

at that point, i just knew that i had to get the key turned, open the door, throw them out, and lock myself in. i did not want any kind of drawn out fight with them, because i would have eventually had to inflict more than just bruises, and by nature, i don't beat up women. not my thing. all i wanted was to immediately throw them out.

when i first opened my door to let them in, of course i looked through the passport window to make sure they were alone, and even after i opened my door to let them in, i peered down the hall and listened to make sure there was nobody else around.

[Stravinsky]

Monger fends off attempted murder / robbery perpetrated by vicious bloodthirsty bandit tramps and their gang of hooligans!

What a strange tale...

So, what happened to Tanya?

And why on Earth would you open your door to gang of strange men?

[Suka Shalava]

Monger fends off attempted murder / robbery perpetrated by vicious bloodthirsty bandit tramps and their gang of hooligans!

Yes, I'm pleased to report that although I received a hell of a scare, I was fortunately in good enough physical condition to fight back against a face full of pepper spray and a deep laceration inflicted by an undetermined weapon, to lift up and throw two really fucked up podsirushkas by their hair against the wall and out on their asses in the hallway.

If there is one thing that's obvious, its that bandits are not necessarily known for their forethought in planning robberies. If your plan is to blast your victim in the face with a cloud of pepper spray, in the very small area just inside an apartment doorway, where you hang up your coats, you really should keep in mind that half of the cloud of pepper spray will blow right back into your own face.

Now I, being respectful of police doing their jobs, and not being a radical protester type, had never experienced being pepper-sprayed before. When I get pulled over for a traffic violation, I am polite to the officer. And I don't March in protests where police need to use crowd control to disperse angry mobs.

I met Tanya a few years ago, through an agency. I was certainly aware that she was not from a good family, but she never tried to pull any scams on me. She had some interesting girlfriends that she introduced me to, typically they were brunetkas in their early 20's and while far from being hot models, they were hungry for a chance to release a lot of pent-up sexual frustration upon lucky me. Through all those encounters, Tanya always told me that she was satisfied with the level of my generosity, for the gifts she received for those introductions.

So, Tanya had been in my apartment at least six times, maybe more. Sitting on the sofa, having some brief but pleasant conversations, she never gave me any extra reason to suspect that the day would come when she would greet me with an attempt to incapacitate me with a toxic agent, so she could let her boys in to rob me and throw me out my 7th story window!

But that was her plan this year. I suspect that either her new husband or his gang proposed the robbery. In the months leading to this Pearl Harbor, I had coincidentally been doing five or six hundred stomach crunch exercises every morning. That preparation, combined with a heavy dose of adrenaline, was likely what saved my life. I certainly could not see or breath, once I was blasted at point blank, with a face full of pepper spray. Instinctively, I immediately realized that my only hope was to grab the key in the lock that I had just turned before turning around to say "Come in", unlock the door, and open it, to push them out of my apartment and into the hallway, and then lock my door. They had the same idea, and so we struggled for the key. I managed to elbow and punch and kick Tanya and her girlfriend in the face, head, and chest to get their hands off the key, though while I was doing that, Tanya stabbed me with something, fortunately only in my knee, and probably while I was executing a roundhouse kick to her head.

In a brawl that only took 15 or 20 seconds, I beat them off just long enough to turn the key twice to unlock the door. Fortunately for me, their gang was still waiting downstairs, thinking that the pepper spray would be enough to subdue me. If they had been waiting in the hallway, I would have had no chance once I opened my door. More evidence that their bandit planning is not very good.

Once I had my door open, my panic immediately change to rage and fury, and I grabbed them one at a time by their hair and slammed their heads as hard as I could into the wall, and then lifted them up and threw them on their asses into the hallway. I locked my door, and headed straight for the bathtub to run the hand held sprayer over my head and face with cold water. It was only at that point that I realized that my entire head and face felt like I was on fire, and that I could not see or breathe. After a few minutes when I could open my eyes to see just a little, I noticed the deep gash in my knee bleeding profusely, and so I started applying direct pressure to stop the bleeding.

The lessons to be learned here. Don't ever trust anyone, especially someone that you think that you can. Never turn your back on anyone, without being mentally and physically prepared to fight off an attack. Always try to plan meetings at a cafe.

A few months after this happened, I was heading out of the center one evening to meet a new lady, as she insisted that I go to her neighborhood for our first date. I found a good taxi who I hired to be a temporary bodyguard, (not the best idea though) , and then I explained to Zhenya that we will have a pleasant meeting, but I also warned this new acquaintance that if she was planning to pull any bandit shit on me, I promised her that she would be sliced up into little pieces after my army buddies had a long initiation party with her.

[Kiev Freak]

My friend, I can totally agree with you. Russia & ukraine is great destinations if you speak langue. Otherwise both countries are crazy expensive, mostly hard to find semi pros and mongerings restricted with some night clubs and websites (mamba).

In Thailand girls are waiting for you with wet pussy and praying for you to drill them one day only for 1500 baht (50$). Just my 2 cents.

But another thing is thailand is 10 hours from Istanbul while Kiev 2 hours and St piter 3 hours.

Happy mongering for all.

I feel ya Iceberg.

I'm following your posts from Ukraine thread and came here. I understand this is Russian / Ukraine forum / topic. However, the amount of time, energy and money you spent to get laid with freebies would have gotten you 100 lays in The Philippines easily.

I feel this is way too much effort on your side to get laid. This shouldn't be this way. I'm not sure your taste on women. May be you only like blond Caucasian women. But if you are just looking for fresh P*why all day and night for free (plus usual dinner etc). You should try Philippines once in your life. I guarantee you will be Sexed Out.

I'm now realizing how easy it is in Philippines. As grass is greener on the other side thingy and people get bored eating same food everyday, I started researching on Ukraine / Russia and due to visa issues, got it delayed. I just wanted to find a new place for vacation after spending couple of years in Philippines.

If you just want pure fun with no hassle and drama. Go to Philippines. This is way too much work for mongering to get laid when you have money and time. You should be getting laid every hour.

I understand the taste in women. Its good to have change. But, just to keep a BASE, where P*sy will be waiting for you 24/7 I would suggest go to Philippines and to hunt and wait and play the endless game, we can try all over the world.

I'm sorry if this was off topic regarding your travel. I just felt you should know other places where you could easily get laid with 1/10th the effort.

Everyone speaks english in Ph and there is no issues of discrimination etc. You will feel like a king in Philippines.

As they say." Once You Go Asian. You Never Go Caucasian") good luck

[DavidVanSchuma]

Yummy, I think that you have a great understanding in your relationship. Libido mismatch is a huge point of difference as a married couple ages and your wife is very realistic and understanding if she can live with this.

[YummyPL]

YPL, does that work the other way around?

In other words, does she see other men when you're away?

I'm not sure. She has never told me she is having sex with other men (and I never asked) but I know she has male "friends" that she goes out with. She is 4 years older than me (now 49) and seemed to reach he sexual peak when she was in her early 30s. She certainly has no significant interest in fucking me but I guess it is possible. I think it is clear to her that I don't have any problem with her having sex with other men.

[Gergiev]

My wife knows I have sexual relationships outside the marriage. I am almost totally honest with her. Probably far more honest than most men. I have nothing to hide from her. We are still "together" (not divorced) because it works for us. I suspect we will get closer as we grow older and simple companionship becomes more important.

YPL, does that work the other way around?

In other words, does she see other men when you're away?

[Jake993]

Nadya: Russia teaches you to do bad things more often.

Out of the mouths of babes.

[YummyPL]

Nadya: Russia teaches you to do bad things more often.

[Jake993]

My wife knows I have sexual relationships outside the marriage. I am almost totally honest with her. Probably far more honest than most men. I have nothing to hide from her. We are still "together" (not divorced) because it works for us. I suspect we will get closer as we grow older and simple companionship becomes more important.

Yummy,

You bring up a good point. I was watching a movie the other day about a guy who was about to be married to a girl who he just learned liked other women better than men. The movie was set in the 60's so it was important for this "society girl" to be seen married with children despite her orientation. Before the wedding she comes clean with the young man and offers to let him have a mistress after they are married so that he can still keep up appearances. The young man in question is confused and his father tries to counsel him saying, "son, a lasting marriage is not always about love. Sometimes it is more about the partnership". You may not be "in love" anymore, but it does not man that you don't respect each other, care for each other and make a good team. While not a popular topic in this modern day, it IS possible to separate sex from love.

[TexasMorrell]

Ha ha ha. No I am not worried my wife seeing the scratches. I am thinking about Lana and Olga, the girls I am "dating" in Moscow seeing the scratches. I don't think Olga would say anything and will probably try harder to please me, but I am certain that Lana will say something.

My wife knows I have sexual relationships outside the marriage. I am almost totally honest with her. Probably far more honest than most men. I have nothing to hide from her. We are still "together" (not divorced) because it works for us. I suspect we will get closer as we grow older and simple companionship becomes more important.

I think Ganesha now knows he read way too much into your original question.