Russian Women - Opinions and Advice

[Prosal]

Just for the record.

[Sympalogy]

Sympa, the correct response in this situation is to immediately fire back to the Russian girl,"Great, because I like my Russians to be really bad". Keeps things in the right spirit that they like. A number of Brownie points won with this and similar. Some girls, LOL.

E.

In hindsight, I can come up with a million and one ways to have fun with what she said LOL.

However, I did not expect it at all. It came out of left field, and I was just like: "WTF? Is this really happening?"

But hey, I actually appreciated the honesty. I prefer to have an honest answer, than a lie.

Still, it's the first time that a girl, who is otherwise very cool and highly educated, just does not care how well or badly I'd take criticism.

She said it with a good heart though.

I can tell. It wasn't rude at all, like some American or Argentinian girls can be absolutely rude and even condescending.

She said it with the innocence of someone honest, who thinks that honesty is the way things should be. It just was direct, in an unexpected way. Haha

[Climaxnow]

There is a deep feeling, specifically Russian, of contempt for everything conventional, for everything that most Western people consider as "good" (in a moral sense),"reasonable" or "politically correct".

This is an interesting quirk of EE behavior. When well educated EE's are initially thrown into Western society, it is shocking how they are almost disgusted by the culture of the well educated and there specific cliques. Yet, with time, as they slowly assimilate into those groups, the social circles that once made them comfortable in the beginning become low class and beneath them. Very weird, but saw it many times.

[Excess]

Things like : "Your Russian is really bad". They say it, as if it's not a big deal, and I am not culturally used to that. LOL

Sympa, the correct response in this situation is to immediately fire back to the Russian girl,"Great, because I like my Russians to be really bad". Keeps things in the right spirit that they like. A number of Brownie points won with this and similar. Some girls, LOL.

E.

[Prosal]

They have a thing though where they are very direct, more blatantly honest than I am used to. As in, they will tell you the truth, rather than deal with it in the politically correct way.

There is a deep feeling, specifically Russian, of contempt for everything conventional, for everything that most Western people consider as "good" (in a moral sense),"reasonable" or "politically correct".

[Sympalogy]

It had been my experience as well that the Russian girls are really high-quality women. Even ones that grab you by their looks, when you talk to them, are very well read, and many of them have an artistic talent, like they play the piano, or ballet.

I have not mixed much with Russian girls before my last trip to Barcelona. But honestly, I am impressed with both their looks, and their level of education.

They have a thing though where they are very direct, more blatantly honest than I am used to. As in, they will tell you the truth, rather than deal with it in the politically correct way.

Things like : "Your Russian is really bad". They say it, as if it's not a big deal, and I am not culturally used to that. LOL

[Prosal]

Prosal,

I absolutely agree with you there. I find that any evening with a Russian girl (even if it does NOT end in sex) is interesting and often educational.

Jake

Right. Most of them are great conversationalists. And if you can get them into a witty and interesting conversation (accompanied by a few mojitos LOL) and break down any defensive barriers they have, that will usually lead to sex if you play your cards right.

[Jake993]

Totally agree. That said, I find Russian girls intelligence, or at least cultural knowledge, astounding, even among the ditzier ones. Most are very well read in my experience, and by-and-large, far more learned in classical arts (literature, painting, music) than Western or American girls. Not even talking about Asians, who are, for most of all, culturally totally hopeless. I guess this is because of the Russian schools, which are still very Soviet in many ways, which does involve lots of repetitive learning and studying the classics.

Prosal,

I absolutely agree with you there. I find that any evening with a Russian girl (even if it does NOT end in sex) is interesting and often educational.

Jake

[Prosal]

What was that old saying?"There are lies, damned lies and statistics".

Totally agree. That said, I find Russian girls intelligence, or at least cultural knowledge, astounding, even among the ditzier ones. Most are very well read in my experience, and by-and-large, far more learned in classical arts (literature, painting, music) than Western or American girls. Not even talking about Asians, who are, for most of all, culturally totally hopeless. I guess this is because of the Russian schools, which are still very Soviet in many ways, which does involve lots of repetitive learning and studying the classics.

[Jake993]

Russian women's cultural knowledge is often astounging. They are not only beautiful, but also intelligent (a huge turn-on for me).

The last OEDC education report says that Russia is the most educated country in the world, with some 88% of the adult population that have attained at least upper secondary education, and 54% that have a tertiary qualification.

Interesting stats Prosal,

Not that surprising I suppose considering 80 years of a centralized education system. However, if you were to stop any professional over the age of 40 on the streets of Moscow and ask him (or her) what he (or she) thinks of the current state of education in Russia, they won't hesitate a moment and tell you that it has "gone to shit". While those statistics are probably correct, there is a huge debate here in Russia about the QUALITY of the education being administered. A young woman I know with top marks from a prestigious economics school said that many (if not half) her classmates are just "warming a seat" until they graduate and move to a job at a Western firm that has been purchased for them by their wealthy fathers.

What was that old saying?"There are lies, damned lies and statistics".

[Prosal]

Russian women's cultural knowledge is often astounging. They are not only beautiful, but also intelligent (a huge turn-on for me).

The last OEDC education report says that Russia is the most educated country in the world, with some 88% of the adult population that have attained at least upper secondary education, and 54% that have a tertiary qualification.

[Gergiev]

And the first "fuck-me message" they send you is when they start to seriously drink with you.

My experience has usually been that if a Russian/Ukrainian woman has more than 2/3 drinks with you, then she will be offended if you don't at least try to have sex with her...

[Prosal]

That's the great thing about Slavs. When they are into you, they need to f* fast.

+1. And the first "fuck-me message" they send you is when they start to seriously drink with you.

BTW one of the Russian girls with who I've had some of the most boozing nights out (and I've had MANY seriously boozing nights out with Russian girls) was a girl who had on her mamba profile "drinking habits: teetotal". LOL.

Once more, what a Russian girl writes on their profile must be taken with a grain of salt. (rolleyes).

[The Tanuki]

This reminds me a Russian girl that I've dated this winter. We already had four or five mojitos each. And I perfectly know that when a Russian girl begins to drink, it's that she wants to fuck. It's a VERY positive message that she sends you. But she still tried to "test" me. She looked at me very seriously and said that I was a super nice guy, but that we could only be friends. I knew it was BS. It was a test. If I had answered "ok", I would have appeared like a weakling, a guy who not even able to be forward about what he wants, a guy not worth a adventure. So I just looked at her without a word and smiled in a ironic but indulgent way, to make her feel that what she just said was only total childish BS. And I ordered two other mojitos. One hour later she was in my bed for some 1000 mph rough and dirty sex.

This one brought me a chuckle, remembering my Moscow conquest a few months ago. The second night that I met "N" we went to dance and drink at Petrovich (if I'd been there more I'd have known that was a big clue). She got pretty hammered, as did I, but I got her back to my hotel about 4 am. With only a thong on, she looked at me and said "We're just going to be friends right?" I told her no fuckin way, not now. And she was riding the red horse immediately from there. Interesting corroboration there. Hehehe.

The Tanuki

[Climaxnow]

Totally agree. It sends a pretty clear message. Same for alcohol. I tried to explain that to a guy on another board, as he complained that on the four dates he got in Piter, three was girls who "didn't drink". So I tried to explain him that a girl who doesn't drink WITH YOU is not necesserely a girl who doesn't drink. She is just sending the message that she is not available to let herself go for you. A very clear message. Maybe later in the evening this same girl will dance on the bar at Coyote Ugly totally drunk with her friends. .

I have always viewed alcohol as something they could lay blame to for being so quickly promiscuous in case the relationship developed into something. That's the great thing about Slavs. When they are into you, they need to f* fast.