Russian Women - Opinions and Advice

[Dogger862]

I myself already got into middle age and honestly, I find the late teens BS more and more insufferable. I had a 19 yo GF last winter (who came straight from Omsk) who couldn't take her hands from her smartphone to constantly SMS her friends, check her FaceBook or Vkontakte "walls", ect ect. Even at cinema. It was simply silly. Even the way she dressed sometimes embarrassed me, very "Russian provinces hot teen" style. She was fun to be with though, which counterbalanced. (smilie)

Yeah, I even notice the difference between the 18-19 yo and the 22-23 yo. Leila, who I have been sponsoring since March '08 turned 22 this last October. I picked up her little sister this summer, she turned 18, and I can see a big difference between the two, as well as my attitude toward the younger versus the older.

In '08 I didn't notice all of those annoying 18 yo habits. The phone, the tardiness, the "whatever" attitude. Now they annoy me. But still, not annoying enough to kick her out of bed in the morning. Even when the first thing she reaches for is her phone.

Cheers

[Prosal]

Wait. I am a little confused. This photo is of the teeny-bopper provincalka. Right? Surely not the 30 year old. Right?

Right. Last pic is the 19 yo Siberian gopotelka (well, she doesn't deserve this epithet, just to joke) playing with her mobile.

[Jake993]

. I had a 19 yo GF last winter (who came straight from Omsk) who couldn't take her hands from her smartphone to constantly SMS her friends, check her FaceBook or Vkontakte "walls", ect ect. Even at cinema. It was simply silly. Even the way she dressed sometimes embarrassed me, very "Russian provinces hot teen" style.

Wait. I am a little confused. This photo is of the teeny-bopper provincalka. Right? Surely not the 30 year old. Right?

[Prosal]

As a man entering middle age it's great to have it confirmed that the over 30 age group in Russia is far from being a disappointment

I myself already got into middle age and honestly, I find the late teens BS more and more insufferable. I had a 19 yo GF last winter (who came straight from Omsk) who couldn't take her hands from her smartphone to constantly SMS her friends, check her FaceBook or Vkontakte "walls", ect ect. Even at cinema. It was simply silly. Even the way she dressed sometimes embarrassed me, very "Russian provinces hot teen" style. She was fun to be with though, which counterbalanced. (smilie)

[Prosal]

Great work Prosal, she looks very nice indeed.

As a man entering middle age it's great to have it confirmed that the over 30 age group in Russia is far from being a disappointment, and in fact seems to be one that should be targeted specifically for the high standard of women contained within. Great news.

Those Russian 30 and so women who travel extensively usually are working mentally and physically draining jobs and need some adventure, romance and sex, provided that it is with a man of same cultural and social level. At this age a woman expects a man to be successful and intelligent, anything less isn't a man worth fucking.

By the way, we finished pretty drunk yesterday night in the designer's apartment where she lives during her week in Paris (which belongs to her best friend's sponsor). I took some pics (smilie).

[Prosal]

Amen brother. Yesterday was our really first cold snap in Moscow.

In Paris also yesterday was a bit cold, but nothing to prevent a Russian dev from strolling around with a bareback stomach. (wink)

[Jake993]

What makes Russian women special (beside their striking beauty, their emotional generosity, their deap-seated wish for submission, their loyalty, their cultural knowledge, and their ardor for sex) is that they not only dress to impress, but also to seduce. Stockings, heels and fine lingerie are mandatory accessories for them. Which is great.

Amen brother. Yesterday was our really first cold snap in Moscow. We woke to a chilly minus 10C which eventually crept up to near freezing. But this first cold snap has a bight side as it brought out all of the winter regalia that the Moscvitcha's are famous for. On the walk from the the metro to my office I was treated to a beautiful display of shapely legs in tight pants slid into knee high leather boots. Now, it's no substitute for the scanty summer outfit these girls wear to the office, but there was just something about seeing all of the new winter clothes these girls have bought for the season that gives me a little tingle. New coats with fur collars and hoods, furry little hats and tight leggings that seem to have been spray painted on. Almost makes the Moscow winter bearable.

[Gergiev]

What makes Russian women special (beside their striking beauty, their emotional generosity, their deap-seated wish for submission, their loyalty, their cultural knowledge, and their ardor for sex) is that they not only dress to impress, but also to seduce. Stockings, heels and fine lingerie are mandatory accessories for them. Which is great.

Prosal, these dispatches are most heartening and also chime with this writer's experiences.

Keep up the good work, old boy!

VG

[Borderland]

All "players" hunting in the FSU territories know that attractive and charming MILFs, who are sexually and emotionally starving, are available ad nauseum in this part of the world.

I love early 20's girls, but more and more I opt for the option of hunting 28 + ladies. Although I have never specifically pursued single moms, I have run across more than a few. And many of them are still looking really really great. With this group, what has worked for me is the basic romantic dating approach. A date over dinner with wine usually does the trick. The only thing they are really looking for is spending nice time. Romance and personality go far with them. And especially experience, refinment (not only but including in dressing style) witt and intelligence. Also what is great with this group is that once they are yours they tend to fuck you like true freaks, as they know that the end of their sexual life approaches. And they have absolutly no materialistic expectations.

Was this week: 36 yo, no kids. 1.75 cm (5'8") , great slender body, vacationning in Paris. Dated through mamba, meeting in Saint Germain des Pres. Three bottles of Chardonnay in a nice cafe, a few Baileys in another one. Et voila, making up in my apartment at noon after a night (we fucked during something like five hours) of 1000 mph passionate, no holds barred (as usual with Russian women) sex.

Great work Prosal, she looks very nice indeed.

As a man entering middle age it's great to have it confirmed that the over 30 age group in Russia is far from being a disappointment, and in fact seems to be one that should be targeted specifically for the high standard of women contained within. Great news.

[Prosal]

This is has nothing to do with Russian women

What makes Russian women special (beside their striking beauty, their emotional generosity, their deap-seated wish for submission, their loyalty, their cultural knowledge, and their ardor for sex) is that they not only dress to impress, but also to seduce. Stockings, heels and fine lingerie are mandatory accessories for them. Which is great.

[Prosal]

All "players" hunting in the FSU territories know that attractive and charming MILFs, who are sexually and emotionally starving, are available ad nauseum in this part of the world.

I love early 20's girls, but more and more I opt for the option of hunting 28 + ladies. Although I have never specifically pursued single moms, I have run across more than a few. And many of them are still looking really really great. With this group, what has worked for me is the basic romantic dating approach. A date over dinner with wine usually does the trick. The only thing they are really looking for is spending nice time. Romance and personality go far with them. And especially experience, refinment (not only but including in dressing style) witt and intelligence. Also what is great with this group is that once they are yours they tend to fuck you like true freaks, as they know that the end of their sexual life approaches. And they have absolutly no materialistic expectations.

Was this week: 36 yo, no kids. 1.75 cm (5'8") , great slender body, vacationning in Paris. Dated through mamba, meeting in Saint Germain des Pres. Three bottles of Chardonnay in a nice cafe, a few Baileys in another one. Et voila, making up in my apartment at noon after a night (we fucked during something like five hours) of 1000 mph passionate, no holds barred (as usual with Russian women) sex.

[Hedonian]

That's something I noticed of Russian women too, they like to get incredibly clean before and after sex, including brushing their teeth. They can take an age in there but in my experience it hasn't been about 'expecting more orifices to be in play' merely that's how they're brought up. They also often insist that you shower too and give your dick a good clean. A few times I've taken my shower and will be getting it on with her giving me a BJ only for the girl to insist I go back and wash my dick again because she can taste my pre-cum juices. That IS annoying. I dated a Russian girl for a while who as soon as I got out of the shower would pull my foreskin back and smell it and if it wasn't up to her standards would insist I scrub it again, a kind of penis OCD. Once I passed her test however she would reward me with awesome head.

This is has nothing to do with Russian women. It has to do with normal cleanliness that differentiates people who want to be clean vs. People who do not care about it. In German FKKs I have gotten many complements of being clean just by taking shower before the deed. My advise to you all is that take shower as much as you can and you will be rewarded more then you think you will.

H

[Borderland]

A recent adventure banging a Russian MILF freebie in Washington reminded me of one of the differentiating factors between Russian women and American women. Pre-coital showering. I guess it's a good thing to get clean before getting dirty, but it is always a bit distracting. I mean you are working your way through the foreplay and trying to tease off those first few bits of clothing, when she abruptly excuses herself and heads for the bathroom. But then when you hear the shower running you know you are home (as if you did not already when she came up to your room)!

I guess Russian women are expecting more orifices to be in play and a lot of mouth-to-body part contact, so cleanliness is key. It is not uncommon for them to have both pre & post-coital showers, like my MILF did. Happily by the second round we were on sufficiently intimate terms to shower together, which usually leads to a second round of getting dirty again.

Whereas with a western woman (or my wife at least) an evening shower means "don't touch me. I just got clean, I don't want to get all sticky and dirty again".

That's something I noticed of Russian women too, they like to get incredibly clean before and after sex, including brushing their teeth. They can take an age in there but in my experience it hasn't been about 'expecting more orifices to be in play' merely that's how they're brought up. They also often insist that you shower too and give your dick a good clean. A few times I've taken my shower and will be getting it on with her giving me a BJ only for the girl to insist I go back and wash my dick again because she can taste my pre-cum juices. That IS annoying. I dated a Russian girl for a while who as soon as I got out of the shower would pull my foreskin back and smell it and if it wasn't up to her standards would insist I scrub it again, a kind of penis OCD. Once I passed her test however she would reward me with awesome head.

[Gentleman Travel]

What happened Bez - did Jackson delete all your offensive remarks?
Can we expect more of these pithy, informative posts?

[Bez Bezarra]

[quote=timtimtimtim]

. it's a wonder that russian women don't throw themselves at any foreigner. i mean. most women here can't look forward to anything more than living in a cramped 3-room flat with their mothers and children.. quote]this sounds like the situation from 1990's to me.

i have never been to russia but am desperate to make it next year because what i hear is this:

russia is fast turning into a western society. moscow apparently resembling more something akin to tokyo or nyc.

the other day i talked to a young (18 year old) russian student here in the usa, and i asked him how he likes nyc. his answer was: "i'ts pretty cool, but in general, clubs ind the overall vibe in moscow is more fun, more hip, more interesting".

i was really surprised and decided to re-check my assumptions. so i wonder if someone on this board would mind sharing a little about the overall experience of being in russia, not necessarily just st. pete or moskow. maybe someone has been to more far-flung places like vladivostok or even blagoweschtschensk or novosibirsk, odessa. you know. the "real" russia.

i'm super-super-super curious about everything people write here. i love this forum. seriously, all you guys who take the time to report on your goings-on, it is utterly appreciated by us newbies.

it seems to me things really have chenged a lot from 2002. lots of posts from those years quote prices and experiences that i am almost certain are no longer true in 2010.

anyone feel like sharing some recent insights?

thanks in advcance.

stop the presses, i'm here to do the unforgivable, share info!

oh no! not that bez!!

yes yes, because timmy inadvertently revealed my home base of blagoshitstainunchuks. well, not exactly that oblast, but it sounded good.

but anyway, not about st pitr or moskva either, because they are the most western cities in the country. which is what most mongers want, so most go there, because its easier. but also expensive, for a tourist. for ex-pats, they get long term discounts and learn to live within the system.

but for you timmy, with your understandable urge to explore, in search of the still slightly unspoiled sweet slavic passion that only a girl from the real heart of the motherland has burning in her loins.....yes, you sort of guessed right that prices and experiences from 2002 are no longer true. depending on your decision between a hotel or apartment, between supermarkets and cooking or eating in restaurants, bars, and clubs, or drinking and strippers and saunas, you could budget $100 a day or $300 a day or $500 a day. you can be lazy and pay to have your food, drinks, and bed made for you, or you can do it yourself, and save 80% of your capital for generous sponsorships, which could make you popular and keep your schedule busy.

but guess what, its always changing, and that will always stay the same. its even different at different times of the year. in the summer, girls from the towns and small cities around the oblast capitals come in, and some come to make money. it could depend on what you are willing to invest, as to the degree of gfe you are given. the key, and the point, is to keep trying as many different approaches as you can, some will not be productive, and some will.

on the standard end of the agency biz, it seems that the old quickie 1 hour session that used to be about $80 is now back to $50, but that includes almost nothing but the "here's my hole, stick it in, and get it over with cause i gotta go they're waiting downstairs in the car for me and they're gonna beat the shit outa me of i don't hurry up and get the fuck out of here now" attitude.

or, on the other side of the coin, if you get dumb and lucky and meet someone that stands out from the drunken crowd of skanks, usually someone fairly new, you can pay those fuckers waiting down in the car to come back in a few hours, pour some wine for your new girlfriend , fill up your bathtub, light a candle, and then you can take it from there, i hope. and if you have enough style, there are some that you can help transform from quiet well behaved young ladies into depraved nymphos.

but what doesn't change, is the range of the variances in the girls. its wide. bad girls, nasty girls, nice girls, really nice girls, too nice girls, bitchy girls, and itchy girls. oh, and more importantly, greedy ones, and not so greedy. you get it? it means, that you can be sure you will find situations where your degree of success depends on your flexibility to go above and beyond. when the situation calls for that, you can buy an expensive ticket and ride the new roller-coaster. you know, the kind that drops 1000 feet vertical and then almost twists you in half at 120 mph, that when its over and you step off , you just let out a big breath of 'whew!", and you realize, that was amazing!

well, those girls are there. i never failed to meet and eat at least a few on every adventure.

the rest of the 'overall experience' that you are wondering about, is boring in comparison.

and i don't agree with climaxcow, that you need stalin's sack if you want to venture into gopnick territory. and though blaked had a point, that there probably was a short time when dyevs would think throwing themselves at a foreigner meant that their life would improve, i think they've now figured out, that foreigners are just not even around enough that it would ever make any difference anyway.

but, if you go back again, and again, and again, and some more after that, you can make a difference.

its really better explained by the new guy, saltypooperscooper, who did have the gopnicky steel balls to post not just one, but 3 fucking fotos of the greatest sales freak, alec the maniac, from the all time classic glenggr, espousing the mantra of close the deal because its fuck or walk, if you're god damn man enough.

check s7 sibair website, there's enough choices to choose, that you can fling yourself as far as you could possibly want to be flung. you don't need a guide book here for your 'overall experience', go out and create your own, its much more fun that way. ride a bus, ride the underground, sit in the park, blend in. make a lot of friends. you can learn how to play the game, its easy. all you need is balls.

the whole country of russia is not fast turning into a western society. moscow, tokyo, new york? those only represent what the biggest country's biggest city means. nobody goes to nyc or tokyo to find the nicest sweetest girls. in the non-tourist normal cities and towns, russia is still russia, and will still be russia for a long time, don't worry. and nothing could be better. it won't change, cause nobody's going there. its too big, and too far east.