Russian Women - Opinions and Advice

[Gentleman Travel]

A recent adventure banging a Russian MILF freebie in Washington reminded me of one of the differentiating factors between Russian women and American women - pre-coital showering. I guess it's a good thing to get clean before getting dirty, but it is always a bit distracting. I mean you are working your way through the foreplay and trying to tease off those first few bits of clothing, when she abruptly excuses herself and heads for the bathroom. But then when you hear the shower running you know you are home (as if you did not already when she came up to your room)!

I guess Russian women are expecting more orifices to be in play and a lot of mouth-to-body part contact, so cleanliness is key. It is not uncommon for them to have both pre & post-coital showers, like my MILF did. Happily by the second round we were on sufficiently intimate terms to shower together, which usually leads to a second round of getting dirty again...

Whereas with a western woman (or my wife at least) an evening shower means "don't touch me - I just got clean, I don't want to get all sticky and dirty again".

[Superparatrooper]

Stayed chatting with a woman until 2am ... ... and can't read her?

I met a 30 year old Russian on a beach in Thailand, we spent the evening talking until 2am until finally swapping email addresses and going our seperate ways.
1. She was sharing a hotel room with a Russian guy who she maintains was not her boyfriend.
2. Does not drink alcohol
3. Works in a corporate office as a beancounter
4. I could not see any emotions as to whether she was interested in anything more than chat.
I have no exposure to Russian women so I could not read the situation.
What's the deal here?

You either have a problem selling yourself or with closing the deal. Given the fact that you were able to bore her out of her mind until 2AM & she still gave you her email, I suspect the selling wasn’t too bad, but the closing must have sucked.


So, here is some advice from an expert on how to seal the deal:

“… You can't play in a man's game if You can't close them…

A-B-C. A-always, B-be, C-closing. Always be closing!
Always be closing!!

A-I-D-A. Attention, Interest, Decision, Action!
Attention -- do I have your attention?
Interest -- are you interested? I know you are because it's fuck or walk. You close or you hit the bricks!
Decision -- have you made your decision for Christ?!
and Action!

A-I-D-A! Get out there!!
Are you gonna take it? Are you man enough to take it?”

Your case analysis:
Attention- you certainly caught here attention & you started playing the game.

Interest- you got her interested in yourself, otherwise why the hell would the two of you be talking until 2AM

Decision- have you made your decision for Christ?! WELL, HAVE YOU?! Looks like you didn’t

Action- what were you waiting for- a permission from her daddy to kiss her? This isn’t Victorian England. She told you herself that the Russian guy she was staying with is not her boyfriend!


Jesus, a woman is on vacation at an “exotic” destination chatting with you until two in the morning and tells you that the dude she is here with isn’t here boyfriend- she couldn’t make it more obvious that SHE wants YOU to take her back to YOUR room (or a secluded part of the beach) and fuck her, even if she had that written in capital letters all over her forehead.

Oh, fuck me twice! I forgot the best part- she doesn't drink. That means she is telling you all of this while sober. Why would someone of opposite sex stay up late into the night talking to a complete stranger while their "friend/sugar daddy/significant other/companion/looser" was holed up in their hotel room??

Do you still have her email address? You wouldn’t mind sharing it? Maybe I could get her to accompany me to a bean counter convention when I’m in Москва early next year. Then I’ll be able to talk business with her After all money is the most powerful aphrodisiac, her being a bean counter- she knows that!

You ask what's the deal. Here's the deal: Give me her email and when I'm back from Moskva next year I'll send you here naked pics. Sounds fair?

[Borisut]

So what about the staid character?. Is it normal for Russian girls to sit there showing no emotions but all the time thinking "I wish he would take me home and fuck me senseless. "

Like I said I have no exposure to Russian culture, the way I read it was she was a girl that would take some working on and there wasn't going to be any fun that night, but you seem to think otherwise?

[Stravinsky]

Stayed chatting with a woman until 2am ... ... and can't read her?

I can just imagine the text messages she's sending to her friends back home, "Went on vacation, met a foreign man, stayed up until 2:00am with him waiting for him to fuck me and the guy never made a move. What's wrong with these foreign guys, anyway???"

[Pushkin13]

I met a 30 year old Russian on a beach in Thailand, we spent the evening talking until 2am until finally swapping email addresses and going our seperate ways.

1. She was sharing a hotel room with a Russian guy who she maintains was not her boyfriend.

2. Does not drink alcohol

3. Works in a corporate office as a beancounter

4. I could not see any emotions as to whether she was interested in anything more than chat.

I have no exposure to Russian women so I could not read the situation.

What's the deal here?

How old are you? 16?

Stayed chatting with a woman until 2am ... ... and can't read her?

What was your investment/return ratio?

Get real!!!

P13

[Borisut]

I met a 30 year old Russian on a beach in Thailand, we spent the evening talking until 2am until finally swapping email addresses and going our seperate ways.

1. She was sharing a hotel room with a Russian guy who she maintains was not her boyfriend.

2. Does not drink alcohol

3. Works in a corporate office as a beancounter

4. I could not see any emotions as to whether she was interested in anything more than chat.

I have no exposure to Russian women so I could not read the situation.

What's the deal here?

[Climaxnow]

. It's a wonder that Russian women don't throw themselves at ANY foreigner. I mean. Most women here can't look forward to anything more than living in a cramped 3-room flat with their mothers and children..

This sounds like the situation from 1990's to me.

I have never been to Russia but am desperate to make it next year because what I hear is this:

Russia is fast turning into a western society. Moscow apparently resembling more something akin to Tokyo or NYC.

The other day I talked to a young (18 year old) Russian student here in the USA, and I asked him how he likes NYC. His answer was: "I'ts pretty cool, but in general, clubs ind the overall vibe in Moscow is more fun, more hip, more interesting".

I was really surprised and decided to re-check my assumptions. So I wonder if someone on this board would mind sharing a little about the OVERALL EXPERIENCE of being in Russia, not necessarily just St. Pete or Moskow. Maybe someone has been to more far-flung places like Vladivostok or even Blagoweschtschensk or Novosibirsk, Odessa. You know. The "real" russia.

I'm super-super-super curious about everything people write here. I love this forum. Seriously, all you guys who take the time to report on your goings-on, it is utterly appreciated by us newbies.

It seems to me things really have chenged a lot from 2002. Lots of posts from those years quote prices and experiences that I am almost certain are no longer true in 2010.

Anyone feel like sharing some recent insights?

Thanks in advcance.

Yeah a hears my advice if you plan to venture into gopnick territory. Have balls of steal!

[Gergiev]

Odessa. You know. The "real" russia.

Or maybe even the "real" Ukraine

[Timtimtimtim]

[QUOTE=Blaked]. It's a wonder that Russian women don't throw themselves at ANY foreigner. I mean. Most women here can't look forward to anything more than living in a cramped 3-room flat with their mothers and children.. QUOTE]This sounds like the situation from 1990's to me.

I have never been to Russia but am desperate to make it next year because what I hear is this:

Russia is fast turning into a western society. Moscow apparently resembling more something akin to Tokyo or NYC.

The other day I talked to a young (18 year old) Russian student here in the USA, and I asked him how he likes NYC. His answer was: "I'ts pretty cool, but in general, clubs ind the overall vibe in Moscow is more fun, more hip, more interesting".

I was really surprised and decided to re-check my assumptions. So I wonder if someone on this board would mind sharing a little about the OVERALL EXPERIENCE of being in Russia, not necessarily just St. Pete or Moskow. Maybe someone has been to more far-flung places like Vladivostok or even Blagoweschtschensk or Novosibirsk, Odessa. You know. The "real" russia.

I'm super-super-super curious about everything people write here. I love this forum. Seriously, all you guys who take the time to report on your goings-on, it is utterly appreciated by us newbies.

It seems to me things really have chenged a lot from 2002. Lots of posts from those years quote prices and experiences that I am almost certain are no longer true in 2010.

Anyone feel like sharing some recent insights?

Thanks in advcance.

[Bez Bezarra]

I realized salons and brothels would have to wait until I spend $4000 dollars to find a girl to take me to a mausoleum.

We're all a bit different, aren't we.

[Gentleman Travel]

So this is what I changed. Instead of my cargo shorts and t-shirt, I grabbed some dress slacks and shoes and specifically targeted the girl at Starbucks. Everyday day I would show up in the morning at exactly the same time and made myself appear part of Corporate America. In her eyes, I was an employed man in Russia and not a tourist. Also, I took the ride through the Metro in the evening and yes I did get the looks.

As to the girl at starbucks, she will be escorting me to a museum tomorrow. So after spending almost $4000 dollars(flight hotel), I found a girl, who may actually like me, to take me to a mausoleum.

I guess you RTFF beforehand but did not absorb some of the lessons.
It has been repeated here many times that dressing well is a big factor for success.
So you could have saved yourself four days of frustration.
But hopefully the lesson is well-learned now and you are on your way to success with the Starbucks girl (and the subway girls).

Best wishes!

[Prosal]

Attractive women with no wedding bands.

As a parenthesis, Russian women wear their wedding ring on the RIGHT hand (still on the finger next to the "pinky").

[Pizdyets]

So this is what I changed. Instead of my cargo shorts and t-shirt, I grabbed some dress slacks and shoes and specifically targeted the girl at Starbucks.

Molodets! Yes, Moscovites are highly attuned to style. I know it's impossible in this weather, but try wearing a suit to a club some time. It's deadly effective - take my word for it. I'm literally pushing girls off of me.

Best of luck with the Starbucks dyev!

[Climaxnow]

As soon as I got to this town, I realized the use of salons and brothels would have to wait until I had some friends. Another problem is the nasty weather which has made the bars and nightclubs less than what I expected. My world in Moscow has been the Metro, Mcdonalds, and Starbucks.

When I was on the Metro later in the evening, I noticed all the 30 something devs going home. Attractive women with no wedding bands and probably not going home to a man. The surprising thing was I could not establish any eye contact whatsoever with these gals. I'm not Brad Pitt but I know that my looks are in the same league with these girls. Should of been some curiosity. Then there was the sweet and pretty girl behind the counter at Starbucks, again another girl that should have checked me out and did not. So after four days, it finally dawned on me, that I was just a foreigner passing through.

So this is what I changed. Instead of my cargo shorts and t-shirt, I grabbed some dress slacks and shoes and specifically targeted the girl at Starbucks. Everyday day I would show up in the morning at exactly the same time and made myself appear part of Corporate America. In her eyes, I was an employed man in Russia and not a tourist. Also, I took the ride through the Metro in the evening and yes I did get the looks.

As to the girl at starbucks, she will be escorting me to a museum tomorrow. So after spending almost $4000 dollars(flight hotel), I found a girl, who may actually like me, to take me to a mausoleum.

[Stravinsky]

I think a lot of it has to do with the age of the man, too. As I get older, I'm obviously still very attracted to the looks of 18-22 y.o. girls, but the whole silliness and immaturity really grates on me.

Bimbo stereotype? Maybe. But that's my experience.

I've been thinking the same thing myself, and stereotypes do exist for a reason. No matter how gorgeous that 19 y.o. might be, it's still tiresome having to explain everything to her. The irony is: you have this gorgeous teenage babe who is like a big gland, just walking around. But at the very moment in her life when she has the most potential, she has the least understanding of how to use it. It's a little like giving an atomic bomb to a chimpanzee.

Whereas... in 4 or 5 years, she will still have 90% of the potential, but 100% of the understanding. That's the kind of girl I want to meet.