Russian Women - Opinions and Advice

[Stravinsky]

Does marry the chick overseas qualify you to bring her back home (the US) ASAP?

Cruiser,
No, marrying a Russian girl in Russia does NOT automatically qualify her to return to the U.S.

It DOES qualify her to apply for a visa to the U.S. as an immigrant, based on the fact that she is the spouse of a U.S. citizen. But, you will still have to go through all the BS and paperwork, six months to a year. As your spouse, however, her approval is (theoretically) guaranteed.

Why don't you try a Fiance visa, can't remember the letter off-hand, I'm thinking it's an F? With a Fiance visa she can come to the U.S. for 90 days so that you can try her out. You will need to prove that the two of you have actually met, in person. And you can only apply for 1 at a time. After the 3rd or 4th, the Embassy might start to doubt your sincerity.

[Doctor_Skank]

Doc,

If I were you, I'd gather up all the knives in the kitchen now, and put them away for safe keeping.

I'm a slow learner.

Actually this is a pic of a different girl... also totally different character than the wind-up-doll. Just wants to stay in and fuck. I can deal with that.

[Cruiser D]

I'm never one for second hand info but...

Does marry the chick overseas qualify you to bring her back home (the US) ASAP?

I figure the easiest way to get away from all the US Gov BS - endless questions and forms for both you and her (which gotten worst under W) is to just marry the girl in her homeland.

Egads, what am I saying?

A friend of mine (Brotha) married an attractive Swedish woman (Brunette/Ice Blue Eyes) in Sweden, got the paperwork done locally and within 6 months of tying up loose ends she's now a US resident of Boston, MA

Try that with EE women, no way fast track that process...

[Stravinsky]

Even though we both know that it doesn't have a future since she has often stated that at 23 she needs to find a husband and I've told her I am not it

Doc,

There is the reality of what we are told, and the reality of what we believe. It can be difficult sometimes to sort them out. Maybe you told her that you won't cum in her mouth, do you think she believes that?

If you think she's holding back now, imagine what the sex will be like when she finally does become smitten? Боже мой (my God)! If I were you, I'd gather up all the knives in the kitchen now, and put them away for safe keeping.

Either that, or you could always get married....

[Jake993]

That'll make the inevitable break up that much harder. One of the hazards of this game. It can rough on the psyche if one is not careful.

I think David Bowie said it best.... "putting out the fire with ....<da da da> .....gas-o-line!!!!!!"

[Doctor_Skank]

I agree with Jake, I'm not sure the "b" word has that much effect on Russian women. They expect it, and as we all know... men only have 1 thing on their mind, right? Despite their cynical exterior, however, Russian women are actually extremely fragile and delicate. But you can't get at them with money and power. Somehow, you have to touch their Русская Душа (Russian Soul).

So, yes, use the "b" word as much as you want, shower her with gifts and take her out on the town, that is the safest approach. Just be careful not to touch her Russkaya Dushah unless you are absolutely serious about her. )

I've got a bit of a mystery girl on tap tonight. We've fucked several times already, but still there is nothing automatic about it. Most girls once you've had them will fuck you every time you meet. Not her.

I like to call her a "wind-up doll". I have to entertain her before she'll put out. Nothing terribly expensive, just dinner and dancing.. but still more than I am used to with the regulars who are often happy staying in. Normally I wouldn't put so much effort into a girl, but the sex is out of this world. Great body, perfect sensual blowjobs and loud, grunting and moaning her-ankles-by-her-ears sex.

Maybe she is just a good player. She knows how to make herself more desirable.

Even though we both know that it doesn't have a future since she has often stated that at 23 she needs to find a husband and I've told her I am not it, I still honestly have to ask myself how far I want to push it. What will I do with her if she suddenly does crack and really become smitten, her russkaya dusha having been touched? That'll make the inevitable break up that much harder.

One of the hazards of this game. It can be rough on the psyche if one is not careful. I shudder to think of what we put these girls through sometimes.

[Stravinsky]

It's true, I have always admired the detached attitude that Russian men have towards their women and we should all be grateful to them for not spoiling them. I guess everything is relative; when you live in a country full of gorgeous women, it takes a lot to impress. Snow is snow, as far as I'm concerned, but the Chukchi can distinguish between a dozen or more different varieties. At some point, Russian men begin to distinguish between different levels of gorgeousness (is that a word?). Wouldn't we all like to live a life like that. (sigh)

I agree with Jake, I'm not sure the "b" word has that much effect on Russian women. They expect it, and as we all know... men only have 1 thing on their mind, right? Despite their cynical exterior, however, Russian women are actually extremely fragile and delicate. But you can't get at them with money and power. Somehow, you have to touch their Русская Душа (Russian Soul).

The two qualities that Russian women admire most in a man are kindness and generosity, probably because these are the qualities that are most lacking in Russian men. But this is not the kindness of, "I will let you shine my shoes", or the generosity of, "I have a billion Euros, so I can pay you 1,000 to sit at a table in your nightclub".

Russian woman have a wonderful way of separating sex from emotion. Give her the keys to a new Beemer and she will squeal with delight and give you a peck on the cheek and, after she returns from her joy ride, most likely, fuck your brains out, because she understands that payment is expected. But, if you stop to give the flower girl an extra 200r and present her with a fresh bouquet of vasil'ki, she will glow like the sunrise of a Siberian dawn. From that point on, she better not catch you fucking anyone else.

And that gets back to the concept of the Russkaya Dushah. Because no matter how much money or power may be offered to her, for a Russian woman, the ultimate goal of life is the satisfaction of the soul.

So, yes, use the "b" word as much as you want, shower her with gifts and take her out on the town, that is the safest approach. Just be careful not to touch her Russkaya Dushah unless you are absolutely serious about her. Because as Jake has pointed out, an enraged slavic female is like a force of nature. It cannot be stopped, it cannot be controlled or even directed, all you can do is find a safe refuge and wait until the storm passes.

But, it's a hell of a ride!

[Explorer69]

my email friend recnently decided that she wants to come to us to meet me but, at the last moment, was told that she had to produce $2200 to demonstrate to immigration that she had sufficient funds for her trip, and would not become a burden on either government by being stranded in the us.

the us embassy website says that there is no such requirement, while the us dept. of homeland security website does say that russian tourists will be asked to produce proof of sufficient cash resources.

i don't want to accuse my russian hottie of a scam. any advice from those of you with experience would be very helpful!

this one of the most frequent scam procedures!

[Hecker]

grapelli,

just call the us embassy in moscow and ask what the requirements are in these cases.for example maybe they need documents from your side she never told you about.

[Guido88]

my email friend recnently decided that she wants to come to us to meet me but, at the last moment, was told that she had to produce $2200 to demonstrate to immigration that she had sufficient funds for her trip, and would not become a burden on either government by being stranded in the us.

the us embassy website says that there is no such requirement, while the us dept. of homeland security website does say that russian tourists will be asked to produce proof of sufficient cash resources.

i don't want to accuse my russian hottie of a scam. any advice from those of you with experience would be very helpful!

grapelli

e-mail friend?

she is scamming you. give her the $2,200 and that’s the last you will see of the dev or your money. imho

next thing you will hear is her computer is broken or granny is sick and needs medicine.

there is no set dollar amount that is mandatory to allow the devs to visit the usa.

the consulate looks for ownership of an apartment or house, child, long-term job with verifiable income and a bank account.

also there will be an interview where the consulate will do their best to ask trick questions and find a reason to disqualify her.

the worst thing she can say is she is visiting a friend in the usa.

better she has always wanted to visit hollywood ect….

this advice given to me from a friend in piter allowed me to bring a dev to the states for a few weeks. key thing is i already knew her, not an e-mail friend.

most that apply with out fitting the criteria will not be given visas. do not give her cash up front.

if you end up buying her a plane ticket either use your air miles or buy the ticket with your credit card so it cannot be refunded in cash.

aside from being so cute the devs are both clever and cunning. your dick is not the only thing they are milking.

best thing is to fly there and poke her. while you are there poke another 20 devs for good measure.

thats worth $2,200

guido88

[Grapelli]

Many thanks for the replies! The girl in question is very beautiful, but looking for a husband, while I'm more interested in an audition. Meanwhile, I'm getting tearful emails (if you can imagine) about how much she wants to come here, but now she's stranded in Moscow.

[DJ FourMoney]

my email friend recnently decided that she wants to come to us to meet me but, at the last moment, was told that she had to produce $2200 to demonstrate to immigration that she had sufficient funds for her trip, and would not become a burden on either government by being stranded in the us.

the us embassy website says that there is no such requirement, while the us dept. of homeland security website does say that russian tourists will be asked to produce proof of sufficient cash resources.

i don't want to accuse my russian hottie of a scam. any advice from those of you with experience would be very helpful!

dude, go there instead. if she's serious about you, you can work out all the vista/ins bs later. plan on visiting her at least twice however, as it takes 10-11 months (if no mistakes have been found) to get green card status for russians.

this is why i still like my western european option. its pretty much a "snap" process for eu members to get permits into the us. in fact you can get around it all together and while on a visit you can marry her and complete the process state side but it takes longer to get done, man our red tape is incredible...

a friend of mine (brotha) married an attractive swedish woman (brunette/ice blue eyes) in sweden, got the paperwork done locally and within 6 months of tying up loose ends she's now a us resident of boston, ma

try that with ee women, no way fast track that process...

[Stravinsky]

grapelli,

every foreign citizen applying for a visa to visit the u.s. must prove to the satisfaction of the consular officer at the embassy where they apply that they intend to return to their country. the decision on whether or not to grant a visa rests solely within the discretion the consular officer, who, may require that the intending applicant provide proof of employment in their country, permanent assets such as real estate, or family members living with them in their country as proof that they will return. a young russian woman applying for a visa to the u.s. is going to get a lot of scrutiny and it's not unusual for the embassy to require that she provide proof that she has the financial assets to pay for her trip.

so, she could very well be telling you the truth or, she could be trying to pull a scam on you. or both.

just how badly do you want to ball this babe anyway?

[Hecker]

I recently wrote a regular girlfriend that she was something like "super, wonderful, beautiful, loving, sexy, beautiful, passionate, fun, adventurous and wild." Moments later I got back a big mail that 'no one had ever told her such words and she was crying with joy'.

Huh?

I was a bit surprised, as she is the kind of girl I'd expect gets compliments all the time. At the same time, I have often heard from girls that Russian men are terrible about making compliments, preferring to "not spoil" their girls. I am certain there is some cultural value to what they are saying long-term, but it does open the door for us free-tongued foreigners.

Nonetheless, going too early with the "you are beautiful" could come off cheap and slimy.

What are your guys thoughts on using the "b" word, and subsequent compliments?

1) when should it be used?

2) what immediate effect does it have? (positive and negative)

3) what long-term effects can it have? (positive and negative)

Of course I realise there is no standard recipe for everything, but it is worth some thought and discussion in my opinion, as it does get us thinking about what they're thinking and feeling.

Thoughts fellas?

I agree with Russians.I don't compliment them often.And I never say ''I love you'' although they press for it.

[Grapelli]

My email friend recnently decided that she wants to come to US to meet me but, at the last moment, was told that she had to produce $2200 to demonstrate to immigration that she had sufficient funds for her trip, and would not become a burden on either government by being stranded in the US.

The US Embassy website says that there is no such requirement, while the US Dept. Of Homeland Security website does say that Russian tourists will be asked to produce proof of sufficient cash resources.

I don't want to accuse my Russian hottie of a scam. Any advice from those of you with experience would be very helpful!