Tijuana Escort Reports

[TJ2015]

This is what I don't understand I fell for the same BS with a AB girl.

Do they really think they can do this forever and live happily ever after. Why a bar girl cannot get an a serious relation with a nice guy without asking for money?

Why they need so much money is a pimp boyfriend in their lives which they always denied when you ask them. I just can't understand why they don't want a better life for them.

I Honestly think they think we are not in love with the person only sex and there's also that no one here is ready to sale the house pack and move to Mexico to live with your girlfriend bar girl.

They know it and you know it is just a fantasy that wouldn't work in the long term. Maybe if you move to Mexico she can take you seriously.

When I fell for this girl I asked her if she was ready to leave AB or any other sex job and she told me and swear for Jesus that she will be my girlfriend and we could see each other once a week until she can cross the border to live with me.

She had a little 3 yrs old boy and I told her no problem and she was happy to hear that.

When I was starting to believe in her and her love for me blaha blah she also was contacting me thru Whatsup and asking me for money for her school classes and for other things.

Then I told her I don't wire money that she will get money when I go see her next week.

She didn't like my answer and that's when all hell broke loose. She stopped replying whatsupp and when I called her she told me she needed money and that I didn't care for her. That's when I realize I was an idiot and she was the biggest liar on the planet. So I thought I learned my lesson but I saw her last week in the bar and she was looking at me wile sitting with this ficha buyer guy.

WTF she almost got me again. Lucky me she was with that guy but when the guy went to the restroom she came running to my table and told me she missed me and wanted to be nice with me again and that she was sorry, "YES" I'm too soft and stupid I believed her again and I waited for her in the hotel stairs next to AB but she never showed up and again I was feeling like a complete fool all over again. The worst part is I am now back home but I still have her number. That same day I went with other AB girl but I still cannot get my fav girl off my mind she's worse than cocaine. !

Well said amigo.

[Member #4450]

The most important thing that ItsXJustXJizz wrote is "You have to remember at the end of the day she's a prostitute."

If ItsXJustXJizz initially hired her as an escort, she remains an escort until both agree the relationship changed from professional to personal. Not making a clear transition is poor form. Making the transition is a sign of being a PLM. He is sometimes treating her as a girlfriend and other times treating her as a prostitute, whichever suits his goal at the moment.

"Predator" is a bit extreme, but he was cheap and she wasted her time with Jizz. Yes, cheap, despite what ItsXJustXJizz wrote. This is just one example of why many girls demand advanced payment.

Free pussy is actually the most expensive pussy. You pay for it one way or another.

This is what I don't understand I fell for the same BS with a AB girl.

Do they really think they can do this forever and live happily ever after. Why a bar girl cannot get an a serious relation with a nice guy without asking for money?

Why they need so much money is a pimp boyfriend in their lives which they always denied when you ask them. I just can't understand why they don't want a better life for them.

I Honestly think they think we are not in love with the person only sex and there's also that no one here is ready to sale the house pack and move to Mexico to live with your girlfriend bar girl.

They know it and you know it is just a fantasy that wouldn't work in the long term. Maybe if you move to Mexico she can take you seriously.

When I fell for this girl I asked her if she was ready to leave AB or any other sex job and she told me and swear for Jesus that she will be my girlfriend and we could see each other once a week until she can cross the border to live with me.

She had a little 3 yrs old boy and I told her no problem and she was happy to hear that.

When I was starting to believe in her and her love for me blaha blah she also was contacting me thru Whatsup and asking me for money for her school classes and for other things.

Then I told her I don't wire money that she will get money when I go see her next week.

She didn't like my answer and that's when all hell broke loose. She stopped replying whatsupp and when I called her she told me she needed money and that I didn't care for her. That's when I realize I was an idiot and she was the biggest liar on the planet. So I thought I learned my lesson but I saw her last week in the bar and she was looking at me wile sitting with this ficha buyer guy.

WTF she almost got me again. Lucky me she was with that guy but when the guy went to the restroom she came running to my table and told me she missed me and wanted to be nice with me again and that she was sorry, "YES" I'm too soft and stupid I believed her again and I waited for her in the hotel stairs next to AB but she never showed up and again I was feeling like a complete fool all over again. The worst part is I am now back home but I still have her number. That same day I went with other AB girl but I still cannot get my fav girl off my mind she's worse than cocaine. !

[HorseTrader]

Well I had this chica from Ensenada that I met from a escort agency in Tijuana, I would go to Ensenada frequently to see her. I seen her probably for about 2 months then that's when she would ask me for money every time we talked.

Yeah she was OK with it, I would pay for everything when we went out. We would chill for 2 or 3 days and I would never give her a dime, aside from possibly some taxi fare. But like I said after a few months then she wanted me to send her money, so I stopped talking to her.

You have to remember at the end of the day she's a prostitute. But they have to have their fun outside of work, and I refuse to pay anything outside of what partying or food, at the most maybe a cheap dress or some knock-off jewelry. And that doesn't make me cheap.

You are spending a weekend with a person who makes their living having sex.

The most important thing that ItsXJustXJizz wrote is "You have to remember at the end of the day she's a prostitute."

If ItsXJustXJizz initially hired her as an escort, she remains an escort until both agree the relationship changed from professional to personal. Not making a clear transition is poor form. Making the transition is a sign of being a PLM. He is sometimes treating her as a girlfriend and other times treating her as a prostitute, whichever suits his goal at the moment.

"Predator" is a bit extreme, but he was cheap and she wasted her time with Jizz. Yes, cheap, despite what ItsXJustXJizz wrote. This is just one example of why many girls demand advanced payment.

Free pussy is actually the most expensive pussy. You pay for it one way or another.

[KC Questor]

If the girl is a full time puta, she surely expects to be compensated for time spent with you. On the other hand, lots of women are casual or part-time sex workers. For them, spending time with you may be a gamble. She could be betting that you will fall in love, marry her, and take her away to America. In this case, paying her for her time might not be as expected.

[ClamSlammer]

I would go so far and label a person who goes out of his (or her) way to have relationships with working girls knowing they will eventually expect something in return (reciprocity) and then dumps them when they finally do ask for it, that makes the person a predator in my book.

Are you serious? "Predator? Taking advantage of the fragile mental state of the helpless Tijuana puta?

[Phordphan]

I think you are missing the point. They are not using you. They are offering their companionship and expect a payment. That is why they are working in a *****house. It's not being cheap, it's much worse than that. Relationships are all based on reciprocity. It's the foundation of relationships. In some it's protection, a roof over their head, and in others there are cash gifts. I would go so far and label a person who goes out of his (or her) way to have relationships with working girls knowing they will eventually expect something in return (reciprocity) and then dumps them when they finally do ask for it, that makes the person a predator in my book. Did you tell them the rules you were playing by up front? I do not see how they are necessarily using you when you are clearly getting everything you want and shafting them in the end.

You wrote: "I was just saying that I'm not going to give her money to pay rent bills or whatever". You are telling us that- but I bet if you told her this before the first time you get that freebie, you wouldn't get that freebie. But that's not the game you play, now is it?

Very well said, Mr. Blue. I think this speaks to a fundamental misunderstanding, by gringos, of these types of societies.

Mexico has a very small middle class. Society evolved, starting with rich conquerors and poor Indians. Since Indians would always be Indians, there was no reason to try for much advancement (you'll never be a Spaniard), and you wind up with a semi-feudal society, for lack of a better term. Parallels can be drawn with other societies who have / had a king. Royalty and subjects. Thailand is a great example.

The point is that there is a strong feeling of noblesse oblige in these societies. It's up to the fabulously rich to "look out for" the poor peasant. In the USA, often if the boss has a birthday the staff will pitch in and buy him a present or a cake. In Thailand, for instance, on the boss' birthday HE buys everybody gifts. He's the "ruler" looking out for his "subjects. " Yes, it's an oversimplification, but you get the idea.

Now on to the case at hand. First, whether you're a bar girl or consultant, all you have to sell is your time. If somebody consumes your time without payment, barring any up-front, agreed-upon arrangement, that person is robbing you. Second, bearing in mind #1 above, it's not culturally inappropriate to ask your fabulously wealthy "patron" for some living expenses.

Now there is a fine line between helping and being taken for a ride. That's not necessarily the fault of the girl, so much as the fault of the gringo who won't learn a bit about the culture. And we're dealing far more with "peasant culture" than with "middle-class culture" when dealing with these girls.

This goes to another interesting idiosyncrasy of some guys, and that's trying to turn regular girls into hookers and hookers into regular girls. This case is a good example. I see guys, especially in Thailand, who will hook up with some office girl or other "normal" person, then, after a roll in the hay, insist they take money for it, despite them not asking, nor ever discussing payment. WTF? Then, on the other hand, you see the guys we're talking about now, who do their best to score "freebies" off of hookers. (Hey, she wasn't on the clock) Sometimes these are two different types of guys, sometimes both traits are present in the same person. I find it odd.

Anyway, the overarching point of this ramble is that if you want a relationship (and spending several days with one of these girls is a "relationship") with any girl, hooker or civvie, where she is far below you in earning potential, and comes from one of these "semi-feudal" societies, you should expect to step up and do your part. That doesn't include being a walking ATM for every relative to crawl out of the woodwork, but you can't forget noblesse oblige. If that's a problem for guys, then stick with Western women. You won't have these problems, but you'll have an entirely different set. Pick your poison.

[CumberlandBlue]

I wasn't bragging, I was just saying that I'm not going to give her money to pay rent bills or whatever. She isn't my girlfriend she is a prostitute who wants to spend time with me outside of the scope of her job. Like I said, if I want to pay her bills ill just pay her for sex. Its cut and dry, its not that I'm cheap, I'm just not looking for a relationship with a working girl. I could pay a non working girls bills and get the same type of relationship. And yes costume jewelry and cheap dresses is all she's getting if she's in a non working environment, because your just a dollar sign to her and that's it. Ill use them just like they are using me, but there's no need to call me cheap just because you would rather pay her bills and I wouldn't.

I think you are missing the point. They are not using you. They are offering their companionship and expect a payment. That is why they are working in a *****house. It's not being cheap, it's much worse than that. Relationships are all based on reciprocity. It's the foundation of relationships. In some it's protection, a roof over their head, and in others there are cash gifts. I would go so far and label a person who goes out of his (or her) way to have relationships with working girls knowing they will eventually expect something in return (reciprocity) and then dumps them when they finally do ask for it, that makes the person a predator in my book. Did you tell them the rules you were playing by up front? I do not see how they are necessarily using you when you are clearly getting everything you want and shafting them in the end.

You wrote: "I was just saying that I'm not going to give her money to pay rent bills or whatever". You are telling us that- but I bet if you told her this before the first time you get that freebie, you wouldn't get that freebie. But that's not the game you play, now is it?

[ScatManDoo]

I have had a few situations where I seen chicas outside of their work, but to be honest usually what happens is you see them a few times, then it leads to them asking for money or western unions if you live in the states. At that point I consider it over and I take the fun we had as distant memories.

The chica, without doubt, would feel stiffed in this situation. And not stiffed in a good way.

[Captain Solo]

Regarding compensation, the line is very blurry between the pros and non pros in Mexico.

I know a bro who would buy fichas for HK girls but insists on not paying for sex. A few HK and Las Chevelas putas would date and give him and sex without asking for money, playing games for long-term relationships, even marriages. His civie dates all asked for money, who upset him greatly. I suggested to him that due to the huge disparity between his wage and theirs, he should compensate them for their time, at least at US' minimum wage level, perhaps $10 per hour.

But I have gone on dates and had sex with Mexican civie girls, business managers and a school teacher, who at the end clearly expected money. One spoke English well, was asking me for money before we split: " How much was that worth to you?

In my experience, most American girls and women would also aim to take money or gain benefits from men they date, discreetly or blatantly, IE. Friends with benefits. I don't know many US women who date and fuck guys without expecting something in return, money, gifts, vacations, promotions etc.

It's just human nature to exchange what they have for what they want. Men naturally want sex; women want money and material things. Pro and non pro women anywhere in the world will try every way to suck men dry. When your money dries up, you can forget about fucking women, pros or non pros.

[ItsXJustXJizz]

SS was just asking if the OP would feel differently if said lady was a school teacher, I. E. Regular job, and was asking for financial help. Would the OP help or not, and what's the difference?

OP, not SS, was bragging that he spends multiple days with the ladies, splurges on a piece of cheap costume jewelry or a cheap dress, won't pay them anything (because there is a man at home? WTF?) and doesn't consider himself cheap. Whatever, it takes all kinds.

I wasn't bragging, I was just saying that I'm not going to give her money to pay rent bills or whatever. She isn't my girlfriend she is a prostitute who wants to spend time with me outside of the scope of her job. Like I said, if I want to pay her bills ill just pay her for sex. Its cut and dry, its not that I'm cheap, I'm just not looking for a relationship with a working girl. I could pay a non working girls bills and get the same type of relationship. And yes costume jewelry and cheap dresses is all she's getting if she's in a non working environment, because your just a dollar sign to her and that's it. Ill use them just like they are using me, but theres no need to call me cheap just because you would rather pay her bills and I wouldn't.

[Phordphan]

You are spending a weekend with a person who makes their living having sex. She is spending several days with you, and she is asking you to pay her, albeit politely. I am not sure why a teacher comes into play here. Unless the teacher has a side job selling her body for money. If said teacher asked you for money,. Then she has a side job.

SS was just asking if the OP would feel differently if said lady was a school teacher, I. E. Regular job, and was asking for financial help. Would the OP help or not, and what's the difference?

OP, not SS, was bragging that he spends multiple days with the ladies, splurges on a piece of cheap costume jewelry or a cheap dress, won't pay them anything (because there is a man at home? WTF?) and doesn't consider himself cheap. Whatever, it takes all kinds.

[CumberlandBlue]

If you where hanging out in a bar. You meet this hot chick. She was divorced, had a couple of kids, and she was a school teacher. As we know, school teachers do not make much money. She was also good in bed. You started spending time with her. Etc.

On the other hand.

If you where hanging out in a bar. You meet this hot chick. She was divorced, had a couple of kids, and she was a sex worker. As we know, sex workers do not make much money. She was also good in bed. You started spending time with her. Etc.

How would you feel about giving the school teacher a helping hand if she was banging you hard?

You are spending a weekend with a person who makes their living having sex. She is spending several days with you, and she is asking you to pay her, albeit politely. I am not sure why a teacher comes into play here. Unless the teacher has a side job selling her body for money. If said teacher asked you for money,. Then she has a side job.

[ScatManDoo]

If you where hanging out in a bar. You meet this hot chick. She was divorced, had a couple of kids, and she was a sex worker. As we know, sex workers do not make much money.

You are sounding like a clueless rookie.

If I was coming down to Mexico and spending 2 to 3 days in a row with a sex worker (who was asking me for money), I would understand the basis of the relationship.

[SaltShaker]

Maybe she was trying to support her children by spending time with you?

If you where hanging out in a bar. You meet this hot chick. She was divorced, had a couple of kids, and she was a school teacher. As we know, school teachers do not make much money. She was also good in bed. You started spending time with her. Etc.

On the other hand.

If you where hanging out in a bar. You meet this hot chick. She was divorced, had a couple of kids, and she was a sex worker. As we know, sex workers do not make much money. She was also good in bed. You started spending time with her. Etc.

How would you feel about giving the school teacher a helping hand if she was banging you hard?

[ScatManDoo]

Well I had this chica from Ensenada that I met from a escort agency in Tijuana, I would go to Ensenada frequently to see her. I seen her probably for about 2 months then that's when she would ask me for money every time we talked. First it was she was robbed, then her mom was sick and needed to go to the hospital, then it was she needed money for a visa so she could see me. In most cases this is how it will end up, 4 f's my friend-find them, friend them, fuck them, forget them.

Maybe she was trying to support her children by spending time with you?

I'm not paying rent, utilities or groceries or anything like that for a puta. If I'm hanging out with her for a few days, its not like I'm not paying for the food or partying, but as far as giving her money for household bills, that's crazy because most likely she has a man or family at home looking after her children and your supporting them not her. You have to remember at the end of the day she's a prostitute. But they have to have their fun outside of work, and I refuse to pay anything outside of what partying or food, at the most maybe a cheap dress or some knock-off jewelry. And that doesn't make me cheap.