Cuba Travel Restrictions

[PincheCabron]

The Bill has been introduced. It's from 2 dems and 1 republican the same ones who've tried to get it passed before. Look it up on any news search for cuba. Nothing to do with cuban americans at all but everything to do with $$$.

I think your confusing Obama's promise to lift travel restrictions for "Cuban-Americans" with all Americans. Even though Cuban Americans will be allowed to travel as often as they want in the near future, they still fall under the embargo and need to receive permission from the Treasury Department each time.

For Americans to travel freely to Cuba requires an act of Congress to either amend the embargo or the enforcement rules and as you know this is not something that will happen over night. I'm sure there will be plenty of news coverage prior to any ammendment even being voted on. However it is true that it has been added to bills in the past and taken out before finalization. This could happen again in the "months" to come and will have more chance of making it through with Obama. Although personally I'm not looking forward to seeing Cuba flooded with Americans. The lack of Americans is one of its best features.

[Kalifornication]

In fact, an act of congress re the lifting of the travel restriction is not necessary. Presidents have eased travel restrictions in the past (to wit, Clinton) and others have tightened the restriction (e.g., Georgy boy).

All that is needed is an executive order.

I agree that the embargo will follow later, but not much later.

Let's remember, Obama is a constitutional scholar. Something George boy is not. The problem with allowing Cuban Americans to travel while restricting non-Cuban Americans from freely traveling raised serious constitutional issues, to wit, EQUAL PROTECTION (14th Amendement). Obama, by lifting the travel restriction for all, resolves this constitutional conflict.

This shit is over. Thank heaven.

I think your confusing Obama's promise to lift travel restrictions for "Cuban-Americans" with all Americans. Even though Cuban Americans will be allowed to travel as often as they want in the near future, they still fall under the embargo and need to receive permission from the Treasury Department each time.

For Americans to travel freely to Cuba requires an act of Congress to either amend the embargo or the enforcement rules and as you know this is not something that will happen over night. I'm sure there will be plenty of news coverage prior to any ammendment even being voted on. However it is true that it has been added to bills in the past and taken out before finalization. This could happen again in the "months" to come and will have more chance of making it through with Obama. Although personally I'm not looking forward to seeing Cuba flooded with Americans. The lack of Americans is one of its best features.

[BeersTerry]

It will be interesting how much interest the American tourist has in Cuba, given the lack of services.

[El Chico]

Crossed the border from USA to Canada. Stopped and searched by immigration. They discovered that I was in Cuba but no problem as usual as I carried no contrband.

HOWEVER, ... agent took me to the side and said: "listen, ... it all does not matter any more, .... we have received the memo and the travel restriction for all USA persons will be lifted in from 1-2 weeks. Is the party over? I think not, but maybe.

I think your confusing Obama's promise to lift travel restrictions for "Cuban-Americans" with all Americans. Even though Cuban Americans will be allowed to travel as often as they want in the near future, they still fall under the embargo and need to receive permission from the Treasury Department each time.

For Americans to travel freely to Cuba requires an act of Congress to either amend the embargo or the enforcement rules and as you know this is not something that will happen over night. I'm sure there will be plenty of news coverage prior to any ammendment even being voted on. However it is true that it has been added to bills in the past and taken out before finalization. This could happen again in the "months" to come and will have more chance of making it through with Obama. Although personally I'm not looking forward to seeing Cuba flooded with Americans. The lack of Americans is one of its best features.

[PincheCabron]

I think that agent may be on the mark as I've read that a new bill was introduced in congress which includes the provision to remove the travel ban. They've tried this tactic before and it passed through both the congress and senate but Dubya threatened to veto the bill if the provision wasn't removed. Obama hasn't cowtowed to the miami old guard (too much) so this could go smoothly. Lifting the embargo is still years away and I think handing back guantanamo to cuba will be the prelude. The tourist gringos can have the pros and varadero. Two things I've managed to stay away from so far anyway.

I doubt if Cuba is worse off than most, ... in fact, I'd argue, given their socialism, that they are better off then most, ... but that issue is for another discussion.

As for the 20% charge on american currecny, in my belief, that too will end shortly. If the USA is willing to lift the travel restriction, Cuba will, in my small opinion, remove the 10% penalty. This is nothing more than a prelude to the real issue which will be a discussion re the normalization of US/Cuban relations. This is no small gesture to Cuba given the fact that every American tourist that will hit the ground will sepend from $1000-$2000 US. The US wants to appease the Miami mafia, that will amount to a negotiation of compensation for property nationalized post 1959. Since the Cubans will have more capital given the lifting of the travel restrictions, I am certain they will negotiate a settlement for say, $.40 on the dollar.

Once this issue is resolved, the blocade falls.

This again, is just my small opinion.

[Digital Curry]

Darenesq is a standup guy. He had the pleasure of seeing me tear it up. I finally speak fluent spanish and my game has never been better.

There were so many hotties going at the same time my head nearly spun off.

But the party is definately over. Used to be you didn't need spanish, you didn't need a car, nor nice clothes. In 2000 two hand gestures were all that were necessary. "Come here" "Let's fuck. "

Last three years was the after party.

Next two years is cleaning up the empty bottles and puke.

After that is Cuba will be as good as suburban New Jersey.

We all fucked it up by paying more than $5 per girl. You'll should've been eco-tourists. Instead you trashed Cuba over paying. The same as dumping garbage in Yosemite.

Americans will come. Prices for casas and girls will go thru the roof. Plus soon Helm-Burton Act will be gone and old chevys will become ford escorts.

Good looking cuban guys will have new suzuki motos and Cubanas won't give you the time of day.

Don't think girls now empowered won't abuse their power and become American Bitches.

If you haven't been there before, don't bother. And if you don't have game forget-about-it.

I wish you all could've seen me in my glory, last Wednesday, Feb 4, 2009. The Aristotlean peak of Mongering.

Ciao Piscow!

I doubt if Cuba is worse off than most, ... in fact, I'd argue, given their socialism, that they are better off then most, ... but that issue is for another discussion.

As for the 20% charge on american currecny, in my belief, that too will end shortly. If the USA is willing to lift the travel restriction, Cuba will, in my small opinion, remove the 10% penalty. This is nothing more than a prelude to the real issue which will be a discussion re the normalization of US/Cuban relations. This is no small gesture to Cuba given the fact that every American tourist that will hit the ground will sepend from $1000-$2000 US. The US wants to appease the Miami mafia, that will amount to a negotiation of compensation for property nationalized post 1959. Since the Cubans will have more capital given the lifting of the travel restrictions, I am certain they will negotiate a settlement for say, $.40 on the dollar.

Once this issue is resolved, the blocade falls.

This again, is just my small opinion.

[Digital Curry]

Darenesq is a standup guy. He had the pleasure of seeing me tear it up. I finally speak fluent spanish and my game has never been better.

There were so many hotties going at the same time my head nearly spun off.

But the party is definately over. Used to be you didn't need spanish, you didn't need a car, nor nice clothes. In 2000 two hand gestures were all that were necessary. "Come here" "Let's fuck. "

Last three years was the after party.

Next two years is cleaning up the empty bottles and puke.

After that is Cuba will be as good as suburban New Jersey.

We all fucked it up by paying more than $5 per girl. You'll should've been eco-tourists. Instead you trashed Cuba over paying. The same as dumping garbage in Yosemite.

Americans will come. Prices for casas and girls will go thru the roof. Plus soon Helm-Burton Act will be gone and old chevys will become ford escorts.

Good looking cuban guys will have new suzuki motos and Cubanas won't give you the time of day.

Don't think girls now empowered won't abuse their power and become American Bitches.

If you haven't been there before, don't bother. And if you don't have game forget-about-it.

I wish you all could've seen me in my glory, last Wednesday, Feb 4, 2009. The Aristotlean peak of Mongering.

Ciao Piscow!

I doubt if Cuba is worse off than most, ... in fact, I'd argue, given their socialism, that they are better off then most, ... but that issue is for another discussion.

As for the 20% charge on american currecny, in my belief, that too will end shortly. If the USA is willing to lift the travel restriction, Cuba will, in my small opinion, remove the 10% penalty. This is nothing more than a prelude to the real issue which will be a discussion re the normalization of US/Cuban relations. This is no small gesture to Cuba given the fact that every American tourist that will hit the ground will sepend from $1000-$2000 US. The US wants to appease the Miami mafia, that will amount to a negotiation of compensation for property nationalized post 1959. Since the Cubans will have more capital given the lifting of the travel restrictions, I am certain they will negotiate a settlement for say, $.40 on the dollar.

Once this issue is resolved, the blocade falls.

This again, is just my small opinion.

[Kalifornication]

Whoa that soon. Those rumours have surfaced before but nothing happened. The travel ban will definitely be lifted this year I believe but in a few weeks? I doubt it. The party ended awhile back and let's be honest; I don't see how americans can screw up cuba more than it's been already by europe and canada. It should be interesting how cuba handles that influx and what the gringo tourists will make of that %20 surcharge from a country worse off economically than any in that region.

I doubt if Cuba is worse off than most, ... in fact, I'd argue, given their socialism, that they are better off then most, ... but that issue is for another discussion.

As for the 20% charge on american currecny, in my belief, that too will end shortly. If the USA is willing to lift the travel restriction, Cuba will, in my small opinion, remove the 10% penalty. This is nothing more than a prelude to the real issue which will be a discussion re the normalization of US/Cuban relations. This is no small gesture to Cuba given the fact that every American tourist that will hit the ground will sepend from $1000-$2000 US. The US wants to appease the Miami mafia, that will amount to a negotiation of compensation for property nationalized post 1959. Since the Cubans will have more capital given the lifting of the travel restrictions, I am certain they will negotiate a settlement for say, $.40 on the dollar.

Once this issue is resolved, the blocade falls.

This again, is just my small opinion.

[PincheCabron]

Whoa that soon. Those rumours have surfaced before but nothing happened. The travel ban will definitely be lifted this year I believe but in a few weeks? I doubt it. The party ended awhile back and let's be honest; I don't see how americans can screw up cuba more than it's been already by europe and canada. It should be interesting how cuba handles that influx and what the gringo tourists will make of that %20 surcharge from a country worse off economically than any in that region.

Crossed the border from USA to Canada. Stopped and searched by immigration. They discovered that I was in Cuba but no problem as usual as I carried no contrband.

HOWEVER, ... agent took me to the side and said: "listen, ... it all does not matter any more, .... we have received the memo and the travel restriction for all USA persons will be lifted in from 1-2 weeks. Is the party over? I think not, but maybe.

[Kalifornication]

Crossed the border from USA to Canada. Stopped and searched by immigration. They discovered that I was in Cuba but no problem as usual as I carried no contrband.

HOWEVER, ... agent took me to the side and said: "listen, ... it all does not matter any more, .... we have received the memo and the travel restriction for all USA persons will be lifted in from 1-2 weeks. Is the party over? I think not, but maybe.