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[Ekspat]

If you are laughing and saying that stampedes is not a good bar, then you do not know jack squat!

Nope, dont know him.
Okay, will have a look in Stampede in March then. :D

Cheers!

[Laylow3]

As much as I enjoyy your report I find a few things a bit vague.

You say at one point that you had a great time and there was so much piussy etc. But according to your own report I can cound on one hand the number of times you acutally fucked someone. IN 4 WEEKS?

The reason I didn't BF as many girls as I wanted to was because I didn't see a lot of super hot girls there. Note how at the end of my post I state that Angeles City would be perfect if it only had a place where model-quality girls could be easily found. I liked the ease and atmosphere of Angeles and I did like the quality of girls in Angeles but only compared to the other places I went to. There may be hotties in other places but I found the quality in Angeles to be comparable or dare I say slightly better than that of the other places I visited in the PI. You may wonder what I did when I wasn't mongering. I went to karaoke all the time! It was like $10 for an hour. Perfect for me! I played computer games at that Korean internet place in front of Voodoos like crazy! <- this is the stuff I left out because I'm pretty sure no one wants to hear about my gaming on this wonderful mongering site. Kinda ruins the mood.

I also see where you say that you would not pay the prices they want in Manila as "pussy is just pussy" and not worth it. Yet you said you paid 2000 pesos for a thick waitress or something in AC. Man that is more than I have ever heard of anyone paying there, and seems they were trying to seel you a waitress or mamma and not even a good ole bar girl. Maybe becuase they were all cherries or whatever, but IMHO if you were willing to pay more for that then that is why you got had.

I have no question on your staements about Cebu, although I like it better than AC. It does take some doing and getting around there and can be hit and miss. But again how is it you say that you would not pay the price, consider your air fair, hotel, meals, etc.- for the number of times you got laid it is working out to probably around $700 American per piece of ass.

Yes I did get played at Agasya and I noted that in my earlier post. I won't be going back there. Also, they weren't trying to force me to get the mamasan I was. They were trying to get me to BF the other bargirls but it was me who wanted the mamasan badly. $700 per piece of ass. I don't think so, nope. Flights to different places I went. Appx 1700 pesos (cebu pacific), room. 1800-3000 pesos a night (depends), meals $10-15 a day Oh yeah and when transiting to the PI all I had to pay for was my flight from Singapore to Clark which was about US$300. I took a MAC from Hi-Okinawa-Yokota-Singapore for free.

LOL. I am accoridiong to most of these other honest and frequent posters, probably of the most negative posters about AC on here, but can assure you at my worsr I will pull at least 2 or 3 differnt pieces of ass per day.

Do you mean you're "pulling" them in the sense of hooking up with them and having sex for free? (you = Brad Pitt) Or do you mean you're BFing 2-3 girls a day which any John Doe with fat pockets can do easily.

[Wrong Info]

I was in PI for about 4 weeks in Dec. I let it be. I sent her off the next morning.

I didn't like Manila at all really except for Jane. I didn't get a chance to visit the infamous P. Burgos street but I don't know if I'm really missing anything. I don't think I would ever pay the prices they want just for pussy. To me pussy is pussy

P.S. I only wrote about the times that I actually got laid, I left all the other crap out. I hope I didn't bore anyone.

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As much as I enjoyy your report I find a few things a bit vague.

You say at one point that you had a great time and there was so much piussy etc - but according to your own report I can cound on one hand the number of times you acutally fucked someone - IN 4 WEEKS?

I also see where you say that you would not pay the prices they want in Manila as "pussy is just pussy" and not worth it - yet you said you paid 2000 pesos for a thick waitress or something in AC - man that is more than I have ever heard of anyone paying there, and seems they were trying to seel you a waitress or mamma and not even a good ole bar girl - maybe becuase they were all cherries or whatever , but IMHO if you were willing to pay more for that then that is why you got had.

I have no question on your staements about Cebu, although I like it better than AC - it does take some doing and getting around there and can be hit and miss. but again how is it you say that you would not pay the price, consider your air fair, hotel , meals, etc -- for the number of times you got laid it is working out to probably around $700 American per piece of ass.

LOL - I am accoridiong to most of these other honest and frequent posters, probably of the most negative posters about AC on here, but can assure you at my worsr I will pull at least 2 or 3 differnt pieces of ass per day...

Good Luck in you r future ventures

[Wrong Info]

wow. i have to sit after reading all the spin, some are even as creative in their fiction and spin writing to say that yes the things i say- can and do happen-, but that somehow it just should not be written about in the terms i have written. and that for some reason i am writing something that is awe full. so let me first say that if you have read back a few pages of my posts. yes i do talk a lot about the scams there as they are more than abundant and only happen a very few times. they are rampant and happen in some form to almost everyone that goes!

second lets kill the spin here. and if you read back you will see where i have "encouraged people to go if they haven’t been" just that it would not be anywhere near my first choice of places to go. even went as far in a post to let people know what i consider the best and cheapest way to travel on the " fly the bus", for as little as 400 pesos versus paying scammers like beeline travel 1000's of pesos for a service that many have complained about.

so kill the spin there and you can read between the lines to see my posts are acurate, you don't have to ask what bars as if you have read the posts then you know that it has been stated by myself and others, it is in most bars.

as for other posters saying; do not know of any scams after reading the local boards, and what bars did the scams happen in, and bar owners don’t post a lot. blahh blahh blahh-

lets kill these false hoods quickly and simply.

one of the local chat sites- which i refuse to mention by name to not promote them as they are nothing but propaganda for bar owners, hotel owners with hotels that don’t even have hot water yet claim they are a 5 star hotel, travel and tour operators that have multitudes of complaints, etc.

at any event the one site that was started by a local character named trance that was best friends with a character named dave fisher that started a lot of the bar scams with his bars lolipop- voodo- treasure island- etc.

was even themselves a poster in a round about way of saying what i post is true and that there are many with interests there posting falsehoods on these sites.

they had a moderator that went by the name of mavick. mavick was supposed a local filipino gotten lucky. he was a ex ac street kid that was fortunate enough to have gotten into the us military. ohh thank god for uncle same you ungrateful slouch. anyhow he was reported missing and it was then reported the reason why is he was arrested and being thrown out of the military for posting of illegal activities in ac.

it was further then reported that the way they caught mavivk and it came to the attention of his superiors, is that he was posting on line in that site and many others under false names, threatening to "knife people" who had anything negative to say about angeles city. this board now has as part of their rules of acceptance, that if you are current military you do not enclose or discuss illegal matters for your own good.

to make mattes worse and show you what kind of guy trance is. he and his buddy dave fisher would often allow the banning of members who said anything unflattering about their scams. in fact they even had a thread about a marine that was set up and charged with [CodeWord123]. they seemed to allow any post that was against the marine who bar fined a bar girl and then was charged with [CodeWord125] this hooker, but if anyone questioned how a marine could get charged with [CodeWord125] a girl whom he had paid to have sex with. and that there certainly was some strong doubt if he was guilty. then people who posted in favor of the marine were banned from site.

what is real questionable about the marine [CodeWord123] case, is that it happened in the subic bay area, and it was found and posted later by another bar owner. that dave fisher was indeed very active, and admitted he was indeed active, in paying to corrupt the subic politicians to protect his bar interest there. it seemed in my opinion, that they did not want to allow anything negative to be said about the c-suckers that were framing a kid for [CodeWord123] to protect his right to scam us and overcharge us on drinks when we go there and then he is all the while protected by police.

at about the same time some months later dave fisher claims he is selling his bars in ac and moving completely to subic. trance just before announces he is selling his site and will now be a moderator on his previous site. i do not believe for a minute that either is true. but a way to cover their tracks and make it appear they do not have a hand in the set ups and promotion of them,

now there are much and many more than 6 or 7 ex-pats that go to that other site, and this is why they have even developed a thread for people to talk about some of the things they don’t like and scams, as in my opinion they were all telling trance he was full of it to ban people for stating what they all know was true and factual, because he was butt buddy with bar owners. this is further reason why i believe trance also wants to distance himself from the board he started as many would rather spit in his face than have a drink with him because of it.

as for any spin that i may just be a newbie that does not know, or that posters saying to watch for scams and showing how to get around them are not knowledgeable. that is ridiculous. i have been going for over 10 years, and know as much or more than many of the current bar owners that have gotten scammed into buying a bar there.

i have been to them all thigh high, fire and ice which sucks, gentleman’s, all the way down to friendship and the cold drop and all the bars along the way. some are fun, much more fun than fields, and things can and do happen there to. if you are laughing and saying that stampedes is not a good bar, then you do not know jack squat! i am not trying to promote any one bar, but jimbo has always kept a great bar there, although as mentioned even that has gone down hill somewhat.

again go and have fun if that is what you want, but again always ask how much, check your drink tab, don’t tell anyone personal info about yourself, and if your vacation time is limited and you want lost of pussy without weeding through girls that will claim they are cherry girls and not fuck. you may want to choose another destination in the philippines or even elsewhere in asia.

when reading posts realize that it is free promotion to bar owners to post things that appear to make the bars and any underhanded happenings something you should just overlook, lol, if you do they will be sure to take as much as they can and give back as little as possible. at least half the posts on this or any other site are indeed people with interests there posting with an alias to hide there true intentions, it is their business and all who go will read it. what idiot would not say something good about themselves?

whatever you do. do not disclose to any girl you are military. you will then be a target most likely.

[Bob Down]

I made a reservation a month or so ago at the Pacific Breeze. The reservation is for this comig Sat and Sunday. I am in Manila now. Going to Cebu for a few days in a few hours.

Pacific Breeze confirmed my original reservation but said they'd send a follow up confirmation that I"m supposed to respond to. A week or so before. I've sent several emails to confirm but they have't sent any back. I decided not to get a phone and don't really wanna go through the hassle of calling them if I don't have to.

Can I feel safe that when I arrive on Saturday that they will have my room reserved? I have printed out the original reservation, but just never received their follow up in order to do the final confirmation.

Can anyone shed some light? Thanks.

This should be posted in the AC hotels section, but I will answer anyway. I believe your first reply from PB would say they will send you a confirmation email 4-10 days before arrival, so you still have a couple of days up your sleeve.

Secondly I have never had any troubles with reservations there before. Like another poster reported resently that he was sent to the wrong room at first, I have had that same problem once before. That was an hour after I waited for my room to be made ready.

[Bob Bowie]

to those who want to go - i encourage it. life is definatey to short not to - however i also submit it imuch to short to waste time once you have been on places that offer less of a experience than thousands of other places including massage parlors in your own town...

last time i visited the local asian massage parlor i paid $90 or uninspired hand job. 50 for the non existence plus $40 for the hj. there was a kfc next door and i was constantly hearing people ordering their fried shit and waiting for the cops to enter with the local tv station filming. hard to relax.

next time i am in manila i can take a detour to ac for a couple of days and choose from hundreds of women to have sex with (gfe style, whatever i want to do all night) for around $32. in the worse case scenario, she leaves (runner) after 1 shot.

$32 > $90

see you all in ac, if i manage to scrape together $64, i will be the white guy with the big smile and a gfe on each arm.

[Blackangst]

It is not just Carmex and Wong info and that is easily found by just rading back thorugh the posts on this board. It is further told on many other boards, so it is not just us.

I kind of get a kick out of these boards to tell the truth. I read some that are as if a bar owner paid someone who can write to write a chapter from a novel and post it. What you don't see is the Bar Owners come out and say " I am a bar owner posting" and do you think for one minute they do not read these boards or post to them when they know for a fact that 100 % of the people coming there have ead them?

So we know they are posting as if they were people who have come there, and posting unrealistic expectations.

No one has said do not go there, just that there are many negatives you should know of, and as well there are much more enjoyable places than that tiny. Corupt. Dust bowl.

I am sure some of the posters that like to defend the goings on there woudl say it is not as corupt as I say---LOL.-- however that is just laughable.

The Philippines on a whole has been voted the most corupt in Asia for many years running. That is saying quite a bit when you cosider how corupt most of Asia is. To believe that a place that literally touts itself as " the sin city of the Philippines", in a place where prostitution is illegal, yet it is the make up of a good 80 % of its economy, you would have tbe a complete idiot to not be able to read between the lines of how corupt it is.

In fact to further the warnings. Some have even reported getting set up in recent bar raids going back to their hotel with a girl they rented from a bar, and the police stating the girl had told them she gave a statement to them she was taken for the pirpose of prostitution- and if the forienger did not ow pay the kind and concerned officer. He would be taken to jail!

This has said to have been ironed out and was only going onn during negotiations with the bars to pay highere extortion fees to the politicians running the zoo. Try and keep an open eye.

As there is a on going development of ways to seperate you from your money and in some cases jail you if neccesary.

It is aftere all 80 % of the economy in AC and who that lives there does not want to make a living?

Good Luck and try and not beleive Bar Owner Post that are full of shit!

wow....what a post! It sounds like you think every positive post is most likely from a bar owner.

Im not sure what other boards you mean (maybe you cam PM me) but the two AC private boards I belong to arent reporting so many problems. In fact, in the last 60 days there have been close to zero complaints about scams since station 4's staff shakeup in December. There were over a dozen reassignments.

Its funny you mention nasty girls. On one of the boards there was a poll recently about how many girls have you snuck out/barfined that had nasty pussies...I think the total number was single diget. And there are 6 or7 expats on the board who live there fulltime...so i honestly dont think its an issue.

I would like to ask you, since this is a board to share info and help others, what bar had the scam of the girl saying she was prostituted and forcing the punter to pay? I highly doubt this happened. In all my years going to the phils, and belonging to 2 other boards, this is the first time i've heard of this. If this is a new scam it puts the girls and the bars at risk, and we need to be warned.

Im glad I dont seem to have the same luck you have.

[Wrong Info]

As for transpo from Manila to AC or Subic I have used many times

http://www.swaggy.com/index_flythebus.htm

Do not know about the Southern Cross buss and know nothing about it - DO know many in AC have tried BeeLine and reported nothng but bad things, getting overcharged, lost luggage , getting broke dowd and stranded...etc.

The reason I like the " FLY THE BUS "

First it is dirt cheap 400 pesos

Second it's operated by Swagman Hotel and they have been in the Philppines doing this longer than any of the bars, hotels or transpo companies mentioned on any of these sites.

I hate their hotel as it is a dump, but the Fly the Bus is a great , easy way, to travel with all the fixings, beer for sale, etc. I have never had any problems personaly , but if ever they break down there is someone there to pick you up ASAP, as they have Busses leaving every day , several times a day , and always have a back up ready for any problems.

Lots of the newer ones do not have many customers and are yet established, on the Fly the Bus you will get lots of BalyBakyins(Philipinos) and others that have long history there and know the best ways around.

As for going ot Subic - would not waste my time and go if the Bus was Free, as it is known that the same person that had a hand in F ucking up AC (Dave Fisher) is the big player in Subic. Nothing but negaive reports on his Bars and Hotels there ( TI Treasure Island, Voodoo, Floating Bar, etc), and has been reported on many sites that he is now paying officals to protect his interstsl. This does not usually make for a good time, or in my opinion, a safe place - when there is somoen there actively corupting the officials.

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[Wrong Info]

I think it is pretty simple.

There ARE some bars that overcharge.....

For me, if a bar overcharges or the mamasan gives crappy advice and then does not give a refund - I just do not go back ...

Wrong info - maybe some bar owners are posting here. Quite possible. However, there are so many bars that it is almost impossible for them to fudge it. You obviously had a bad time - and I do not disbelieve you.

Rubbery,

I know you arbeing democratic and ofcourse there are Bar Owners from almost every Bar posting on every sex chat site on the net - lol. Lets not be naive, this is their business and every guy that likes pay 4 play reads these boards before they travel. This is the bread and butter of thier business and ofcourse they know it. That is why it is so painfully obvious that hey post MISONFORMATION and flattering remarks of the expected service their establishmets give , if not you may think out of litterlay 10's of Thousands of Bars in the World - at least there would be one poster that admits he or she is a bar owner.

Not even one assures you there are indeed most likely an abundance of them positng.

As far as my posts though - I am sure you are well intended - but it is usually these types that want to spin it into " YOu had a bad time", or something off topic. Then under this guise go on to post something that suggests for some reason mine and the many other posters confirming the experience are for some reason just the few cases. Reality is most people will read these boards, very few post and tell of theier experience. for every one negative there are probably a thousand that did not post, as they are not among those who want their travels known.'

Rest assured this has nothing to do with only my expereince, but more usintg this site for what it is intended, and that is to let others know what to expect and how to deal with it. Then as you mentioned things can be ameliorated into a positive fashion, and hopefully the reader can shape their trip into a good time.

The true problem in AC is that, like my posts, there are soooooooo many others that post the same experiences, and it is becoming known and many are passing on even atempting to enjoy themselves as ther are other places better proven.

This being the case, it is certainly not my fault, but more the fault of the Bar Owner that does not know how to run a succesfull business.

YOu can rest assured I have been into every Bar in Angeles City and even some places there that most would not venture. I see places that do it right and have posted them. I have said in past posts what bars are good and which ones are awefull. So it is not a post of, as you have implied, me having a bad time. It is me reporting the experience and what you can expect!

I will point out that the bars that have a bad reputation on one trip , are almost definatetly not going to change the next time you go . for example the case of the other posters reporting they had a runner at Blue Nile. This bar is under the same ownership and has been for many years. It has been reported for years that they train their girls to be runners and it is reported year after year.

The one thing I like is you say if you have a negative experience in one bar do not go back- I would say if you have a bad expereince then do not EVER go back to that bar, as the owner has established his business model and that is the way they run things. Most are not young and this is the way they have run theri lives and will not change.

The absolute worst on on Fields in the main tourist area and include, Typhoons, Dirty Duck, DollHouse, Blue NIle and anything within 200 Yards Pretty Much,

and as you go up around the corner toward perimiter a shame but Brown Sugar, Butterfly Rocks, and Honey Pots which changed its name from ClassRoom are nothiing but a waste of time and money -


Can you get laid o of those bars ?
certainly you can if you do not mind fighting off drink and cherry girl scams for most of the night to see if you can pull a pice of tail that will 80% of the time + try and run after 15 minutes in your room.

The crazy thing is as you get closer to perimiter, wich is not that far from fields and lots think of the place as a bug place - NOT - , but the latter Bars I mentioned are not even worth trying to get a piece of tail from. Butterfly-brwon Sugar-Honey Pot are pretty much spreading the same crap but worse than the Fields bars.

To those who want to go - I encourage it. Life is definatey to short not to - however I also submit it imuch to short to waste time once you have been on places that offer less of a experience than thousands of other places including massage parlors in your own town...

[Rubberyman]

Man, I just don't get it. It's like I visited an entirely different city than these guys.

I think it is pretty simple.

First of all, there ARE some scammers out there. There ARE also a few ladies that do runners. There ARE some bars that overcharge.

On the other hand there ARE people who always fall for the scams, and there ARE people who serially pick runners, and for some crazy reason keep going back to the bars that charge high drink prices. I can understand why such people might not have a high opinion of AC and its bars.

I have been going to AC regularly for several years and get caught on each of the problems above once in a while. However, if I get overcharged a couple of times and a runner once in a couple of weeks, it is not something that ruins my life and doesn't turn me any more bitter and twisted than I already am.

For me, if a bar overcharges or the mamasan gives crappy advice and then does not give a refund - I just do not go back on that trip. Simple - there are so many bars that do give good advice, have friendly ladies and cheap beers that YOUR experience is correct Mr Fusion - as long as you move onto the next bar if the one you are in stiffs you.

Wrong info - maybe some bar owners are posting here. Quite possible. However, there are so many bars that it is almost impossible for them to fudge it. You obviously had a bad time - and I do not disbelieve you.

However, you really need to try different bars, or perhaps a different approach, or perhaps get someone to give you some advice on why you are getting these bad times. For example, if I had a personal problem, it is unlikely that the ladies would say anything outright, but they certainly would use all the excuses (menses, cherry, already barfine etc) to not go with me, and if they did barfine, would run off at the first opportunity. I hasten to add that this may not apply in your case, but if you are getting a bad time in AC, there may be an easily rectifiable problem that you are unaware of. It happens.

[Wrong Info]

I'm a long time lurker this is the first time I've had anything to report. This is my first time in Angeles also.

Didn't barfine anyone from Gentleman's club, Peanuts or Dirty Duck. But I got a positive vibe from all those places. A few 6-7's in each place. 50p drinks for happy hour were quite enjoyable.

But I had my mind set on Blue Nile. A lot of potential there, a dark skinned girl whose name begins with W intercepted me as I started to wander into Neroes. I asked the mamasan if she was available for barfine, mamasan said yes. The hickey on her left boob convinced me it was true. IMHO she was way hotter than anything else I'd seen so far. After I bought her a drink I could tell she wasn't into me, but I was pretty buzzed now. After the second lady drink she tells me it's her time of the month. So why did the mamasan tell me she was available? Mamasan offers me a free drink. I decide to check the ticket and there's four local drinks in the cup. So it's not a free drink at all. I protest and the extra ticket disappears. Since W is not available, I barfine the girl with the second biggest boobs in the place.

Big mistake. Right away she turns the TV on and the volume way up. She's texting somebody. When I try to talk to her she's looking at the TV. Then she tells me her sister is in the hospital. We do it missionary and there's a pretty bad smell. I wasn't able to finish. She asks me for 200 pesos for trike and I refuse then 100, when I refuse again she walks out without saying a word.

Apart from the Blue Nile, I'm still having a great time talking to mamasans and flirting with girls in other bars. Don't get the wrong idea, I'm still ecstatic to be here.

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Aprecate the honet and truthfull report. And that is what most that are not bar owners posting have reported.- Blue Nile does indeed suck wind and the girls are nasty twats of the worst kind in there. Keep in mind he also owns several other bars on lower fields and this has indeed become the norm in most of the bars. Interesting you reported a funky smell as well, as lots are now noticing a funk that has appeared and it has dripped its way all over AC.

You see many a guy would rush to bang a twat with big tits not realizing she may have the nasty twat, and then it spreads to all the others as the guys bang other girls because this NASTY BIRD got them dirty. Most do not even realize they are dripping a green oooze. If you don't wear a raincoat make sure you get a shot before sex with your wife or GF.

Seems there are many more reporting this type of thing than just 2.- in fact if there werent propoganda posters, I would imagine AC would get almost no positive report.

[Wrong Info]

It is not just Carmex and Wong info and that is easily found by just rading back thorugh the posts on this board. It is further told on many other boards, so it is not just us.

I kind of get a kick out of these boards to tell the truth. I read some that are as if a bar owner paid someone who can write to write a chapter from a novel and post it. What you don't see is the Bar Owners come out and say " I am a bar owner posting" and do you think for one minute they do not read these boards or post to them when they know for a fact that 100 % of the people coming there have ead them?

So we know they are posting as if they were people who have come there, and posting unrealistic expectations.

No one has said do not go there, just that there are many negatives you should know of, and as well there are much more enjoyable places than that tiny. Corupt. Dust bowl.

I am sure some of the posters that like to defend the goings on there woudl say it is not as corupt as I say---LOL.-- however that is just laughable.

The Philippines on a whole has been voted the most corupt in Asia for many years running. That is saying quite a bit when you cosider how corupt most of Asia is. To believe that a place that literally touts itself as " the sin city of the Philippines", in a place where prostitution is illegal, yet it is the make up of a good 80 % of its economy, you would have tbe a complete idiot to not be able to read between the lines of how corupt it is.

In fact to further the warnings. Some have even reported getting set up in recent bar raids going back to their hotel with a girl they rented from a bar, and the police stating the girl had told them she gave a statement to them she was taken for the pirpose of prostitution- and if the forienger did not ow pay the kind and concerned officer. He would be taken to jail!

This has said to have been ironed out and was only going onn during negotiations with the bars to pay highere extortion fees to the politicians running the zoo. Try and keep an open eye.

As there is a on going development of ways to seperate you from your money and in some cases jail you if neccesary.

It is aftere all 80 % of the economy in AC and who that lives there does not want to make a living?

Good Luck and try and not beleive Bar Owner Post that are full of shit!

[Hesekiels]

Whatever Carmex and Wrong Info have to say, let's all enjoy ourselves!

Yes, we have``````

Genghois:

yes, you are perfectly right! However, during my recent visit I had (again) an awesome time in AC! At 3pm excellent afternoon sessions with a couple of bargirls (some additional pocket money for them while being off duty!), and at night fantastic LT services (even with girls from Blue Nile!).

Well, maybe it is just a misunderstanding and Wrong Info/Carmex refer to an entirely different place in the Fils that is also called Angeles City? :)

Cheers!


Hesekiels

[Genghois]

Whatever Carmex and Wrong Info have to say, let's all enjoy ourselves!

Yes, we have``````

[Wrong Info]

For the most part I think that is the reason CARMEX for some of the negative reports- It is not that people have a axe to grind against AC, it is that AC has become a huge dissapointment for those who have experienced much better and read some post from a bar owner or such thinking it was different.

Some other boards are so bad with the bar owners posting unrealistic expectations that you can't post anything that is true without being attacked. I have read al the reports below and most who have been have reported the Cherry girls etc. They may have even had fun and not known, but being such a small place and some of the only bar goers there, it is easy for them to see which bars you go to and call around to keep you chasing a dream. And seems they are doing that well and not giving much back.

The price increases would as well not be minded if it was matched with a better experience. The experience has become one where I truly feel you can count yourself lucky if your not involved in a scam and held in jail for your money acording to may reports on other boards.

As for if the girls are clean, I imagine lots are, there are just as many that are drug addicts and the like, or that could just care less.

I hate to say it, at one time I counted days untill I could go again, now I feel life is to short to waste my free time there.

The world is small as well and there are many places to experience.

Maybe AC will change if people continue to vote by going to other locations in the Philippines and elsewhere. Military definately should stay on high alert and not let anyone know they are in the service, as if you are in a scam or set up, they will have no mercy on your career if it is a way to get your money.

The tourist police are not there and seems the streets are showing it with nothing but people getting set up and held in jail for money.

Peace

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