2006 Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Magic2000]

Getting no GFE in Brasil is like finding no Arabs in Saudi Arabia!

[Yankee 617]

I agree with the other poster who said Brazil and the Philippines are the two best countries in the world for GFE. I would put PI as number one and Rio as number two.

Agree entirely. Right now, I feel the exchange rate is better in PI... so my focus will be there for awhile.

Within Brazil, the best experiances I've had were not in Rio (and I have yet to explore SP). Such places as Fortaleza, Macieo, Curatiba, Arrial d'Ajuda and Salvador da Bahia have been great. But it could be that I've simply spent so much more time in Brazil outside Rio (vs inside Rio) that I have many more fond memories outside Rio to choose from. On my initial voyages to Brazil, I avoided Rio and SP because I was a little afraid of them... "expensive" big cities with a reputation for violence... but with experience (and language lessons) my fears have dissipated. In fact, my last trip (about 1 year ago) included a few days in Rio during which time I visited the infamous Vila Mimosa (is that the name?), which someone on this board aptly compared to the bar scene on Star Trek (the one with all sorts of dangerous desparate weird alien creatures). Anyway, one of my first girls in Brazil was a sweet SW in Recife who came to my room on 2 separate occasions, each time for only R$50... I even walked her to the bank afterwards so she could deposit the cash in her account... and she was protective of me when crossing the street (to ensure that I wasn't run over by a crazy driver). Yes, GFE is everywhere in Brasil.

[The Corn Hole]

Dude Disaster53,

Rio and GFE go hand in hand. Unless you have horrible hygiene and resemble Uncle Fester you should not have too much trouble finding it there. You don't even need Porto skills or repeat trips to obtain it either. Game? Ha! Like you really need much game in Rio.

Also, all this talk about Rio pro's being too hardcore makes me scratch my head. I guess one should define what hardcore is. Are we talking in terms of an all business type of attitude or what? Because I've mongered in many countries including other places in S. America like Buenos Aires and I can safely say compared to the so called "high end" stock of WG's those other countries have Rio pros seem more like amateurs or semi-pros. You want hardcore check out China or Mexico or Western Europe.

I get the feeling you're are somebody who only goes for the super stunners. Maybe that's why you had difficulty with GFE. Usually the 9's and 10's think they are Divas and act accordingly. But I still think the Rio 9's have a better attitude than BA 9's. Go after the 7's and 8's and you'll probably get much better service.

Also, let me ask you did you tell these garotas you're only going to be in town for a few days? Next time you go to Rio tell them you're staying for alot longer than ten days. Rent an Apartment and give them the impression that you are planting your flag there and you aren't just blowing through town.

I agree with the other poster who said Brazil and the Philippines are the two best countries in the world for GFE. I would put PI as number one and Rio as number two. For PSE though Rio takes it hands down!

[Rosine]

I completely agree there are gfe everywhere if you have even a little bit of game by meeting girls on braziliancupid.com, in person at the bars in ipanema, or just getting out and meeting people. Was there for 16 days and spent most of my time with three girls which I paid nothing to all nonpros and spend one night at help and two night at luomo. Very easy just need to put time into it.

Yeah, I don't really get it. To me, Rio and Brazil is GFE heaven, that's what sets it apart from other places that have hot women too. In fact, I've found too much GFE when I don't really want that. I actually have found that I need to put some distance between myself and these babes. I've always thought they latched on for business purposes and I still do, but let's be real, some of them do want affection and some want to be saved from their lives in the programma. I've never sent back a penny to a chick, but I know some dudes who have... that provides incentive for these women to give you the GFE.

Brazil is total GFE, with stunning women of all kinds are completely uninhibited sex. I've been to Mexico, Columbia, etc. and I've never had any experience that even comes close to what Rio offers. I've never been to Thailand so I can't speak on that, but if you can't find what you want in Rio. There truly might be something wrong with you. No? Disaster should just try again. Nothing beats Brazil for anything you want that has to do with sex.

[Rosine]

Reading the rio section and I've noticed that the termas in this area as well as other termas are not mentioned at all at the forum or at least not a lot.

In the barra area you have:

1.Praia club 400. web site: www.cafe400.com.br

Very well known house in the area a little bit on the high prices but good looking girls (you can see a couple of them on the website).

Management at this place can be a pain in the #%$ sometimes but the girls make it worth it.


2. Termas Paris Cafe : www.pariscafe.com.br

This termas used to be termas pigalle.

Same prices as the centro termas (last time I checked) and you will find some good looking girls also.


3. Termas Ancoro do recreio: www.ancoradorecreio.com.br

Talent at this house not what it used to be but you will still find a couple of good looking garotas.


4. Rio Tropical Club: www.riotropicalclub.com.br

One of the places I like the most in this area 30-40 girls in their permanent team. They always have parties where the number of girls goes up.

Very fun and realxed place not to mention that it is huuuuuggggggeeeeeee!!

I recommend it


5. Club 600 : www.club600.com.br
This place is from the same owners of praia club 400, it's more of a downscale place but you can still find something worth your reais.

Well I'm going to leave it there for now hoping that this encourages reports on all of these places.

P.S. : I'll be posting on more places later on

Brugal8

Wow, this is great information. Now how much would a cab from Copa cost to get out to these places and then would that price be worth the discount you'd get on non tourist termas? Any idea what the cost structure is in these places? These have to be places solely for locals, no? I'm officially intrigued.

[Rosine]

I just had this conversation with a friend of mine the other day; we used to go to Rio before he was married and a couple of times a few years ago when he was married. He told me that the other day his wife said to him, looks like your days of going to Rio with Rio Bob are over? He responded that no he is just taking a break because he needs his money for other things. She then said to him we can go together if you want? He said to me then why even go?

My answer to him was that you need to position yourself in a hotel that she likes, has many things for a woman to do and she feels safe and comfortable in. I told him just like Lorenzo told you that the best choices are The Rio Sheraton or the Intercontinental both have a sprawling resort type feel with restaurants, Olympic size pools, spas, hairdressers, manicures and a gym. So after a couple of days of touring with her she might turn around to you and tell you she is going to get a manicure and a massage and lay by the pool honey, what are you going to do today?

Well you know the answer to that already, don't you? If you choose the Rio Sheraton then right across the street is several Love Motels like VIP and Shalimar and others. All you have to do is walk out the Sheraton, walk across the street, meet your escort in the lobby, and spend 2 hours with her then walk right across the street to see how the massage is coming along. You can always say that you walked to Ipanema and back, great exercise. As a matter of fact you can take daily walks, right? Since the motels are right across the street then no commute time, your time is used very efficiently. Just make sure you call ahead of time as it usually takes these girls an hour to show up so you don't want to be sitting in the room waiting for an hour, just wasted time.

Years ago I took 2 girlfriends to Rio, both times when I landed we hopped in a taxi and went straight to Buzios then on the way back stayed 1 or 2 nights in the Rio Othon Palace but in those days Meia Pataca was just like any other cafe on Ave. Atlantica, it just wasn't as obvious but the same stuff went on.

Then of course you have the Caesar Park hotel in Ipanema but the roof top pool is small, she may get bored there, you really want a place where you can leave her and feel safe that she has room to move around like the Sheraton. There are also 2 hotels in Leblon Marina Park and Marina Palace, not sure about the pools of these hotels but if they have any I bet they would be small roof top but the Caesar Park would be the highest class but the Marina hotels are nice too.

Then of course you can get away with this at the Marriott on Copa, very nice roof top pool and in short walking distance not too much evidence of the Copa scene, this is a great option for Copa along with the Copacabana Palace, in those areas of Copa the GDP scene is not too evident. Plus the Copacabana Palace has a big pool and very very nice, your wife would love it plus easy for you to get away to the Copa termas's.

Yeah, thanks for the advice. I'll check out all those options. Being at a hotel right across the street from the motels seems like a suspect move to me, but then again I've never been to the big motels, so I'm not sure what they have to offer. Soccer on the beach, my daily runs. All the ideas I was bumping around in my head. I think you hit the nail right on the head with that Buzios call. Then I'll try and do something, hopefully in Ipanema, but NOT COPA. I just can't be close to ground zero on any level. I don't even want her to see the sea of Americans over at MP. I mean, if she sees it on the one day we walk over there to check out famous Copa, fine. But as a jump off point, I just can't do it. I'll check out the places you listed and make a call. Should be interesting. A terma run might be tough, but I feel like I may be able to pull at least one off. Thanks.

R

[Rosine]

Rosine, care to share how long you been married and how long it took after that to get bored and want rio again? Give us some details on married life please...

Sorry, it took me so long to see that you asked. Married life is great actually, but I got the right girl. A man will never lose those urges, clearly, but I was ready to start a family so that's that, right? Hopefully this trip with her will justify my obsession with Brazil and open up more opportunities for me to go back. Not much changes though. I'd say if you don't want to grow a family with kids and the like, definitely don't do it. Those are things I want, so it works for me. Maybe this was a bit more upfront than what you were looking for, but I have to keep this one relatively real.

R

[Off Road]

Yes, the most notorious incident.
EA

I did get the info from BBC news, who only highlights the major parts..

But all that are not familiar with Rio, it is NOT a place to wander the streets at 1AM, let alone the beach. The OP who said this is a very safe place is far from accurate and you need more than common sense as there are dangers for tourists and locals alike.

[El Austriaco]

In my view, the bars/hotels/termas are all middlemen taking an unreasonably large cut for services that the girl provides. I have had bars in Asia try to charge me a "bar fine" to take a girl out. I have had hotels in Fortaleza try to charge me an extra "guest fee", on top of the agreed room rent, to take a girl up to my room. I have had this terma in Rio charge me this "bar fine". In each case, they are providing no service to justify their fee.

Personally, I have never liked the "bar fine" concept, though I do understand the reason it exists, and usually simply don't go to places that demand a bar fine, considering that there are always many other options available. I am still puzzled about the "low-end" termas in Rio that charged you R$250.00, though. I have never heard anything like that. Which termas was that, anyway? Sure sounds like a rip-off to me.

But not all establishments try to take this kind of a middleman cut. For example, LA Cafe in Manila is just a regular bar charging regular prices for their drinks... the bar is filled with freelancers and you negotiate directly with the girl... whatever you agree to pay goes entirely and directly to her from your hand, the bar is in no way involved in the transaction. The bar does manage to sell a lot of drinks because of all the freelancers and their clients, and in that way they legitimately earn some of my money. But there is no "bar fine" involved.

Well, there are tons of places like that in Rio, too. Meia Pataca, Balcony, Terraco Atlantico all operate based on this business concept; hey, even Help does (except for the R$ 22/$32 entrance fee, drink prices are actually cheap).

Similarly, the Manila hotel I stayed in charged me a reasonable fixed rate for my room, which included breakfast for up to two people every morning, and charged me nothing for the extra guests I took to my room every day.

The hotel I usually stay at in Copacabana charges me $12.00 extra for another occupant, which includes breakfast for another person, too. And if the girl didn't stay overnight, I paid nothing extra. Sounds pretty reasonable to me. So there are similar deals to be had in Rio, too.

Yankee, I totally agree with what you are saying about your difficulty of getting a GFE in Asian countries because of the language barrier, or to use your words,"its tough to joke & kid around and have fun with a girl if you can't say even 3 words to her". For me, that's ultimately what determines a GFE (or the extent of it): I mean, if my interaction with the girl is essentially limited to rudimentary communication a la "how much?", "OK", actually handing her the money afterwards, and "bye", it's just very hard for me to forget, even just for a second, that I am with anybody for any reason other than I am horny and she needs cash. And once you can communicate, even if just a little bit, things like DFK or DATY and BBBJ just seem to be so much easier to obtain. And if I can't communicate beyond the level of a one-year old, the commercial nature of the transaction just hits me smack in the face every other second. And that's probably the reason that I have mongered almost exclusively in Spanish and Portuguese-speaking countries. For the P4P+ experience.

EA

[Yankee 617]

Maybe she thought what I thought, that the R$250 that you paid at the club was for an all-inclusive package. Surely you were not paying that exorbitant amount just for them to let her leave work. And to think that I thought the US$20 bar fines in LOS was bullshit. Etc

Yeah, maybe. I don't think she was getting a piece of that R$250 (or whatever it was) but I could be wrong. In any case, I hope she got a piece of that R$250. The terma didn't do diddly-squat for me and I disliked paying them anything at all. But Roberta made me feel very good (both in terms of sexual services and "emotional/GFE" services) so I was delighted to do something to make her life a little better. If the experience had not been so good, I would not have offered her anything by way of a tip. But, in fact, I was delighted to have her company and delighted to give her a nice tip.

In my view, the bars/hotels/termas are all middlemen taking an unreasonably large cut for services that the girl provides. I have had bars in Asia try to charge me a "bar fine" to take a girl out. I have had hotels in Fortaleza try to charge me an extra "guest fee", on top of the agreed room rent, to take a girl up to my room. I have had this terma in Rio charge me this "bar fine". In each case, they are providing no service to justify their fee.

But not all establishments try to take this kind of a middleman cut. For example, LA Cafe in Manila is just a regular bar charging regular prices for their drinks... the bar is filled with freelancers and you negotiate directly with the girl... whatever you agree to pay goes entirely and directly to her from your hand, the bar is in no way involved in the transaction. The bar does manage to sell a lot of drinks because of all the freelancers and their clients, and in that way they legitimately earn some of my money. But there is no "bar fine" involved. Similarly, the Manila hotel I stayed in charged me a reasonable fixed rate for my room, which included breakfast for up to two people every morning, and charged me nothing for the extra guests I took to my room every day.

In short, I dislike paying middlemen who generally offer no service. I have no qualms whatsoever about paying a girl very well, if she provides me with very good service.

[El Austriaco]

No doubt the beach is dangerous at night. The current bus attack and police attack were far from Copacabana on Ave Brazil on the other side of the city.

Yes, the most notorious incident, the burning of a bus traveling from Espiritu Santo to Sao Paulo, which left seven dead. But it is not like the Zona Sul was (is) entirely trouble-free: there was an attack on Botafogo beach killing a woman and injuring her child, a police officer was killed in a drive-by in Lagoa, and another one in Barra da Tijuca. Please also note that the Ladeira das Tabajeiras favela, which is located in Copacabana (yes, the one you enter across the street from L'Uomo) is currently being occupied by the military police. In addition to 22 other favelas all over Rio.

EA

[Off Road]

Anyone that thinks Rio is not dangerous is in for a shock one day while strolling along copa beach at 1am.
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/am...eut/index.html

No doubt the beach is dangerous at night. The current bus attack and police attack were far from Copacabana on Ave Brazil on the other side of the city.

[RioThaiGuy]

I completely agree there are gfe everywhere if you have even a little bit of game by meeting girls on braziliancupid.com, in person at the bars in ipanema, or just getting out and meeting people. Was there for 16 days and spent most of my time with three girls which I paid nothing to all nonpros and spend one night at help and two night at luomo. Very easy just need to put time into it.

You either speak no Portuguese, or must have "gringo"stamped in big letters all over your forehead.

Yes, there are GDPs here who just want your money, Crazy Monica is a good example.

But, for me and most of our friends that I have met here, a GFE is only a few words away.

I have been basically tied to 3 or 4 girls for the last 3 weeks. It is why I have not had much to report. But, all 3 were great GFEs. And, I am currently paying "nada!" And, great sex every night ... and morning!

O Kaaaaay! You were very lucky or you got your time wrong. If you follow the same common sense that you would use in your own country, you would definitely not be walking along a very dangerous beach, known the world over, ...at 1AM!

Yep, you probably do not belong in Rio! But, then it is kinda difficult to get a GFE experience anywhere if you do not know how to look for it!

IMHO

Tom

[Cool Hand Luke]

Villa Mimosa

Noisy, Filthy, Seedy, Smelly and Squalid just about sums up my impression of Vila Mimosa or VM as it is known, Rio's most famous, or perhaps infamous red light district, located about 8 miles from Copacabana. This is one of those places that is worth visiting even if just to observe. But be warned it is not for the faint hearted.

I went along just recently on a Saturday afternoon out of a sense of curiousity, with a fellow ISG member, my partner in grime, who having dressed down for the occasion looked more Brazilian than the local street vendors. We took the Metro via Estacio Station to Sao Cristavao, which is located not far from the Maracana Stadium. A ten minute walk from there took us to the center of the action. In fact from the Metro it is quite easy to find. For those with a keen sense of smell. Simply follow the stench.

The "Strip" is about 60 meters long with 3 internal corridors running off it and consists of a series of very small bars with "facilities" upstairs for those brave enough or foolhardy enough to indulge themselves. I took a walk around to the sound of the blaring music and a very unpleasant stench emanating from the drains. A very fat 40 ish black woman strutted along the main drag naked except for the oversize string vest she wore. Elsewhere a girl in her midtwenties was seated on a table with her legs wide open, fingering her exposed pussy to the bemusement of the onlookers. Nearby a 35ish white woman sat on a bench, drunk/stoned to oblivion, likewise pleasuring herself because no one else wanted to. Welcome to the Vila Mimosa freak show!

So is VM Value For Money? Well even at RS 25 a pop your truly was not tempted by anything on display and likewise my travelling companion. If nothing else this place is good for a laugh, although I must point out that there were perhaps about two girls overall there, that in another time and another place (and definitely another price) I might have decided were a worthwhile investment. In fact if I was keen enough I could have opted for the Take-Away option, paid the price and manifested my lust elsewhere. Safety was never an issue as there was a very visible police presence. However the walk from the Metro Station during hours of darkness is not advisable.

Vila Mimosa: Take Metro to Sao Cristovao. Turn left out of the Station. After 6-7 minutes take a left under the Railway Bridge. Then take a sharp right and follow the road around.

Price Girls: RS 25

Times: Gets lively from about 17. 00 till late.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

[Bubba Boy]

Anyone that thinks Rio is not dangerous is in for a shock one day while strolling along copa beach at 1am.


http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/am...eut/index.html