2008 Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Prosal]

Ipanema

Don't venture on Ipanema Posto 8 portion of beach (Gay Farme), as in the whole area between Rua Farme de Amoedo and Rua Vinicius de Moraes.

Watch your ass (literally) there !!

[Off Road]

Thanks. Are you familiar with Ceasar Park? Can I bring in outside guest there? Also, better looking people on the beach is also a plus. So I guess that Ipanema is the equivilent of South Beach in Miami. The beautiful women go to the place where they think that the rich men are. Makes perfect sense. I think that I will stay there and explore the other areas once I get there. Sometimes it's good not to stay in the same area that you do dirt in.

Not familiar with their policy. sorry. give them a call, I am sure they speak english.

[Lorenzo]

Thanks. Are you familiar with Ceasar Park? Can I bring in outside guest there?

I stayed there once and loved it, but I had a special rate which no longer exists. It is a wonderful hotel in a great location, but I'm sure it is now very expensive, so stay there only if price is not an issue.

Regarding your second question: I did bring a GDP up to my room once, and there was no problem. However, it was in the daytime and she looked "normal." She was actually a L'uomo girl who gave me her cell phone number. I arranged to meet her in the bar, and then we nonchalantly took the elevator up to my room. No problem.

I have posted before on getting girls into upscale hotels, but the key factors are these:

--By far the most important factor is that she not look like a prostitute, i.e., that she look "normal." If they even suspect that she's a pro, you won't get anywhere near the elevator.

--You are much more likely to be successful if you try to get her in during the day, when they are much more likely to be busy with people checking out and checking in. At night some hotels have a security person by the elevator stopping anyone not registered from getting on. I don't recall this being done at Caesar Park.

--If you bring the girl back, as opposed to meeting her there, it's better to go first to a bar or restaurant, which is often on a different floor. You can then just turn around and get on the elevator.

--The following works at the Sheraton, but I don't know if it works at Caesar Park: reserve the room for two people. Then they don't care who you bring up to the room as long as she registers and they know who she is. You can also bring a different girl on different nights. However, the rule that she look "normal" still applies.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

L

[George90]

This week Europe left its interest rate unchange which is keeping the Euro high but also it is experiencing deflation, a lot of jobs in Europe have been slash due to a strong currency, over in the U.S , the U.S is experiencing housing problems and the dollar fell to a record this week. Right now I am not sure what will play out in the next few months to a year, but both the U.S and Europe are in trouble. BMW in Europe announced 5,600 layoffs 8% of the workforce.An artical in the Tribune said 2007 Spain built almost 750,000 homes more than Germany & France combine with demand about 60% of what was built. Spanish household wealth tied up in property is E521 Billion or 509% of GDP as in the U.S only 17.20 trillion was tied up 159% of GDP and home prices in spain are due to fall 20% or more. Air Lufthansa, Air France, Porshe are experiencing difficulty Europe could see a hard recession if it does not cut interest rates.

Europe's economic woes are the consequence of our problems. As we import less, those countries with which we have trade deficits, such as China and European countries will suffer. BMW sells its cars to us. As we slow our purchases of BMW cars, of course they will cut production and lay off workers. The airlines are hurting because of high fuel price and less passengers across the Atlantic. Remember that our brilliant INS/ICE make it difficult for Europeans to vacation here and spend money. Florida barely rebounded this winter with foreign tourists. The hassles with immigration and customs cancelsedout the benefits of the low dollar.

The European Central Bank (ECB) is NOT going to cut interest rates anytime soon. They have made that clear. One of the main reasons is that, despite some economic weakness in western Europe, Easter Europe is experiencing strong growth. It is benefitting form the oil in the region and the trade with China and India. Lower interest rates will stimulate that growth even more and cause inflation. Unlike our Fed, the ECB has said stable prices are a higher priority that full emploment.

I feel the combination of a US recession and slower European growth will force Brazil to lower the value of the real. If it doesn't then the Brazilian Central Bank is just sowing the seeds for a deep recession in 2010. I suspect that some wealthy Brazilians like the cheap imports that are experiencing now. All kinds of electronic goods and especially US real estate can be had for a song. But in 2009 when China stops buying its raw materials, Brazil will be up the economic creek.

[Bravo]

How much do the best looking girls charge in Help?

I was in Rio 7 years ago and went to some of the termas, they were great. Didn't go to Help What are discos are good? I will be in Rio next month for 5 days or so.

Cheers!

Depends on what your definition of "best looking girls" is. Like I said before, if your the type of monger who goes to Rio, to session with a "white girl looking brasilian" (ie: Blond hair, blue eyes, fake tits) Then plan on hearing 5-600R a night asking prices.

[The E]

Ipanema is much more upscale, there is more upscale shopping. From what you say pick Ceasar Park. It will cost you a lot more, but you will probably enjoy Ipanema. The *****ing will be in Copacabana, or there are termas in Ipanema, depends on what you want. The beaches in Ipanema have better looking people (IMHO) but not too many pros.

Thanks. Are you familiar with Ceasar Park? Can I bring in outside guest there? Also, better looking people on the beach is also a plus. So I guess that Ipanema is the equivilent of South Beach in Miami. The beautiful women go to the place where they think that the rich men are. Makes perfect sense. I think that I will stay there and explore the other areas once I get there. Sometimes it's good not to stay in the same area that you do dirt in.

[kbilly1690]

How much do the best looking girls charge in Help?

I was in Rio 7 years ago and went to some of the termas, they were great. Didn't go to Help What are discos are good? I will be in Rio next month for 5 days or so.

Cheers!

[Off Road]

I have been checking on hotels and I am a little torn between which one I should pick.

1) Ceasar Park Ipanema

2) Excelsior Copacabana Hotel

I have read that Ipanema Beach is the upscale area of Rio with more shops and resturants. I also heard that Copacabana is a more middle to lower class area with higher crime and violence. Is there really that big of a difference between the two areas?

My trip will be 30% relaxing, 15% shopping, 40% hanging out in resturants/ bars/ clubs, and 15% whoring.

I'm looking for a whoring friendly upscale location that will allow me to be around the hot area.

Which hotel should I pick?

Sorry to bother you guys with this question, but it's not something I can ask my mom or female friends.. without giving them ALL the reasons and motives I have for looking for a place. And my dad just likes resorts in the middle of no where because he hates crowds.

And thanks for all of the advice given a couple of weeks ago. It's well noted.

Ipanema is much more upscale, there is more upscale shopping. From what you say pick Ceasar Park. It will cost you a lot more, but you will probably enjoy Ipanema. The *****ing will be in Copacabana, or there are termas in Ipanema, depends on what you want. The beaches in Ipanema have better looking people (IMHO) but not too many pros.

[The E]

I have been checking on hotels and I am a little torn between which one I should pick.

1) Ceasar Park Ipanema

2) Excelsior Copacabana Hotel

I have read that Ipanema Beach is the upscale area of Rio with more shops and resturants. I also heard that Copacabana is a more middle to lower class area with higher crime and violence. Is there really that big of a difference between the two areas?

My trip will be 30% relaxing, 15% shopping, 40% hanging out in resturants/ bars/ clubs, and 15% whoring.

I'm looking for a whoring friendly upscale location that will allow me to be around the hot area.

Which hotel should I pick?

Sorry to bother you guys with this question, but it's not something I can ask my mom or female friends.. without giving them ALL the reasons and motives I have for looking for a place. And my dad just likes resorts in the middle of no where because he hates crowds.

And thanks for all of the advice given a couple of weeks ago. It's well noted.

[Prosal]

Somebody got a thesaurus for Christmas

Yeah .. it helps .. here in the civilized world, speaking fluent english is (thankfully) not really our prime cultural priority.

So soon the move from TJ and Boca Chica to Copacabana BTW ? .. impressive sense of adventure indeed.

[Smokers Rule]

Somebody got a thesaurus for Christmas

Those unreasonable but noble gestures of munificent generosity show the prodigal gentleman you are !

Hats off to you. The most desirable meninas must be throwing themselves at your feet begging you to party with them and to fuck them.

Do your measureless magnanimity brings you to sometimes invite one of your lucky conquests to some of your "15 reals or less for the day" fine meals ?

[Prosal]

Drinks 10R. Drinks for girls 5R.

Cheapstopherd

Those unreasonable but noble gestures of munificent generosity show the prodigal gentleman and carefree partyer you are !

Hats off to you. The most desirable and hottest Zona Sul patricinhas must be throwing themselves at your feet begging you to fuck them.

Do your measureless magnanimity brings you also to sometimes invite one of your lucky conquests to some of your "15 reals or less for the day" fine meals ?

[Sprite13]

thank goodness i don't go to help . . .

my average costs . . .

transport for the day abour r5
food for the day about 15r or less
drinks 10r
drinks or small pressie for a girl 5r
apartment 55r (admittedly this is a bit cheap)
quickies with 3 different girls 3x20r = 60r
overnight (between 12 to 24hrs) with girl who works help but who i meet in nog and then phone when i need her (applies to several, not just one, and they are all 8's) 100r

total 250 real



as i don't always do 4 girls in a day it's not always as much as that, but then i'd probably spend the difference on the theatre or dancing.

i think i agree that rio is no longer the cheapo paradise for people who want to visit all the tourist places like helpee and barberellas. maybe they might consider some of the top european destinations instead. but if you are more used to mexico, or other third world places, it makes perfect sense.

for newbies (and help addicts) robertinrio's pricing is a good warning, but if you've followed the threads about vm, centro 1r a minute places, etc and think you can handle that, then nothing much has changed.

if you're planning your first trip to rio (and are not attracted by the fact that it's a fantastic destination even without the p4p), maybe ask - unless money is no object -which sort of gringo are you?

but i am biased - i go to brasil and especially rj cos, corny as it sounds, i love the place, its people, its culture. one can only do so much pussy a day and there are many places where that quantity is easy enough to obtain. rio is still the marvellous city afaiac. some of the girls can get carried away (knowing that some folk will pay silly prices at certain times in certain places) but there's always plenty of others. and i don't avoid solarium (or even help) because of price - it's just that there's other places i'd much rather be drinking and shagging.


btw - speaking porto is not an automatic entry card imo. i'm not suggesting anyone here is in such a category but i've seen plenty of loud-mouthed, high-spending gringos that speak 'perfect' porto but with zilch knowledge of how to behave like a carioca. they really stick out.

i guess i am one of those sad people that won't mind if places like help are consigned to history and 4xz4 becomes a purely american-style pussy theme park that provides the occasional entertainment in the form of an expensive, glittery and meaningless shag after drinking with your buddies and exchanging macho tales of how you gave it to so-and-so centaurus girl three times up the bottom or saying what a great job the locker room girl has cos she gets to see all the men naked. you can carry your credit-card filled designer wallet there without fear of theft, act like an ar*e and everyone will smile politely, and generally pretend that brasil is a 1st world country that thinks you are the dog's bo**ocks. and one of the nicest things about 4x4 is that it is only a few bus stops from vm, where people have to behave normally and politely, girls interact with much less pretense and only charge you 20r for the pleasure of parting their milky white freshly-showered thighs in the wall-to-wall bedlam of noise and smelly bathrooms . . .

i can get an expensive hooker in most countries (except america, where there are generally only astronomical hookers worth having). but i can get genuine, non-pimped, low-cost, back-to-basics girls in brasil. and if you don't agree, i am genuinely thrilled.

very well said indeed christopherd!
just one question to you: where is the apart at 55 reais a night. sounds interesting. tell us more please.

thanks.

[Dub624]

I like how you put it.Any monger can buy a new plasma, payment on a car etc... or go monger in rio and 5 or 6 G's. Tough choice.........I have been reading a lot of post here on the U.S and I expect things to worsen in the U.S and also in Europe. This week Europe left its interest rate unchange which is keeping the Euro high but also it is experiencing deflation, a lot of jobs in Europe have been slash due to a strong currency, over in the U.S , the U.S is experiencing housing problems and the dollar fell to a record this week. Right now I am not sure what will play out in the next few months to a year, but both the U.S and Europe are in trouble. BMW in Europe announced 5,600 layoffs 8% of the workforce.An artical in the Tribune said 2007 Spain built almost 750,000 homes more than Germany & France combine with demand about 60% of what was built. Spanish household wealth tied up in property is E521 Billion or 509% of GDP as in the U.S only 17.20 trillion was tied up 159% of GDP and home prices in spain are due to fall 20% or more. Air Lufthansa, Air France, Porshe are experiencing difficulty Europe could see a hard recession if it does not cut interest rates. The U.S is already in trouble. So to monger in Rio may come down to the GDP's lowering their rates hopefully if tourism slows, because I doubt I will head back if the dollar keeps getting lower, I will just go to other south American countries where the exchange rates are favorable. Maybe if tourism slows and the Brazilian Real gets too strong they will devalue the currency.

Guys, stay away from the plasmas. Get and LCD. They last longer. Plasmas will soon be discontinued.

[Smokers Rule]

Haha right...

I read on the El Globo web site that out of concern about their BFE monger clients and gringo economic difficulties due to the plunging US Dollar that the Help GDPs have banded together to cap all Help TLN charges at 75 Reals!

Also it said that 4X4 and other top tier Termas have reduced prices and are offering second 40 mins in cabina w/GDP free!

I thought the posters on this board were in denial, but maybe they are right and things are turning around at last! Is there anybody on the ground that can confirm the forgoing?

Suerte, Veterano