2008 Sao Paulo Reports

[Tjmee]

Nice report brain, nice choice too!

[Brain666]

So friends in Brazil.

I still owe you my report from my last June 2008 business trip. It’s a bit long time ago, so all I mention is dated the beginning of June.

It was my 3rd trip to Brazil.

Not sure if some remember, but last 2 times I had a lot of sessions with my dream GFE ‘Simone’ from EU& Elas including once a double with her friend. One of the best sessions I ever had. Here are the links to my old posts

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A true mega GFE and we came extremely good along. She was intending to leave the business to take care of some baby (not hers).

So for my next trip now after more the ½ year I tried to contact her by E-mail (Google Portuguese translator) and phone, but was unsuccessful.

So I had t to find other adventures in an extremely pressured business trip with not much spare time for mongering.

Having no time and 3 nights, but only 2 for little secret mongering available I decided not to risk new adventures (even if the forum allows reference for many choices), but run in known paths to be effective.

Part 1 adventure:
So I chose to go back to EU&Elas again with a little rest hope to meet Simone again.
I was unsure if EU&Elas was eventually also hit by the crackdown, but I was glad to see it in full operation.

For people who don’t know, as it is almost never written about this place, EU&Elas seems to be some kind of middle class Termas spot, compared to the old luxury spots probably 2nd grade, but it has a 37 year history.

Entrance is 89 Reais, which includes the buffet and 2 drinks. Somehow reasonable.
The girls are not necessarily top class, and my Simone was missing, but you find nice ones in the range of 6-8+ with average of about 7-7,5. They remembered me in EU&Elas and my story with Simone.

I was rather late so not much time to relax in the terma. I chose a black haired girl an 8 (sorry forgot name) and we went to a 1 h session. Tried to ask for 100, but as already experienced last time the usual price for 1h is 150 Rs. So I accepted the counter offer.
The session was pretty ok but also not that outstanding (still I remember my sessions with Simone and Patricia Kimberly at my last trips) given my extremely good paste experiences. All girls are GFE types, so it seems pretty standard, so I wouldn’t expect somebody to fail in this place. Of course always chemistry is where YMMV or exceed. Would like to read more reports about this place for a broader evaluation. I ended up paying 290 Rs with incl. a 50 RS room kit.

Part 2 adventure:
After the session, I had already my clothes on and was having my last drink, almost all girls had already left, my eyes noticed a very slim and tall blonde Garota – Sally as it turned out. Nice face and figure a touch of my lovely Simone, but white skin. We came into ‘talk’ (none Portuguese to none English) and agreed that she comes with me to my room for 2 h and 200 Rs. (she asked for 200 1h first but instead of price down I requested 2h for same price – I had to take into account my long trip from Seoul + already 1 round of girl). I was already tired, but given the beauty I also couldn’t resist.
Hotel Renaissance asks and registers the ID, but no extra charge on the bill (which is not good on a company bill). In the room Sally turns out to be a good girl friend experience ready to enjoy herself and to please. I was already more then a bit worn out and tired, so it was almost impossible to come for me, but she managed perfectly with all of efforts. She spent enough time, was not pushy, allowed also me to please her and finally managed to squeeze out the last little drip.
The figure of 19-year-old Sally is definitely in nice shape to my liking, however after removing all clothes I noticed a lot of stretch marks from a very recent baby she had. Nothing to see from the baby figure-wise and also pussy did obviously keep tight enough, but the stretch marks are definitely more then I ever have seen before, a bit of a turn down (no wonder probably, a slim to spinner type with a baby). She makes up for it with her nice attitude, is accommodating and generally a nice girl.
She definitely should get some surgery to improve the stomach looks, ruins probably the one or other great chance.

She is up for more and repeats, told me she liked the session (ok ok and the money, which she didn’t tell) asked me to repeat with her. Asked if she could be regular girlfriend, as she liked how I treat women. I can call her and she would come after ‘work’ to my hotel (this would save entrance fee). She can’t stay all night (baby), but some 3-4h would be ok. An advantage is that she may accept 200 or 250 for 3-4h, which is somehow reasonable.
Anyhow I told her that I would call her when I will be next in town and she left with a lot of deep kisses.

Part 3 adventure

The last night I was able to monger, I again wanted to be on the save side and I had already just after arrival arranged the 2nd evening was reserved fro Patricia Kimberly. I was lucky that she had time, she remembered me on the phone as the one with the ‘best tongue and kisses and was looking forward to see me. We agreed to 400 Rs for 3h +Taxi where she asks for the real amount and no surcharge (it was 18 rs from her apartment). An all nighter would have been 600 Rs, which I will consider next time. I was trying to rebook her for the whole night but she apologised, as she had to go to some government place next morning. By the way, she speaks well English, not a natural speaker (I am none either), but way enough for good conversation of any type.

She arrived absolutely on time and greeted me in front of Hotel, where I waited for her Taxi to arrive, like an old friend. She was looking nice, only little makeup like women who go out (see photo’s). I could have gone with her to any diner and club and you can take her everywhere, introduce her as your girlfriend and nobody may notice her job. Good adopted attitude at any occasion.

I am not sure how to describe further:
Patricia Kimberly comes across like a real live girlfriend may not be able to beat. You can love this girl, regardless her job. She would be the perfect girlfriend.
She has the nicest body according to my taste. She shows her natural skin with almost no makeup, no ambition to hide anything. You can talk with her about everything, the job, politics, world climate, travel, … .She is absolutely honest in all she talks, no fakes no hides.
She told me a lot about her life, the Brazilian porn scene, and her family.
In the bed she seems to like everything. She pleases you as you like and accommodates to the style you prefer. But the softer style is more appreciated. She also likes to be treated well, and rather smooth with kisses. As I had 3h and still had the last night with Sally and the flight in the bones, I spent a long time on DATY, She appreciated and enjoyed, she noted that I found her sweet spots (I will not tell you guys, you need to find out yourself), much to her liking, but she didn’t come at the end and she didn’t either try to fake it. Just natural. Probably no girlfriend can be more natural.
She just relaxed and enjoyed. She spent a long time for blowing me, an expert which I didn’t remember from last time so good (or I was just in 7 heaven) and finished CIM. She didn’t swallow all (maybe a little), but didn’t panic to the bath either, about 3-5 minutes later together with a little break we did.
I think I don’t need to describe more details. It is just unbelievable the mixture of a professional sexually absolutely satisfying result and an absolutely natural behave with not any sign of professional attitude.
As I said, the overall is hard to beat for a real live girlfriend. You wish that Patricia were the one. I came extremely well along with her and probably we clicked a bit with our both attitudes, however I believe she comes well along with most of the members. Never heard about a bad review yet. Not sure how this can be topped (ok with Simone came very close).

Ok at the end of course there is still the business result and a payment which brings you a bit back in reality, even if the experience was reality itself. Repeat ensured.

She allowed photos in the room and as there are so many around from her, I do not think I need to hide face and other parts. It shows the natural girl life as she was in front of my camera, and me after the session and therefore not always 100% sharp. Isn’t she nice, so live? Love her!

Can’t wait to come back to Brazil and see Patricia again.

Regards

Brain666

[Albert Punter]

Gosh, I am not updated ?
Maybe I should RTFF.

Has Cafe Photo re-opened ?

...
Some of the girls works both Garden Club and Cafe Photo.

GK

[Tommy America]

What you heard is correct but the the house has now opened again and the strip podium is now a bar. The rooms in the house are no longer available for sexual activites and the house generally works like Cafe Photo now. You negotiate the price with the girl directly and pay her and not the club. I was at Garden Club 9 nights in a row during June/July and I think its the bests house in town (that I know of). Some of the girls works both Garden Club and Cafe Photo.

GK

Good to know.

I will make it a point to stop by the next time I return to Sao Paulo.

Thanks!

[Genghis Khan]

Interesting you mention Garden Club. I went there once about a year ago when it reopened. Not much action, but I knew the floor manager from Donna Caffe and he took good care of us.

After a while, we left and made the round of several other clubs. In every case, girls that we knew (and had been friends with for many years) cautioned us about the place --- they said drugs were heavy among the girls there and, the times the police had shut them down, it had been for drugs and not for "business".

I don't know how true that is, but I have been cautious ever since and have not gone back.

I would be interested in hearing from others who have been to Garden Club recently as I will be back in SP in early November.

What you heard is correct but the the house has now opened again and the strip podium is now a bar. The rooms in the house are no longer available for sexual activites and the house generally works like Cafe Photo now. You negotiate the price with the girl directly and pay her and not the club. I was at Garden Club 9 nights in a row during June/July and I think its the bests house in town (that I know of). Some of the girls works both Garden Club and Cafe Photo.

GK

[Ricker]

Ricker,

I think it's funny the way you mix your Spanish and Portuguese.

I bet all the girls think it's cute too.

Can't help it amigo ... 15 years of spanish and about 8 months now of learning portuguese. The spanish is bound to come out
I'm getting better though.

[Houston Player]

Ricker,

I think it's funny the way you mix your Spanish and Portuguese.

I bet all the girls think it's cute too.

[Hobbying]

Fyi Quackup, the girls that come at 2pm leave around 8pm so they can go with you then so you can avoid paying the club's takeout fee. This was told to me by the host there. But the quantity and quality is not as the night shift girls.

[Azn Safado]

azn,

Since the first time I went to Brazil, Sao Paulo has always been more expensive than Rio. Even when the exchange rate was close to 4:1. It's hard for me to put a number on either Rio or Sao Paulo because I like both.

For sure for the newbie, I would tell them to go to Rio first. It is much easier with the termas and just about everything is easy to get to with the metro system.

In Sao Paulo, it's such a big city, depending on where you are staying, it could become very expensive just to get to a club. Also the traffic in s/p is pretty bad. I live in L.A., where traffic is bad. S/p is worst.

In Rio, you can get any color girl you like, but mostly there are darker skin girls. Most are down to earth and if you connect, it's better than having a girlfriend.

In s/p, you can get any color girl you like, but there are more light skin girls.
The girls here are, for lack of a better word, more sophisticated. I don't mean to imply they are snobish or arrogant, but usually they are better dressed ( if you go to dinner, they dress to impress without overdoing it).

Also in s/p, before all the closures, it was easier, with the right connection, to date a celebrity, or a playboy, sexy and I can't remember the name of the other magazine model.

In Rio you have the terma triangle, 4x4, 65 and cancun. If you can't find a good date between them, you may never find what you are looking for.

Again, this is my view, I'am sure you will have other's inputting their favorite city and why, but for me, I like both. Did I forget to mention the fantastic restaurant in s/p. We will leave that one for another time.

Not sure if this actually answered your question, but I hope it helped.

Q

Quackup, thanks for the comparisons. It helps me understand the differences now. If I ever make it to S/P, I will definitely try some of their restaurants and then try to hookup with a pornstar like Patricia Kimberly. I hear her rate is pretty normal - something like R250 for 2 hours.

[Tommy America]

You didn't try Garden Club?

GK

Interesting you mention Garden Club. I went there once about a year ago when it reopened. Not much action, but I knew the floor manager from Donna Caffe and he took good care of us.

After a while, we left and made the round of several other clubs. In every case, girls that we knew (and had been friends with for many years) cautioned us about the place --- they said drugs were heavy among the girls there and, the times the police had shut them down, it had been for drugs and not for "business".

I don't know how true that is, but I have been cautious ever since and have not gone back.

I would be interested in hearing from others who have been to Garden Club recently as I will be back in SP in early November.

[QuackUp]

azn,

Since the first time I went to Brazil, Sao Paulo has always been more expensive than Rio. Even when the exchange rate was close to 4:1. It's hard for me to put a number on either Rio or Sao Paulo because I like both.

For sure for the newbie, I would tell them to go to Rio first. It is much easier with the termas and just about everything is easy to get to with the metro system.

In Sao Paulo, it's such a big city, depending on where you are staying, it could become very expensive just to get to a club. Also the traffic in s/p is pretty bad. I live in L.A., where traffic is bad. S/p is worst.

In Rio, you can get any color girl you like, but mostly there are darker skin girls. Most are down to earth and if you connect, it's better than having a girlfriend.

In s/p, you can get any color girl you like, but there are more light skin girls.
The girls here are, for lack of a better word, more sophisticated. I don't mean to imply they are snobish or arrogant, but usually they are better dressed ( if you go to dinner, they dress to impress without overdoing it).

Also in s/p, before all the closures, it was easier, with the right connection, to date a celebrity, or a playboy, sexy and I can't remember the name of the other magazine model.

In Rio you have the terma triangle, 4x4, 65 and cancun. If you can't find a good date between them, you may never find what you are looking for.

Again, this is my view, I'am sure you will have other's inputting their favorite city and why, but for me, I like both. Did I forget to mention the fantastic restaurant in s/p. We will leave that one for another time.

Not sure if this actually answered your question, but I hope it helped.

Q

[Azn Safado]

Quackup, I enjoyed reading both your Rio and S/P reports. I've been to Rio 4 times but never S/P. Seems S/P is quite expensive as the Rio Termas you can get out with about R240 damage for an hour at 4x4 after 5pm and R200 before 5pm. The incall action seems like the only good value in S/P.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you compare Rio vs S/P as places for P4P?

[Genghis Khan]

Really nice reports! If you enjoy Jun Sakamoto you should try the newly reopened and relocated Japanese restaurant Kinoshita. Be sure to order the Menu Degustation and ask for the sake marinated Lychee fruits filled with foie gras and topped with truffle and salmon roe or the fresh scallops topped with warm truffle oil and parmesan shavings. This place is better than Jun Sakamoto in my opinion.

The prices at Cafe Photo is is varying according to which girl you pick up if it is a slow night and your negotiation skills. On my last trip I usually managed to negotiate the price down to R$500 for the night, but one particualr diamond I took on a slow day without much competition for her was much more (still worth it though).

You didn't try Garden Club? Just as many lookers as Cafe Photo but with a more informal and relaxed atmosphere and lower prices.

Please PM me - I think I have some interesting info for you!

Take care,
GK

[Balluba]

This and not the session before it, made my final day a special one

I am at work right now, and after reading You Rio reports, I have decided to read these new SP reports after work, in company with a nice cup of coffee. Thank You !

[QuackUp]

Final day in Brazil. My flight out is at 20:30. I figured I must leave the hotel around 16:00 - 16:30 because of the famous s/p traffic.

Now to decide, eu & elas, bomboa, because they both open at 14:00 or call Amanda, the black girl that I saw at bomboa the other night.

Weighing my options, I decided to call Amanda. I figured if I went to eu & elas or bomboa, I would have to taxis to and from and waste a little time with the travel.

I then called Amanda. She said she could be at my hotel by 14:00, stay 2 to 2 1/2 hours for r$500. The way I figure it. If I went to bomboa, the entrance would be r180, another r$100 for the room, then minimun r$300 for the girl. So I told Amanda to come on over.

She didn't arrive at 14:00, didn't arrive at 14:30. I called her and she said traffic was bad but she was close by. She arrived at 15:00. I almost called it off.

She appologized for being late and started right into it. Nice kissing but then the dreaded cbj. Couldn't believe it. Two girls from bomboa giving cbj. I would never have guessed it.

Just like the other girl from bomboa, she was fun, but the cbj just didn't do it for me. If not for the cbj, I would recommend, but unfortunately, since she did a cbj, I don't recommend.

By the time we finished round one, it was about five minutes before 16:00. She wanted to give me another round but I told her I needed more time to recover and if she was on time, we would have done it.

So on that note, we showers and ended the session. When time for payment, I gave her r$ 400 and told her I was deducting the amount for being late. She was cool with that and said next time she would be on time.

Not the great bang I was expecting for the final day but it will do.

A funny thing happened on the way to the airport. While riding in the back seat of the taxi, we get on their so called freeway. There is a bus going the same direction as us but about 3 lanes over.

As I'am staring into space thinking I can't believe I have to come home, I yawn. As I'am yawning I look at the bus and a very cute girl, I say about 18 and very pretty, mimic my yawn while looking at me. I look back at her and laugh, she looks at me and laughs back.

I give her sign language saying I'am leaving for the airport and make like I'am crying. She starts to laugh and gives me signals not to leave. But alas, her bus is getting off, I start to blow kisses at her, she then blows kisses back to me. Even though I will probably never hook up with this girl, this is the perfect example of why I love coming back to this country.

This and not the session before it, made my final day a special one