2006 General Reports

[El Austriaco]

I will admit that I fall into this category. It is not really that I have money "to burn", but I have much more money than time. So I am not willing to explore into the unknown and negotiate to the edge, only to take a chance to leave emptyhanded.

And based on your individual circumstances, this makes perfect sense, Euro. You know, when I was in the same situation, with time being more valuable to me than money, I did exactly the same thing. Like in 2002, during my first trip to Rio, I only spent three days there, on the way back from a trip to Salvador. Went to MP, took out two girls for a dupla, R$ 300.00 (R$ 150.00 each). Just couldn't wait to taste the world-famous Rio pussy...

In 2004, however, I was (literally and unexpectedly) forced to spend three-and-a-half months in Rio. As the expenses starting mounting, I simply started looking for some more economical P4P options, since paying R$ 150.00 to R$ 200.00 on a daily basis for Help chicks or even more in termas would just burn a huge hole in my pocket (especially since I was not working). That's when some expatriates took me under their wing to introduce me to the downtown scene. Life was never the same afterwards, and I have never turned around to look back at Copacabana the same way...

I love Rio because it really provides so many different P4P options for everyone: for the high-rollers willing to dish out thousand of R$ for TLN, for the more middle-of-the road pussy connoisseurs and termas dogs, and low-end rollers like Sperto or myself, who get a kick out of exploring new places and discovering cheap bargains away from the touristy areas. For guys looking for a GFE, or mongers who just want to do as many girls as possible ST, nothing else. There are so many different games... and the only one that matters is what makes us happy, given our individual time and budgetary constraints. That's why Rio is the P4P capital of the world for me. Because there is something for everyone.

Wow, the cost of heliskiing sounds outlandish. Seems like you miss it, though. Remember, doing a Rio cutie doggy-style actually is somewhat reminiscent of the tucked position in skiing (and provides similar cardiovascular benefits). Maybe you should try the "helicopter" with a GDP the next time. Just gotta leave the skis at home

EA

[Euro100]

2) 95% of the reports are written by guys who travel to Rio one or two weeks at the time with lots of money to burn and little time to waste.

EA,

I will admit that I fall into this category. It is not really that I have money "to burn", but I have much more money than time. So I am not willing to explore into the unknown and negotiate to the edge, only to take a chance to leave emptyhanded.

Yes, having many foreigners with a bit of money to spend around keeps the prices at Copa high. But as I found during my trips to centro, this has absolutely no influence on the prices downtown. There the foreign influx is still a small influence compared to the number of local mongerers.

So the happy fact is that all of us can coexist happily in Rio without messing up each others games.

happy hunting
euro

P.S.: When I did the numbers, I found that with all the money I spent on pussy, I still spent more on drinks and food. But with all of the money that I shelled out during these two most recent Rio weeks, it was sitll less than a week of helicopter-skiing in the Canadian Rockies. No more heli-skiing for me!

[Euro100]

News from the ground.

I spent one hour at Balcony's last week and as a foreign expat speaking fluent Portuguese, I couldn't get a one hour deal for less than R$ 100. And there were only dogs there, I mean > 4. I do agree with EA, Copa is a zoo with sindicate prices. Go downtown to find gems for R$ 50 and avoid Copa.

I agree that the picking wer slim last week at Balcony. When we were there, the only good locking chick was at out table. And this was Juliana form L'uomo, because one of the guys in Steve's posse had invited her to come along with us. That's why all we were able and willing to do was to get drunk there. (Not that there is anything wrong with getting drunk, mind you!).

euro

[Urcarioca]

3) Not suprisingly, considering where these guys are mongering and their time constraints and budgets, reported prices are significantly higher than those available for locals, whether native Brazilians or foreign expatriates, outside of Copacabana.

EA

News from the ground.

I spent one hour at Balcony's last week and as a foreign expat speaking fluent Portuguese, I couldn't get a one hour deal for less than R$ 100. And there were only dogs there, I mean > 4. I do agree with EA, Copa is a zoo with sindicate prices. Go downtown to find gems for R$ 50 and avoid Copa.

[El Austriaco]

I am a bit confused right now...in other sites I read about guys dropping $100 for 2 hrs and such. But it seems as if there is plenty of cheap goods out there and, while quality wise it may be harder to find >7s you can if you look long enough. Comments?

Concarne,

If you read through several months or years of the Rio 2006 reports here on ISG, you will be able to confirm the following:

1) 98% of the mongering experiences reported here pertain to the same few upscale termas in Zona Sul (MC, L'Uomo, Centaurus, Solarium) or in Centro (4X4, Cancun, Rio Antiguo) as well as the usual Copacabana hangouts (Help, Meia Pataca, Balcony). I doubt other sites similar to ISG are significantly different.

2) 95% of the reports are written by guys who travel to Rio one or two weeks at the time with lots of money to burn and little time to waste.

3) Not suprisingly, considering where these guys are mongering and their time constraints and budgets, reported prices are significantly higher than those available for locals, whether native Brazilians or foreign expatriates, outside of Copacabana.

4) If you read the few reports by people who live there or who have extensive experience in Rio, speak Portuguese, and who are looking for cheaper options beyond the tourist segment (mainly Sperto, Bubba Boy, Ibiza, Full Throttle, and myself), you will find many cheaper options. The same people report that good quality is to be found at good rates outside the Copa zoo. The experience may not be as point-and-click, but with a bit of effort, it is definitely feasible. Portuguese language skills definitely help.

5) Considering the huge differences between mongers in terms of time available (a few days to months or years), budgets, experience (first visit, no Portuguese vs. lives there, fluent Portuguese), personal preferences and individual mongering styles, it is not suprising that while some pay USD 100 for a couple of hours, others pay R$ 50 for TLN or R$20.00 for ST. It is all out there... just up to you to chose. Read the board, and you will find out where to go for all the different options. BTW, if you are mainly attracted to mulatas and pretas (just like me!), you will not face any shortage of those in the cheap places. Trust me on this.

6) In all price segments, pussy has gotten more expensive over the past two years, no doubt about it, mainly because of the weak dollar. Please keep in mind that there is no guarantee that, say, in a couple of years, the dollar will be stronger. So even if you personally may make more money, the overall cost may be the same to you.

You know what makes Rio the top sex destination in the world? That sex is available 24/7 with a wide variety of types of girls for all budgets and mongering styles. There is just no other place like it.

Earlier this year, I wrote a longer piece about Rio pricing:

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...4&postcount=91

Hope this helps,

EA

[Concarne]

Thanks fellows...great info!

I am a bit confused right now...in other sites I read about guys dropping $100 for 2 hrs and such. But it seems as if there is plenty of cheap goods out there and, while quality wise it may be harder to find >7s you can if you look long enough. Ciomments?

Brazil for all nighters at $75 or less sounds great, for ST for under 15 sure...now if I have to dropping a couple of hundy per day for pussy I have to rethink things as I am still on a budget and perhaps it would be best to wait a couple of years when money will start coming in at a higher rate.

Maybe I should take care of Indonesia and Burma first. But I do love the latin experience and had great times in Colombia and DR...likely going back to both soon.

At any rate...great info and much appreciated!

[El Austriaco]

But have you ever been to the mini-termas at Rua da Alfândega, 172? It's the kind that starts at R$10.

I know a number of different R$10.00 places in the area, and Sperto has reported on some other ones in that category. Alfândega 172, however, is new to me, but I will check it out the next time I am in the neighborhood. There must be tons of similar places in that part of town: every time I go to the SAARA market, I receive two or three flyers of new places opening. But there are so many places, so little time. What a drag.

But do I enjoy reporting on these largely undiscovered gems? You bet.

EA

[Mr Enternational]

Rua da Alfândega.

EA

Yeah, I think I will check 502 out the week after next. But have you ever been to the mini-termas at Rua da Alfândega, 172? It's the kind that starts at R$10. I always get sidetracked with other places when I am downtown and forget to look for it.

[Concarne]

Awesome fellows....I will do more reading and probably come up w more questions. Thanks a lot!

I am able to blend w the locals and speak a bit of portuguese and fluent in spanish so I think I can pick up some more pretty quickly.

Not sure which cities I will hit but as I will only have 3 weeks in country, on a budget, I will like to keep the cities close to each other but also with less expensive options available. And I have a bit of predilection for black chicks and mulattas.

TIA

[El Austriaco]

Here's Euro's writeup of his 502 action (also in Reports of Distinction):

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=1735

As you can see on the picture posted, 502 is located right on the corner of Av. Rio Branco (which is the street you see in the background) and Rua da Alfândega.

Either follow the directions provided by Euro or the following: take the metro to Uruguiana station and make sure to take the "Presidente Vargas" exit. Walk in the direction of the big church at the end of Presidente Vargas. Cross the first intersection (this is Uruguiana, you can't miss it with the McDonald's right at the corner) and continue one more block until you hit Av. Rio Branco (a very broad, multi-lane street). Hang a right for one more block, and you are right at the corner of Rua da Alfândega.

IMHO, 502 is a great place to hang out even if you don't go with a girl, especially on Friday evenings, when tons of downtown office workers descend on the place, most of them just to drink, party, and grab some ass. It is like a Brazilian-themed rap party in there with up to 50 girls at a time. Like Euro wrote, not all of them cute or even doable, but there are always a few gems, and the atmosphere (and prices) are hard to beat. BTW, "Centro de Lazer" (just like "Centro de Relax") is just another fancy term for "*****house" (just like "Termas").

Also, Rua da Alfândega and the surrounding streets (like Buenos Aires) all the way up to Praça da República (commonly referred to as the SAARA market) are ground zero for inexpensive shopping for anything and everything you would ever want to buy in Rio. Even if you are not in the area because of 4x4 or other centro termas, go there once just to avoid inflated Copa prices for souvenirs, soccer shirts, CDs, DVDs, etc.: you might save so much money that checking out 502 might actually be free.

EA

[Euro100]

If you have not done so, my fellow mongers, please do yourself a favor and follow the link that EA posted in the report below. It points to a report with three more links, and one of them is to his adventure in 502. Here is the direct link to it: http://internationalsexguide.info/fo...postcount=1033 I put this one into the Distinction catagory a few months ago when it came out. It is really good and helped me a lot in deciding to give 502 a try.

502 is really easy to find. As you come up the Uruguaiana Street exit from the Uruguaiana Metro station, you can walk straight ahead and end up in Rua da Alfandega. Two blocks further down this street is 502. Below is a picture of the outside of 502, which is what you see when you come up Rua da Alfandega from the Metro. Maybe that will help finding it.

euro

[El Austriaco]

Hey guys!

I been reading some of the threads and got some interesting info on Villa Mimosa. As I really enjoy getting out of the beaten path, speak some portuguese and likely can pass as a local I am interested in checking the more "for locals" areas.

For more economical options in Centro Rio, check out this post of mine a while ago (a collection of prior posts by Sperto and myself regarding Centro action):

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=1127

Not exactly VM, but cheap, fun, safe... and easy to reach from Copacabana.

EA

[Sperto]

Hey guys!

I been reading some of the threads and got some interesting info on Villa Mimosa. As I really enjoy getting out of the beaten path, speak some portuguese and likely can pass as a local I am interested in checking the more "for locals" areas.

Besides Villa Mimosa, can someone post a list of similar other areas not just in Rio but other cities as well? Could make for some interesting exploration.

TIA!

In Brazil you find nothing equal to VM in other cities. If you tell me what city in Brazil you're interested in I might help you find something similar.
Cheers
VM Fan Club

[Concarne]

Hey guys!

I been reading some of the threads and got some interesting info on Villa Mimosa. As I really enjoy getting out of the beaten path, speak some portuguese and likely can pass as a local I am interested in checking the more "for locals" areas.

Besides Villa Mimosa, can someone post a list of similar other areas not just in Rio but other cities as well? Could make for some interesting exploration.

TIA!

[Java Man]

DFWDude:
i was in Rio 2 yrs ago over Halloween. they don't observe it in Rio and it doesn't fall on oct 31, but nov 2, (all souls day.) they celebrate it in SP, though. i did a google search and found that some SP clubs may observe it on oct 31. don't expect trick or treating nor haunted houses, as those are american traditions.
Nov 2 falls on a thursday, so everything will be open.
btw, Carnaval has a Halloween feel to it, as many people dress up in "fantasy" costumes.