2007 East China - Shanghai

[Gualtier Malde]

Lao Ma, if you have the info on the provider who is now potentially spreading HIV, please post it immediately. Don't wait for Dadadidi. The information is too important.

GM

[GermanSurviver]

What a first Night in Sh,

I met the AC(now right? )and some of the Shanghai Gang, he shows me some nameless Bars (sorry I forgot all the Names), maybe it was to much Gin Tonic and the Jet Lag.

At last I was in the Manhatten Bar packed with pretty nice Girls.

BTW. I speak with the "Blond, tall, huge Breast" One. I don't try her/him but I'm not sure if She is an He or not.

I'm courios what comes next this Night with the Gang again.

I'm sure a lot of Fun and of course some Gin Tonic.

GS

[Neuromancer]

Sort of a belated question. Was up in Shanghai a few weekends ago. Not sure why I suddenly thought to ask this question.

Across from that complex which houses Muse (at Yuyao Lu and Xikang? Lu), there is a KTV at the corner and a couple of shops a couple doors down. These two shops look like BBS', but one of the shops, the girls looked to be dressed in KTV type of outfits and the quality on the looks scale appeared to be on par with KTVs. I also noticed a local-looking guy hop into the shop and quickly leave. If I remember correctly, he went into the KTV after leaving.

So my question is, is this shop is a BBS or perhaps it is a "staging" area for the KTV? It would seem extremely unusual (to me anyway) that the KTV would use a room outside of the building and in such plain view as a holding area for the girls. But then, the girls in the shop didn't seem like the typical BBS girls, though admittedly, I'm not a frequent BBS visitor (never actually).

[Santa]

Don't think it's uncommon, I've had hookers refuse money before - but usually it's because they want something more.

That's right, IF she is refusing his money it's because she is looking for a larger gain. But maybe her plan never worked out. Maybe she couldn't get him to give her what she wanted, like a wedding ring, or thinks he doesn't have much money, so she has now invented a HIV story as her way of getting rid of him?

Or maybe it's a sympathy scam and she is now trying to get him to give her money?

So, I think either Dadidi is bullshiting us or she is bullshiting him.

Santa the Cynical Skeptic.

[Ace Gallant]

The Shanghai Gang have the pleasure to bring Newbie: GermanSurviver to the Famous Pub.

As reported earlier, there was some renovation done in which the original signage was taken off the front door. It is replace with the big 1771 sign. I attached here the photo of the front door for easy idenfication. Also if you notice, the small sign on the right side of the door (Arrowed in the photo) Reads in Chinese "Members Club".

In the other photo, is the bunch, who visited the Pub. Check out where GS (the guy on the left side of the Photo) eyes are looking!

AG

Hey! Is this a coincident or what? Its my post #1771 and I am posting about this pub with the address 1771???

[Ace Gallant]

Dear "Shanghai-Gang"

I'm in Sh now if somebody want to "show" me the City...lets go

AC thanks again,you are an good Mne and Friend.

I send you an PM.

GS

The Shanghai-Gang welcomes newbie; GermanSurviver to Shanghai. This is his first trip here and we hope he will enjoy the whole trip.

Tonight we went Bar hopping at the famous TRL, to the famous Pub and than we left him back in Manhattan.

Coming up next few nights, we’ll be showing a lot more, like Red Ropes, Nude KTV and perhaps underground Strip Joins. Of course he will also be introduced to more members of the Shanghai gang.

To the newbies; The Shanghai Gang is not a nasty bunch, we are fun loving guys. All you need is to ask nicely and try not to be a wanker, respect others on the board and you will be welcome by us. GS is a good example, he ask nicely and he get the best treatment. Of course for non-Seniors, just pay a nominal fee of US$20 and get the PMs so that you can PM us. Please do not jammed up the board space by posting "Coming into Shanghai for XXX..." and expect us to post you an answer on the board, this again is a wastage of board space.

AG
BTW: GS, I am AG not AC.

[Neuromancer]

Sorry, I just don't believe this story. A hooker refusing money?

Is she fooling you or are you fooling us?

Don't think it's uncommon, I've had hookers refuse money before - but usually it's because they want something more.

[Lao Ma]

Dada, or Mr. Didi, has written me 3 private messages - really only one long one broken up in to 3 parts. With some basic details about his HIV positive girlfriend.

I've told him to post the same basic message he sent me to the Shanghai board, or else I will for him. I have her name and the massage companies she worked for. Evidently, she also works for the high-end KTV places. (is it just me or does that in itself seem rather fishy?) He either has valuable information that can save lives, which in that case he has a duty to post on; or he is b.s.ing the forum. He seems like a reasonable guy; his pm to me was articulate and well written. So at this point I'm willing to give him the beneift of the doubt.

He has actionable information of an urgent nature. If you don't want to wait for him to post, or me to (if he fails to do so) , I suggest you pm him.

[Emmseven]

Went to Yu Ping last weekend with a co-worker. Glad to say that it's still a great place to go. I forgot the girl's # but I let my friend pick first and I just took whoever the manager recommended. She was really new. She almost slipped off the rope. She kept saying sorry but I thought it was kind of cute.

She looked very natural and a bit taller. Very slender. I think her # ended with a 9 and I know they all start with an 8. So maybe it was 829 or 809 or something like that. All in all she was ok though. I liked the fact that she aimed to please and kept asking me if things we ok.

[Santa]

And no, it is not possible that she lied to me. She is not asking me to help her, she has always refused any money from me, even when I gave her my ATM card

.

Sorry, I just don't believe this story. A hooker refusing money?

Is she fooling you or are you fooling us?

[Ace Gallant]

From what I can understand about the test, if you have HIV, the test becomes positive up to 22 days later, so if you have just had unprotected sex don't expect accurate results.

And don't wait for symptoms of AIDS before you get a test, of course.

Today's technology:

HIV can be detected in 24 hours with a HIV test kit. HIV stands for "Human Immunodeficiency Virus". This test has proven 99.9% accurate.

However not 100% of the HIV positive patient develop AIDS (Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome) some of them never! Fastest record of HIV positive patient that developed into AIDS is 11 months.

AG

[BuleDaddy]

maybe this belongs in some safe sex forum, i didn't see one, and so i write for those in shanghai.

some sort of methamphetamine epidemic in sh among ktv girls has been discussed in this forum. in some unknown number of cases, it may be administered intravenously, maybe with shared needles, and in other places this usage has resulted in hiv epidemics. i have heard of some plans in sh for clean needle exchange for drug users, but i do not know if it has been implemented. in some cases, methamphetimine needle users may have "speed bumps" at injection sites. look at wikipedia before you come for more information.


editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here for more information.

they have tried it everyplace from the us to switzerland and what they found was that the drug users draw water into their clean syringe from a communal water cup that immediately infects their syringe with hep, hiv, strep, and many other diseases.

[Santa]

And no, it is not possible that she lied to me. She is not asking me to help her, she has always refused any money from me, even when I gave her my ATM card as a Chinese wife does.

She is like many Chinese women, incredibly honest but ignorant.
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I don't know about this story, I have my doubts. She doesn't sound like any chinese hooker I ever met.

I always find these girls to be dishonest, cunning and smart. They primarily think about money and will do anything to acquire it, including licking my arse. There is no fucking way I would give one my ATM card.

Hey Ddd, have you checked your bank balance lately?

Santa the Skeptic.

[Jktravl]

Stayed in Pudong a but did not have far to go to the Holiday Inn. Bartender could't draw my beer fast enough before this babyback thing comes up and starts rubbing my leg. Sweet smile but teeth were a bit messed up. Perky, We settle for $400 rmb. BBBJ, & FS with raincoat. Went back thursday night and 2 approached me right as I sat down for $1000 rmb, one pretty, the other not so, maybe a 5-6. Decided to wait and walked to the other side of the u shaped bar and another tight pretty one comes right up, not the same girl, but same treatment. After we were done,, she cleans out the drawer with the extra soap, mending kit and toothpaste. Nice to see a girl take care of her hygynine. Thanks to all other posters.

[Bonzo1]

Dadidi:

Thanks for your post. I don't want to start a big thread here, criticize you, or throw doubts to the wisdom of safe sex at all, but I do have a couple of observations, written in respect:

1. just because your lady is not looking for money or anything from you does not equate to your post saying there is "no way" she would lie to you. I've been in China for over a decade now, and its my observation that just like any other contry on earth, a certain percentage of people make up all kinds of stories. People like their lives in delusions, all the time. The tone of your post and the tone of her response to perhaps getting a death sentence seem just a little too casual for me - my spidey sense is tingling. She doesn't sound like this is a big deal to her at all - and I question that.

2. If she is indeed HIV positive and still wishes to be a sex worker, she is no different than a serial murderer on the loose. The right thing to do is to let any member who contacts you via private message know her name, description, phone numbers, and which MP's she works for. If you don't do that you are essentially an accessory to murder. You have detailed information about an individual who can spread a fatal disease to men here on the board. You post implies she is a well-know person, who any of us could run into.

I guess what I am saying is that you are in a position to save our lives. Think about it.

1. Ditto (very nicely said)

2. In fact, if she insists (or proves) she is actually HIV positive AND still turning tricks (especially with the "I don't give a f*uck who I infect" attitude) then you are obliged to report her to the authorities, not just other members, for the same reasons.