2007 East China - Shanghai

**Ace Gallant** · 04-25-07 09:36

Originally Posted by le grand

me and 5 colleagues went to a karaoke bar last month with my business partner who was our local host and his nephew owned the joint. we were met there by woman in a tight business dress suit. yao ling was introduced to me as the executive secretary of our business partner. she hag big boobs and big ass. plump but not fat - just what i like in a woman even though she was a bit on the older side.

we had a room with 4 hostesses. they were reasonably accommodating (to wandering hands j but were a bit put off by the fact that 3 of our guys were pakistanis. then yao ling heated the place up. taking off her jacket revealed an almost transparent shirt showing off her ample cleaverage. she kept sitting with her legs apart showing off her pussy that was barely covered by a g-string with plenty of pubic hairs visible. while we were groping our hostesses, she was letting our pakistani colleagues pawed all over her. while they pooped her tits out of her low cut bra, she was giving them hand jobs, first above their pants then actually pulling out their cocks.

at that time, my partner informed me yao ling was a present for me for closing a deal in dubai. he suggested i could take her back to the hotel then or we could stay and shared her for a while. i chose the latter since i suspected my pakistani colleagues would not have too much fun otherwise. yao ling got on her knees and started giving us bbbj. one thing led to another and i had my first gangbang and bukkake session ever in china. we tried, but cannot get the hostesses to participate so it was not an orgy. however, i can tell they were completely fascinated even though somewhat disgusted, particularly watching yao ling getting banged by the pakistanis. i think there is some kind of race thing going on.

at the end of the night, i took yao ling back to my hotel and got a hand job in the taxi. getting into the hotel, royal meridien was a serious pain. the lobby was on the 20th floor (i think). so they have all sorts of staff on the ground floor directing guests to the appropriate lifts. then there was more staff directing you on the lobby floor to the lifts for your room which were not aligned with those from the ground floor. even though yao ling was in a business suit, the staff picked up the fact that she was a working girl. they were giving her a hard time muttering something in chinese until i firmly told them to leave us alone and that we could find our own way to our room. all told i had 4 sessions with yao ling in one evening starting at the karaoke club. that was a record for me.

i had 3 great days with yao ling before i left town. my colleagues were completely envious. i posted her picture in the photo section. be warned: many readers thought she was fat, old and ugly – but i found her incredibly kinky. oh well.

btw: this was the first time i had a 'present' in my life even though i had heard of such practice before but kind of chalked that down to urban legend.

it is not an uncommon business practice in china or should i say asia. except the part about doing all of these in a karaoke bar. if this is true, i would assumed that this is one of the “underground” private ktvs that i had mentioned in some of my post. if it is not, perhaps you like to share with us the name and the address of this bar?

btw: beauty is in the eyes of the beholder! you think she is beautiful others may think she is not; but long as you enjoyed yourself , who cares???

enjoy!
ag

**Shag Lover** · 04-25-07 08:56

this is my first report. hope you will be kind. i read all the posts i could before i showed up in china, and i know you folks aren't very nice to us guys who don't do that, so please be nice to me.

i really like the down and dirty. i'm not a young man, and i can't say that it is easy for me to attract young pussy anymore. except as i now know, in china. god, i think i must have died and gone to heaven, somebody help me i think i'll pass out...

i had a chance to go to shanghai china. what a gift to a drowning man. you better believe i took it. and i read everything you fellows had to say about this city, and man it is all true. and then some.

i spent many nights before my trip dreaming about those saunas, the red ropes, the easy street *****s, and tongren road. sounded like there are so many women ready to fuck a man with a dick i just couldn't stop salivating. i had to carry a kleenex around just to keep the spittle off my chin before i arrived.

that airport is a damn long way away from town. i thought the taxi driver was ripping me off. but i did remember somebody saying something about that, so i barely kept my cool, until sure enough, it started looking like the city in the tour book, and i knew i was getting close to some hot pussy.

i got to my hotel, but man it was kind of a dump. they said it was three stars, but back where i come from, it was probably a one star. but hey, there was a condom for sale in the bathroom, so i figured things were looking up. if you have a bad hotel, the best way to cheer a fellow up is to put condoms for sale in the bathroom. well, that, and call the poor guy up and ask him if he wants a massage.

yup, they did, and i did, but the lady that showed up wanted a hell of a lot more money than i thought i should pay, after reading this forum. i got her talked down to 800 yuans. i know you fellows think i paid way too much, but hey, man, i was horny, and i just got down off the plane, and man, it ain't that much after all. anyway, if any of you are bent out of shape over it, she wasn't that good after all, seemed to rush things too much.

i was still feeling horny! i got the front desk to write down how to get to tongren road. that took some work, they had a hard time with my chinese - ha ha ha.

well, the taxi driver got me there in one piece, and i was smart enough to get my hotel to give me a card.

what the heck is it with all these old moms with kid beggars. shit, i want to kick somebody's ass for letting that happen. what a damn shame! they are annoying like hell too.

tongren road was not quite what i expected. the strip is shorter than i thought it would be. but i could see some sleazy women outside. they were all calling me in. but i've been around long enough to know that if there are women hanging around outside trying to drag you in to the bar, man there is something wrong inside that bar. i decided to go in a bar that seemed to be doing alright for itself, without those sleazy (i'll admit a few were cute) women trying to drag me in.

i went to the one called manhattan. ok. i get it. lots of women here. just like what i read about. man, this place was loaded with ho's! and i saw this one woman get up on the bar, she was hot! she didn't take her clothes off though. back where i come from, she'd have been naked and guys would have been throwing money at her. i guess they still have something to learn about capitalism here in communist china. ha ha ha

there were plenty of young chicks that wanted to hook up with me. but i decided to get a beer. sing tao, i said. they said whut?!?!?! ha ha. nobody understands my chinese in this town. what the hell is wrong with them? ha ha. i got my beer, and started talking to this chinese dude. hey, he's not from china. shit, either said his name was sunny, or he worked for sunny, maybe sony, hell i don't know. he was younger than me though. sort of bushy hair for a chinese guy. we sort of started checking out the chicks. he didn't seem to be having much luck yet. poor fucker.

i spotted this foxy woman. well for me she was foxy. sunny thought she was too old, but hey, i'm not a young'un anymore. i think if they have some age on them they know what the hell they want. this chinese woman was partying down, and slamming the drinks. i introduced myself. man, she was sexy to me.

we partied a while, shared some drinks. that woman can pound some booze. seemed like it was a good time to head out. but she was feeling sorry for my new friend sunny. (i can't even remember if that's his damn name, but that's what i called him. he was sort of a dick head, so hell, i don't much care.)

anyway, my girl (i'm not gonna give you her name, i'll call her jane), jane said why don't you bring sunny. he's been looking at bambi (not her real name). i think he likes her. i'll get her to come. so jane talked to bambi and we all headed out to my hotel room.

i don't know why i brought sunny along. he was being a jerk about the whole thing. he was saying they were gonna rip us off, and he didn't like me that much either. what an asshole. but man, bambi was a young cutie, and jane (my woman) was just right for me. in the taxi, she was rubbing my dick just the way i like it, and she was sort of rubbing bambi too. poor sunny was stuck in the front seat, maybe that's why he was whining so damn much. ha ha. i made him pay for the taxi.

we got up to the room. man i love an orgy, and it looked like that was what was gonna happen. i won't bore you with all the sucking and fucking that went on, but it went on for some time. we stopped for a bit, and then jane told me something that just fucking blew me away! bambi is her daughter!!!

i mean we were all on the bed together, i was fucking jane, and sucking bambi's tits. it was great. sunny was having problems. he sort of popped quick, as soon as bambi started playing with his dick. he went off to the sofa and was like pissed off. i told him to hang out, relax, maybe he'd get his hardon back and could fuck either one.

but then the worst thing happened. bambi realized what jane told me, and went berserk!! she started screaming at her mom! i can't believe you told him that!!!! i am so ashamed!!!! shit, man, this is my first night in china, and i have a family of crazy women in my hotel room, and a sulking premature popper on the sofa waiting to get his hardon back.

bambi (not her real name) got so crazy she kicked out the fucking window of the room. i didn't know those windows opened, but they do, a little. enough to open up a little for air. but she kicked it past the stop, and jumped out the window!!!!

shiiiit. this is my first night in china, and a damn woman breaks my hotel window, and then tries to kill herself.

my room was on the 2nd floor. dumb *****. she hardly had a scrape.

but sunny ran out the door. jane wanted 3000 yuans for two of them. i told her she was as crazy as her daughter. i gave her 500 yuans and kicked her out, then called the bell man. told him exactly what happened. fucking hotel manager showed up. wanted me to pay for the window. i told him what happened, and told him i'd call the fucking embassy and make sure nobody booked this hotel again. anyway, long story short, we all cooled off, i paid for the damage, nobody called the cops.

when you go to tongren road, be careful of that crazy mom and daughter in manhatten.

fucking crazy women, and if i ever find that asshole sunny, or sony, or whatever that bastards name is he is owing me some money.

this is shag lover.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here for more information.

**Santa** · 04-25-07 08:04

Originally Posted by Shanghai Noon #2

I want to clarify my position in that at no time did I ever think AG is a scammer. I have met the man and his friends and I like them, they are nice people. They have good points and bad points just like every one of us. Look, I know that the girls only make 10RMB/drink so suggesting that AG is getting kickback in money terms is ridiculous. I thought everyone understood that! Apparently not everyone:-) If, in the heat of argument my joke was misinterpreted, I hope everyone understands.

Thus far, I have enjoyed and learned from interacting with people on this board. I have been fortunate in that respect and have no horror story to tell. I will endeavor to be friendly to everyone I meet and help my fellow man, whenever possible. In fact, I wish AG and every one of his friends the best.

OK. That is a peace offering! I'm sure our friends AG and GM will accept that as a sincere apology for misunderstandings.

**Matsu69** · 04-25-07 07:41

so far this year i have spent more time in china than at home. got tired of the p4p. decided a few weeks ago to concentrate my efforts on cultivating a local freebie.
hit the usual places - bars, discos, starbucks, etc. had great luck tracking down all kinds of sw's (i think there are more sw per capita here than bangkok for christ sake!) but not too much luck with local girls.

recently i decided to take a different tact. i've been going to the local soapy, and seeing the same girl quite often. she and i really hit it off - her english is pretty good and she is relatively new to the biz so she isn't too jaded yet.

she gave me her cell# and we arranged to meet after her shift. well we only ended up grabbing some food and talking that night. next night same thing - met up grabbed some drinks and talked. i never pushed the issue or said i wanted anything else - she is pretty cool and i do enjoy hanging out with her.

third night (friday) when i met her, she said she wanted to go back to my hotel with me. i insisted that we grab something to eat first. she agreed, but was actually more anxious than me to get back to the hotel.

once we got to the hotel, i told her to relax. i wanted to take care of her tonight. i didn't want her to feel like she was working or had to do anything to please me at all. let her take a shower by herself (her request). then gave her a nice massage. really tried to take things at a natural speed rather than the usual 4f of p4p.
we spent the night making out and talking. i never suggested we have sex at all. fell asleep and in the morning she woke me up stroking lil' bro. she started to go down on me and i told her that i was still taking care of her - so i went daty.
at first she seemed uncomfortable - what the hell? chinese guys don't like to eat pussy, so their ladies don't know how to enjoy? well, after about 2 minutes, she was done with the shy routine and was really getting into the situation. i took my time and made sure she was satisfied (twice) before stopping.

then i asked her if i could make love to her. she smiled and nodded her head enthusiatically. on went the cap and we had a fantastic session that lasted about 90 minutes. honestly, i was hard as hell, but couldn't get my nut. it was really a great session though, she came several times, and when i finally did pop we were completely exhausted.

we showered, and i started wondering if she was going to hit me up for money. she never said a word about money though. i asked her if it was alright to come to the soapy and see her, but she said don't worry, she wanted to see me again when she finished work.

we went to grab lunch and talked some more. she said she had a great time and was so glad that i took everything very slow. she said i reminded her of how two people should be together.

we've spent a few more nghts together. sometimes we just talk or make out and sometimes we get busy. again absolutely no mention of money. when we get something to eat, she always insits on paying even though i usually grab the check and pay anyway. and she insitst that i don't need to see her at work anymore.
she knows i'm only in shanghai a few weeks at a time, and that i am married.

so i defer to members more experienced with chinese women than me - is there such a thing as fwb in china? i've been in fwb relationships with us women before, not sw's though. is there a catch to this situation i am not seeing? these are not the actions of money grubbing sw's that i have read about in the forum.

**Shanghai Noon #2** · 04-25-07 06:17

Originally Posted by Bob Builder

So out of the RMB300, you guys made something like RMB40 - 50 a piece or does AG get a bigger slice of the pie?

You guys are thieves, LOL!

I want to clarify my position in that at no time did I ever think AG is a scammer. I have met the man and his friends and I like them, they are nice people. They have good points and bad points just like every one of us. Look, I know that the girls only make 10RMB/drink so suggesting that AG is getting kickback in money terms is ridiculous. I thought everyone understood that! Apparently not everyone:-) If, in the heat of argument my joke was misinterpreted, I hope everyone understands.

Thus far, I have enjoyed and learned from interacting with people on this board. I have been fortunate in that respect and have no horror story to tell. I will endeavor to be friendly to everyone I meet and help my fellow man, whenever possible. In fact, I wish AG and every one of his friends the best.

**Le Grand** · 04-25-07 06:09

me and 5 colleagues went to a karaoke bar last month with my business partner who was our local host and his nephew owned the joint. we were met there by woman in a tight business dress suit. yao ling was introduced to me as the executive secretary of our business partner. she hag big boobs and big ass. plump but not fat - just what i like in a woman even though she was a bit on the older side.

we had a room with 4 hostesses. they were reasonably accommodating (to wandering hands j but were a bit put off by the fact that 3 of our guys were pakistanis. then yao ling heated the place up. taking off her jacket revealed an almost transparent shirt showing off her ample cleaverage. she kept sitting with her legs apart showing off her pussy that was barely covered by a g-string with plenty of pubic hairs visible. while we were groping our hostesses, she was letting our pakistani colleagues pawed all over her. while they pooped her tits out of her low cut bra, she was giving them hand jobs, first above their pants then actually pulling out their cocks.

at that time, my partner informed me yao ling was a present for me for closing a deal in dubai. he suggested i could take her back to the hotel then or we could stay and shared her for a while. i chose the latter since i suspected my pakistani colleagues would not have too much fun otherwise. yao ling got on her knees and started giving us bbbj. one thing led to another and i had my first gangbang and bukkake session ever in china. we tried, but cannot get the hostesses to participate so it was not an orgy. however, i can tell they were completely fascinated even though somewhat disgusted, particularly watching yao ling getting banged by the pakistanis. i think there is some kind of race thing going on.

at the end of the night, i took yao ling back to my hotel and got a hand job in the taxi. getting into the hotel, royal meridien was a serious pain. the lobby was on the 20th floor (i think). so they have all sorts of staff on the ground floor directing guests to the appropriate lifts. then there was more staff directing you on the lobby floor to the lifts for your room which were not aligned with those from the ground floor. even though yao ling was in a business suit, the staff picked up the fact that she was a working girl. they were giving her a hard time muttering something in chinese until i firmly told them to leave us alone and that we could find our own way to our room. all told i had 4 sessions with yao ling in one evening starting at the karaoke club. that was a record for me.

i had 3 great days with yao ling before i left town. my colleagues were completely envious. i posted her picture in the photo section. be warned: many readers thought she was fat, old and ugly – but i found her incredibly kinky. oh well.

btw: this was the first time i had a 'present' in my life even though i had heard of such practice before but kind of chalked that down to urban legend.

**Bob Builder** · 04-25-07 04:19

So out of the RMB300, you guys made something like RMB40 - 50 a piece or does AG get a bigger slice of the pie?

You guys are thieves, LOL!

**Ace Gallant** · 04-25-07 03:07

Originally Posted by Unknown One

Santa,

PS Going to Shenzhen next week during the holidays, fancy meeting up for dinner? I looooved that dinner we had. Man I swear when going to Shenzhen must have a few seafood meals!
:P

I'll be there next week, Again, I'll call you when you get off the plane!

Enjoy!
AG

**GermanSurviver** · 04-25-07 00:52

Give me just 1 answer:

Dont you like the Girl in the Bar?

Why shoot some Pics from you and the Girl? Don't remember?

Maybe for you she was "just an ugly 5-6 rated Girl"

I like her, she was an real nice and god Girl.

Anyway, you feel bad about the 300 RMB this Night? Does you Post to fly more then 1.5 Million just with Business Class?

#once more be a Gentelmen,dont forget you are an "Guest"

For me you look absolutly happy when I shiat this time,becouse you ask me for some more Pics. And dont forget AG pays the bill.

GS

**GermanSurviver** · 04-25-07 00:38

Ag ok. The only thing what I answer is: I never pay for Peggy? I promise it, not more or less

About your "patent" for the closing line. Is 1 Drink enouph?

You ask me what I do till 6 in the morning? Also no answer, I just have fun?

TO Round2: Hei Bro?

Your Post is exactly what its in my mind. Take care and be my Guest

Ahhh: for all other Members: I'm real, if I'm an Fake or an Alias from AG so AG have my Credit card number,

It would be an Worstcase for my Bank Account? Belive me?

Enjoy GS

**Clueso** · 04-24-07 21:55

Hi,

Just joined the site and saw your post. I'll be in Shanghai in 2 weeks and would appreciate any contact numbers and ideas of best place to find action. Staying at Howard Johnson Plaza Hotel.

Thanks,

Clueso

**Unknown One** · 04-24-07 18:18

Originally Posted by Santa

Again, there is no such thing as a "Shanghai Gang". That's just something we made up as a casual reference to some ISG guys who know each other. AG is not the "gang leader", we just say that sometimes as a compliment to a friend.

As for scams, it's not the other guys fault if some of the girls overcharged ShanghaiNoon for drinks. The girls are more likely to try it on the new guy.

Naturally, if someone is a very regular customer and speaks chinese, his chances of scoring freebies goes up. Why does AG get freebies at TRL? Easy, it's because he's a fun guy and the girls see him as a potential sugardaddy, boyfriend or husband.

Finally, Shanghai Noon's "peace offering" was no such thing.

Santa,

Maybe you got off easy, my initiation process hurt like hell I couldnt sit for a week!

PS Going to Shenzhen next week during the holidays, fancy meeting up for dinner? I looooved that dinner we had. Man I swear when going to Shenzhen must have a few seafood meals!
:P

**Round Two** · 04-24-07 17:52

Originally Posted by shanghai noon #2

"read" what he is saying. he gets paid back in one form or another. it could be money or it could be pussy. why would a scammer pay you back unless you did something for them?! duh...maybe you setup a newbie for them to scam, or you were stupid enough to let them scam you willingly like i witness at trl. either way, losers!

man, what could have set you off to write such things? i am not sure what went on that evening to make you feel this way, but i don't think ag needs any money from these girls or establishments. i don't think you should have continued to "play" with the gang or the "ugly" girls if you felt this way. you always had the option to express your thoughts right there and then. why didn't you do this? instead of just writing about it, you had a real chance to confront some "problems" that you may have seen with the people that you met.

the only thing that comes across when you post right now are that you have sour grapes. you might be trying to warn other isg members, but as clearly seen on this thread it's not being construed in that manner. i sometimes feel that trl and its bars are a scam, but i already know what i'm getting into when i visit. isg and its members actually do a good job of educating newcomers on what to expect from such places, at least for me.

some girls might be referred to as "freebies" in this forum, but none seem to be really free for me. after i graduated from high school and college, none of the ladies have been free for me--some give you an advance or credit on their kitties, others want cash up front. i guess girls have their own rules on giving out credit. i think ag has about an 800 credit rating in the trl/bbs/mp computers.

don't succumb to peer pressure and you won't have such hard feelings about anyone. just say "no" when you don't want to do something rather than making it sound like you were coerced into just following along for the sake of "playing along."

as for as bombing ag with insults, it might have been nicer to first pm him regarding your issues instead of making accusations on a public forum. i can personally vouch for ag when it comes to mongering and the general bar scene. he makes an extra effort to watch out for newcomers to make sure that they are not exploited by the vendors. i don't speak a single word of mandarin and he's introduced me to plenty of girls and plenty of fun. i must admit that i am not easy person when it comes to such "fun."

the only bad experience i had so far was when i used the services of someone else that is well known on this forum where money was paid and not all services were rendered. even that has been worked out with no more hard feelings.

**Ace Gallant** · 04-24-07 11:36