2007 South China - Dongguan

[Bill Lee]

We were in lockdown mode at Baby's at about 9:30 p.m. tonight. It lasted aobut 15 minutes. We didn't know we were locked in until I tried to exit the main room into the eating area. The door was locked, preventing me from leaving the shop. The mommies told us that it was not safe to leave the shop and asked us to wait patiently. One of the mommies said that LE was looking for girls without IDs.

Bill

[Bill Lee]

It wasn't a goosebump? Was it?

Bill

Actually, I prefer to give the gift that keeps on giving.....or at least that's what Bill Lee thinks!

Dan, I will be in town during that time, will hook-up with ya!

-CPE

BTW: Bill it was a joke

[Bill Lee]

Aside from being a Sunday with low normal turnouts by the girls, all the shops were low on supply. Been told by mommies that the Taiwan guys are in town for the four day holiday and taking most of the girls.

For the next couple of days, I suggest going to the shops earlier. I was there at around 5pm today.

Bill

[OldAsiaHand]

Gentlemen,

All of you have made good points. I have been going to CP off and on since 1995. A good friend hosted my bachelor party there in 1996. IMHO, the scene has remained pretty much the same over the years. Just more of it. One exception is that it has become much more lao wai friendly. The rejection rate was much higher in the old days.

I have to agree with BB's comment about the money. At the end of the day, that is all that matters to the mamas, the girls, the bosses behind the scenes, etc.

I also agree that if you patronize one particular (clever) mama often, she may, and I stress the word may, steer you in the right direction by recommending the girls that provide good service and tell her girls to make a better effort to serve you or, provide you a replacement if one of her girls is not up to par. But, this is just about getting more of your money. Ask any mama to give you your money back or give you something completely for free and see how far you get, regardless of your relationship with her. Even the one freebie mommy I had in CP for awhile asked me to pay for dinner, take her shopping and/or buy her some clothes.

I think we all know that most mamas will tell you anything to make the sale. Just arrived today, used to work in sauna, very obedient, pink color, etc. Whatever they think you want to hear.

The desire for money or fear of losing it, even if only from a few regular ISG members, is why a boycott works. I agree that it is only a fraction of their total business, but they do not want to leave any money on the table.
Of the 2 boycotts I supported, Sandy and the tree shop, the results in the end were satisfactory. That is not to say that they will not continue to try their bullshit on other customers, but at least not on those of us that supported the boycott.

Frankly, I think we sometimes give these people in the industry more credit than they deserve. We should not lose sight of who we are dealing with in pursuit of our hobby. FPF is my motto; fuck, pay, forget.

Just my POV.

OAH

P.S. Where's the pussy at?

[Old Mean Dog]

Why is CPE a mommyfucker???........ Cause he can. Hahaha. It's like that joke, .... Why do dogs lick their balls???.... Cause they can...

On a serious note, I think CPE is a cool guy who gives out red envelopes during the Chinese New Years to all his mommy friends and WGs. If I was there on Chinese New Years, he would give me one too, yeah, CPE??? Probably will have a condom in there or a vitimin V. Muahahaha!!!

Actually, I prefer to give the gift that keeps on giving.....or at least that's what Bill Lee thinks!

Dan, I will be in town during that time, will hook-up with ya!

-CPE

BTW: Bill it was a joke

[Dan Hawaii]

CPExpat is a mommyfucker!

Why is CPE a mommyfucker???........ Cause he can. Hahaha. It's like that joke, .... Why do dogs lick their balls???.... Cause they can...

On a serious note, I think CPE is a cool guy who gives out red envelopes during the Chinese New Years to all his mommy friends and WGs. If I was there on Chinese New Years, he would give me one too, yeah, CPE??? Probably will have a condom in there or a vitimin V. Muahahaha!!!

[Dan Hawaii]

Anyone going to be in CP town during these days, would like to have ktv parties and go bbs shopping together, please pm me. I'm travelling with 2 other friends from Hawaii and are meeting 3 other friends from San Fran and SZ.

The SF guys like Hui Mei Hotel, anyone can get corporate rates, please pm me, would really appreciate it by paying your way for a ktv party or dinner and beers.

I hope everyone happiness for the new year!!!

[Santa]

CPExpat is a mommyfucker!

[Bill Lee]

I know over half of the mommies by name at the Yalan corner and they know me as well. Why? Like anybody who frequents any place, you'll get to know the managers and the managers will know the customers' name and their likes and dislikes.

To assert that Homer is like AG is the worst analogy you can give. He doesn't brag about how many mommies he knows or he have close connection to them. It's just a fact that he knows that many mommies and he has a rapport with them.

If you take a girl from the same mommy two or three times here, you will get to know the mommy as well as we do. Do it often and long enough, you'll established the same rapport as CPE. It's no rocket science here.

And it's no rocket science that if you're in the area and there's LE activity, they will warn you to get out of the area.


Bill

[Santa]

CP,

You know why I compared you to AG you big bully. "I know all the mamas, I know all the KTV owners, blah blah....". Like I said I get a good laugh out of this forum.


Little Joe.

To be fair, CPexpat didn't say he knows all the ktv owners.

As for the mommies at that location, he did have a reputation for being on sexually intimate terms with them. It became a bit of a game and challenge for him to see how many mommies he could do. I then nick-named him Mommies Boy!

I also recently gave him the name Homer, because I think he looks and behaves like Homer Simpson.

To be fair to AG also, I think he does collect the mommies phone numbers, remembers them by name and calls them up for a chat, just like they are old friends.

When I go in a shop I stare at the girls like a sex starved fucking zombie and I ignore the mommies. I can't remember one mommy from the other.

[Old Mean Dog]

CP,

You know why I compared you to AG you big bully. "I know all the mamas, I know all the KTV owners, blah blah....". Like I said I get a good laugh out of this forum.

As to assuming that I have not been to CP, I've been going there over 10 years before you set foot there but as its not on my normal route anymore and I have been able to find OK BBS and KTVs talent thats closer I don't need to go the extra mile. This brings me back to someone's comments that BBSs will be phased out in CP in the near future. In Southern China, the mongering hotspots move after a few years. The popularity of CP increased with the number of golf courses, motorway, direct train and better hotels. From what my mongering friends have told me the quality of the gals is almost the same as where I am already going but you pay a premium for the decor in the KTVs

Little Joe.

Hey Phone Slinger,

Come on up to CP and I'll even buy you a pair of reading glasses, because you certainly need them! What does me having a few friends and fecking a few of the mommies have to do with me being a big bully? I personally dislike KTV's so I have no contacts there....try Moody or Dan Hawaii

I do live in CP and pull 2-3 girls a week from the shops and I was coming to CP every weekend for a year prior to moving here, so yeah, I do know some people here. Quit sounding like your jealous that a non-Chinese person can know some people in CP on a personal level.

I never said you were a newbie to CP, hell you are probably an old hand here.

-CPE

[Bob Builder]

Hey Hoss, not sure what comparisons you seem to want to make between me and AG, put I can prove what I say here, come on up to CP and I'll introduce you to the mommies.

Actually Bob, if you keep tabs on the DG thread, you would have known that it used to be a running joke that I fecked a few of the mommies here. The objective was not to "toot my own horn", it was to comment about your post, that even if we do make a small % of mongers in China, we actually do have some impact in CP and many of the guys are well known by the staff at KTV's, Sauna's and BBS's.

-CPE

CP,

You know why I compared you to AG you big bully. "I know all the mamas, I know all the KTV owners, blah blah....". Like I said I get a good laugh out of this forum.

As to assuming that I have not been to CP, I've been going there over 10 years before you set foot there but as its not on my normal route anymore and I have been able to find OK BBS and KTVs talent thats closer I don't need to go the extra mile. This brings me back to someone's comments that BBSs will be phased out in CP in the near future. In Southern China, the mongering hotspots move after a few years. The popularity of CP increased with the number of golf courses, motorway, direct train and better hotels. From what my mongering friends have told me the quality of the gals is almost the same as where I am already going but you pay a premium for the decor in the KTVs

Little Joe.

[Old Mean Dog]

CPE,

LOL, you are sounding more like AG every day and you were the one for giving him crap for making comments like this. Sorry Hoss, I'll make sure that I stay of CP as I'm sure that it is not big enough for both of us. Maybe I'll sitck my little tail between my legs and ask Mr. J for my own thread. Nah, I'm not that thin skinned and this forum is always good for a laugh.

BB.


As far as I know if the gal is a good earner she will be still around but if not she will be gone. Sooner or later the gal will be gone anway. Whether it is because of you or that her business drops off, how can you really tell. I normally have a good rapport with gals I get and sometimes ask what happens to other gals and the story is almost never the same as the mamas. Most gals move on after a few months anyways where they go to another shop in another town where the mama introduces them as "just arrived and fresh off the bus from up north or just finished at some factory in Dongguan"

Hey Hoss, not sure what comparisons you seem to want to make between me and AG, put I can prove what I say here, come on up to CP and I'll introduce you to the mommies.

Actually Bob, if you keep tabs on the DG thread, you would have known that it used to be a running joke that I fecked a few of the mommies here. The objective was not to "toot my own horn", it was to comment about your post, that even if we do make a small % of mongers in China, we actually do have some impact in CP and many of the guys are well known by the staff at KTV's, Sauna's and BBS's.

-CPE

[Bill Lee]

BB, you have to explain to us why CPE sounds like AG?

Our little Homer (CPE) is the furtherest thing from AG. So why does he sound like AG at all?

Bill

CPE,

LOL, you are sounding more like AG every day and you were the one for giving him crap for making comments like this. Sorry Hoss, I'll make sure that I stay of CP as I'm sure that it is not big enough for both of us. Maybe I'll sitck my little tail between my legs and ask Mr. J for my own thread. Nah, I'm not that thin skinned and this forum is always good for a laugh.

BB.

[Bill Lee]

It's the third day and she's the talk the section of the room of where I picked her from. The mommies has apologized to me many times and one offered fruits as a gift. It's doubtful she will return to that shop at all. The main mommy believe it or not has offered to repay any money she stole. I doubt that's going happen if real money was missing.

If I see her at another CP shop, I will definitely point her out to the mommy and customers.

Real earning girls probably do not have to steal but those at the low end or in the middle of the pickings will have to resort to additional means to survive.

Needless to say, when a customer is right, even the money-hungry mommies will understand what's good for business.

Bill