2007 South China - Dongguan

[Rickyeoh99]

If you're looking for GFE, saunas are not the place to go. Try the KTV at the Sheraton. There's a huge YMMV factor with KTV girls, but you'll have a much better chance of finding GFE there than at a sauna.

BTW, you might want to try the Kande Club sauna behind the Sheraton near the McDonald's. Service there was on average better than at the Sheraton.

Moody is right about getting GFE with KTV girls as you would be spending more time with her prior to the action. However, one may need to communicate with girl for the girl to comfortable with you. I assume Importer may not be well verse with Mandarin or even Cantonese.

I heard about the Kande Club Hotel's suana when I was on my way back to HK earlier month. The driver told me it is the best suana in Houjie. Maybe I will try it the next time.

[RasSpewtin]

I can echo the sentiment that KTV girls are much more likely to provide GFE than sauna girls. To my experience in Zhuhai, it is virtually impossible to find GFE with a sauna girl. They will not do kissy-kissy with you, and very few will let you DATY (and you probably shouldn’t DATY them anyway, although you will see that I did recently if you check the Zhuhai thread).

And if you think about it, it all makes sense. The sauna girls experience a lot more tunnel traffic than their KTV sisters. A sauna girl at a place like DMY can easily service 5 to 10 guys a day if she is popular. It would be a real stretch of the imagination to perceive that any or all of her customers would be to her genuine liking. A KTV girl is typically limited to a maximum of one tunnel trip per day, assuming that she is chosen from the lineup and the guy actually decides to pay for her LT. So there is a real chance that she will actually have a chance to spend time having fun and talking with the guy, and thus develop some genuine affection for him. This will translate to more GFE fun in the sack for sure.

One of my best experiences over the past year was with a girl from my favorite KTV place thus far, at the Hui Mei in CP. I was with a girl that had a Marilyn Monroe-type body, and a pretty enough face. Moody, OAH, and others witnessed us spending the entire night necking like horny teenagers in a corner of the KTV room. She was fun loving, open, and very tolerant of my half-assed language skills in Mandarin. She was happy when I asked her to come with me, and even agreed to stay long time for only 500 (should have been 800, but I came short-changed that night, and a buddy bailed me out with a loan). She was over-the-top GFE that night, with an occasional side dish of PSE.

Although I cannot go that often to KTV, I really enjoy places like the Hui Mei. Experiences like this you can never find in a sauna, although saunas can be fun in a quick-and-dirty kind of way.

Raz

If you're looking for GFE, saunas are not the place to go. Try the KTV at the Sheraton. There's a huge YMMV factor with KTV girls, but you'll have a much better chance of finding GFE there than at a sauna.

BTW, you might want to try the Kande Club sauna behind the Sheraton near the McDonald's. Service there was on average better than at the Sheraton.

[Moody]

Arrived in Houjie off my overnight flight very tired, but very optimistic about the next six nights of mongering.

Started with floor -1 at the Sheraton, asked for the Manager by name that i had met previously. Was taken up by lift to floor seven went to the right which is the back side of the hotel. Was sat down in room shoes removed, tv turned on. I was not interested in tv i just wanted to see the line up. First line up was not to my liking so i got another one, chose a lady in black lingerie.She did not speak a word of english, and this choice saw me start my mongering trip on a low point. I didnt get her name or number, and to be honest i would not want it. Sorry for my attitude it wont help others from avoiding this lady.

My choice was probably at best a 7 about 21 years old with meduim rack, first into showers no action in there. Moved onto bed no kissing, no daty, no cat bath, no ar, no liquids. Started to think to myself i might as well go home, she was really not the gfe. Anyway the best i got was cbj, followed by instant motions for her to get on top which she did. I did it as hard as i could as i felt she was uncomfortable with my size. When completion was achieved we went straight in the showers,and out the door i was thinking i paid 1168rmb for that which in my opinion was not good value for money.

I went back to my hotel room feeling very low, and wondering what tomorrow night would bring!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

If you're looking for GFE, saunas are not the place to go. Try the KTV at the Sheraton. There's a huge YMMV factor with KTV girls, but you'll have a much better chance of finding GFE there than at a sauna.

BTW, you might want to try the Kande Club sauna behind the Sheraton near the McDonald's. Service there was on average better than at the Sheraton.

[Old Mean Dog]

Suppliers in Yalan are exerting upward price pressure on our favorite commodity. It is even more prudent now than before to not make any assumptions about the fee structure. When first questioned, many of the mamas in Swan Lake are quoting 100 to them and 150 to the girl, total 250. When pressed, they revert to 200, with an extra 50 as a tip for good service. The girl I was with yesterday asked for 150 when she left, but backed down when I reminded her of my agreement with her mama. So the best advice is to be very specific about prices.

Yeah, reports have it that some of the laowai out there are passing around RMB like its candy. Normally, the max for a laowai is 200 rmb (100 mom/100 girl), but I am hearing some are giving the girls 2, 3, and 400 rmb for ST.....

If you feel guilty; Retire from mongering and go home to your wife.
If you feel shame; Then fuck older prostitutes!
If you feel you are doing them a favor or helping them; Your not!
If you feel indebted; Then you got some serious personal issues.

My Pov

-SZE

BTW: Girls from the Swan Lake will "try" to get more money from you because they say they are a KTV and the girls get higher fees......BS, SL is a brothel posing as a KTV.

[Arctic1]

Suppliers in Yalan are exerting upward price pressure on our favorite commodity. It is even more prudent now than before to not make any assumptions about the fee structure. When first questioned, many of the mamas in Swan Lake are quoting 100 to them and 150 to the girl, total 250. When pressed, they revert to 200, with an extra 50 as a tip for good service. The girl I was with yesterday asked for 150 when she left, but backed down when I reminded her of my agreement with her mama. So the best advice is to be very specific about prices.

[The Importer]

Arrived in Houjie off my overnight flight very tired, but very optimistic about the next six nights of mongering.

Started with floor -1 at the Sheraton, asked for the Manager by name that i had met previously. Was taken up by lift to floor seven went to the right which is the back side of the hotel. Was sat down in room shoes removed, tv turned on. I was not interested in tv i just wanted to see the line up. First line up was not to my liking so i got another one, chose a lady in black lingerie.She did not speak a word of english, and this choice saw me start my mongering trip on a low point. I didnt get her name or number, and to be honest i would not want it. Sorry for my attitude it wont help others from avoiding this lady.

My choice was probably at best a 7 about 21 years old with meduim rack, first into showers no action in there. Moved onto bed no kissing, no daty, no cat bath, no ar, no liquids. Started to think to myself i might as well go home, she was really not the gfe. Anyway the best i got was cbj, followed by instant motions for her to get on top which she did. I did it as hard as i could as i felt she was uncomfortable with my size. When completion was achieved we went straight in the showers,and out the door i was thinking i paid 1168rmb for that which in my opinion was not good value for money.

I went back to my hotel room feeling very low, and wondering what tomorrow night would bring!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

[The Importer]

The Importer,

JK666 posted his theory on the ZH thread which I agree with totally. Sauna girls will only provide the minimum to punters that they think do not know what to expect. For example, if you do not know that multiple pops are OK, you will only get one. If you do not know what all the liquids are for, they will not use them. This is especially true for laowai punters.

BTW, I thought the highest price for the top end was only 900 RMB. If my memory serves, there were 3 price levels. What color gown was she wearing?

OAH

OAH,

To date i have found this theory to be correct, i have just arrived back home from six days in Houjie. I have used the Sheraton sauna service a further five times, not once receiving a cat bath, ar, or any liquids. I did receive the full sauna service at the Kande Club though.

As for the gown colour colour it may have been red! Every Sheraton line up i saw last week wore a peach colour gown. The lingerie could be the answer white was a student, red medium and black most expensive is the conclusion i came too.

I will post reports on the highs and lows of Houjie in the next few days, maybe you can give me some of your experienced feedback about some of the lows i encountered.

The Importer

[Fast Eddie 48]

For me, Fridays and Saturdays are the worst days for actions. Because I normally stay in CP for 2-3 weeks at a time, I often take rest on Fridays and Saturdays and just go foot/body massage. If you want undivided attention and overnight service, the best days are Sun-Thu. Why compete against thousands of HK fun-seekers when you don't have to?

To JWTONG,

I was in CP last weekend and there are alot of girl at Swan Lake on Saturday around 4 pm. You just need to go there early. If you go after 8pm most hot girl will be gone.

I also checked out Yalan area and the quality is going downhill. During the 3 days in CP all the girls that I pick were from Swanlake. The young one on Saturday is the hottest but with attuide and very rushed, and the other 2 that I got the next two nights were very GFE.

Fast eddie 48

[OldAsiaHand]

Jwtong:

Most of the time, if she agrees to do it, the price is the same. This has always been the case in CP. On the other hand, I had one girl in SZ a couple of weeks ago that asked me for 50 RMB more.

OAH

The two times I had CIM (with different MM and 6 months apart) in CP, I was charged $50-$100 more each time. Are you asked to pay more?

[Jwtong]

This is prime-time Saturday evening. She would no longer agree to DATY, as we had discussed at Swan Lake. So I booted her, none too politely.

For me, Fridays and Saturdays are the worst days for actions. Because I normally stay in CP for 2-3 weeks at a time, I often take rest on Fridays and Saturdays and just go foot/body massage. If you want undivided attention and overnight service, the best days are Sun-Thu. Why compete against thousands of HK fun-seekers when you don't have to?

[Moody]

The two times I had CIM (with different MM and 6 months apart) in CP, I was charged $50-$100 more each time. Are you asked to pay more?

I've had it a few times. They didn't ask me for more. One of 'em wanted to kiss me right afterwards which I didn't really go for.

[Arctic1]

Yesterday (Saturday) I took a pretty 19-year-old girl from Swan Lake Hotel in Yalan. In the company of a couple of fellow aficionados, I visited at least two places in Yalan before choosing. Actually I would have taken a girl at the first spot, but Santa wanted to move on. (The taxi driver had attached himself to us like a leech, soliciting a commission from the first place.) Anyway, the Swan Lake girl seemed like a pistol. We all three took girls from Swan Lake. You know, they are dressed in only transparent gowns, bra and panties visible, so a change of clothes is necessary for them to go onto the street. We are driving back to the Lucky when my girl begins suggesting we all six, or at least four, do it together in one room. No body is really game, so we drop two couples at the Lucky and then the two of us proceed to the Miraton. In the room, she stripped and showered, then she changed her attitude. She became very take-charge, in the worst sense, like she wanted to rush. This is prime-time Saturday evening. She would no longer agree to DATY, as we had discussed at Swan Lake. So I booted her, none too politely.

[OldAsiaHand]

The Importer,

JK666 posted his theory on the ZH thread which I agree with totally. Sauna girls will only provide the minimum to punters that they think do not know what to expect. For example, if you do not know that multiple pops are OK, you will only get one. If you do not know what all the liquids are for, they will not use them. This is especially true for laowai punters.

BTW, I thought the highest price for the top end was only 900 RMB. If my memory serves, there were 3 price levels. What color gown was she wearing?

OAH

[Jwtong]

I finally broke out of my "poor service" rut with a Yalan girl. I told the mama that I wanted CIM.

The two times I had CIM (with different MM and 6 months apart) in CP, I was charged $50-$100 more each time. Are you asked to pay more?

[The Importer]

I happened to be staying at the Sheraton back in March 07, had walked up and down the street opposite no action. Went back to my room looked on the internet found the forum. After one hour of rttf i decided to visit floor -1.

Swiftly made my way to lift -1 can only be found on right side as you enter Hotel from front. When arriving at my destination turned left hoping to find the correct place i was looking for. Initially i was coming up against resistance, as i have no mandarin skills. If you want something bad enough there is always a way, got to see the manager i have his card.

I was sat down in the foot massage area for a short discussion, then taken through to a smaller room for the line up. I had a line up of nine ladies seven at 900rmb, two at 1168rmb rating between 7 and 9. I picked Zuo ran age 21 sorry no number, she was a 9 very pretty at 1168rmb.

She visited me in my Hotel room for 90 minutes, started with showers no action in there. Moved onto bed got a short back massage, i wanted her facing me she was so pretty. The service was not as good as i have read in this forum, she was quite gfe she did the minimum possible without really disapointing me. Was allowed kissing on lips,daty,short bbbj, and she did cowgirl position to completion, she was really very tight which was nice.

Watched her walk down hallway when she left my room , she was wearing a knee length gown which didnt seem to be enough to be walking around the Sheraton in.