2007 South China - Dongguan

[Bob Builder]

There seems to be a worrying trend that when places in Southern China become more foreigner friendly as reported by this forum almost always it is about the time that it is about to sound its death knell.

I'm really relieved that all the foreigners are flocking to CP where all the gals are Lao Wei friendly and speak good English. Avoid Shenzhen at all costs. CP is the place to be.

Now if only those BSD ABCs who are sick of posing around Lan Kwai Fong, paying HK$60 for a drink and not getting laid who have discovered Shenzhen would only go to CP as well.

[SE Asia Joe]

IMy eyes are seeing major changes here in the 1 1/2 years I have been coming to CP. Quite possibly as just a tourist coming in on the weekends to party, I really did not pay much attention to the changes, but living here now, I see it all the time.

CP as we know it will not be the same CP in 2-3 years.


Enjoy it while you can,

-CPE

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So CPE - can we task you with discovering a replacement paradise for us?!
I mean - CP is getting developed but then there are other "up and coming" localities? Howzabout you others?
SEAJ

[Softy]

I know many of you "old timers" to CP contest that things will remain the same here and that nothing will change, but I on the other hand disagree.

My eyes are seeing major changes here in the 1 1/2 years I have been coming to CP. Quite possibly as just a tourist coming in on the weekends to party, I really did not pay much attention to the changes, but living here now, I see it all the time.

CP as we know it will not be the same CP in 2-3 years. I know I am not Chinese, nor am I a seasoned CP vet, but it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that little, backwater, wild west CP wants to get away from that image and it's happening fast.

Lets take for example the railway station (The GZ-SZ-HK one) that everyone is familiar with. The internal portions of the station are being repaired, no longer will the taxi pirates assault you when you depart the area, a formal walled taxi lane is being built, the parking lot is being resurfaced, the station now has a McDonalds and a 7-11, I also just noticed today when going to Shenzhen, they are planting trees, and bushes where there was once just dirt, they are prepping the second floor of the station for some storefronts, and the main exterior plaza is under construction. This does not even take into consideration the brand new bus station and shopping arcade being built next to it.

I know some will say so what?? or those that have pussy tunnel vision will not even notice things like this, Starbucks, 6 lane roads, no motorcycles downtown, city taxis and buses now and high end shops and restaurants going up.

If I was a gambling man, I would bet the BBS's and xiaojies so abundant here, will be a thing of the past soon. As stated in another post, it will remain, but take on a new look, called more KTV's and massage joints just like SZ.

Enjoy it while you can,

-CPE

BTW: Pulled me a nice 18 year old Sichuan sweetie last night from the Yalan area, excellent skills and fresh meat. Also notice the "lack" of mommies around the Hui Mei area, this is several nights in a row I have observed this.

CP...

I have only been to CP twice. I have spent quite a bit of time in China, however, over the past 25 years. My impressions from my limited experience in CP is that the current mongering environment was not long for this world as well. That conclusion was not drawn from comparative experience from CP over time, rather my interaction with the locals who seem quite annoyed by the street action. I would have to conclude, then, that CP will become more KTV and Suana oriented if it remains a prime mongering destination.

[Old Mean Dog]

I know many of you "old timers" to CP contest that things will remain the same here and that nothing will change, but I on the other hand disagree.

My eyes are seeing major changes here in the 1 1/2 years I have been coming to CP. Quite possibly as just a tourist coming in on the weekends to party, I really did not pay much attention to the changes, but living here now, I see it all the time.

CP as we know it will not be the same CP in 2-3 years. I know I am not Chinese, nor am I a seasoned CP vet, but it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that little, backwater, wild west CP wants to get away from that image and it's happening fast.

Lets take for example the railway station (The GZ-SZ-HK one) that everyone is familiar with. The internal portions of the station are being repaired, no longer will the taxi pirates assault you when you depart the area, a formal walled taxi lane is being built, the parking lot is being resurfaced, the station now has a McDonalds and a 7-11, I also just noticed today when going to Shenzhen, they are planting trees, and bushes where there was once just dirt, they are prepping the second floor of the station for some storefronts, and the main exterior plaza is under construction. This does not even take into consideration the brand new bus station and shopping arcade being built next to it.

I know some will say so what?? or those that have pussy tunnel vision will not even notice things like this, Starbucks, 6 lane roads, no motorcycles downtown, city taxis and buses now and high end shops and restaurants going up.

If I was a gambling man, I would bet the BBS's and xiaojies so abundant here, will be a thing of the past soon. As stated in another post, it will remain, but take on a new look, called more KTV's and massage joints just like SZ.

Enjoy it while you can,

-CPE

BTW: Pulled me a nice 18 year old Sichuan sweetie last night from the Yalan area, excellent skills and fresh meat. Also notice the "lack" of mommies around the Hui Mei area, this is several nights in a row I have observed this.

[Old Mean Dog]

I'll be heading to Chang Ping about 2 days from now. If any of you are in Dongguan, message me and I'll buy you beer for your kindness in showing me the local action. Otherwise I'll find it on my own.



Dar

If you just say hi to the foreigners on the street in CP, I would safely bet 95% of them are gonna be Mongers and probably 94.5% of those are from ISG.

I am always around, PM me when you arrive.

-CPE

[Dar425]

I'll be heading to Chang Ping about 2 days from now. If any of you are in Dongguan, message me and I'll buy you beer for your kindness in showing me the local action. Otherwise I'll find it on my own.



Dar

[Moody]

Another question for you veterans: do I just pay 48 x 4 = 192 to the shop to pull her out for 4 hours and try my luck at charming her? Is there a way to pull her out for the whole day without paying for every single hour? I sense that this could be much more fun than just paying a bored-looking or fakey KTV girl.

Even if I don't get #91 into bed, I'm sure all the flirting and playing around will be loads of fun! Looks like I may have to sign up as CPExpat's apprentice.

Yes, if you pull her out for 4 hours, you would have to pay her 48x4=192. Usually though, they have a discount package and you can buy one of those and use those coupons to buy her out. As for pulling her out all day.... you'll have to talk to her about that. The girls have days off and it's up to her whether she wants to spend it with you.

[Nakameguro97]

Woke up at 10AM this morning and made a beeline to the footies. As noted in a previous report, the address to this place is Hua Yuen Shin Tsei North No. 16 (the Chinese characters are flower-park-new-street No. 16) in Tangxia. I made a 15 minute beeline by taxi to the footies with #91 on my mind. I got there around 11:30AM. Apparently #91 wouldn't be in until 2PM. Well, I told them to get me a girl now and I'll get #91 later. Shuddering with the thought of having to reject a pudgy FOF (Fresh-Off-the-Farm) like I saw yesterday, I waited, and waited, and waited.

In walks #20, a 9 from up north. She was chatty and easy to flirt with. Found out she was 24 and has two older brothers. Kind of a tomboy. I got her to ask the boss about the take-out fee. Apparently, it was 7x along with the 1x for the foot massage for a total of RMB320. I paid, and off we went. A side-note: to pull this off, you prolly need some decent Mandarin. I was speaking to her in broken Mandarin for about 97%+ of the time. Along the way back, we spent a couple hours climbing a nearby mountain and even played some carnival games and went through a haunted house. I felt like a teenager again on a date. We came back to the Goodview Tangxia, had lunch here around 3:30PM, after which we went back to my room to rest for a while. Then she sat on the sofa and turned on the TV. Not a good sign, at all! By this time, I had so much fun with her, I was getting blue balls. DAMN! Nothing worked beyond this. I grew tired and disinterested. She saw this and suggested that I take a nap while she goes back to work. So I gave her RMB 50 for the taxi ride back. It was obvious towards the end that this one is experienced and was just working me. I used to have a girlfriend like this in Japan, where she would treat you great, flirt with you, but leave you aching below the belt. LESSON LEARNED: the young, inexperienced footies below 18-19 may be a better bet. The older ones may be juicing the system, but I don't blame them because I'm doing the same from the other side. Going after footies is like half way between mongering and nampa.

Well, I have a solution for blue balls. I headed down to the Goodview Tangxia 1F SAUNA and asked for Ms. Yo-Nan-Nan, 13560829050, the manager who helped me out the other night. The good rooms with the stone tables were full, so I went back to my room and waited for 30min. I got a call 15min later and down I went. At 5:30PM, there was a lineup of 4, ranging from 7-10. I took a 19yo #229 from Hubei FACE: 10 BODY: 9. 5 (big nipples and perfectly thin body, but.0. 5 for a scar on the right hand side from some childhood operation) SERVICE: 8 (she appeared new and wasn't as PRO as #228), but I have to give her FRESHNESS: 9. 5. Overall, she was a 9+. I'm a picky SOB and both times, the Goodview Sauna delivers 9+'s in the first lineup.

This was a very satisfying ending to my 16yr mongering career. My curiosity has been satisfied and my thirst for young ones quenched. Spending time researching engagement rings interests me now more than continuing to monger. I will post another message or two before turning out the lights.

Let's monger safely out there.

[Nakameguro97]

Yup - I agree with DH 100% that the sauna girls are the best. Usually, I enjoy the sauna facilities, especially with a pro who knows what she is doing - the stone table is GREAT at the Goodview Tangxia. The Sauna charge appears to be high here at RMB398 so I think you are right - there is potential to save a lot of moolah on the fresh, inexperienced ones who don't know what to do with the "equipment" anyways.

Hey, Nakameguro, maybe you should ask for an in-room sauna girl service, because you are/were staying in the hotel. Then you would not have to pay for the sauna room charge. I know the Miraton hotel only charges 100 rmb for sauna girl room service, plus girl fee. Might save you a couple of hundred rmb, unless you like the sauna facility. And you know sauna girls, they are the best, most experienced providers on the planet.

[Dan Hawaii]

OK - a couple blurry photos taken with my phone camera. Ain't much but better than nuthin?
Se Asia

I know where that is, you must of had fun there huh, Joe. Don't want to say the name and bring them heat. I want to go there in January, so please, nobody say what place that is. Thank you.

[Dan Hawaii]

*cough*, *cough*

ahum, OAH, the report does say that Nakameguro was staying in the Goodview hotel in Tangxia, which is a 5/6 star hotel. Assuming they really got him a regular KTV girl (and not a BBS girl from a nearby shop), the price seems about right. KTV girls are 2-5-8, maybe higher at Goodview. And the bellboy needs his cut.

Agreed though that the requested 300 rmb tip for the bellboy is pure BS. As OAH pointed out, he gets his cut from the girl-fee already. You may want to tip him 50/100 rmb if you want to keep him on your good side, and make him run all kinds of errands for you.

I'm pretty certain, from my last trip to Goodview ktv in October, the ktv girl price is 2-5-8. I never had in call service, so I can not comment on the price, but 600 sounds alittle high. Being that the price is 500rmb for the ST ktv, and the girl does not have to sit around, entertain, and drink for hours in the ktv room. In addition, if she is from the ktv, she can go to work later that evening and make more money . But a contra arguement would be that the ktv will not make money from you (drinks, room, dj, etc...), so that is why they up the girl fee.

Hey, Nakameguro, maybe you should ask for an in-room sauna girl service, because you are/were staying in the hotel. Then you would not have to pay for the sauna room charge. I know the Miraton hotel only charges 100 rmb for sauna girl room service, plus girl fee. Might save you a couple of hundred rmb, unless you like the sauna facility. And you know sauna girls, they are the best, most experienced providers on the planet.

[Donsat]

I am in CP for 3 days, I looking for guys to hang out with. Goto KTV and show me local area action. PM

[Nakameguro97]

Thx to OAH and Wadman for their generous input. Turns out that Wadman's insight was on the mark. I saw that tricky little wench at the KTV late tonite. Getting a little bored after 11PM, I went down to the KTV bar for a Tsingtao. As expected, mostly duds, but I did see some mongers with hotties, but that just confirms what RTFF has shown over and over again: you have to be there before 7PM to catch the hotties.

But I'm writing ahead of myself. Turn the clock back eight hours or so. After being thoroughly drained by last night's session at the Tangxia Goodview Sauna, I decided to get a body scrub, a facial (to make the gf happy), and a legit massage at the SPA so I'd have some stories to tell and not raise any suspicions "at home". A small distinction to correct yesterday's post: the SAUNA is actually on 1F and 2F, while the SPA is on 2F. You know you are at the SAUNA (monger land) when you see a short list of RMB398 prices for various rooms. The SPA is where you bring your real gf to do Julie's Premium Aromatherapy Massage for 680 or the Firming Body Wrap Treatment for 380. Of course, if you have balls of steel, you can SIMULTANEOUSLY send her to the Heartfelt Experience in the SPA for 1080, lasting 210 minutes on 2F while you sneak yourself down onto 1F SAUNA for your own COCKfelt Experience with a 17yo from Harbin for a blissful 898 120min session. But my< balls ain't that big. Where else can you make your gf happy at the same time as you fill your desires SEPARATELY? ! ? But I take no responsibility if the gf's so happy later on that she wants to pay you back and can't figure why she can't get you hard.

After around 3 hours at ths SPA, I befriended the 5. 5 masseuse (not worth the chase) named Amy and asked her to have dinner outside the Goodview as I was getting a little bored after two days. Earlier in the morning, I did take the hotel bus to Tangxia's Zhangmutou Station, but the stench and dirtiness was so bad that I had to take the same bus back after a 15min walk. It was just a nasty area. Felt like the BBS area behind Seibu in Shenzhen except this was in the wide open with garbage everywhere and puddles of who-knows-what (I certainly don't want to know) creating an inescapable stench. No, we are not at the Goodview any more.

Back to the Tour-de-Tangxia. Amy and I ended up going to a Korean Yakiniku place about a 15min ride from Goodview and had some Cold Noodles and Kimchi fried rice with our Yakiniku. Being well aware of the hazards of eating in China, I asked her to bring to me to a clean place. This one had a Japanese boss, so I figured it shouldn't be too bad. After dinner, we walked along a street called Hua Yuen Shin Tsei? . Apologies. Can't type in pingyin so I'm typing in Kanji that second character should have the Yuen/money character inside the box, but it's the same character. Just change it to simplified. She pointed out various restaurants when I mentioned to her that I never did a foot massage. She smiled and told me we can go to the one right down the street on Hua Yuen Shin Tsei North No. 16? 16? In Tangxia Town. This is a nice, big and clean foot massage place with a big yellow sign and black letters.

Amy tried getting two of her friends to do our massage. I wonder if she saw the disappointment on my face when I heard her describing one of her friends as a little Pan or fat. No one knows names. Just numbers, she was trying to id them through various ways. I insisted that it would be okay if we didn't see her friends. Well, we finally got stuck in a room with 3 reclining couches and a flatscreen. She told me to take the middle seat while she took the left. Two masseuses came in. A dopey looking chubby one who looks like she just hopped off the farmcart, and another with a hot 9. 5 face. DAMN! It quickly became obvious why CPExpat is so much into footies.

But WTF! Monger's karma isn't on my side, as I get dumped with the dopey country girl. At this point, some quick thinking was in order.

Amy started asking me what I would like to watch. I told her I didn't understand anything so why doesn't she take the middle seat so she can see the TV better, while I go for the left seat? She was reluctant at first, as I was the guest, but I told her it was all right. See what happens when you are a gentleman? "Fate" swaps your chubby homey country gal for a hottie 9. 5. As it was too much trouble for the two masseuses to switch places, poor old me was left with the 9. 5. I love it when a plan comes together! (Apologies to the cigar chugging Hannibal) An aside for those familiar with financial options: the middle seat is essentially a "free option". If you get the hottie, you let your option expire. If you get the fugly one, exercise your option by insisting on giving up your better seat to your friend. This obviously doesn't work if you get stuck in the side seat with an ugly one or if your host/hostess is a GUY and is definitely up on your switcheroo.

Well, 9. 5 hottie #91 sure knows how to flirt. When she noticed me staring at her, she had no qualms about looking right back at me with her big eyes. God I was hooked. The total damage was RMB 96 for two people. I wanted to signal my interest in #91 if it wasn't obvious enough already, but I ran out of small bills, so I gave her a ratty old 20. Apologies for jacking up the prices for any of our local mongers, but it should not be much impact as this is a bit out-of-the-way. Tomorrow, Amy will be going to Shenzhen, so I will give it a shot and see if I can pull #91 out of the massage parlor. What's great is, I could tell #91 was pretty sharp and nothing bores me quicker than a bubblehead.

Another question for you veterans: do I just pay 48 x 4 = 192 to the shop to pull her out for 4 hours and try my luck at charming her? Is there a way to pull her out for the whole day without paying for every single hour? I sense that this could be much more fun than just paying a bored-looking or fakey KTV girl.

Even if I don't get #91 into bed, I'm sure all the flirting and playing around will be loads of fun! Looks like I may have to sign up as CPExpat's apprentice.

*cough*, *cough*

ahum, OAH, the report does say that Nakameguro was staying in the Goodview hotel in Tangxia, which is a 5/6 star hotel. Assuming they really got him a regular KTV girl (and not a BBS girl from a nearby shop), the price seems about right. KTV girls are 2-5-8, maybe higher at Goodview. And the bellboy needs his cut.

Agreed though that the requested 300 rmb tip for the bellboy is pure BS. As OAH pointed out, he gets his cut from the girl-fee already. You may want to tip him 50/100 rmb if you want to keep him on your good side, and make him run all kinds of errands for you.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

[Old Mean Dog]

OK - a couple blurry photos taken with my phone camera. Ain't much but better than nuthin?
Se Asia

That dude in the red shirt (even with the little black cloud for a face) has been seen all over CP. Recommend he buy a few other color t-shirts so he is not so recognizable.

Side note on a couple of KTV's I have been to recently:

The Virgin to me, kinda sucks ass. The rooms are ok, think ours was around 1100 rmb, but the quality of girls was lame. I will admit I did a lineup on a Friday around 8, so that was my bad, but the ones left over, I wouldn't have even paid 200 for.

Miraton KTV: Nice Rooms, good service, but once again, after running through about 50 gals, none were real stunners and to top it off, one of the guys in the party, choose a girl who was/is a BBS girl! I know, becuase I have banged her before. So, either her pussy cost 300 more that night, or they are now hiring locals from the shops to increase their inventory. Anyway, 200 sit down fee I did, but felt it was a waste of money to take average jill home.

My PoV,
-CPE

[Pointpanic]

SE Asia Joe,

Nice camera work. Your first pic gives the true essence of our favorite Recreation Center after half the girls have been picked and your second looks to be towards the end of the selection with the remainder of the four lines now against the wall at some time probably after 8 pm. Lets hope your photos don't end up in some newspaper but then again they are just nice KTV hostesses! hehehe.

Way to go Joe!

WaikikiBob

OK - a couple blurry photos taken with my phone camera. Ain't much but better than nuthin?
Se Asia