2007 South China - Dongguan

[Nynyny]

I've read through the last 25 pages of the Dongguan thread and there is a ton of information spread out. I'm planning to travel into CP from Beijing on March 7th by flying into Shenzen. I read on this thread a taxi should cost about $150 RMB and take about 30 minutes. The confusing part about this thread is the mention of several hot areas with girls available.

I see that there are three areas involved, Dongguan, Changping and Houjie. A quick google shows that Dongguan is the city and Changping and Houjie are districts.

This thread points to several recent locations:

Golden Lake Hotel, Tangxia
Li-Hwa hotel
Sheraton KTV
Cinese 7th floor
Crown Prince Hotel Sauna Building
Amazon Flower Market?
Hui Mei KTV
Yalan Hotel
Miraton Hotel
Jia Yi KTV

Unlike Shenzen of Beijing, where one to three areas are primarily discussed, Dongguan locations are very spread out. I am planning on staying in CP for a week to relax and take in as many high quality 9-10 range girls as possible.

Ideally I need to map out a plan and visit places that have 100 girls plus at a time. BBS has never been my thing since its hit or miss to find those high quality girls. KTV's are tricky by youself, so the main places I like to visit are hotels where the girls are available for viewing up-front or at a general bar area.

I've written some detailed reviews on massage girls in Beijing and would like to do the same with the girls of CP.

With all the locations listed can anyone with experience recommend a strategy?

I was thinking of staying at Jia Yi since the most recent post mentions that the rooms are nice and next to a KTV with 600+ girls. Recent reports also all center around the Yalan or Miraton Hotel. Is anyone free around March 2nd?

[Bnlee2]

if you monger want to see an awesome line up , go to Jia Yi KTV, they opened up last november. Awesome 600+ girl lineup dress to kill. they are lined up in four rows about a hundred fifty girls per row. the gaunlet walkng down is quite narrow, maybe at best four or five week wide. Mommy's and girls grabbing you from all sides. It is unbelievable. Like the old Amazon KTV routines.

If you do not like the ktv rooms you can take them to sit and see a cabaret show near the bar. Best of all, the rooms at the Jia Yi hotel next door cost only $188rmb a night.. very nice room, beautifully appointed and nice western size plus rooms. Make sure you bring your own covers because if you forget, the one in the room will cost you about $60rmb for a pack of 3.

BTW all the girls are atleast 7's and nothing over 23yo. I think the quality standard is even higher than the old Amazon. A lot of the Amazon's old staff or girls bolted for this new place. The only drawback is that the breakfast (included with the room) totally sucks.. I like the Hotel Versailles buffet breakfast better in terms of taste and quality.

[Moody]

Thanks everyone for the information!

One thing I like about 18 Sauna (besides the lineup) is the back room with those comfy lounge chairs, the food, and all those extra services you can get, like pedicure and leg massage. I also like the body washes available in the "wet" room.

Are the Saunas in CP like that - with shared sauna, shared lounge with services, and so on? From one I understand, the saunas in CP do not have shared spaces where food and pedicure are offered? Or am I wrong?

It also seems that the quality of the girls in 18 Sauna is much better than the saunas in CP. I found 95% of the girls at 18 to be in 8-10 range. It was a site to behold.

Also, I would love to try an upscale KTV in CP. Hopefully I will be able to find a few buddies to do it with.

I will most likely try to learn a little Mandarin.

Girl quality will depend a lot on where you go. If you go to one of the better places they will have prettier girls. CP tends to have large quantity, but not necessarily quality. Give the Sheraton on the west side a shot. Ask to see their model girls. Some of them are very fine. I found Crown Prince to be more like CP in terms of quality, but the rooms tend to be nicer. BTW, if you're into quality of service.... CP is probably better. Girls are plainer, but more compliant.

[Playboy2000]

Thanks everyone for the information!

One thing I like about 18 Sauna (besides the lineup) is the back room with those comfy lounge chairs, the food, and all those extra services you can get, like pedicure and leg massage. I also like the body washes available in the "wet" room.

Are the Saunas in CP like that - with shared sauna, shared lounge with services, and so on? From one I understand, the saunas in CP do not have shared spaces where food and pedicure are offered? Or am I wrong?

It also seems that the quality of the girls in 18 Sauna is much better than the saunas in CP. I found 95% of the girls at 18 to be in 8-10 range. It was a site to behold.

Also, I would love to try an upscale KTV in CP. Hopefully I will be able to find a few buddies to do it with.

I will most likely try to learn a little Mandarin.

[Fast Eddie 48]

18 Sauna has a great huge line up of Viets, Koreans, Chinese & Thais and the presentation beside the pool area is superb.

However, I did not find the rest of the place "super-luxurious" as you stated.

In fact, the 18 sauna work rooms where the girls take you are pretty shabby compared to some of the Chang Ping saunas I have visited, abeilt, none of them have the size of line-up that 18 Sauna has. Then, in terms of service, it all depends on who you pick.

If you are going to do all that work, you should do very well and bring a translator (electronic) or mini book with you and you will more than survive as many others before you have.

to crazier




I totaly agree sauna 18 room is smaller compare to the new rio sauna but I still think sauna 18 have better line up , most large sauna In CP 4 star hotel use regular hotel room like New century or miraton and you can even stay over night for no extra cost if you arrive after 12.pm at under 600 rmb much less than sauna 18 but quality is much better in macau.


fast eddie 48

[Crazier]

1) I absoutely loved 18 Sauna in Macau, because it was so luxurious. Are there any super-luxurious saunas like that in Dongguan (CP or elsewhere)?

2) How impossible is it really going to be more me to survive there without any Chinese language skills? If I do my homework properly, will I be able to arrange a take out at a BBS?

18 Sauna has a great huge line up of Viets, Koreans, Chinese & Thais and the presentation beside the pool area is superb.

However, I did not find the rest of the place "super-luxurious" as you stated.

In fact, the 18 sauna work rooms where the girls take you are pretty shabby compared to some of the Chang Ping saunas I have visited, abeilt, none of them have the size of line-up that 18 Sauna has. Then, in terms of service, it all depends on who you pick.

If you are going to do all that work, you should do very well and bring a translator (electronic) or mini book with you and you will more than survive as many others before you have.

[Moody]

I'm a Caucasian guy and have mongered in Hong Kong and Macau many times. In HK I've mongered in 414s, Wan Chai, K pressure and elsewhere. In Macau at 18 Sauna twice. I have also been to Ghangzhou, where I found a nice girl for LT near the Holiday Inn. I've posted a number of trip reports over the years.

I have never been to CP and Dongguan. In fact, I never new there was such much activity there until recently, when I stumbled into this Dongguan thread. I've done a lot or reading, but I nevertheless have a few questions. I am hoping someone can help me out.

1) I absoutely loved 18 Sauna in Macau, because it was so luxurious. Are there any super-luxurious saunas like that in Dongguan (CP or elsewhere)?

Haven't posted in a while since I've been in the US the past few months. Anyway, the sauna at the Crown Prince in Huangjiang is pretty nice. If you go out to the west side, the Kande Club sauna is also very nice. At Kande Club, you usually have to make a reservation, or else you're gonna have to wait a while.

2) How impossible is it really going to be more me to survive there without any Chinese language skills? If I do my homework properly, will I be able to arrange a take out at a BBS?

You would have to be galactically stupid not to be able to arrange takeout at a BBS in CP. Give the mommy 100RMB, and unless you say something, the girl will come with you. If you want to make arrangements for a different time, that would require a bit of ingenuity if you don't speak any Mandarin. Try pointing to your watch to tell her the time and show her your hotel key and write down the room number and time, that may work.... but it may not.... Alternatively, get a Mandarin phrasebook.

I think I'll only go for two nights during my first visit. I'm planning to take the train from Kowloon.

Thanks for your help, Race

You're welcome.

[Neuromancer]

Wilde,

Think about it this way and maybe you'll realize that China really isn't that different from say the US, as strange as that may seem.

Let's say that in every 5 star hotel in every major US city, all you see are Asian guys that look like Kim Jong Il hanging around, having breakfast with some college cheerleader (yes, I know that this analogy has been used before). Don't you think that most Americans would be utterly disgusted by Asians. Hence, one possible reason why Chinese providers are not "eager" to service caucasians when there are plenty of locals in the market.

Another argument is, well, with all the hot shot, big money Asians everywhere. And I'm sure there are plenty mongering in the US. Why the f*ck don't those Americans learn some d*mn Chinese/Japanese/Korean/whatever? They'd surely be able to increase their income. Or maybe more of those big money Asians just need to walk around flashing huge bills and the local Americans would finally come around to learning how to properly service Asians. Or maybe they're just too dumb to work the math.

Anyway, point being that the previous arguments made by Loso can just as easily be applied to the US or any other Western country for that matter.

[Wilde]

Szexpat,

Damn! Lily is friggen beautiful. Honestly, most (90%) of the pics I see posted are 6 or below IMO. Lily is a about an 8 in my book (ok, ok, I'm pretty picky). How tall is she? More than 170cm? That would bump it up to 9.

That Lily certainly has model potential. The only deduction you can take is that her eyes are kind of small, but it could be marketed as an oriental feature. If she is anywhere else but in China, I bet she would be in a different kind of line-up. Hunan must be a shithole, even Chairman Mao left. But isn't it amazing what wonders can come out of a gene pool of 1. 6 billion people? It is such a shame that there is just no good opportunities for some many of them in China. Wait a minute, I can't have my cake and eat it too.

A good find.

[Old Mean Dog]

Szexpat,

Damn! Lily is friggen beautiful. Honestly, most (90%) of the pics I see posted are 6 or below IMO. Lily is a about an 8 in my book (ok, ok, I'm pretty picky). How tall is she? More than 170cm? That would bump it up to 9.

Yes, she is certainly a stunner and had a wonderful body except for a large bruise on one of her thighs. I asked her about it and she said she bumped into something, who knows. She is certainly KTV quality girl and not real sure why she was in a stable, maybe she was so new the mommies grabbed her first. I also saw some young, fresh faced new ones at the #1 and #2 shops as well.

Lily was over 170 cm as was Luxia and I did them both an injustice by using a sorry camera and shitty skills to photograph them.

-SZE

[Neuromancer]

Szexpat,

Damn! Lily is friggen beautiful. Honestly, most (90%) of the pics I see posted are 6 or below IMO. Lily is a about an 8 in my book (ok, ok, I'm pretty picky). How tall is she? More than 170cm? That would bump it up to 9.

[Old Mean Dog]

szexpat:

the hotel/ktv you are talking about on the 2nd floor, is the enterance on the back of the hotel? the room has one door and about 30-40 feet long? there are seats on both sizes?


be careful following mamasans to apartments or new areas. the last time i was in cp, a runner told me that a hong kong guy was killed in an apartment. he suffocated. they used a cloth's pin and pinched his nose. i don’t know if she was telling me the truth but she knows what happened to me. it’s a long store. i posted a report early last year about what happened to me.

cons on mongering during cny

during holidays, hotels rates are much higher and then transportation. airfares and trains are higher too. i recalled hearing people were buying [CodeWord131] for train rides back home last year. lots of stores ( businesses ) are also closed due the chinese new year. some are closed for more than just 1 day but for one week. for the girls, majority go home for cny including some mamasans. to thin it down more, just before cny are the crackdowns. during dec, jan and feb it's colder and you can't see the goods as much. they wear more clothing during winter. there are girls but the qualities and quantities are low. overall, it is suggested not to go during this time.

imho

i'm jeolous of your 197rmb for a honeymoon suite.

weelock

yes, you go in the backdoor up to the second floor and the room is about 30 feet long with sofas on both sides.

thanks for the warning, even though my chinese is not so good, i can handle myself in most situations (retired military, first responder) and a pretty big guy, so i don't go into places i don't think i can get out of.

we took the bus to cp, same price as it always was 36 rmb one way, same price for the hotel, all the restaurants open (except a few) many open even at 2 am on new years day and most shops open for business new years day. what i think was the best kept secret was there was plenty of girls....only 2 of us but we saw over 50 girls during our 2 days. lots of girls in cp so even if 50% could afford or were allowed to go home, still leaves lots to pick from.

i agree that travel and prices are expensive if traveling to other cities but i don't think dongguan is in that scheme as the buses going and coming from cp were not even half full. i was planning on going to beijing, but after i saw the price of the air and hotel decided to play in cp.

-sze

[Weelock]

szexpat:

the hotel/ktv you are talking about on the 2nd floor, is the enterance on the back of the hotel? the room has one door and about 30-40 feet long? there are seats on both sizes?


be careful following mamasans to apartments or new areas. the last time i was in cp, a runner told me that a hong kong guy was killed in an apartment. he suffocated. they used a cloths pin and pinched his nose. i don’t know if she was telling me the truth but she knows what happened to me. it’s a long store. i posted a report early last year about what happened to me.

cons on mongering during cny

during holidays, hotel rates are much higher. then transportation like airfares and trains are higher too. i recalled hearing people were buying [CodeWord131] for train rides back home last year. lots of stores ( businesses ) are also closed due the chinese new year. some are closed for more than just 1 day but for one week. for the girls, majority go home for cny including some mamasans. to thin it down more, just before cny are the crackdowns. during dec, jan and feb it's colder and you can't see the goods as much. they wear more clothing during winter. there are girls but the qualities and quantities are lower. overall, it is suggested not to go during this time but it seems you had a good time.

imho

i'm jeolous of your 197rmb for a honeymoon suite.

weelock

[Old Mean Dog]

After dragging my ass out of bed around noon due to the wild child wearing me out from the previous night, I slammed down a couple a cans of "Red Bull" and we finally set out to explore. The streets were still full of people and fireworks still blasting everywhere. After a couple cups of coffee and going over our gameplan for the day, we were approached by 3 mommies next to the MIRATON Hotel who took us behind the hotel (where the apartments are) and was escorted into a stable there (I think this might be a new area since I have not read any reports on this). There was only 6 girls in the shop at this time (it was in the afternoon), four of which were very cute, but we declined. We then noticed that some of the stables behind the Hui Mei were open again and Mr. J saw one of his favorite girls so off they went to the hotel.

After wondering around a bit more, I went back to the hotel where I was greeted by Mr. J and his cutie. The girl seemed so damn interested in me, Mr. J told her to give me a pop, which she accepted (of course I made her shower and brush her teeth....haha).

Name: Mei-Mei
Home: Forgot to ask
Age: Chinese 19
Body: 8 rock solid, tight and firm farm girl.
Face: 6
Skills: 6 Not real good or willing to experiment, maybe Mr. J has wore her out
Fee: Gave her 100
Photo: Will post later when I get them

After the afternoon romp, we headed out for a bite to eat, drank more coffee and decided to roll over to the Yalan Hotel a little early (around 6:30). We found an excellent driver who knew what we wanted and even came with us on the tour (nice guy).

As we approached the Yalan, the driver took us into a hotel parking lot, I did not get the name of the hotel but will try to give directions; If your standing at the major street corner by the Yalan Hotel, you will see a medicine shop on your right (which has stables above it...Jojo works here sometimes) across the street, is another medicine shop and small stores, directly behind these shops is a older hotel with KTV.

We were lead up to the 2nd floor and into a room where there was about 25 girls ranging in looks from 5-8, some of them were actual KTV girls (with uniform and #'s) while others were just working girls. After looking them over, as well as the #1 shop and #2 shop, the KTV behind the Yalan Restaurant, and the 3 other shops behind the Yalan Hotel (We did not go into the Yalan KTV) I wanted to pull the mommy from the Yalan (maybe is my fetish to get the mommies) I am sure all you regulars know her, she is the girl with orange wavey hair, short and cute. I gave her 100 and after she thought about it for 20 minutes decided to not join me.......I will get her soon though.

I decided to take one from CoCo's shop and this girl was quite a treat, very lovely and had only been in town for 2 weeks.

Name: Luxia
Age: Chinese 20
Home: Guangxi
Body: 8 Nice, clean and well take care of even trimmed her kitten, but rather smallish breasts.
Skills: 8 real good and very GFE, she wanted to come visit me in SZ this week and I might take her up on that offer.
Fee: 100 mommy, 400 girl LT, 50 red envelope

Overall, it was a lot of fun, not a lot of punters out so we had pick of the litter in most places from the girls who were new to CP or those that did not go home. I think these 2 new stables (correct me if I am wrong) might hold some interest to others as the quantity and quality was good.

I won't be back out to CP until the first weekend of March and will be flying solo as my wingman will be returning to the USA for a month, but if anyone wants to join me, send me a PM and we can meet up.

-SZE

[Old Mean Dog]

Mr. J and I decided to head over to CP Saturday to spend the New Year there even though others, including some on this board, said it would suck. I will have to say that you were either keeping a secret or were just assuming it would, it didn't and turned into one of the better times I've had there.

First, we confirmed our rooms at the Lucky Hotel before getting on the bus at our corporate rate of 197 rmb for the Honeymoon Room. When we arrived, the streets were crowded with people all celebrating the evening. After we checked in, we headed out to grab a bite to eat afterwards, Mr. J bought a whole bunch of fireworks and joined the mass of people shooting them off....sounding like a war zone with so many people shooting fireworks.

After the fun and games, we got down to business and noticed immediately that the stables behind the Hui Mei Hotel were closed, but the mommies were still out. They asked us if we wanted girls, of course we said yes, and within 5 minutes a van would pull up and out would jump 6-8 girls! We were doing lineups right on the main street next to the van!

Mr. J finally found one he liked, but I decided to call my little buddy Jo-Jo and try my luck with her to send me a girl. She came through 100% by sending me Lily who she said had only been in town 2 days.

Name: Lily
Home: Hunan
Age: Chinese 18
Body: For me it was around a 9, she was taller, had great breasts and took care of herself.
Skills: 6 inexperienced and very shy to move a lot.
Fee: 100 mommy, 100 girl plus 25 each for the red envelope.

After Mr. J and I had finished business, we went back out to have some more fun with the locals and had a bite to eat at the "Happy Together" Restaurant, as a sidenote, it appears that the Cafe Mito has shut it's doors for good, which is very sad considering for 45 rmb we used to get a salad, soup, steak, dessert and drink.

Around 2am Mr. J and I decided to call it a night, but as we entered the 5th floor of our hotel, we saw 2 of the regular mommies running girls, one who begged us to take one of her girls from the van parked outside the hotel. After seeing that her girls were not that stunning and being a little tired, I declined but the mommy begged me to take one, so I showed the mommy that I only had 132.50 rmb in my pocket and could not afford one now......she took it and gave me the girl.

Name: Never Asked
Home: Hubei
Age: Chinese 20
Body: 6 had a big tattoo on her back and one on her breast, face not so good
Skills: 9 Wow, this girl was a total freak, she must have been a wannabe porn star because she did anything and everything and was howling like a dog at the moon at 3 am.
Fee: 32.50 for the mommy and 100 for the girl, she asked for extra, but all I had was 100's on me and was too tired to go to 7-11 so I told her next time.

Day 1 over.