2007 South China - Dongguan

[Dan Hawaii]

it is the last thing i wanted to do. i'm chang, i don't like to overpay more than i have too. believe me, i made a scene. you can even ask johnny chan, he was the abc that tried to help me. i called the hotel for help, a manager in a black suite came in and did nothing but stand there. then johnny chan and another chinese speaking friend came in to help and we called the mommy but she even said it was 250 for each girl. those fucking biatches, fuck them. wtf was we supposed to do? believe me, i wanted to bash their heads together.

yes i made a mistake, i should have asked what the price was. but from my yalan experiences, i never got overcharged like this. i thought the price was set and it was a given. therefore, i did not ask "how much". so you guys can flame and give me the fucking 101 spoiling the market speech. blah blah blah.

or you can give me a senario that would have gotten you out of this??? please enlighten me and give me an early christmas gift.

[Dan Hawaii]

Did you say she did not want to leave with 200? How much did you give the mama at the BBS?

Sometimes you just need to be firm when they put up a fuss for extra money. Just ask them if you should call the mama to check. They will usually back down and leave in a huff.

Frankly, I have done around 5-6 girls in those shops and never had good service, although one did have short hot pants and high red boots one time. The mamas are always very pushy even chasing you outside with the girl in tow. I do go by and have a look, but rarely pull from that place anymore.

Just my POV.

OAH

Sorry I did not make it clear. I took out 2 girls from the BBS with the 3 rooms, was the room on the far left. I paid the mommy 100 each , then after the deed, i paid the girls 100 each, but they refused to leave, until I gave them 50 more each.

[Lee66]

rooms at lucky are smaller, the lights are dimmer, and there are some expensive condoms etc in the bathroom . furnishings are more antique looking. tv has less channels, and view is not as good.. Somthimes there are mommas with girls wandering upstairs at lucky.

[Playboy2000]

The Lucky and Mirathon are almost next door, so neither really has a better location. Although the Mirathon has a sauna and the Lucky doesn't, this really isn't an advantage for the Mirathon, since you easily walk to the sauna at the Mirathon from the Lucky.

The main advantage of the Lucky seems to be 150 RMB less. The main advantage of the Mirathon is the nicer furnishings, the shower, the more elegant lobby, and the breakfast buffet? How are the furnishings at the Lucky?

[Class101]

After 2 tries at this place at the end of Bar Street in Dongcheng where 2 girls, one after the other, were on their red week; I decided to head back to the footie place with a sauna in disguise.

This time I called 15 mins prior to book a room; just short of midnight. I was shown 3 girls. 2 of them were bamboo thin and one with a great rack. No prizes for guessing which one I chose, most of them are so flat, I had to chose the one with the rack. Her name was difficult to pronounce and remember but her number is 16. Very cute, 20 yo, and came from Tong Bei; 1st day on the job and very GFE. She was attentive and no attitude. She is slightly plumb-ish but great to handle.

Started off with the normal routine but the action really start on the bed. She was blowing me when I gestured for a 69. Very tasty. After a while I CIM but she wasn't mad at me. Then I pound and pound changing from one position to another but couldn't cum again.

Btw, her boobs were a handful. Firm and nice to squeeze.

[Logos]

Santa wrote "In China, to avoid conflict, we must ALWAYS confirm the prices and services provided before we agree to buy. That also applies to other consumer goods and services. In China we must ALWAYS haggle, negotiate and confirm, otherwise the price goes up. That's the Chinese way of doing business. "

CP and Santa are absolutely right to insist on haggling and sticking to our guns and the established prices. Thanks to the old hands here for all the info and the clear price structure BTW. I have experienced in cambodia what unconscious wannabee mongers can do to a particular market. In a couple years prices for STs have shot up from $3-5 to 10, with some morons ruining the market by handing out $20 or more and boasting how cheap it is compared to home. Affordable travel will do that to a market after a while, alas.

CP is possibly the best place on the planet right now (well I'll have to see for myself in about a week but from where I stand the glass is half full) but it doesn't take long to ruin a good scene if you don't reign in excesses, boycott places like the one Dan H patronized, and mostly, let them know why. Count me in to help keep inflation under wraps.

[OldAsiaHand]

Did you say she did not want to leave with 200? How much did you give the mama at the BBS?

Sometimes you just need to be firm when they put up a fuss for extra money. Just ask them if you should call the mama to check. They will usually back down and leave in a huff.

Frankly, I have done around 5-6 girls in those shops and never had good service, although one did have short hot pants and high red boots one time. The mamas are always very pushy even chasing you outside with the girl in tow. I do go by and have a look, but rarely pull from that place anymore.

Just my POV.

OAH

Yeah, did the deed already and they did not want to leave with 200. Yes, that is the BBS you described. But it was just the room on the far left. Not sure what the other 2 rooms are charging, but I know around 1 week ago, we pulled one from the middle room and the charge was regular price.

[Santa]

Wo bu shi er bai wu de ren. Literal translation = I no is two hundred five (de)person.

It is also slang for "I'm not stupid".

[Dan Hawaii]

From the RTFF Miraton looks good (should be a short cab ride? ), it has internet. But so does lucky and is close to the action. But I think Miraton would work for me. Though 'Dan Hawaii' moved to lucky, was it just to save bucks for mongering or any shortcomming by the Miraton?

It was just to save some money since I would be here for so long. Miraton is a great hotel. But I figured if I moved to the Lucky I can get/save a free ST everyday, because the price difference is around 150rmb.

[Dan Hawaii]

Thanks CPE, I do appreciate it. And try to get the extra 50rmb X 2 = 100rmb I paid for 2 girls.

I think he is talking about Coco's Shop, the one behind the green door, it's the only one I can think of that has 3 shops in it. I know Coco pretty well, I will go over and ***** at her about wtf she is charging 250.

I have had 2 shots in the last 3 days from the Yalan area and I paid 200 per shot.

-CPE

[Santa]

I think most of the guys who pay too much are those with only a little mongering experience and/or speak little or no chinese. They are excited and horny, so they just nod their heads and hand over the cash.

The other guys have deep pockets and say "I don't give a shit!"

Not being critical here, just stating what I think is true.

[Dan Hawaii]

Yeah, did the deed already and they did not want to leave with 200. Yes, that is the BBS you described. But it was just the room on the far left. Not sure what the other 2 rooms are charging, but I know around 1 week ago, we pulled one from the middle room and the charge was regular price.

You already brought the girls back to your hotel room? When did the overcharge price was brought up, after the deed?

Yes. Boycott that fucking place and let them know it. Don't some DickHead tell you otherwise.

Is that 3 room place with the old large Banyan tree in the courtyard, behind the green metal door, behind the Yalan hotel?

Bill

[Prince Darkness]

I have been keep on reading reports on people over paying. And I admit I have done it the last time when I was in CP last year. I think the main reason is I was by myself, and mentally, I gave in to whatever mama says. Because you dont want to argue there by yourself against 20 girls. But then again, I think If I was in a group, its easier to talk the price down. I call that group pressure.

[OldAsiaHand]

This is the worst side effect of overpaying for the next guy. If a girl thinks the money is short, her perception or otherwise, the service will be short. It is just human nature in business.

We as laowais already have to deal with the myth that all foreigners are millionaires and should pay more. When some swinging dick does pay more, it just reinforces this.

Just my POV.

OAH

I have heard; I am just one guy, how am I going to spoil the market? Well, here's your answer: One of us guys "In the Know" might pick the same girl you overpaid, she will expect the same. If price is discussed before sex, we will probably get inferior service, if discussed after the deed, and we stick to our guns, don't you think she will run back to the shop and tell the other girls we are not as generous?

[Bill Lee]

I am still waiting to see a herd of chickens (is a group of chickens considered a herd, a gaggle, or ?) waiting at the bus stop for their bus back to the Yalan area. This would be a great way to do a lineup!
-CPE

The answer is:
What is a flock?

But in CP, you said it, what is a lineup?

Bill