2008 South China - Dongguan

[SE Asia Joe]

OAH,

If they don't tell them you and your buddy will not go back again or tell them you know a BSD name SEAJOE .

Fast eddie 48

Hell Eddie - it was OAH who first brought/introduced me to all the CP BBS's. He taught me all the tricks!!

OAH IS definitely known/recognized/appreciated by all the Mommas as being THE ULTIMATE AND LONG TERM BSD!!

SEAJ

[SE Asia Joe]

Fast Eddie,

Yeah I've got some mommie contacts as well. But it's just not the same though. Last year I experienced the same thing. Everyone's so paranoid with the raids that it makes me feel even more anxious with so many girls coming to my hotel room.

I like the feeling of walking into the BBS being able to see them all lined up in a line. Or rectangle depending on where you are at, and be able to select and pick out the ones you like.

I mean if I were SEA Joe, OAH, CPEXPAT who live so close to CP, it doesn't matter much to them. But for long travelers like me, we all wish to get the best bang for the buck.

It was so nerve racking last year even going into a Sauna in CP. They even have precautions like hiding the condoms and concealing them JUST in case of a raid.

Just wondering how it might be this year. That's all. Thanks for your comments Fast Eddie.

AsnDragon

AD - as you probably already know, things change very rapidly in China and more so in Chang Ping. I wouldn't even want to guess what it's gonna be like this year but will instead just tell you how things are right now.

Last Friday at 6 PM - when you would expect most BBS's to be quite empty, it was standing room only at SWL - wall to wall gals and it was pretty much the same at all the other BBS's.
KTV's - JIa Yi was still going strong even with the new Mayflower also starting up their own huge Flower Street, and I had a few gals, mommies, DJ's from all sorts of KTV's all phoning me trying to convince me to come. Quite unusual - and when I asked them how come business sems to be so bad, they all agreed that business WAS bad and thus a lot of "good things" for us mongers; their explanation seems to centre around the Financial down turn, that the Christmas hols started inconveniently on thursday, that a lot of Taiwanese now go back more frequently to Taiwan on the new direct flights, that locals are being laid off/factories closing down and thus nobody in any mood to screw around etc etc. Who knows??!!

But you've got a point - that you do need to travel way further than I - so why take a chance - why dontcha just delay your plans a bit of time. No sense in doing otherwise.

SEAJ

Ps. And as far as I could remember, I don't think I had too much problems in CP last Chinese New Year and in fact Bill, Santa and I actually had a pretty groovy time then. Just goes to show that things do change rapidly as we probably partook of CP within days of each other.

[AsnDragon]

ASN,

I don't think it take a month for the actions to come back to normal ,maybe one week but for the regular like cpexpat and Oah and myself we have mommie contact , most girl go hidden because of raid we just call them they will come to your hotel.

Fast eddie 48

Fast Eddie,

Yeah I've got some mommie contacts as well. But it's just not the same though. Last year I experienced the same thing. Everyone's so paranoid with the raids that it makes me feel even more anxious with so many girls coming to my hotel room.

I like the feeling of walking into the BBS being able to see them all lined up in a line. Or rectangle depending on where you are at, and be able to select and pick out the ones you like.

I mean if I were SEA Joe, OAH, CPEXPAT who live so close to CP, it doesn't matter much to them. But for long travelers like me, we all wish to get the best bang for the buck.

It was so nerve racking last year even going into a Sauna in CP. They even have precautions like hiding the condoms and concealing them JUST in case of a raid.

Just wondering how it might be this year. That's all. Thanks for your comments Fast Eddie.

AsnDragon

[Tck 306]

it does not get any worse than this!

oah[/quote]ha, bro, yr story reminded me similar thing happened to me early year in sz.

after cp, had gone to sz with a fr (he had a prc gf) and check in sz hotel.

went over a ktv had small beer with fr at the hall and met this ger.

after knowing i am from kl, she kept talking about a dato paid so much for her when she was working ipoh sometime ago. bla bla bla.

then tipped her 400 when drinking session over and went on supper with a group of cigar gers. thinking how to take the the ciger ger among so many. then the phone rang and the ipoh prc said she is at my hotel lobby.

so paid the supper bill and speed back to the room. i was a bit tired and only plan to bonk in the morning. who know she said if no bonk also need to pay. then start sop lo. tiu. flat front and flat back. the worst prc i ever had!

fast fast finished it and then she said only do short, so i paid her 1000. she said not enough, "market price" is 2k! i said then you shud call yr mummy.

to cut it short, paid her another 300 to get rid of her and sleep la.

old bird like us sometimes also kena. sigh!

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[Fast Eddie 48]

Dear all fellow ISG bros,

I was in CP last year around new years and it was completely dead. BBS had less than 6-8 girls in every shop. Even Saunas like Miraton, Hui Hua and Hui Mei were scared of police raids.

This year I learned my lesson, and I'm planning on going middle of February, two weeks after Chinese new year (26th of jan.) Do all you veterans know if the lineup and supply of girls will return to normal by then? I'd hate to plan a long trip all the way to CP to experience a lack of supply of girls.

Usually it takes about 1 month after Chinese New years for the girls to start coming back. (since they usually stay home to play for a while before returning to CP) but with the economic downturn, do you guys think that girls will take a shorter break and come back to CP to find work quicker?

What do you think SEAJoe? OAH, FEddie, Manfest Etc?

Thanks

AsnDragon

ASN,

I don't think it take a month for the actions to come back to normal ,maybe one week but for the regular like cpexpat and Oah and myself we have mommie contact , most girl go hidden because of raid we just call them they will come to your hotel.

Fast eddie 48

[Member #4247]

Even if all the girls are waiting for u, do u have the $$$?

Singaporeans are the best loved in Zhuhai, DG, Shenzhen etc esp successful & generous property consultants.

[Fast Eddie 48]

FE48,

I do intend to go back and complain to the mama. I doubt I will get a full refund since I did do the girl, but the mama will probably give me another girl without her cut next time. This is the usual way they deal with it.

OAH

OAH,

I think you should go back and complain you will never know ,if the mommie value you as a regular customer they should give you an refund ,it is the mommie fault in the first place not tell the girl the price and rule .

If they don't tell them you and your buddy will not go back again or tell them you know a BSD name SEAJOE .

Fast eddie 48

[AsnDragon]

Dear all fellow ISG bros,

I was in CP last year around new years and it was completely dead. BBS had less than 6-8 girls in every shop. Even Saunas like Miraton, Hui Hua and Hui Mei were scared of police raids.

This year I learned my lesson, and I'm planning on going middle of February, two weeks after Chinese new year (26th of jan.) Do all you veterans know if the lineup and supply of girls will return to normal by then? I'd hate to plan a long trip all the way to CP to experience a lack of supply of girls.

Usually it takes about 1 month after Chinese New years for the girls to start coming back. (since they usually stay home to play for a while before returning to CP) but with the economic downturn, do you guys think that girls will take a shorter break and come back to CP to find work quicker?

What do you think SEAJoe? OAH, FEddie, Manfest Etc?

Thanks

AsnDragon

[TraderLondon]

I will be staying at the Miraton Hotel for 3 nights from 31 December 2008. I would like to meet with few members to celebrate and to visit venues in the area. If you are interested please PM.

Regards

Traderlondon

[Fast Eddie 48]

Some of the mommies deliberately mislead the girls about the rates. And some conveniently forget to mention that out of the 200 rmb ST, the girl only ends up with 100 rmb. This is the case especially with the new girls.

But it's more likely that the "laowai factor" was at work here. She figured that OAH doesn't know the price, can't be bothered to argue, or can't argue due to lack of language. Every once in a while, they will try it on me too. I brush them off with a sneer and "go ask your mommie", and throw them out of the room without asking for an answer. The girls don't push it, probably different for a laowai.

I was having a foot massage when OAH called me to tell the story. This was with the b1tch from hell still in his room. Haha, I could hear her scream all the way through the phone.

Her: I want 10 rmb for taxi money!

OAH: But we are at the Clipper, Swanlake is right there!

Her: But I don't want to walk!

Maybe OAH can laugh about it too. Some day

To OAH/ WADMAN

Yes most of swan lake girl are from KTV and sauna, they are use to high income, girl are better quality than babe girl and some have bad attuide just like the mommie there but I do have my share of very GFE girl there also.

I was there a few month ago with my HK buddy, they are regular there and know the mommie very well, I got a girl there have bad attuide and we just call the mommie and bring her back and got another one no problem.

Fast Eddie 48

[Wadman]

Back in the room, I had a feeling I was in trouble. She was talking nonstop. She said she used to work in a place in Shenzhen where they were paid 500/1000/1500 for 1/2/3 hours respectively.

She got dressed and I gave her the 100 RMB. She threw it on the floor and demanded 300 RMB. I told her to call the mama which she did. She was screaming at the mama to tell me to give her 200 RMB more. The mama was trying to reason with her, but she hung up the phone. I had to threaten to call security if she would not leave. She finally left l and asked me for 10 RMB for taxi from Clipper to Swan Lake. With her attitude, I was not going to give her 10 fen more.

Some of the mommies deliberately mislead the girls about the rates. And some conveniently forget to mention that out of the 200 rmb ST, the girl only ends up with 100 rmb. This is the case especially with the new girls.

But it's more likely that the "laowai factor" was at work here. She figured that OAH doesn't know the price, can't be bothered to argue, or can't argue due to lack of language. Every once in a while, they will try it on me too. I brush them off with a sneer and "go ask your mommie", and throw them out of the room without asking for an answer. The girls don't push it, probably different for a laowai.

I was having a foot massage when OAH called me to tell the story. This was with the b1tch from hell still in his room. Haha, I could hear her scream all the way through the phone.
Her: I want 10 rmb for taxi money!
OAH: But we are at the Clipper, Swanlake is right there!
Her: But I don't want to walk!

Maybe OAH can laugh about it too... some day

[Santa]

She got dressed and I gave her the 100 RMB. She threw it on the floor and demanded 300 RMB.

It does not get any worse than this!

OAH

She is not really a "***** from hell". But she has learned to behave like one when dealing with customers.

The reason she behaves like this is easy to understand. Previous customers have reinforced (rewarded) her temper tantrams by giving her extra money. She is simply doing what she has learned to do.

These ladies then tell each other what works and what doesn't.

I think OAH not giving any reward was the correct thing to do. Also, I agree, he should complain and demand a replacement, but do it politely and a friendly way.

[OldAsiaHand]

OAH,

I am sorry to hear about your bad experience, that is Swan Lake Girl for you bad ass attuide, I think you should go back and talk to the mammasan to get a refund.

Fast Eddie 48

FE48,

I do intend to go back and complain to the mama. I doubt I will get a full refund since I did do the girl, but the mama will probably give me another girl without her cut next time. This is the usual way they deal with it.

OAH

[Pleasure Dude]

Hey OAH,

Sorry to hear about the poor service and that is why we should avoid swan lake BBS entirely. Some of the girls there are really hot but 90% of the time you will receive poor service.

I will be heading to CP the new year weekend and if anybody is around, please pm me.

PD

I pulled a girl from the second group from the left yesterday. She was very friendly at the Swan Lake and keen to go with me. She was tall with a big rack, so I got hooked.

Back in the room, I had a feeling I was in trouble. She was talking nonstop. She said she used to work in a place in Shenzhen where they were paid 500/1000/1500 for 1/2/3 hours respectively.


OAH

[Fast Eddie 48]

I pulled a girl from the second group from the left yesterday. She was very friendly at the Swan Lake and keen to go with me. She was tall with a big rack, so I got hooked.

Back in the room, I had a feeling I was in trouble. She was talking nonstop. She said she used to work in a place in Shenzhen where they were paid 500/1000/1500 for 1/2/3 hours respectively.

To cut a long story short, the service sucked. Less than a minute of BBBJ and she spit on the floor. I asked her for more and she gave me another minute and said it was enough. She refused any position other than mish. I insisted on doggy which she said hurt and stopped after a minute. Finally, I just popped to end the misery.

After the deed, she said she wanted LT and to go out for dinner and KTV with me. Are you kidding? After that lame attempt. I told her friends were waiting for me.

She got dressed and I gave her the 100 RMB. She threw it on the floor and demanded 300 RMB. I told her to call the mama which she did. She was screaming at the mama to tell me to give her 200 RMB more. The mama was trying to reason with her, but she hung up the phone. I had to threaten to call security if she would not leave. She finally left l and asked me for 10 RMB for taxi from Clipper to Swan Lake. With her attitude, I was not going to give her 10 fen more.

To top it off, she used all my towels and trashed the bathroom.

It does not get any worse than this!

OAH

OAH,

I am sorry to hear about your bad experience, that is Swan Lake Girl for you bad ass attuide, I think you should go back and talk to the mammasan to get a refund.

Fast Eddie 48